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Too Far Right On a Bleak Night

Posted: 11/12/11 05:44 PM ET

Last Tuesday night was a bleak one for the Tea Party as election results came in. Although a few of its candidates were elected (Republicans captured the Virginia State Senate by 96 votes but lost a similar effort in Iowa), by and large their ideas were not just defeated -- they were overwhelmingly rejected for being far too radical.

The biggest defeat for the Republican leadership was Ohio, where Governor John Kasich's signature "no right to organize for public servants" bill was repealed overwhelmingly in a referendum, 61 percent to 39 percent. Just as importantly, in an off-year election, voter turnout soared, with 400,000 more Ohioans going to the polls than had turned out in 2010. And an election-eve poll showed that if the presidential election were held today, the Buckeye State would give President Obama an 11-point victory over his nearest Republican opponent, Mitt Romney. Since it would be almost impossible for the Republicans to win without Ohio, this is stunning evidence of just how badly Tea Party extremism is hurting Republican chances in 2012.

Perhaps less surprisingly, Republican efforts in Maine to prune back excessive democracy by repealing election-day registration were also overwhelmingly rebuffed, 59 percent to 41 percent. This is the first time the public has had a chance to vote on the Republican campaign to deny ballot box access to as many voters as possible. Even if Maine was especially unfertile ground for such an effort, it's still reassuring to see how little public support the idea has.

But if Maine is stubbornly independent, Mississippi is equally stubbornly anti-choice. So advocates of reproductive rights were worried that an extreme ballot measure that declared a fertilized egg to be a human being might pass, threatening not only access to abortion but also to family planning and in vitro fertilization. But the measure failed, getting only 40 percent of the vote.

What's interesting about these rightwing defeats is that they were accompanied, for the first time in years, by substantial defections of voters who consider themselves mainline conservatives. While Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour said he would vote for the "egg is a person" bill because he opposes abortion, he also said that he had "concerns" about the "ambiguity" of Initiative 26. In Ohio, as well, there was widespread grumbling and defection from Republican elected officials not eager to go after the civil rights of police officers, firefighters, nurses, and teachers.

What can these results tell us about both the current national mood and what might happen in 2012?

One interpretation is that the right has simply gone too far. Governor Kasich, America's least popular chief executive, summed up the lesson of his defeat in Ohio by saying, "We tried to do too much too soon." And in Mississippi, many leading opponents of abortion actually opposed the "egg is a person" proposal because they believed it could provoke a serious Supreme Court rebuff.

But another, more intriguing interpretation is that these stinging defeats for the right are part of the growing global narrative of public distrust of leaders -- of all kinds and ideological stripes. In this narrative, people threw out so many Democrats in November 2010 because they felt that those Democrats had not stood up for ordinary people against insiders and the privileged. Instead, they were bailing out banks and auto companies (but not homeowners) and requiring ordinary citizens to buy health insurance (but leaving drug companies free to price gouge).

But disenfranchising voters (Maine) or depriving public servants of the right to protect themselves (Ohio) or imposing a religious definition on the practice of medicine (Mississippi) were all seen as simply part of the same pattern -- the out-of-touch actions of a leadership class that has lost sight of the idea that it exists to serve ordinary people, not privileged insiders.

The day after the election, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman drew some intriguing comparisons between the Occupy Wall Street movement here and the anti-corruption movement led by Anna Hazare in India. And it's undoubtedly true that the single issue on which Occupy Wall Street and the real grassroots of the Tea Party strongly agree is probably the influence of big money on our politics.

But if the real rebellion is coming from neither the right nor the left, but from the outside, and if the real demand is for leaders who will take the side of the ordinary person, then I'd argue that two big conclusions are staring us in the face:

First, the most urgent priority for the Democratic party leadership should be to free itself from dependence on insider campaign contributions and influence.

Second, the current Koch-brothers version of conservatism is in an almost impossible bind, because it corruptly attempts to harness anti-establishment voter sentiment in cynical subservience to the policy interests of that same establishment.

Yes, the Democrats can still easily lose. But, long-term, the Republicans can't really win -- unless they completely rethink their ideology.  

 
 
 

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Last Tuesday night was a bleak one for the Tea Party as election results came in. Although a few of its candidates were elected (Republicans captured the Virginia State Senate by 96 votes but lost a s...
Last Tuesday night was a bleak one for the Tea Party as election results came in. Although a few of its candidates were elected (Republicans captured the Virginia State Senate by 96 votes but lost a s...
 
 
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12:40 PM on 11/14/2011
"A constituti­onal amendment to get around a wayward SCOTUS..." indeed; and while the delegates are at it let them attempt to deal with congressional insider trading, corporate financing, outlawing the filibuster, term limits, K street etc etc.. Some say an Article V CC is too dangerous to contemplate. To buy this is to agree that the will of the majority in a democracy is also too dangerous to contemplate.
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Bombadillo22
Not all who wander are lost...
09:28 AM on 11/13/2011
'First, the most urgent priority for the Democratic party leadership should be to free itself from dependence on insider campaign contributions and influence.'

Ostensibly, that 'train has left' the proverbial station. A perfect opportunity to embark on such a process waxed and waned when the democrats held the majority in both houses of congress and Obama first sounded the alarm on the dissonant and paradoxical SCOTUS decision in 'Citizen’s United' that bestowed upon corporations and any other inclined foreign entity heretofore unrelated to the principle of 'government of, by and for the people (not just consumer,) an equal footing, if not far more influential (by virtue of the unmatched wealth they could bring to campaign financing ) role in determining the laws that protect our individual freedoms.

There was other big fish to fry at the time, we all know, but acknowledging, with hindsight the so named ‘urgent priority,’ President Obama would have been well advised then to refuse to sign any other legislation, coordinating with Speaker Pelosi and Senate Leader Reid in a useful government shutdown (republicans obstructed as much real progress on economic recovery and infrastructure rehabilitation as possible anyway)-- until such time as congress could enact campaign finance laws governing the ‘insider campaign contributions and influence,’ the author detests.

A constitutional amendment to get around a wayward SCOTUS, is a radical solution (strangely) and just the sort of goal, perhaps, the OWS movement could wrap their energy around and get behind.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
08:17 AM on 11/13/2011
The Tea Party is not just right wing. They have libertarian smaller government ideas that do not sit well with mainstream GOP. The GOP is dancing with the devil and knows that the Tea Party will turn on the mainstream GOP. Each is using the other.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
07:49 AM on 11/13/2011
OK - so the country is more moderate than the GOTP wants us to believe. So why are moderate candidates on the GOTP side not showing better poll numbers? Huntsmann and Gary Johnson are zero in the polls and they are the only remotely moderate candidates. These pollsters have to be sampling some folks that do not believe in "torture good", "pray you straight", "cut medicare" or "bomb them diplomacy".
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:21 PM on 11/13/2011
Because the people who vote in primaries tend to be the extremes. Moderates and Indies stay home and complain during election time that their choice is only between two people. Get involved in the primaries, people.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
10:42 AM on 11/14/2011
It checked out the stats and you are right. I did not realize the difference between the primaries and general election. In the primaries some states are down to 10 and 15% that's sad. The most was California at 40% in the race I checked out.

US citizens should be ashamed and not complain about the government if they can't see fit to participate.
GHarry
Kitty wrangler
07:36 AM on 11/13/2011
The conservative movement is like a snake that is swallowing its own tail. It can't bring itself to admit that its premises are incorrect and outdated, so it keeps on doing the same things -- just more so. That's why Republicans keep getting wackier and more extreme. Their big-money funders -- some of them wealthy conservative Christians -- live in a bubble that is virtually untouched by reality.
02:45 AM on 11/13/2011
You forgot to mention that Democrats out-spent Republicans in Ohio by more than 4X. I am OK with that, I would just prefer that the liberals stop their disingenuous attack of big money.

Just all just another liberal lie.
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lynettema
Little old lady
01:23 PM on 11/13/2011
Spending some money is the only way to get the facts to the voters because we all know that the media only reports the he said/he said stories. No facts come out in the media, just the opinion on both sides.
12:25 AM on 11/13/2011
Democrats live in the world of should. Republicans live in the world of is. That is why the Republicans can better understand economics. Economics is the study of the way people behave in relationship to their money. That is the world of is.
GHarry
Kitty wrangler
07:41 AM on 11/13/2011
Republicans better understand economics? That's a good one. They certainly proved it in the runup to the 2008 economic crash, didn't they? Actually, conservatives live in a bubble in which wealth itself is a virtue -- no matter how it is acquired -- and rules are bent or rewritten to accommodate the fantasies of those with the most money. Sadly, that's pretty much the definition of American politics.
01:15 PM on 11/13/2011
I don't know where you got that idea. Do you see that Obama is rich and out of touch with America? He is part of the 1%. He slashed fuel assistance this year. Both parties were responsible for allowing the horrific financial crisis to happen. Please read The Presidency of Bill Clinton, www.wikipedia.org. The lessons of the great depression were forgotten. The laws meant to protect the economy were changed.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
07:58 AM on 11/13/2011
The world and economies have changed over the last 50 years and much of the GOTP message is stuck in the 1960's. Yes I agree the Donkeys are more likely to strive for a better world (world of should as you said) but that does not make the ideas wrong if they are realistic.

Both sides need to adabt to the realities of the world and where it is headed. I think that means a more limited and focused federal government. And that does not mean we abandon the ideals that we were based upon.
01:28 PM on 11/13/2011
Of course not. I agree with most of what you say and it is clear that both parties are responsible for this financial crisis. I read the Presidency of Bill Clinton @ wikipedia. org. Add that to the banking deregulation under Reagan. It's a wonder that such a long time went by before the financial crisis happened. My point about the Republicans is that they study economics and believe it. So far, Obama goes against every concept that the study of economics reveals.
12:12 AM on 11/13/2011
I'm amazed that there are still fundamentalist religionists who keep expecting a modern-day Great Awakening to occur, similar to the ones in past centuries. But it's a fool's errand to expect one here in the 21st Century since we have so much more access to information - both scientific and archaeological - than people had back then, information that casts serious doubt on the book they have always relied on to entice the ignorant masses into believing what they want them to believe. It's not for no reason that those who define themselves as "non-religious" comprise the fastest growing category these days. Progress may be faltering at times, but it is always ultimately in a forward direction. This attempt on the part of conservatives to march us back into previous eras of unenlightenment is therefore doomed to failure.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
08:04 AM on 11/13/2011
On the whole well said. Fear of the change all around can lead folks to put faith in the wrong movement though. That can alter your "ultimately in a forward direction" idea.
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lancedaboil
All is Maya
11:59 AM on 11/13/2011
Christians are "I choose to believers". They feel that reality is a matter of Choice, it's their Faith that makes things real. I believe that God resides in Reality. This allows people like Murdoch to control these people by feeding their "faith" with unrealities.
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cynic1
T'each his own,said the man,as he kissed the cow
10:20 AM on 11/14/2011
Blasphemy I say! ; }
DianneinCA
running forward, laughing...
10:00 PM on 11/12/2011
"Since it would be almost impossible for the Republicans to win without Ohio, this is stunning evidence of just how badly Tea Party extremism is hurting Republican chances in 2012." The Tea Party IS the Republican party. That is the simple truth of the matter and the reason for Republicans dour outlook. The Republican party has embraced the fanatics and the haters and are now going to pay the price.

In past elections Republicans leaned right for the primary and went center for the general. That is no longer possible with the 24/7 news cycle and the internet. What they say now will stick with them throughout the general. The extreme actions of the Republicans elected in the wave election of 2010 has cast a dark shadow over any and all claims to moderation by the party. Polls show the majority already blames Republican obstruction for the lack of jobs and that will only get worse as the President continues to push for his jobs bill and the Republican congress continues to obstruct.
10:56 PM on 11/12/2011
If Obama had begun his administration pushing this current jobs bill, 2010 would not have happened. He might well have earned enough support to create a real health care reform bill that didn't sell the public to the insurance companies, which would make this coming election a cakewalk to re-election.

But no. Obama made his choices, and leaves us with only one: go the lesser of two evils route, or vote third party.
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JDH1950
01:41 AM on 11/13/2011
But, remember, a vote for a 3rd party is a vote for the republicans.
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CBasilJr
62 Retired Vet
11:40 AM on 11/13/2011
I think that Heinlein said it best when he wrote that when you're in doubt as to who to vote for, pick the candidate you don't like the most and vote for his opponent.

He first said this in "Time Enough for Love" which is a very long book. It was later included in the book of Lazarus Long's sayings.

Read either of them as they may give you a better appreciation of what we're seeing today by one of the (if not the) greatest authors of science fiction.
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Daniel Myers
Then man created god in his image.
09:45 PM on 11/12/2011
Good, as a republican, the religious leg of the party ought to get a serious case of whiplash for trying to take over the party as they have. I consider the right wings religious turn almost as toxic as the democrats past attempts to ban guns.
Solutions needed, not prayers.
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2pence
ignorance should not be contagious
09:43 PM on 11/12/2011
The 2010 elections reflected the rhetoric of deception. Tarp was meant to prevent a depression by boosting the banks to a level where business could still issue short term payroll loans, buy US teasuries to shore the markets and lastly, this is a global economy to our never ending chagrin, keep the creditors at bay. The faiure of the government under Obama was to put regulatory teeth back into banking oversight, by and by a Republican lead obstruction. Bailing out GM and Chrysler was a necessary evil to shore up a major core manufactuing sector; thus, saving significant US based jobs which built the middle class. Austerity is a joke in economic free falls, the very reason this Great Recession is becoming endless. The Republican bugle call for the "job creators" of business and the moneyed, rather than taking the time to practice historical insight that shows stimulus, government generated projects, and regulatory oversight played the role in ending the Depression, has stalled the American economy. WWII helped, but I believe a sane person would wish to avoid creating a war of that magnitude to jump start the economy, so the clarion call should be for domestic investment to place money into the hands of average Americans enabling them to create demand on business and business hiring to fulfill demand. Rather than trickle down, economies are circular with the end and beginning of the money cycle encompassing all points on the path, not just one point on a linear decline.
DianneinCA
running forward, laughing...
10:03 PM on 11/12/2011
Good points well said.

Fanned and faved
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racetoinfinity
racetoeternity
11:08 PM on 11/12/2011
Milton Friedman Chicago school of free-marketism fetishistic system has utterly failed and caused our current great Recession. Break up the big banks and start prosecuting fraud there or we risk another Great Depression. Free market economics neoliberalism is proven to be poisonous but for the 1%.
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JimWind
Be still like a Mt, yet flow like a river
12:25 AM on 11/13/2011
The only thing that "M F" has given to history for the last 30 years has been a hollowing out of the very core of countless nations economies which has led to the mess they created today.
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builder101
VOTE!
09:32 PM on 11/12/2011
Dear GOP,

Where are the jobs you promised in 2010?

Signed,
Still waiting in Texas
Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
09:58 PM on 11/12/2011
Oh that...that was just a joke to trick suckers into for voting for republicans. It was a joke David.....
apiazza
There is no such thing as a fiscal conservative.
12:31 AM on 11/13/2011
They are so "focused like a laser" on jobs that they forgot to vote. Or even come up with a bill.
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tutorintoledo
Conservative AND Liberal. Depends on the issue!
08:54 PM on 11/12/2011
So what you are saying, is that the left when too far and was punished in 2010, and the right went to far and was punished in 2011.

Is anyone actually paying attention to this and thinking - perhaps both sides need to come to the middle?
Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
09:59 PM on 11/12/2011
The middle doesn't exist.....That's just a mad up place for politicians to pretend they are in.
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leftbehind2000
Occupy Your LIFE.
10:13 PM on 11/12/2011
Either you missed the point, or we read different articles.
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tutorintoledo
Conservative AND Liberal. Depends on the issue!
06:36 PM on 11/14/2011
Or we are looking at things from a different background and perspective.
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giftsthatpurr
zestful life
08:34 PM on 11/12/2011
Regarding the recent defeat of GOP measures and defeats, and also the 2010 defeat of Democrats, I certainly agree that folks from both parties are tired of what Carl Pope calls " the out-of-touch actions of a leadership class that has lost sight of the idea that it exists to serve ordinary people, not privileged insiders." Those "insiders" have exerted heavy pressures on their candidates who are dependent on their campaign contributions (and more.) And now that Corporations are people, their influence is even heavier. OWS is right! The top 1% are having a field day while the rest of us keep sinking while hoping for a life boat. No one wins but the top dogs under this kind of a scenario. Carl Pope has stated what needs to be said, even though most of us already know it!
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June25
08:13 PM on 11/12/2011
During the primaries the Republicans swing right then during the general election a shift to the center.Most Americans support early abortion but opose late term abortion.The secret is to predict the center.
Chinawanderer
A biography should never be micro
09:16 PM on 11/12/2011
While you are right about the GOP/Tea Party's behavior during elections, what they have proven since 2010 at the very least that they will try to govern from the right.

The supposed general election swing to the middle is nothing more than the GOP/Tea Party being dishonest.
apiazza
There is no such thing as a fiscal conservative.
12:33 AM on 11/13/2011
The center is the pro-choice position. The extreme is the pro-life position.