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"Job Creators" Aren't Doing Their Job

Posted: 01/12/12 06:40 PM ET

If you put long hours and hard work into a job, would you be upset with a boss who paid you with a handful of nickels, especially if hundred-dollar bills spilled out of your boss' pockets while he dug around for the coins?

As taxpayers, Americans expect to get what they pay for -- safe infrastructure, prompt emergency response, good schools and a strong social safety net. As shareholders in profitable companies, investors expect to get what they pay for -- dividends. And as job seekers in a troubled economy, America's unemployed are trying to find work wherever they can; but corporate greed is depriving taxpayers, shareholders and job seekers of what they need and deserve.

With $2 trillion at home and $1.4 trillion abroad, corporations are sitting on record-high piles of cash. For example, Apple holds $76 billion by itself, more than the U.S. Treasury. Yet, these hoards of cash remain untaxed. A 35 percent tax on corporate America's cash reserves in the United States alone would generate $700 billion in revenue. That amount would reverse every budget cut in every state, rejuvenating America's schools and infrastructure by recreating 400,000 public sector jobs lost since the recession.

If corporations simply invested their American stash of cash reserves in creating good jobs for America's unemployed, they could put 3.5 million new people to work in the private sector each year for five years, at an annual salary of $40,000. If corporations just used their cash reserves to pay dividends to their shareholders, investors like the Mississippi Public Employees Retirement System wouldn't have to cut benefits for their retirees.

Corporate executives blame the "uncertainty" of the economy as an excuse to sit on piles of cash, yet the economic boost of 17.5 million jobs created in five years would dramatically lower the unemployment rate and increase GDP, bolstering local economies by creating a surge of new demand for struggling small business owners. Using cash reserves to pay dividends to shareholders would restore confidence in the market and strengthen the investments millions are counting on for their retirement.

It is both greedy and irresponsible for American corporations to allow untaxed cash to pile up on their balance sheets while American infrastructure crumbles, public education suffers, the unemployed struggle to survive and shareholders lose their investments. It's time for America's "job creators" to do their job.

 

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If you put long hours and hard work into a job, would you be upset with a boss who paid you with a handful of nickels, especially if hundred-dollar bills spilled out of your boss' pockets while he dug...
If you put long hours and hard work into a job, would you be upset with a boss who paid you with a handful of nickels, especially if hundred-dollar bills spilled out of your boss' pockets while he dug...
 
 
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10:40 AM on 01/18/2012
What really burns me is that I personally have fallen through the cracks- I have not filed for unemployment, or food stamps. I am considering doing so in the near future and have nothing against people who file. You do what you need to do. We have been spending our savings and cannot keep doping it much longer. So far, as one of the underemployed who belongs to a union, I am scrambling with many others in my field for the few jobs. So the work is not steady and very physically demanding for a 61 year old. We are self insured and it's killing us. Believe me, I would rather be working. But I have never even been counted. So the unemployment figures are misleading as they are still very high, while corporations and banks are just sitting on capital. I am disgusted.
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waltifarian
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
04:39 PM on 01/16/2012
If Corporations are people they should be expected to be patriotic. Patriotism often requires putting country before self and profit.
shessomoney
Liberal Elite-Made In U.S.A.
02:02 PM on 01/16/2012
Corporations may be people under CU but they do not have a conscience. That is left to the human people. Buy with your conscience for whats best for the country. If you know a corporation is exploiting workers globally, don't buy their products.
11:28 AM on 01/16/2012
CORPORATIONS AREN'T CHARITIES!!!!! They are designed to reward their customers with products, and their employees and shareholders with income. That being said, corporations should be permitted to repatriate their overseas profits at a zero tax rate if 90% of these profits are paid out as DIVIDENDS. The DIVIDENDS would be taxed at the individual level where the RICH would pay the highest percentage in taxes.
01:05 PM on 01/16/2012
Corporations have rights and responsibilities like natural people. They can be charitable if they feel like it.
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waltifarian
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
04:41 PM on 01/16/2012
An excellent point showing how corporations are not, if fact, people. i.e they have no responsibility to be patriotic.
08:31 AM on 01/16/2012
We are in a global economy now. We compete with people both at home and abroad for jobs/prosperity. If these corporations wanted to invest more in the US they would, obviously they have no interest in doing so.
10:36 PM on 01/15/2012
Money and greed has corrupted this country. This is really selfish what these corporation are doing. Could this be a ploy to give the republican party an uphand in there quest to get control of the white house, congress and the senate?
08:31 PM on 01/15/2012
Job creators have all the incentive in the world to want to create more jobs when creating each new job increases profitability or potential profitability. However, when you have so much economic, policy, and monetary uncertainty ahead of you, it is prudent to sit on cash to protect the business you currently have.

Companies will not start investing until this uncertainty reduces. The government through bad policy are not helping the situation.

Kai
missprissanna
the weight of the news nearly broke my back
12:05 AM on 01/16/2012
"Uncertainty" is the most over used, misused and annoying word to come from this ridiculous disaster.

Nothing is certain.....certainly not in the business world...wall street, cnbc and the rest have all used this one word to blame, excuse and ignore, any and all situations they aren't happy about.....
itolduso
lateral thinker
01:53 PM on 01/16/2012
I am CERTAIN that money - like blood - loses it's value and effectiveness the longer it remains uncirculated.....and left idle too long, becomes worthless
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
03:50 PM on 01/15/2012
Just a minute ago you (E_Warren) told me the 1% relied on the infrastructure, schools, and police protection that the 99% provided. Now you tell me that if I don't pony up, it will all crumble. Which is it? I am saving cash for the tax increases that are planned by this administration. I am also saving for the mandates, regulations, and inflation that are currently in place. I am not hiring a soul until you stop calling me greedy and look in the mirror at the problem.
08:32 PM on 01/15/2012
Ha...best post ever!!!
itolduso
lateral thinker
01:56 PM on 01/16/2012
You are like a timid farmer, who, fearful of the uncertainties of weather, lets his seedcorn rot in the silo
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
03:30 PM on 01/16/2012
Money doesn't rot like seedcorn. Farmers are not timid, they take a risk every year. I have been fooled before (Cli_nton) and had taxes raised retroactively on me, and "once fooled, twice shy". Class warfare was only the last straw in my disappointment in this administration. I am voting early and not hiring until we get a change. You want him to succeed, you hire. I'm sitting this one out.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
03:38 PM on 01/15/2012
funny a story on how to get offshore money to come here without dropping the tax rate. its not here now, and isnt coming any time soon until the tax rate is less than 10%.
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03:24 PM on 01/15/2012
"Job Creators" is just a marketing term, sort of like "New and Improved!", for the few truly powerful folks who are more likely to ship jobs overseas (or anything else they can think of) that will get them a bigger mansion and a yacht.

Like most marketing slogans it is devoid of any real meaning.

Oh, sure, it's often bandied about as referring to small business owners and farmers, but that's not who the politicians are really interested in helping or protecting. It's just a nice sounding politically useful term for why big corporations and hedge funds need more subsidies, tax breaks, bailouts, legal immunities and regulatory exemptions, or anything else the Legislature can give away to them. It fools tons and tons of ordinary people into thinking that the politicians are looking out for them, when in fact the politicians are just lining their own pockets and those of their mega-wealthy friends. And it wins elections. It's... "Winning!" LOL
03:00 PM on 01/15/2012
It's hard to create jobs when the ONLY job that you are interested in is your own....Face it. Selfishness, self absorption greed and arrogance rule in this country. Talent, innovation and real ability hit the bricks years ago only to be replaced by rampant nepoitism, mediocrity and fear. The more dispicable, morally depraved and indifferent a person is the more "value" they have to corporate America..
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SmileAndActNice
Utilitarianism, the -ism that works.
02:31 PM on 01/15/2012
Come on Peter.

Dazzle us all by explaining how raising the top marginal tax rate won't actually cause me to hire someone due to the dynamics I explained a few posts down. How I just *think* I'd hire someone if the alternative was paying the money in taxes but I wouldn't really.

Please.

I really want to see what contortions you go through trying to discount the obvious. I've got popcorn ready and everything.
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
04:00 PM on 01/15/2012
I don't know what peter will dazzle you with, but here is what I will do if the tax rate is increased. I will raise prices (and sell less product), I will lay off people (won't need as many due to higher prices on my products), I will work a lot less (because I have less mouths to feed), I will put the company name on my (I mean "my companies") new fishing boat, and I will wait until taxes come down until I earn up to my potential.
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SmileAndActNice
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09:53 PM on 01/16/2012
You say that, but that wasn't what happened before and you offer no realistic rationalization as to why it would happen now.

You will not raise prices because you are at the best point in the supply/demand cost curve as far as you can tell and a profit tax won't effect that.

You will not lay off people because the only reason you hired them was that they brought in more money then the cost to hire so firing them means that not only is your profit being taxed more, there is less profit to tax.

You will not "work a lot less" because you don't "have less mouths to feed". However many dependents and children you had before you will still have. Your employees are not "mouths to feed". They are investments that are making you profit.

You WILL put the company name on your new fishing boat that you are counting as a business expense. And GREAT! Buying that fishing boat to dodge taxes is *economic activity* just like my assistant. It helps heal the economy.

its precisely what we wanted you to do.

Thanks.
10:37 AM on 01/15/2012
Maybe corporations could pay their employees a decent salary, too, with all that money. Average wages adjusted for inflation haven't gone up in 30 years, despite productivity rising. Yet CEOs get obscenely huge bonuses.
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SmileAndActNice
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11:26 PM on 01/14/2012
Job Creation --- How to get *me* to create a job.

I could hire an assistant. I can afford it. There would be things about it I would like. But I don't *need* an assistant. I just *want* one. And the 40K a year I'd end up paying one ( including health insurance cause I'm a big believer in that ) can be better used for other things. Like investing.

Now lets pretend, just for a moment, that the top marginal tax rate was jacked up to say ... 75%.

After taxes, that 40K is now only 10K since its over the threshold for the top bracket. =(

BUT! Hiring is tax deductible ...

The money you spend on employee benefits, payroll, and payroll taxes don't count towards business income. Which means I'm only *losing* 10K to hire an assistant under that system. The other 30K is gone no matter how you shake it. Either I give it to Uncle Sam or I give it ... to my new Assistant.

I'd rather it go to someone who is doing all the parts of my work that I'm sick of dealing with personally. Least that way I get something for it, ya know?

The high top marginal tax brackets of yesteryear gave something politicians of all stripes are admitting we need desperately now. Certainty. The complete certainty that if you don't do something with the excess cash IT WILL GO AWAY.
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SmileAndActNice
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12:31 AM on 01/15/2012
Lets look at this in reverse.

Reagan lived in an era of high marginal tax rates. 70% in fact. All around him he saw people investing and hiring and he made a very simple mistake. He didn't realize that they were hiring and expanding etc *because of* the high marginal tax rates. He thought they were doing it *despite* the high marginal tax rates.

Big Mistake.

Say you were wealthy when Reagan came into office and had a Butler and Maid on staff for an annual salary of 30K each, 60K total. Well thats pretax. So if you didn't hire them you'd only keep 60K * 30% = 18K. You are getting a butler and a maid for 18K a year out of pocket even though you are paying them 60K because if you hadn't hired them the 42K difference would have gone to Uncle Sam.

Then Reagan slashes the top bracket to 50%. So even though they aren't getting paid a penny more, they are now *costing* you 30K a year out of pocket instead of 18K. It's as if they both came into your office and demanded a 66% pay raise ( even though from their perspective nothing has changed ).

My My... do you really need a butler *and* a maid? Getting quite costly.

They are luxury jobs I'll grant. The employer doesn't turn a profit on the workers. But they are jobs - good ones to boot - and lowering the top marginal tax rate destroyed
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SmileAndActNice
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12:39 AM on 01/15/2012
So next time Peter Combs insists to you that the Government doesn't have any way to take money that gets it into the hands of consumers properly ... remember that he isn't just literally wrong as various government run jobs programs in our nation's history has primed the pump by doing just that.

He's also wrong because the very *threat* of taking the money does much of the work all on its own.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
03:41 PM on 01/15/2012
how quickly we forget that a very few years ago unemployment was a true 4-5% and decent folks were hard to find.....illegals were the 40k a year assistant and everyone wanting to work was. i think we should let vacation travel be a federal deductible expense for individuals....its one of the few ways to actually spread money around from those that have it to those that dont.....i know my 35% discount would be appreciated.
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01:17 PM on 01/14/2012
The government is doing a super job of "job creation". CBS News counted 12 clean energy companies that are having trouble after collectively being approved for more than $6.5 Billion in federal assistance. Five have filed for bankruptcy: The junk bond-rated Beacon, Evergreen Solar, SpectraWatt, AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy and Solyndra.

According to CBS News, Beacon Power, a “green energy storage company,” received $43 million from the government. Standard and Poor’s had given the project a rating of “CCC-plus.”
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SmileAndActNice
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10:42 PM on 01/14/2012
And this is why you don't invest in private industry to create jobs, apparently.

Direct job creation is working much much better.