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The Sous Vide Supreme: At $449, Succulent, or Just Suck? (REVIEW, PHOTOS)

Posted: 04/28/10 05:46 PM ET

When buying kitchen staples like knives, pots, and pans, it's often worth investing some money for the best product. A Le Creuset French oven or All-Clad pan set will last a lifetime and increase the quality of your food, and is worth the approximately $300 - $600 you'll spend.

These appliances and implements tend to be low-tech, classic, and multi-use. While I'm hardly a Luddite, I agree that this is by and large where your money should go (besides the ingredients themselves). You can waste almost limitless amounts of money on kitchen gadgets with no real benefit to your culinary evolution. Worse, the gadgets most undeserving of exorbitant spending often carry the heftiest price tags; they also tend to be associated with food trends -- think breadmakers, home rotisseries, etc. I say this from experience, as someone whose apartment, due to a series of unfortunate events, currently houses a RonCo™ home rotisserie and a bread machine.
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However, I certainly appreciate the thrill of the new. All home cooks long for the gadget that can transform their meals into something truly remarkable, a meal of restaurant quality. So when the Sous Vide Supreme first arrived at my office I was genuinely excited. Sous vide at home! The possibilities were endless!

Sous vide (French for under vacuum) is a cooking technique developed in the late '60s and early '70s, capitalizing on the growing popularity of plastics and an interest in a more scientific approach to food. Even a few years ago the process was referred to by the unappealing moniker "Cryovacking." It involves vacuum sealing food into a plastic bag before submerging it into a fixed-temperature water bath. In traditional cooking, be it roasting, boiling, searing, or what have you, food cooks from the outside in. However, in the tepid bath water of a sous vide, food cooks evenly, with the outside receiving no more of a heat assault than the center. Therefore, there is less loss of liquid due to overheating. That dry, sawdusty chicken breast and cardboard salmon you've had is the result of this over-reliance on fire and microwaves for your culinary needs. A sous vide allows food to retain its fluids, flavor, and tenderness, all the while killing problematic bacteria.

My first experiment with the Sous Vide Supreme was on a lazy Easter, when I decided to make lamb. I found lovely 1-inch thick, bone-in petite chops and decided to sous vide them with a simple rub of olive oil, salt, pepper and fresh rosemary.

The Sous Vide Supreme comes with a number of instructional guides that provide temperature and length of cooking guidelines. My lamb chops, for example, needed a relatively short bath, a mere hour at 134 degrees Fahrenheit. This was perfect for an impromptu meal that, when paired with a salad and new red potatoes crushed with fresh chives and sour cream made for a lovely Sunday dinner for two. Equally as delightful was that after seasoning and bagging the lamb, my dinner companion and I were free not only to prepare the other dishes but to clean up and watch a film rather than bustling in the kitchen. The results of our minimal labor were the fantastic: perfectly cooked lamb, rare and tender all the way through, with a sear around the edges from a quick pan fry in butter after the sous vide'ing was complete. I've devoted much more time and effort to lamb with disastrous results, as have many a home cook. (I've also had a great personal fear of cooking lamb since the Seder I left a very expensive -- and necessary -- lamb shank in a conventional oven for five hours, during which time it became a charred meat club.) This was a dream come true. And so effortless that said dining companion felt the need to remark, "This is delicious, but it's not as though you really cooked anything."

There lies Important Lesson Number One of the sous vide
: do not let anyone see what you are doing. Bring out the finished results and let them wonder.
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You may wish you also knew a little less about the sous vide. Having limited options, I had to settle the thing, which is a stainless steel box about the size of a microwave, on my kitchen floor. This meant that for about two weeks, I had a nearly constant lukewarm bath full of meat next to my recycling bin. That's gross, and it makes you wonder, every time you open one of your little vacuum-bagged masterpieces, if you're about to die of botulism. The New York Board of health has a thing or two to say about all this, and let's take a moment to put the caveat emptor out there: you can make yourself sick doing this, although you'd have to be somewhat of an idiot to do so. Let me say now, neither I, nor anyone I fed, to my knowledge, got sick from the sous vide. But it is a little weird, and I did have the unfortunate experience of more than once smelling meat cooking. While in general this is a beloved part of the cooking ritual, if the theory is that you have vacuum-sealed something, there should theoretically be minimal aromatics.

Which takes me to the vacuum sealer I was sent as part of my Sous Vide Supreme experience. It wasn't very good. It was easy enough to use, but the amount of pressure being exerted was lackluster and didn't properly insulate the food against leaking fluids. One of the gripes of sous vide home cooks is normally that they can't make sauces to accompany their meat dishes because there are no juices. I could have, and did, make gravy from the liquids filling up my little bags, which was delicious, but hardly the point of the exercise. There were no leaking tragedies, but if you're buying, skip the $129 for the vacuum sealer and look elsewhere.

I moved on to short ribs, which I rubbed with a mix of turmeric, garlic, salt, pepper, and MSG. (Say what you will about MSG. It is delicious, and it's not giving you headaches. Calm down. ) The results were truly lovely: a rich, fatty, tender meat, perfect for shredding. I mixed it with fried potatoes, new onions, paprika and a little cumin for a breakfast hash with a runny, fried rainbow egg on top. This was definitely one of my favorite dishes. I tried it on a number of different tasters who uniformly described it with superlatives. This is where the sous vide, in my mind, excels for home cooks. Think perfect hash, moist and tender carnitas, pulled pork, spare ribs: all the meats that fought to be tough when you wanted them to be tender. The sous vide is like the ultimate man eater, turning the Iggy Pops of raw meat into a gently cooked, crowd pleasing Jonas brothers.

I moved on to pork, buying a bone-in chop from my local farmer's market. This one I decided to do with sliced apples from the same market and more rosemary. The pork was described as the "tenderest and rarest pork I've ever had" by one taster. Personally, I've had rarer and tenderer pork that was braised for 12 hours, although this was very good.

Next we had a whole rainbow trout, which led to the fairly disgusting spectacle of a whole fish in a vacuum sealed bag (see photos below). Two different dining companions were mightily impressed with the butter and thyme stuffed fish, which came out moist and tender, but not firm enough for my taste. The herb flavor did permeate nicely, which is the saving grace of even slightly failed adventures with the sous vide.

Finally, we had a hanger steak. A friend donated leftover Thai soup with lemongrass, kaffir lime leaves, and galangal. We used the remnants as a marinade along with some crushed whole lemongrass stalks. The hanger steak was a bit of a lackluster venture on my part, which confirmed that it is virtually impossible to make a truly bad piece of meat in the sous vide. I threw it into a bag at 140 degrees because it overlapped with the pork, when really it needed to be at 134. I then turned the temp back down after about four hours, but also had invited some people over for the previous sous vide feast, had a bit of wine, forgot the steak, and let it cook for about 12 hours longer than I had intended. Whoops, and the stuff that culinary disasters (and burned down houses) are made of. The result was a steak not nearly as medium rare as it should have been and tender to the point of being somewhat unrecognizable, more like, as one taster described, a short rib texture than a proper steak. But it was still delicious, perfectly perfumed with the lemongrass.

That's the essential lesson of the sous vide: it's incredibly difficult to destroy a meal, and incredibly easy to come up with something pretty amazing with very little work. A perfectly cooked, relatively cheap piece of meat on a Friday night with basically no effort before hand, besides de-bagging some potatoes and steak and giving them a quick flash fry? Deeply appealing.

But the Sous Vide Supreme is a mostly self-selecting device. There are ways of getting around a costly appliance and still making slow cooked, flavorful food. If you're not a serious home cook, you may not want to spend the time and effort figuring out how to jerry rig an improvised sous vide. However, the demographic with the patience and inclination to do so would probably be the same group who would get the most out of the sous vide machine. For those in between, a subsection of the food population with a fair amount of disposable income but not a lot of time or interest in slaving over a perfectly braised this, that or the other, the sous vide is a godsend.

And if you are a very, very serious home cook, the sous vide will provide you with immense satisfaction on the level of a professional kitchen appliance. If, however, you fall somewhere in the middle range of food enthusiast/dedicated home cook/ normal person with interpersonal relationships outside of domestic pets who has one or two things they want/have to spend $600 dollars on rather than a water oven, no, the sous vide is not worthwhile.

Personally, I was excited to receive the Sous Vide Supreme, loved using it, enjoyed every single result, and am happy to return it to its owner. The Sous Vide Supreme may be a maneater, but it's more passive aggressive homemaker than dominatrix. The fun of home cooking is in the challenges that the sous vide effortlessly overcomes. If you fall into this camp, save yourself the money.

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These petite bone in lamb loin chops were rubbed with fresh rosemary, olive oil, and salt. Rib chops would work as well, but loin chops are perfect for a quick pan sear.
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03:20 PM on 06/13/2010
My comments on sous vide refer to those concerned with safety and experimenting at very low cost. Douglas Baldwin points out , there are elements of time and Temperature which can be balanced and one of the simplest places to start is with a Crockpot, a $20 Reynolds Handi-Vac device and the ribs recipe from Douglas.

http://coffeepotcooking.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/sous-vide-ribs-nothing-better/

My presentation came from Douglas Baldwin's very technical site.

http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind/sous-vide.html

The temperature of the Crockpot is not a major concern to any and the the results are fantastic. Both my Crockpot and my coffeepot test out to be about 175 Fahrenheit which is perfect for ribs. For those concerned with the plastic, the bags in the Reynold's Hand-Vac system are polyethylene, the same plastic used in milk cartons and many other containers. There is no Bisphenol A in polyethylene.

In a different post on the literature of sous vide, I reference your article and quote on the public acceptance of the method.

http://coffeepotcooking.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/the-literature-of-sous-vide/
01:31 AM on 05/05/2010
And more comments (thanks HPost for telling us about the word limit BEFORE posting)

6) The food looks unappetizing. Is it good?
Yes. You'll just have to trust us on this. There are things you can do sous-vide that simply can't be done by any other method. Like eggs slow-poached for an hour where the yolks are firmer than the whites. Or short ribs that cook for 48 hours and are fork tender, yet still pink and medium rare. And those are just the quality reasons, there's also a huge convenience factor--both for commercial and home environments.

7) What about all these problems with the vacuum sealers?
Yes, this particular piece of equipment came with a crappy sealer. Unfortunately, the best solution is to buy a commercial chamber sealer, which will run about $2,000. Cheap sealers are a never-ending source of trouble, and you're probably better off using food-safe ziplocs (don't use bargain bags) for any recipe with liquid in the bag.
01:31 AM on 05/05/2010
Wow, lots of strong feelings and misinformation here. Let me try to sift through the big questions:

1) Is it the same as using a crock-pot, dutch oven (at simmer), or low oven?
No. Sous-vide equipment generally operates at lower temperatures. Crock pots can't cook reliably at temperatures below ~200 (depending on the model).

2) What about food-borne illness?
There are risks. The important thing to remember is that pasteurization is a function of temperature AND time. For example, If you roast a chicken and bring it to 165 for 5 minutes, it's pasteurized. Or, cooking sous-vide you can bring it to 135 and hold for 90 minutes. It's just as safe (really...ask the USDA). You just have to be careful.

3) Is the plastic safe?
Well, bags intended for food applications are FDA certified as food safe and don't contain BPA. Is that an iron-clad assurance? Of course not. Lots of things certified by the FDA were eventually proven harmful. Plastic leaches. So do aluminum pots. So do non-stick coatings.

4) Does it take the "soul" out of cooking?
This is really a non-question. It's a cooking method; a tool in a chef's arsenal. Of all the reasons not to cook sous-vide, I think this is the silliest. I can imagine people leveling the same critique when electric ovens were invented ("But you can't smell the fire!")
NightflyLester
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09:32 PM on 05/03/2010
After reading some of these posts, I'm convinced FOX News appears to have started a cooking channel with the amount of outright dim, mislead, and inaccurate information some people have about the materials and science behind this food prep technique. Why are you even here and not watching Sandra Lee with her "if it's from two different cans and mixed, it counts as being homemade" cuisine?

A food snob? sure, but an informed food snob
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BlueZoo
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01:31 PM on 05/03/2010
Note to self: Never, ever, click onto this subject when you're hungry! Those lamb chops made my hungry stomach growl! As for the sous vide machine, I'd have one in a second if they weren't so costly. I've seen them used many times by the very best chefs and everything always comes out so moist and appetizing that I'm convinced they indeed have value in the kitchen!
11:44 AM on 05/03/2010
I just want to point out that you can get a Lodge dutch oven, nearly the quality of Le Creuset, for a tiny fraction of the cost. I LOVE mine, and if you care to have more than one (e.g., two sizes), it would require a mortgage on our house to purchase it.
11:56 AM on 05/03/2010
*won't require a mortgage, I meant to say.
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08:20 PM on 05/02/2010
I have two thoughts:
1. How sure are we that the plastic is safe?
2. Could you not create a similar effect by using a vacuum sealer and a pot of water in a low oven? Really--have you tried it?

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03:09 PM on 04/30/2010
We have a water bath. Not this one. We really enjoy using it. For all of you out there snarking that it's not real cooking - you're just trying to sell us some sour grapes. It is real cooking and it's really good cooking. No, it's not for every day but we've had some of the yummiest food come out of it. As for the plastic - no proof so stop whining. You don't want it, don't buy it but don't rain on the parade of others who enjoy the fun. Besides - it's what the restaurants use to get all your steaks out to your table at the same time.
11:15 PM on 04/30/2010
Ha well said - if it's good enough for Heston Blumenthal then it's good enough for me too :)
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newtom
eschew obfuscation
10:57 AM on 04/30/2010
Look folks -- this is not a kitchen device intended for everyone. If you don't want one, don't buy it. First of all, this is a gourmet cooking appliance that's been adapted for the high-end home cook. Those of you who would want or need one of these would already be cooking way above the levels of the average home cook. The professional models cost in excess of $2,000 so this is quite affordable in comparison to that. You have to be serious cook to need a sous vide.
12:51 PM on 04/30/2010
With all due respect, I am a serious cook and I "cook way above the levels of the average home cook." And speaking as such, serious cooks don't need one. This is "cooking" the way using a microwave is "cooking". It's like that "semi-homemade" nonsense with a plug and a heat setting.

I don't understand how the author of this article can rave about it when it requires the user to first buy and then dispose of all that plastic....which probably leaches carcinogens into the dindins anyway. I'll cook for real, thanks. Y'all can keep the lukewarm meat baths.
07:32 PM on 04/30/2010
You may be a serious cook, and you may refuse to use a microwave but don't assume that one implies the other. You can only become a better cook by learning new techniques. Everything else being equal, a cook who won't use a microwave always will be a little less skilled and versatile than a cook who does use a microwave. The same with a water bath.

Microwaves are incredibly energy-efficient, because most of the energy they produce is absorbed by water molecules, which is the only thing that they can heat. You don't waste energy warming cooking water and air. Nothing is better for reheating, They also are really good for cooking vegetables (like steaming only faster). The fastest and best way of cooking corn I've ever tried is microwaving them in their husks.
08:08 PM on 04/30/2010
if you knew what you were talking about you might be dangerous Sous-vide is used the in the kitchens of keller, achatz, blumenthal and the famed Ferran Adrià of el bulli some of the most impressive and well regarded restaurants on the planet...the plastic is specially designed not to leach anything and are of the the highest food grade standard due to the long immersion times that can be involved...just because you don't understand it and how it is turning the cooking world on it head, might be time to take your head out of the sand or your posterior .
10:10 AM on 04/30/2010
This sounds so environmentally friendly. We need to keep those farmers growing plastic crops in business, after all.

Seriously, this process involves thick plastic, a warm water bath, electricity, a big appliance on your counter -- why is this called cooking? Clearly you can't smell the food as it cooks, which is part of the culinary experience. And you have to finish it off in a pan anyway to make it look good, so you don't save any energy or clean up time. Sounds like it takes way more time and effort than just inviting your friends into the kitchen and actually *cooking*.
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lioness39
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10:50 AM on 04/30/2010
Co-sign. The plastic is a turn off. Not environmentally friendly at all and some doctors have mentioned cancer in relation to cooking in plastic.
08:10 PM on 04/30/2010
different plastic, all plastic is not created equal...you might wanna educate yourself before scaring others because of your own ignorance
10:30 PM on 04/30/2010
Shannon Crowell, you previously made the ridiculously ignorant claim that bpa is the only health concern with any plastics, so you might want to educate YOURSELF before talking about a subject that you clearly know virtually nothing about whatsoever.

Sous vide cooking may or may not be safe, but the bags are made of polyethylene terephthalate (PET) and the diethylhydroxylamine (DEHA) in it is potentially carcinogenic.
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
12:45 AM on 05/02/2010
Yeah, but I think all plastic is a petroleum by product and I already have more than enough of it it my life.
02:33 AM on 04/30/2010
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looks to be a wonderful laboratory device for culturing microbes
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08:12 PM on 04/30/2010
the science behind sous-vide is quite sound low temp+long time=high temp +short time

a guide and the science can be found here http://amath.colorado.edu/~baldwind//sous-vide.html
02:57 AM on 05/01/2010
the science may be all well and good-when used by a scientist or a trained chef in a high turnover restaurant if used exactly, precisely in accord with manufacturers instructions, and starting with meat that is absolutely free of any bacterial pathogens and handled with absolute cleanliness----but in the hands of a layperson home cook, the chance of contamination is extremely high, and the possibility for culture of anaerobic bacteria is far from negligible. ...

http://www.fao.org/docrep/004/t0279e/T0279E03.htm
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elcerritan
My bio is not micro
12:20 AM on 04/30/2010
I'm sticking with my stove.
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floodberg
Attorney (ret.)
11:31 PM on 04/29/2010
I know the inventor who developed this technology, folks. I just passed your comments on to him. It was originally developed for a very large restaurant chain; the corporate chefs prepared the same meal using the standard method and this one, and the CEOs and officers did a blind taste test. This technology won on every rating system.
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Jimboy17
10:12 PM on 04/29/2010
I don't want one for cooking. I want one to make marinades that penetrate, desserts that can be kept half-prepared in the fridge for days (souffles and brulees) and to freeze just about everything I can with no risk of freezer burn! That's what it's for.
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floodberg
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11:37 PM on 04/29/2010
Brulees? Need a taster?
11:52 PM on 04/29/2010
The you don't want this. For marinades get a vacuum pump and chamber, preferably a big bell jar would be perfect because you could see what's going on. Immerse the thing to be marinaded in an open container of marinade, and put it in the chamber. Draw down the vacuum slowly. The temperature won't change but at some point the marinade will appear to boil. It's not really boiling, at least not at first, but just releasing dissolved gasses. The meat also will start bubbling. When this happens hold the stop lowering the pressure until the "boiling" nearly stops, then continue to lower it. Keep doing this until you get the pressure down as low as you can take it. Hold it at the low pressure for a minute or so, then suddenly bring it back up to atmospheric pressure. This is the stage at which the marinade will actually penetrate the meat, as it is sucked in to fill the voids left by the vacuum. Repeat the process 2 or 3 times. The results are amazing. The time it takes depends on the capacity of you pump and the size of the chamber you are using, but it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes for three cycles.
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08:22 PM on 05/02/2010
I agree--you need a vacuum sealer. not this technology.
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10:11 PM on 04/29/2010
Sorry - this sounds like an far, FAR too-expensive substitute for a perfectly good crock pot. My carnitas come out beautifully, AND I can make chili in it. 20 bucks.
08:14 PM on 04/30/2010
crock pots have neither the temp range nor the accuracy needed for sous-vide have fun eating your chili