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Inside The World Of Wedding Vendors: What They Don't Want You To Know

Posted: 08/18/2012 1:47 pm

We've heard about Bridezillas having tantrums, have seen moms and brides battle it out until she says "Yes to the Dress", and watched fairytales happen that makes us glare at our significant other and think, "Why didn't you do that?"

There's no shortage of in-your-face wedding planning on TV right now, but I was curious: What goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about? Are there... shall I say it... scandalous practices in the wedding industry? What happens behind closed doors?

Before you get up in arms, let me preface this by saying these stories are the exception to the rule! In most cases your vendors are honest people who want to give you the wedding of your dreams.

Kickbacks

There's nothing wrong with vendors giving each other a thank-you for sending a job their way. However there are stories of wedding "bullies" that make you raise an eyebrow.

When the recession hit big about three years ago, wedding planners felt it -- hard. Some vendors, especially caterers, told me that wedding planners would (and still do) demand either a percentage or certain dollar amount from each plate sold to a couple. So what does this mean for you, the bride or groom? Take your catering service, for example: Imagine you are paying $40 a plate. Unbeknownst to you, the caterer (in order to book the job) now has to pay the referrer $8 a plate, leaving you with a plate that's actually only worth $32. It's unfair to you and bad for the caterer, who has to sacrifice quality in order to get work.

The top wedding planners suggest that you do not book your vendors through your planner, and instead pay the vendor directly. You will have an easier time negotiating a price with your vendors if they don't have to pay a commission to someone else.

There are also networks of vendors out there that only refer each other, and then get paid to do so. This system is not beneficial for clients: Imagine you want a gorgeous, lavish wedding using over-the-top florals and film noir-style photos, but you are being referred to vendors (within a network) who don't specialize in those things. You will end up paying over the market value for the service, since the referral source is getting a kickback, and you won't get the florals or photos you really wanted.

As one planner told me, "A referral should be 'paid back' with other referrals."

I couldn't agree more!

Tips

The catering staff works really hard busting their tails all night to make the wedding happen, and many times the bride and groom are thoughtful enough to leave a good tip for the staff. In fact, many catering companies make tipping mandatory. But catering directors don't always give staff their fair share.

As one source told me, "Many caterers have service and gratuity charges on their contracts, where you usually pay anywhere from $500-$1000+ extra for 'gratuity'. In one instance a catering director advised the bride that this fee was to make sure the staff was tipped, and I know from experience not one server saw a dime of that money."

After seeing this happen repeatedly, a former employee stated, "I've been around a lot of wedding vendors and I know no one is immune to it, even some of the big companies do it -- fool their brides with the 'gratuity' section or flat out keep the extra that [a bride] writes on the bill. I think it's a secret that brides and industry professionals should be aware of so that they aren't taken advantage of and so that the girl working her way through college washing dishes until 3 a.m. gets that boost she needs."

Another planner told me about two companies in which the owner or director took the tips for themselves. They tell their brides now, "If you're going to tip your staff, have individual portions ready to give to each person."

Substitutions

Perhaps the most shocking of these practices is the practice of "substitutions"; I was stunned to hear about it.

While doing research for this article, I heard stories from employees of catering halls who saw company owners substitute meats after promising the finest cut, or covered up lesser quality meats with sauces. One ex-employee told me that they would substitute pork for veal when the client paid for veal. They told me that, "most of the time guests can't even tell the difference. This can be very offensive to the guest especially if they don't eat pork, which many don't for religious or health reasons."

Other ex-employees told me that many halls sell top shelf liquor packages, but on the day of the wedding serve cheap liquor instead. They switch the bottles, or they are hidden behind the bar, so that when a guest orders a mixed drink, they are given the well substitute instead of expensive top shelf, saving the hall a lot of money.

Have you heard of any scandalous wedding industry practices? Share them in the comments.

A special thanks to my industry eyes and ears: Anna Naphtali Photography, Elegant Affairs, G.E. Mesana Photography, No Worries Event Planning, Good Gracious!

Carly Cylinder is the visionary behind the Los Angeles florist Flour LA. Follow @flourgal and stay connected on Facebook.

 

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We've heard about Bridezillas having tantrums, have seen moms and brides battle it out until she says "Yes to the Dress", and watched fairytales happen that makes us glare at our significant other and...
We've heard about Bridezillas having tantrums, have seen moms and brides battle it out until she says "Yes to the Dress", and watched fairytales happen that makes us glare at our significant other and...
 
 
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10:58 AM on 08/26/2012
How about "bait and switch"? Here the client has booked a videographer, and a day or two - or even day OF wedding, the company calls and lets the client know the videographer had "a personal crisis"
(translate: was offered a higher paying last minute gig) or is ill and someone, unknown to the couple ,is being sent instead.
Please trust only well-reputed vendors (esp. videographers!) - they are not likely to be cheap but they will deliver what they promised.
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05:42 PM on 08/23/2012
Wedding planners are a luxury borne by people who can least afford it -- newly-weds. Have a simple civil or religious ceremony. The mother of the bride may whine about it . So be it.
04:13 PM on 08/23/2012
I have read over some of the comments that have been posted and I understand some of the point of views that have been made. I myself am a wedding planner and I have been in the business since 1996. Needless to say that I have heard of somethings that have taking place in the industry that I do not like. I myself do have a preferred vendors list, but my clients do not have to go with those vendors. I do not require any of the vendors to give me a kickback as I do not give them a kickback for me receiving a referred clients.For me as well as some of the other vendors word of mouth is the best advertisement and this is way I have a preferred list of vendors. I have worked with my vendors and I trust them. If I am referred to a client from another vendor it is because of my knowledge and talent not for money. I would say to anyone who is getting married watch out for the one stop shops, the fly by night vendors,etc... Remember anyone can have a wedding, but you need the right planner to help you make the right decision for your big day. It is sad to say that some vendors got into the business for the wrong reason. So talk with a few wedding planners and see what information you gather from them concerning their business/vendors, then make your decision.
04:23 PM on 08/22/2012
I should point out that the "Tips" items is actually a crime punishable by civil fines and potentially jail time for repeat offenders.

The FLSA requires that tips be paid to the waitstaff for any representations of Tips or gratuity.

If you know of vendors that take Tips from their staff or misrepresent tips (even if you are a waiter/waitress) you should report these vendors to the FLSA or DOL depending on your state.

Make no mistake, this is a crime. Do no re-tip, report the criminal.
08:45 AM on 08/22/2012
I used to work as a banquet server at weddings and we would never get the tips, so I know for a fact that that story is true. The wedding hall would keep the gratuity.
04:22 PM on 08/21/2012
Courthouse wedding!!! Whoop whoop!!
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SionShankel
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10:50 PM on 08/20/2012
Go to city hall. Spend money on you home or college debt. Party like this only if you have money to born and relatives and friends to torture forcing them to spend money and vacation days on your party.
03:08 PM on 08/20/2012
To each their own. The should u shouldn't you spend money on weddings debate will live forever. I've been to a lot of weddings in a supposed recession with top shelf open bars and bands that cost a year college tuition where people im sure willingly get screwed over by....and i feel bad for the dad fakely smiling in the corner that this is the best use of his hard earned money. Or the dad youve never seen drunk until his daughters reception. The best wedding I went to was my brother and his wife's wedding that was a few hundred thousand all said and done...but they certainly have the money and more so you didn't ever feel bad about the three quarters full vodka and tonic they swipe off the table and charge you for when u go dance. My theory is spend what people know you can afford and the amount of fun had will feel equivalent.
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UKNY
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02:53 PM on 08/20/2012
One of my best friends is getting married to his boyfriend next year - the two are severely strapped for cash, are in the midst of paying off student loans and yet insist on continuing to stress about their big sure-to-be very expensive wedding. It makes me so sad that peer pressure inflates expectations of what a 'dream wedding' should look like.

As a young girl I was never like my friends who grew up deciding what dress they would wear to their perfect sparkly princess weddings - and today at 30something I would sooner get 20 of our closes friends together at a restaurant to celebrate the courthouse wedding my boyfriend and I would have. And then the two of us would jet off somewhere remote and beachy for a week of bliss.
02:33 PM on 09/14/2012
Today I am a wedding photographer. Almost 8 years ago, I was finishing my undergrad degree and my soon-to-be husband was a medical resident. When we started planning a big wedding, we said 'forget it.' We went with a small wedding, inviting only immediate family and holding a reception at the restaurant where we had our first date. My off-the-rack dress cost less than the bridesmaids dress I wore to my sister's wedding.

Now? We are very happy that we did not borrow the $50,000+ it would have cost to throw a big wedding for all the people we felt obligated to invite, and to treat them the way we thought they should be treated for making the trip. Every few years we play with the idea of doing the big "wedding" we didn't do back then, and then we think about what else we could do with that kind of money. Suffice to say, hasn't happened.

My only regret (I swear!!) is that we didn't hire a pro photog for a few hours. Our designated shooter was good with a camera, but it's not the same as having someone who can direct posing, set up lighting, etc.

My ability to do what I love professionally depends on people being willing to spend a lot of money on their wedding day, but I always hope that they are doing so because it is important to them and not because of other people's expectations.
02:27 PM on 08/20/2012
"Substitutions" should be renamed "fraud." And I believe -- correct me if I'm wrong -- but in California it's illegal for a business owner to keep tips. They have to, by law, be given to employees.
04:25 PM on 08/22/2012
As I've mentioned elsewhere, this is a national law governmend by the FLSA and DOL.

If you know of any vendors performing this practice report them to the DOL.

There are civil fines, including payment of tips as required, and potentially jail time for repeat offenders.
12:57 PM on 08/20/2012
Here's a thought---do whatever you want. I know 2 brides who just got married ....1 spent $30,000 and the other had an at-home wedding for $1500....both are sweet as can be and the weddings were great. The girl with the money is not "evil" or superficial because she wanted to celebrate her big day in a big way. Tthe girl who was "frugal" is not more inclined to stay married because she spent less nor did she feel inferior because she did not spend much. It all comes down to what makes each couple feel "right" about the day
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YupIndeed
We are all made of star stuff.
12:55 PM on 08/20/2012
Tip: when booking a venue for your wedding reception - don't tell the venue it's for a wedding. Doing so will jack the price up 40%. Just tell them it's for a party.
07:38 PM on 08/20/2012
Yeah, that's an old tip, but that won't work out, long-term. Like, on the day of the wedding.
12:03 AM on 08/21/2012
You can also get you event canceled for breech of contract if they find out you lied and it is a wedding. Not worth it IMHO.
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MonkeyDaddy
Agent of Evolution
12:53 PM on 08/20/2012
Two words: Court House.
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Woodn88s
funiture maker,musician,left leaning middle
12:17 PM on 08/20/2012
here's another:
Hire your own band. Most vendors will supply you with a band, they'll charge you $1500 or more for the band , and they'll pay the band $400 and pocket the rest.
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Debbe Lewis
Baby, I was born this way!
11:55 AM on 08/20/2012
For my first marriage, we went to the justice-of-the-peace with 2 witnesses. For the second, we got married at home. I have NEVER seen the sense of spending the ridiculous amounts of $$ on a wedding, when it could be so much more sensibly used to buy and/or furnish a home. Guess I lack the "princess bride" gene...
03:13 PM on 08/20/2012
It all stems from this idea that having a lavish wedding shows that you have money (and therefore are better). Traditionally a bride's family paid for the wedding (something I don't think I'll see happen for me so when its my turn to marry I don't plan on a cent from my rents) and I bet that spending lavishly was a way to show that the bride came from a good enough family. I don't think that holds up nowadays; each bride and groom needs to do what they want. My brother is getting married at the courthouse and will have a small reception afterwards. No muss, no fuss. Personally, I want a destination wedding; my current boyfriend (who it's pretty well known we'll tie the knot) grew up in Africa and he wants to get married there. Simple wedding with those who choose to attend, simple dinner afterwards and stay to honeymoon. The expense will mostly be getting there!
07:53 PM on 10/10/2012
Most if not all, who have the $$$$ to spends on a wedding, have a house purchased already or enough to get one after the wedding. It's not about being a "princess". It's their day, their money, let them be happy with it.