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Carol Muske-Dukes

Carol Muske-Dukes

Posted: September 15, 2010 11:27 AM

Co-written by Cate Marvin and Carol Muske-Dukes (Cate Marvin - Poet and Assoc. Prof., College of Staten Island and Co-Director, VIDA)

The recent attention given to what can only be described as an outburst by two very talented lady writers, Jodi Picoult and Jennifer Weiner respectively, with regard to the glowing review of Jonathan Franzen's Freedom in the New York Times Book Review (a book we're both sure to add to our Christmas shopping lists) admittedly made us uncomfortable.

Picoult and Weiner claimed, via respective tweets, as you no doubt already know, that the New York Times Book Review predominantly reviews white male writers. Media outrage ensued.

As female writers, we're not really accustomed to receiving this kind of attention. We'd only just recovered from a bout of nerves caused by Anis Shivani's recent "Top 15" list published on The Huffington Post, in which we were, for the first time, prominently represented... and what a relief it was to discover he'd placed us among the "Most Overrated Writers"!

As such, we've been deeply grateful to be provided with the term "chick lit": we can either try to fit our work into this category; or, if we have a particularly masochistic bent, us more literary gals can let chick-lit make us feel like the ugliest girl in the ninth grade. With braces. Why be "literary" when you can wear the textual equivalent of a padded bra? Why be so serious? It's just so... off-putting.

Yes, some of us write books. Well, a lot of us have done so, and for that we're sorry. We're sorry for all that time we spent writing our books (which aren't any good, we admit), when we could have been beautifying gardens, cooking exquisite dinners, and raising our offspring.

Sisters, let's be honest. We write books. But our "books" are not, if you look at all the prizes awarded to our better-halves and the fact that so many more works by men are reviewed in major journals... well, they aren't what the establishment deems noteworthy. Sisters, we're sorry to be the bearers of bad news, but we're also sure you saw it coming. As the somewhat lackluster novelist Flannery O'Connor (who was also a woman!) reminded us, "The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." Since when were you encouraged to write your novel? Your book of poems? Your memoir? (Being encouraged by other women writers doesn't count.)

As far as "artistic" pursuits, there is always needlepoint (an exacting task, to be sure) and knitting, and many other crafts that are more appropriate outlets for our energy and time. Many women in the past have found solace in keeping a private journal.

Please know that these are only recommendations. Indeed, we hope that you'll forgive us for imploring you to consider the various limitations of literature (if we can call it that) written by women (if, in fact, you ever considered the topic in the first place).

In fact, we regret having ever made an imposition upon your time by bringing up this topic in the first place. We hope you'll forgive us.

Sorry,

Cate Marvin & Carol Muske-Dukes

 
 
 
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12:18 AM on 09/25/2010
I meant to write "attempting humor." Embarrassing. What I get for fiddling with social media after the midnight hour.
12:16 AM on 09/25/2010
Oh, boo-hoo. I'll readily agree that patriarchy still reigns and gender equality is yet more dream than reality, but all this bogus special pleading is no help to the cause. For example, I assume you're attempting when you call Flannery O'Connor a "somewhat lackluster novelist," as I can't believe you'd actually harbor such a wrong-headed literary opinion. But she is the very author to repudiate your sob story: First, she has a significant short-story prize named in her honor; second, her Complete Stories was named the best book to win the National Book Award in the first 60 years of the prize. Women do sometimes get reviewed and win prizes. Men sometimes do write worthwhile books.
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04:54 PM on 10/01/2010
I agree with Chauncey's sentiment. Gender inequality is a huge concern in the literary world, but this "letter of apology" just comes off as passive-aggressive, when I'm sure the authors were going for irony.
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12:02 PM on 09/20/2010
Sorry, but there is such as thing as "chick lit," and I, speaking as a woman, don't care for it, though I read good (though generally not literary) fiction, as well as non-fiction, by both men and women.
12:25 AM on 09/16/2010
Women's literature (not!). What a waste of my reading time!

Seriously, though, why is there still a need to demand/assert/claim respect for women writers in the year 2010? It's tiring. And too familiar. It makes me feel like it's 1968.
09:23 AM on 09/16/2010
It is tiring and familiar, just like the sexism that's still present in our society and globally. We still have plenty of sexism, racism, and classism, and wishing it weren't so won't make it go away any more than beating up on the people who make these persistent problems visible to all.
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10:05 AM on 09/16/2010
thank you. F&F.
08:19 PM on 09/15/2010
I don't understand some commenters' admonishments that no one has a right or reason to point out prejudice where they see it. Women didn't get equal rights on paper because no one spoke up, and they certainly won't get equal rights and consideration in practice if no one speaks out against ongoing, sexist practices.

Also, the writers who wrote this article were writing, obviously, so your admonishments that they spend their time writing instead of writing is silly, and fairly hypocritical from people bothering to post comments.
10:17 AM on 09/16/2010
I'm not saying don't point them out -- scream them from the highest mountaintop, if you'd like, and see how many people take notice. Whatever floats your boat. But this isn't 1968, and the post above -- while cleverly written -- isn't going to do a darn thing in reality when it comes to moving forward on this issue.

You know what will? Good writing.
Someone once asked Marion Zimmer Bradley, an early female pioneer in the sf/f market, why only the absolute best female writers got published while so many lesser-talented men got published. She looked at the person and said, more or less, "are you honestly making an argument for mediocrity?"

Something to think about.
10:33 AM on 09/16/2010
It's funny you say it won't do a damn thing since it's all over the news and is now a national debate and issue being discussed in literary circles and the publishing world. There are plenty of women producing good writing and not getting nearly the same exposure or accolades as their male peers. A discussion is needed, which is what this article is for. You seem to think that women aren't writing as well as men, and that's a sorry position to hold.
10:56 AM on 09/16/2010
How exactly do you believe "good writing" is determined culturally? Do you think it sits up in a golden file cabinet in heaven and just falls down from the sky to land in bookstores? Do you think maybe certain people--critics, teachers, etc., have something to do with this? Do you think people's early ingrained reading habits and preferences might have some influence on the issue? Do you wonder why women read fluidly across gender starting as very little girls and most often boys don't? Or is it simply that women are genetically less talented than men? Is that your idea?

You seem too smart to actually believe what you're saying. What's your real issue here? Seriously, I see people making comments similar to yours and wonder why you need the issue to be so uncomplicated? Why the lack of complexity when you are clearly capable of thinking such things through? What's at stake for you here?
03:23 PM on 09/15/2010
The big question is why y'all are so worried what the NYTRB says about . . . anything? Sure, it can make a career, but it also can break a career. But does it really contribute to sales?

The publishing world has its head in the sand about new media, and no place is that sand deeper than the NYTRB. When a good writer can make a royalty of 90% on lulu.com and reach virtually everyone on the planet in several formats, just what do you "need" the big publishers for anyway? Validation? Legitimazation? Big advances?

In the modern age good writers, male or female, will sell based on their own merits, not what the critics say. This thing you call "literature" is as archaic as speakeasies and spats. If you're really that good, save the irony and sarcasm in this screed for your work, quit whining, and write something people want to read. Or don't want to read. Since when do you need permission, validation or legitimacy? Write good books and people will buy them. Write bad books and slightly less people will buy them. But venting your spleen on the NYTRB is petty, whiney, bitter behavior, regardless of your gender. Don't you believe enough in your work to see it stand or fall on its own?

One has to wonder . . .
02:55 AM on 09/17/2010
Women writers are concerned about what the gatekeepers of literary values are saying about our books because it translates to support of our work. When the majority of the awards and accolades are going to male writers, that also means the majority of the funding is going to male writers. Funding equals time to write and develop one's craft.

"Write good books and people will buy them?" Really? I've got a long list of beautifully accomplished books in my library that have gone or will go out of print because they didn't get enough critical backing to spotlight them. To say that literature sells according to its merits is pretty short-sighted. Literature doesn't sell according to its merits, it sells according to its hype, its publicity, and to the value the culture places on it.

It's one thing for us to believe in our work. We do, or we wouldn't be engaged in this conversation in the first place. It's another thing entirely to trust that the literary establishment is behind us when the numbers are making clear that it's not.
03:03 PM on 09/15/2010
I write like a girl.
03:25 PM on 09/15/2010
I write like someone who wants to have their stuff read by people who like to read. My gender rarely enters into it, considering I write under pseudonyms of both genders. But I can write like a girl at need, as well.

The question is, can most people write like writers?
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06:03 PM on 09/15/2010
Yes, why genderize everything? Agree, can most people write well? Lighten up and write.
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12:50 PM on 09/15/2010
It's hard to get anything done in the publishing word. It seems like many doors shut in your face before they ever really open. Perhaps, that is the reason so many people try out other forms of publishing. It's hard to get respect and a chance to have your work looked at. I tried to find an agent with my first novel which I broke down into smaller stories. I'm now published with my children's book and I still don't have an agent. I don't know what my future in writing will be, but I know one thing. Children now have The Fairies Of Tythian in their homes, and that is all that counts. If I'm lucky people will like my work and that will be my payment enough. I think the one thing that keeps me trying is the vision of my mother. My mother died a year before I started writing. I would talk to her five times a day, and when my husband went to Iraq I knew she would be there. She was 57, and I was in Germany with my two kids. I didn't know how I could go one more day, week, month, year, and so many more without her being near. I started writing because the real world hurt so bad. She came to me in a dream about my book. She told me to finish it, or it would never be on Amazon. I knew she approved, so I write.
07:39 AM on 09/15/2010
The real offense should be when the term "chick lit" is misapplied. For instance, Jane Austen's books are largely about women resolving their feelings about relationships, but Austen did not write "chick lit." Both Dostoevsky and Scott Turow write about the legal system, but their work is hardly comparable, nor would I compare Tom Clancy to Tolstoy because they use international conflict as a theme in their work. Some novels are merely entertaining crap and deserve to be reviewed that way, regardless of the gender of their writers. And, just as Tom Clancy writes "paint by number" novels, so, too, there are women writing "paint by number" novels about relationships and family conflict.

Real equality comes (aside from when you stop whining) when you sit down and make a serious attempt to differentiate among Alison Lurie and Joyce Carol Oates and Jodi Picoult. And if you insist they are all the same, and that each deserves the same consideration as the others, you are not being serious.
11:12 PM on 09/15/2010
Where did you get the idea that the writers here weren't make literary distinctions? The issue is that women across all genres receive vastly fewer prizes, awards, review coverage, etc, than their male counterparts. The numbers are coming in to support this fact all over the media everyday. It's not whining to point this out. But isn't that easy to say? The weakest argument in that it is no argument at all. Women will stop whining when something close to equality is achieved. Women will stop whining when we start making the same amount as men for the same amount of work. I look forward to that day.

Chick lit is a sub issue--the larger issue is that the literary establishment's quite subjective biases are shaping how and what we as a nation read and determine what we value most as literary.
10:23 AM on 09/16/2010
The "literary establishment" is coughing up blood in the face of the brave new world of the Internet, and paying too much attention to what they say and do is to tie your fate to theirs.

I wonder, though: in the age of pseudonyms and internet anonymity, where no one knows you're a dog, how will this issue play out in the future? And much longer do you think the economic fate of the writer as a profession is going to stay with New York and the "literary" crowd?

And I'll stop considering it whining when women are in the same number of dangerous and life-threatening jobs as men. Women are far, far less likely to be maimed or killed on the job than men, statistically. Let's see some parity on that, too, shall we?
06:53 AM on 09/15/2010
To say that encouragement by women doesn't count, leaves me wondering why? Men are encouraged by other men, why can't women be encouraged by other women. This doesn't make sense. Why do you need approval by men to consider yourselves worthy? I would think women have enough capital to produce their own works and give their own awards. I don't get the problem? Do you really believe women readers think men are the better authors? Anyhow, your tongue-in-cheek article is much appreciated and quite funny! (Glad you only need the bucks and not the male encouragement. :)