It Takes One Elitist (i.e. Bill Clinton) to Recognize Another

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Posted April 15, 2008 | 08:34 AM (EST)



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Jennifer Bucy, 36, whom Wall Street Journal reporters identified as an Obama supporter, was recently quoted as saying that she had gone to hear Bill Clinton speak the week before in Clinton, Indiana. The former president was wearing what Bucy described as looking like snakeskin boots. "They weren't working boots," she said.

I was struck by the "snakeskin boots" anecdote that closed Amy Chozick and Nick Timuraos's WSJ piece. They were covering, like almost every other political reporter, Obama's rift -- on April 6, to a mostly well-heeled group of San Franciscans at a fundraiser in Pacific Heights -- about blue-collar Pennsylvanians being bitter over disappearing jobs and prone to clinging as a crutch to religion, guns and prejudices.

The AP writer Ron Fournier who goes way back with Clinton -- he covered Governor Clinton for the Arkansas Democrat and then moved to the AP where he covered the Clinton White House, reported in 1996 that Clinton "used to buy his shoes at a discount self-serve store in Arkansas -- one black pair, one brown pair. 'That's all anyone needs,' he'd say." A far cry from snakeskin.

Al Gore was belittled for hiring writer Naomi Wolf to give him wardrobe advice -- which colors made him appear more alpha male? -- and John Kerry took flack for his expensive bicycle and the accompanying cycling outfit, not to mention his wind surfing ensemble.

Bill Clinton somehow manages to pull off an image of a regular guy, even though he wears more money on his back (in his suits, shirts) and on his wrists (in the form of mechanical watches that cost almost as much as a working man's house) than did either of the failed presidential candidates. Campaigning in Pennsylvania last weekend, Bill played the common man card, repeating in two separate venues -- a high school and a middle school -- that people had told him pretty much the same thing; they weren't bitter, just proud and wanted a different direction for the country.

While writing Clinton in Exile: A President Out of the White House, my look at Bill Clinton's post-presidency, I interviewed Michael Kobold, a young, late 20s German watchmaker whose company is headquartered in Pittsburgh. Kobold, who met Clinton in 2004, is a huge admirer of the former president -- both of his soaring style and leadership abilities.

Anyone who follows Bill Clinton saw a seismic change from his days as Arkansas governor and his early years as president. In those years he wore a battery-operated Timex, a savvy political move because Timex had extensive operations in Arkansas and was a major local employer, and-- best of all -- was known for making the first watches affordable to the working man. "He was infamous for wearing a cheap plastic Timex Ironman," says Michael Kobold.

Even while he was still president, before he started to earn millions on speeches and potentially conflict-of-interest laden consulting contracts (recently released tax returns showed $109 million raked in over the last seven years), Bill Clinton piece by piece acquired a personal style that had nothing in common with his roots or with the lives of ordinary Americans. .

Today Clinton wears "high-end mechanical watches," says Kobold, "...very exclusive" -- Rolex, Patek Philippe, Cartier, Audemars Piguet. At least one of his watches -- he has some 50 in his collection -- is said to be worth more than $100,000.

Clinton and Kobold clicked on another level. Kobold makes watches for Jim Gandolfini (aka Tony Soprano), who has become a close friend and is also a friend of the former president's. Clinton has three watches courtesy of Kobold, all on loan (i.e. he didn't have to pay for them but is supposed to return them) and one that was a gift from Gandolfini. For Michael Kobold, eating the cost is well worth it because Clinton gives his watches plenty of "wrist time." He sported one on the cover of Ladies Home Journal, and he also wore one that was worth close to $4,000 when he appeared on Larry King Live.

(Kobold watches, "their components made and assembled in factories in Switzerland and Germany," retail for between $3.200 and $25,000. They appeal to a certain kind of armchair adventurer -- George W. Bush owns one -- but also to the real thing. According to Kobold's advertising they're the preferred "wrist instruments" of Polar explorers, NASA test pilots, CIA agents, SWAT teams.)

Kobold says that he would never use the "Dear Mike" notes he receives regularly from the former president to advertise, but the Ladies Home Journal photographer sent Kobold a blowup of Clinton wearing his watch, and Kobold has it in his office and people notice and say, "Wow, Bill Clinton's wearing the watch."

George H.W. Bush, the ultimate WASP, was ribbed for wearing watches with cheap striped bands -- not Bill Clinton's style -- or the style of the current president who ordered a Kobold in 2001, paid for it, and that was that.

At one point in the Kerry campaign, the candidate who was lampooned by Rush Limbaugh as the "French-looking John Kerry" had to give up his Hermes ties. He began to wear American-made ties, some from Vineyard Vines, a company founded on Martha's Vineyard. That "the Vineyard" reeks of elitism and the clothes reek prep school seemed not to matter because the ties were made in America. Bill Clinton also loves neckties. One of his Chicago supporters, Mike Cherry, who slept in the Lincoln bedroom, got into the habit of handing a tie to the president every time he saw him -- most of the ties hand-made and Italian.

Clinton is known to be very vain about his hands, and Kobold pronounces that vanity justified. They are "not a farmer's hands, refined looking" and tipped by manicured nails. The late Eppie Lederer (aka Ann Landers) used to comment on Clinton's "beautiful digits."

No one has reported which watch the former president sported when he traveled in Pennsylvania bashing Obama as an out-of-touch elitist. But it's worth betting the week's food budget on one thing: it wasn't a Timex.

 
 

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- Chris7982 See Profile I'm a Fan of Chris7982

He is lucy to have made that kind of money to sport watches worth 100k when people do not make that kind in a yr to feed a family of 6.....only the clintons can pull that off and still claim to relate to the poor...they lie convincingly....that is dangerous!!!!! They have no shame left......she wants the nomination so badly for the republicans to slaughter her with slime again ......going on fox regularly and appearing with rush limbaugh will not help the Clintons from the folks who despice them for smearing the WH!!!!! How can democrats forget so fAST....SHE GOES AROUND TALKING ABOUT VALUES...SOME VALUES THOSE ARE TO HAVE YOUR HUSBAND HAVING AFFAIRS!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 AM on 04/20/2008
- RobertAndropolis See Profile I'm a Fan of RobertAndropolis

Picture for a moment Bill Clinton in the Alec Baldwin role addressing Ed Harris at the opening of "Glengarry Glen Ross": "You see this watch? (Clinton takes off his 18 carat gold Patek Philipe watch and places it on Harris's desk). You see this watch? That watch costs more than your car. I made nine hundred seventy thousand dollars last year how much did you make? You see pal, that's who I am. And you're nothing. Nice guy? I don't give a shit. Good father? Fuck you - go home and play with your kids."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 04/16/2008
- Unless See Profile I'm a Fan of Unless

I also seem to recall hearing that it's not very often that he actually arrives anywhere on time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 PM on 04/16/2008
- northeast73 See Profile I'm a Fan of northeast73

HELLLOOO???? Here is a lesson in elitism for you and all the Obama supporters.

HAVING MONEY IS NOT WHAT MAKES ONE ELITIST.....blaming "bitter bigoted voters" for your failure to win a state IS elitism.

Inferring that working people are "less smart" than you, more racist than you IS ELITIST.


There are elitists who make 85,000 per year, and decent people who make 10,000,000.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 04/16/2008
- missjabez See Profile I'm a Fan of missjabez

I'm not surprised;Clinton's fondness for pricey gadgets and high fashion goes hand in hand with his hypocrisy. Too bad he can't get his wife interested in fashion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:59 AM on 04/16/2008
- normathumb See Profile I'm a Fan of normathumb

glad, not clad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 AM on 04/16/2008
- normathumb See Profile I'm a Fan of normathumb

I am clad that people who bring home millions of dollars a year can go and drop $25,000 on a watch. I hope he gets $400 haircuts, too. I hope that watch keeps time as good as a Timex. Rich people need to share the wealth. None of them are really worth that kind of cash. They are lucky, indeed, and should spread it around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 AM on 04/16/2008
- FogCityJohn See Profile I'm a Fan of FogCityJohn

And let's not forget Hillary the elitist. Here she is condescending (according to the Repubs) to women who "stay at home and bake cookies."

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rulSnAM6gmM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:20 AM on 04/16/2008
- northeast73 See Profile I'm a Fan of northeast73

LOL,,,, the very comments that made democrats love her, you seem to think are on par with Obama's snotrag remarks....nice try loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 04/16/2008
- ljsfolly See Profile I'm a Fan of ljsfolly

Yes Bill Clinton is a regular guy that has the watches and boots that speak to his and hers banks accounts. Nice to know that the finest things money can buy is at the expense of the companies and jobs he is working on sending overseas A La NAFTA. Burkle gave him millions for showing his face that is how big the deals were. I am sure the millions Mark Penn has made off Hillary has helped him some but he still looks like a cheap man in an expensive suit. But Bill has Columbia the country to mine now to have companies from the US open up shop and the jobs like the NAFTA jobs before them will just put more people out of their homes and jobs. He hasn't cared about those losing the jobs or anything as one can look at the bank account and know his morals are still where they were before. Hillary is just getting her experience like she did before by sleeping with Bill. If she were to win I can only guess the shell of a country she and Bill would leave us with. She is a republican like bush and would not change a thing. She lies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 04/16/2008
- unsolved999 See Profile I'm a Fan of unsolved999

There are a number of narratives you can construct regarding the Clinton's. Are they the nouveau riche? Loud, obnoxious and arrogant in their new found wealth? They are certainly not elite and resentful that the old rich look down on them. They just want to eat their pickled pigs feet and stick their feet on the table while they swiging the most expensive booze they can put their hands on while shooting cockaroaches on the walls. Yeeeee Haaaaaa!

Are they sellouts? Did Bill trade his years in the White House for pure monetary gain? Including lobbying for foreign governments and corporations? Earning a lifestyle wherein he had nothing but pure profit with all of his expenses fully paid. Including arguing for "free" trade? I'm sure Hillary was the complaining the whole time about how all this making of money was horrible.

Or are they the elitists? Part of the corporate meritocracy? Feted by the rich and famous? Their every whim full satisfied? Their daughter favored with a high paying job at a hedge fund by a friend? Feeling that they can do and say whatever they want and no one will question them? Because they are the most... elite... people... in... the... world. They... are... the... CLINTONS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 04/16/2008
- RealistDem See Profile I'm a Fan of RealistDem

Having the superdelegates overturn the will of the people would be the ulitmate in elitism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 04/15/2008
- sjl106 See Profile I'm a Fan of sjl106

It is obvious the obamabots and media are trying to spin "elitism" as only defined to monetary value, sorry it is a mindset that one knows and are holier than though in that belief. Obama is an ARROGANT SNOT ELITIST, and maybe worse, his comments to why he can't win PA that small towners are bitter and cling to guns, god, and bigotry are akin to his "a typical white person."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 04/15/2008
- howard6117 See Profile I'm a Fan of howard6117

I think the left's spin on Obama has expanded the word "elitism" far beyond monetary value. In fact, it was John Stewart who last night equated elitism w/ intelligence, extradorinary intelligence not fancy clothes or snobbery. Elitism is a good word, snobbery is not. Hillary and the press need a dictionary.
Anti intellectualism has been around as long as I can remember going back to Adali Stevenson. Why America would rather have a president with whom they could share a beer and shot rather than elect someone who can claim and demonstrate exemplary (ie. ELITE) intelligence is beyond me.

Fensenthal points out the hypocrisy of this Clinton team. It is they that have become the elite (read materialistic snobs). It has been the repubican play book to be the offender and then accuse your opponent of that behavior, or to call something the opposite of what it is. Look beyond what Felsenthal points out and look at the designer clothes Chelsea wears at every event and the expression 'the pot calling the kettle black' comes to mind.

If Obama wins the presidency and leaves the white house w/ more expensive taste, then at that time in the unforseeable future he might deserve the term elitist snob, however, Obams's bio to date tells me he's much more like a smarter neighbor growing up than either the Clintons, Bushes or McCains.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 04/15/2008
- northeast73 See Profile I'm a Fan of northeast73

OK fine, SNOB might be a better word.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 04/16/2008
- deb813 See Profile I'm a Fan of deb813

From your post as a typical white person one can tell that you are not voting for Obama because he is a typical black person and if that was not what you were trying to communicate you should choose your words more carefully.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 04/15/2008
- jcharliemiller See Profile I'm a Fan of jcharliemiller

I think that anyone that reads what you have to say, should seriously consider what your profile says first. You are either a racist, a tool, or some one's pawn. No one could be this ill-informed and manage to get through the day.
By your comments one can only assume that you are... well, anyone that reads your past comments will know exactly what you are. Good luck being you.
Go Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 04/15/2008
- PioneerKing See Profile I'm a Fan of PioneerKing

Gee did the watches that were never paid for get declared on the Clinton's taxes?
Or did Kobold simply write the loss off. Seems like the taxpayers are getting screwed by the Clintons or the watch company.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 04/15/2008
- Hullaballoo See Profile I'm a Fan of Hullaballoo

I was ensconsed in college and ignorance in the 90's and defended the Clintons until this campaign began and my eyes were opened. But my Dad called it right from the beginning: Bill Clinton entered office as a blue-dog Democrat, and left office a Republican. His wife too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 04/15/2008
- Arawak See Profile I'm a Fan of Arawak

The Clintonian irony is legion. Look at the wardrobes. Who's talkin' trash? Pinoaklio and Bubba have a lot of coin and they love to spend their coin on REALLY nice things. Just makes them human, but definitely not common. Patek and Bubba? Who da thunk it! Pass me the Crown Royal and a Walther PPK!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 04/15/2008
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