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Do They Actually Cast These Votes? Yes, Virginia, They Do!

Posted: 10/13/11 11:10 PM ET

Lost in the kerfuffle over whether or not new Republican frontrunner Herman Cain's tax plan actually proves that he is the anti-Christ (as hinted by Michele Bachmann) was some much more serious business.

Members of the House of Representatives have been casting a string of votes of staggering recklessness and cupidity. The House voted to delay EPA's authority to regulate toxic air pollutants from cement kilns, but it also voted, in a virtual partisan lockstep, to defeat a series of amendments designed to retain at least minimal protection for the public health. The House voted 246-166 to prevent the EPA from limiting emissions from cement kilns even if the emissions caused learning disabilities or harmed brain development. It voted 253-166 to prevent the EPA from acting even if it was essential to improve children's health. It rejected several amendments that merely required Congress to admit that mercury and other cement-kiln emissions cause premature deaths, heart attacks, asthma, and brain damage. The House even voted, 254-169, to reject an amendment by Representative Henry Waxman that conceded that the rules, if allowed to go into effect, would reduce the amount of mercury deposited on land and water.

Then the House turned its machete to EPA standards designed to protect the public from toxic emissions from industrial boilers. Once again, when the Democrats proposed that regulations go into effect if they were essential to protecting health, Republicans voted them down. Even if these regulations were needed to prevent brain damage, House Republicans said, they should be blocked. Even if the nation's ten most polluted cities -- no way.

These are by far the worst environmental votes cast in any Congress in American history. Yet they are drawing almost no attention. And it's not because the public wants to be poisoned.

These votes were all cast at the insistence of the House Republican leadership, with dozens of House Republicans from districts where EPA protections are very popular (including districts carried by Barack Obama in 2008) going along with the Koch Brothers and polluting industries.

The Obama administration made it clear that it would veto this legislation if it ever arrived on the president's desk. New polling by CERES shows that the public strongly supports the EPA in its efforts to protect the public health. In fact, the CERES poll showed that 62 percent of Republican voters want Congress to let the EPA do its job. More striking, over the past year, as congressional Republicans and Fox News have mounted the most intense assault ever on the fundamental principle that the federal government should protect the health of all Americans, public support for EPA scientists as the right people to make decisions about pollution standards has increased.

The more Americans realize that the alternative to letting the EPA protect their health is to count on members of Congress or (even worse) polluting industries, the more they like the EPA. And voters are not alone. Over three-quarters of small business owners, the people in whose name the Republican leadership likes to attack public health protection, favor EPA regulations and think that they are good for business and jobs. In fact, polling shows that the public thinks that even the Obama administration is coddling polluters and exposing Americans to unacceptable health risks by slowing down the EPA's proposed new health standards for smog.

It's hard to avoid the impression that the media have simply abandoned their role as public watchdogs, and have settled down to just do "color commentary" like sports announcers. But at least on Monday Night Football, they give you the score!

 
 
 

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10:15 PM on 10/25/2011
the obvious solution is to make the next poisonous plant right in the back yards of the super-rich. If the Kochs have to breathe polluted air, they will change their tune.
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lrobb
Gold Standard = four paws and a tail
08:24 AM on 10/17/2011
The most endangered species at the moment is the American Job. Frankly, if we have to frack oil shale while we work on green energy, I'm all for it. If a Delta Smelt dies so that a California farmer can live, count me in.

I have no desire to semi-starve in a cave in a world which runs on extortionately expensive green energy, and there is absolutely no need to. Eventually we will come up with a variety of cheap, renewable energy sources. Until we do, however, we all still have to work and live.

Humans are at the top of the food chain for a reason.
10:20 PM on 10/25/2011
I'd suggest you read the article again. You seem unclear on the concept of poisoning humans. Your job will do you no good if you are dead.
Plus, change is possible. I talked this afternoon with someone who is about to start producing something in the alternate energy field that will make it more abundant and less expensive. I also am involved with a project that will make solar energy one third the price it is now and also work after dark, and use less roof space. Surely others are also working on improvements that will make your opinion obsolete very soon. They will bring good manufacturing jobs and less expensive renewable energy. In the meantime, why poison us all?
10:23 AM on 10/16/2011
Wonder why my comment isn't coming through.. will try to maintain a P-G rating on this third attempt, but I really thought I used decent language in the previous two..

Anyway, so in my opinion global warming is a conclusive fact, proven time and time again by international independent research. The thought that there's some kind of sinister conspiracy by whoever is absurd; who in the world would profit from that? The highly influential solar energy industry? Retirement home interest groups that want to stop their residents complaining about car noises?

It's not even about that though, if you consider the real issue at hand. I mean who could be against cancer prevention? Are there really people out there who are not convinced of those dangers? Big corporations are not led by great humanitarians. Stuff like this needs to be regulated, no matter who you vote for. Otherwise you might as well stop governing altogether.
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04:47 PM on 10/14/2011
Yes, Virginia and when you visit the Lincoln Memorial, Lincoln is now facing the wall!
04:43 PM on 10/14/2011
"Members of the House of Representatives have been casting a string of votes of staggering recklessness and cupidity." I do think you meant "stupidity". Par for the republican course.
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josefz
In memory of Josef Zawinul
04:55 PM on 10/14/2011
No, cupidity hits the nail on the head.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
05:52 PM on 10/14/2011
Cupidity is a desire for wealth, so I think it fits, too.
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Dragontech
Looking for a good micro-brew
01:03 PM on 10/15/2011
That should read 40 years running their empire, since they inherited it in 1968
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Bubblessharky
Where sanity dares to tread
03:59 PM on 10/14/2011
We as Americans have allowed us to be bribed. Not directly, but with a very carefully thought out plan. Make our lives so comfortable, for such a long enough period that as things slowly got worse for the middle class, we then started borrowing more to maintain our cruisy lifestyle. We were actually encouraged to do so by the banks, economists and the media. We became hooked, addicts if you will on having goods, services and lifestyle without having to work hard or even earn the money. China stepped up and made it even easier for us to keep on keeping on by providing goods that got cheaper and more abundant.

But like every thing that is too good to be true, it had to end. And it did. We are now in debt up to eyeballs and we find all our politicians on both sides are bought, our supreme court is bought, our media is biased or bought and now the masters are pulling the strings.

The question is what do we, or can we do about the state of affairs? It just may be too late. But at least some of us are saying that we are not going to be bought any longer and that we need to change, even if this means dramatic changes to our lifestyles.
04:20 PM on 10/14/2011
Well said! Ending trade with China is necessary but painful. Its the medicine we need to break our dependency on slave labor. Same goes for border security and ending illegal labor. We also need to confront those selling this dangerous idea that work visas are necessary.

We need to end globalization. America is our home and we need to homestead it. We need to learn to live within our borders and live sustainably.
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Bubblessharky
Where sanity dares to tread
07:46 PM on 10/14/2011
I wasn't actually suggesting we end trade with China. Nor will putting up trade walls around the US help much in the long run. We need to change the global capitalistic model. Radically and rapidly. Sustainability is the key issue. We simply all need to live within our means.
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03:41 PM on 10/14/2011
The mainstream media always has been conservative, and is even more so now than I ever recall it being, which means it is almost entirely conservative. When even the most "liberal" of all TV media, MSNBC, constantly has right-wing politicians and apologists regularly appearing on its shows and not calling them on the majority of their lies, this country is in huge trouble. I am just so amazed at the laziness and stupidity of conservative voters. How can even they not see what is so obvious. The people they have supported for years have lied to them all that time.
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William Gaskill
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02:48 PM on 10/14/2011
The Republicans are beginning to believe all the lies that they have created. They've convinced themselves that getting rid of all government and relying on the self-policing of the companies will yield more jobs, lower costs, and no change to the environment, workers rights, and everything else. In other words, they no nothing about history.
02:01 PM on 10/14/2011
Since a great many, if not most, of the EPAs actions are not based on fact, but on political agenda, and science can't be trusted since the GREAT GLOBAL WARMING hoax has been exposed, how are we to tell what matters are critical and which are politcal? The Watermelons have shot themselves in the foot, and we have been wounded by the ricochet.

Water is a toxic substance if it gets above your nose.
02:56 PM on 10/14/2011
"The Watermelon­s have shot themselves in the foot, and we have been wounded by the ricochet."

LOL. How old are you? Come back when you grow up.
03:17 PM on 10/14/2011
Was that supposed to be a response? How old are YOU?
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dcflush
The nickname is about poker, not politics
04:15 PM on 10/14/2011
You're absurd. Because the right-wing hacked ONE email that talks about needing to refine the global warming message -- from that you imagine a vast conspiracy?

The idea that you think and state out loud "science can't be trusted", shows your clear ignorance and lack of critical thinking ability. It's astounding the depths of the right-wing/conservative/tp/Republican ignorance and willful delusion.
05:06 PM on 10/14/2011
I have been around a while. I was actually alive and listening when I was warned of global cooling.

Coffee is bad for you.
Coffee is good for you.
Coffee is bad for you.
Eggs are bad for you.
Eggs are an excellent source of omega 3 oil. (the cholestorol warning on eggs was a politcal decision of the Johnson administration in an attempt to manipulate the price of eggs. Eggs are no higher in cholestorol than other meat protein)

Sorry, there was more than one email, and they discussed how they altered the data that supports AGW theory. Without data its just theory. I can theorize that the moon is inhabited by the lost tribes of Israel, it doesn't make it so.

Science can't be trusted when you insist on trusting theory, and alter data to support your theory.

The normal state of this planet for the last 1 or 2 hundred thousand years has been ice age. The only reason mankind has advanced as quickly as it has over the last 10 thousand years is mild climate. To suggest that 100 years of industrialization will wreck the climate is absurd. Especially since the Progressives have "managed" the economy to the point where we may soon not be able to afford to produce significant "greenhouse gasses". Maybe that is the plan?
01:51 PM on 10/14/2011
None as enslaved as those who believe falsely they are free.
01:32 PM on 10/14/2011
If asked, most liberals will condemn the presidency of Richard Nixon because of the Vietnam War and Watergate (and the anti-semitism revealed by the released tapes), but some will give him credit for the opening to the People's Republic of China. Well, he deserves credit for what the current GOP is determined to destroy: the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, and the EPA. It is likely that many of the newly elected Republican Representatives are too ignorant to know that these are the legacy of a Republican president.
01:49 PM on 10/14/2011
Clinton started free trade with China, NAFTA, banking deregulation, and work visas. And Obama just signed more trade deals designed to crush labor and therefore put more pressure in deregulation of the environment. These issues are connected. Globalization equals an end to environmental protection.
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mrose001
Only "We the People" can change Washington
01:26 PM on 10/14/2011
He who laughs last, laughs best! The American people will laugh last when they cast their votes in 2012. The GOP/Tea Party are throwing everything they can out for vote to delay any action that would help the economy just to make the President look bad. They have revisited the abortion issue, attacked the EPA and will continue their failed strategy. They have ignored the landslide of calls, letters and email to act as well as the "MOB" protester of OWS.

In their minds the GOP/Tea Party think the huge campaign money they have from corporate interest will allow them to continue to buy the elections with media adds. Well America has a message for you not this time. Since you won't work for our country, and you won't do what is right for the majority of Americans we will vote you out. Your strategy will fail because WE THE PEOPLE are not as dumb as you think we are. VOTE and make sure everyone you know votes, drive, baby sit, do what it takes to make a change in Washington on both sides of the isle and send the message WE THE PEOPLE will not tolerate you games any more. VOTE knowing the facts and the records.
01:50 PM on 10/14/2011
Hilarious. You still don't get it. It's game over. There is no choice.
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dcflush
The nickname is about poker, not politics
04:21 PM on 10/14/2011
And you are a sad cynical person that believes both sides are the same. I truly believe that the right-wing/conservative/tp/Republican base is ignorance and led by fear.

On the other hand, I believe people like you have given up hope, if you ever had it, and no longer know any honest, rational, thoughtful people in your lives. Thus, you have come to the conclusion that all people are liars and all people are corrupt and not a single person on earth or particularly in politics works for the improvement of America as a nation.

I on the other hand, know that Democrats work to make things better. They work within the system to affect change. And yes, this is a vast generalization, but it applies in very general terms.

As opposed to Republicans, who decided from the moment Obama took office, that they would work to slander him and make him fail at all costs, even if it hurt America in many ways.

You have bought into the Republican game. Republicans claim government doesn't work, and prove it every time they get elected.
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dcflush
The nickname is about poker, not politics
04:22 PM on 10/14/2011
And by claiming both sides are just as bad, you help the Republican agenda.
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wikwox
So there I was, playing the piano....
12:50 PM on 10/14/2011
House GOP members, particularly Tea Party affiliates, live in thier own tightly controlled world. Much like worker drones in a bee hive they do as thier told and have no real will of thier own. As such they rely on either the Tea Party or John Boehner for control. Only when thses two sources disagree as in the debt ceiling debacle is there strife. These bills will never be laws but they thrill the extremist wing of the party and are essentially harmless to the rich people and corporations that own the party. Sort of like a baby throwing things out of the playpen, hoping for attention.
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FirstGame72
The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
01:17 PM on 10/14/2011
The frustrating thing for me personally is the way almost all media (and i do mean all) report on the bad behavior (and bad voting records) of GOP candidates and office holders the story is framed that the GOP pols do things like attempting to gut the EPA or S.S. or health care or child safety laws as if they are doing all of these clearly unethical things AGAINST the the wishes of their constituents when in fact on many of these issues it's actually their GOP constituents PUSHING THEM to behave this badly.
There is an almost endless disconnect in the reporting on the relationship between GOP pols and GOP voters that ensures that decent, thinking people never get the full story on that simbiotic relationship
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Dragontech
Looking for a good micro-brew
01:17 PM on 10/15/2011
So would you explain WHY their constituents are pushing so hard for self-destructive legislation? Why would their voters DEMAND removal of child safety laws, the loss of clean water, clean air? The Republicans campaign on claims that these programs destroy jobs, which is a lie, and the lie is what the GOP voters buy into, THAT is what "pressures" the GOP to enact legislation hurtful to their people. The voters don't come in saying,"We have too much clean water and air." or "Our kids are too safe." They come in responding to fear-tactic ads by the GOP that tell them they will lose their jobs because the Left wants to protect the environment. Except they don't say it that way, its "They want to take your job away to protect an insignificant fly/fish/frog/owl that nature wouldn't even miss." Lies on top of lies to protect the corporations that sponsor teh GOP pols.
11:49 AM on 10/14/2011
Carl, I notice you try to make this into a partisan issue. As if Democrats are different. If you wonder why things are going so badly, and certain to get much worse, it's partly because of your failed leadership. Both parties support globalization and there is no possible way to protect the environment under free trade. The whole point of free trade is to take away your power and to out all power in the hands of a few multinational corporations and a few undemocratically elected international government agencies like the UN. This is how our democracy and our environment die.

Yet like a fool you keep living in the past thinking Democrats are the answer. You keep thinking there are two distinct parties. Obama just signed another set of free trade deals. Hello?! And he wants amnesty for all illegals. Hello!? As our labor market continues to be flooded, as unemployment continues to run high, as wages fall and prices rise...do you think ANYONE will be in the mood to hear your little talk about the environment? No. They will want jobs and corporations will promise them jobs in exchange for more deregulation. And the US government plays along with deficit spending to create the illusion it's all working.

We have been playing this losing game for 30 years. Are you ready to admit you have failed? Are you ready to admit both parties are owned? Are you ready to make hard choices, stand up for Americans, and the
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Bradlinsky
Concept Other Than Self
01:36 PM on 10/14/2011
I wish you post hadn't been cut off. Anyway, I'm starting to get the feeling that I'm in a pod with my life energy being sucked out for use as a monumental battery. Hmm, that sounded really good, maybe I should make a movie about it ...
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blackwind
Relax, nothing is under control
02:42 PM on 10/15/2011
This is a partisan issue.
The Republicans are attempting to destroy environmental protections, and the Democrats aren't.
Party-line votes are a sure sign an issue is partisan.
10:36 AM on 10/14/2011
Forget "Republicans for Voldemort". They gone right past that to "Republicans for Sauron". Goodbye Shire. Hello Mordor!