Barack's Woman Problem


Maybe Barack Obama ought to go looking for his Inner Atheist, because lately, his spiritual advisers are throwing him under the bus instead of leading him towards a Sweet Chariot.

The performance of a Catholic priest in Obama's Chicago church, mocking Hillary Clinton in a cruel and humiliating way, is just the latest of the slings and arrows Obama's spiritual mentors have inflicted. And the raucous laughter inside the church did not help either, because Barack Obama has a woman problem, and not a small one.

I recently talked to several women that I had never regarded as overtly political, who surprised me by said they were not going to vote for Obama because of the way Clinton has been treated. The rage is wide and deep, as reporters who have been out around the country can testify.

And you can talk yourself blue in the face saying that claims of sexism are exaggerated, that Clinton's problems are of her own making, that women are too thin skinned etc. etc. Women have been shocked by the sexism that has emerged in the media, from their bosses and co-workers, and from some political operatives. The emotion is real, and it is deep. Obama needs to move to blunt this anger if he hopes to be elected president.

He needs to offer Hillary Clinton a high-profile position, so that he can energize her passionate supporters, who will be desperately needed in the fall. He should either put her on the ticket as vice president or proclaim that she will be his first nominee for the Supreme Court.

As to the veep spot, conventional wisdom has it that vice presidents should be chosen for their geographic appeal, because they are popular or have a strong organization in a state that might prove crucial in the general election. Bill Clinton and Al Gore ignored that arithmetic, offering two attractive young Southerners, a team with sex appeal. "Young Guns," a Newsweek cover called them.

Hillary Clinton could offer that sort of sizzle. She has become a mega-celebrity, a politician who has astonishingly turned herself from a cool, commanding "inevitable" candidate into a feisty, scrappy, comeback kid. A lot of people have come to love her, warts and all. She's great in diners, at truck stops and in local bars, places where Obama does not seem comfortable. She's become a tireless, fabulous campaigner, a Yale law grad who can belt down a boilermaker with the boys with gusto. This talent doesn't seem to have anything to do with social class. I saw Nelson Rockefeller working a rope line in his prime and he had the common touch. So did jack Kennedy, a son of Harvard and fabulous wealth. Working-class boy Richard Nixon was uneasy with his peers; wealthy John Kerry seemed to have a tin ear, asking for Swiss cheese on a Philly cheese steak.

Hillary could help the Democratic ticket in Appalachia and the rust belt, areas that elect presidents. Her ability to connect with working-class whites and women could shore up what seems to be a real weakness in the Obama campaign. Die-hard Hillary haters can say that she's the "old politics," that she was too late at being against the war, that her hardball tactics were offensive, that she's not left enough, and so on. But I am tired of purist Democrats who lose. If Al Gore had won his own state, the 4000 American servicemen and women who have died in Iraq would most likely be alive today. (Yes, Gore won the popular vote, but Republican hardball trumped popular sentiment.)

You can argue that Hillary as veep would energize the Republican base, and that's true. But does anybody think the base will not be emerged with all the 527's running constant video feedback loops featuring the Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers and chanting "Barack HUSSEIN Obama?"

As to the second option, a great many women would breathe a sigh of relief knowing that Hillary Clinton would be one of the Supremes. Roe v. Wade would be safe, and a fine legal mind would be added to the court. A journalist I know who heard presentations by McCain, Obama and Hillary came away absolutely awed by Hillary's smarts. The others took prepared questions, he said, but Hillary just stood up and took all the reporters' questions and answered them off the cuff.

I could see a Hillary term on the court as harking back to the great liberal, William O. Douglas. He was not content to closet himself in his chambers. He traveled and spoke tirelessly all around the US. An early environmentalist, in his 80s he hiked much of the length of the Chesapeake and Ohio canal and put a very human face on what is too often seen as an austere and unsympathetic institution. As a Justice, Hillary Clinton would be one of the most important and powerful women in the nation.

The Obama-Clinton race has been one of the closest races in electoral history. It has energized Democrats and brought new voters to the party. No matter what you think of her, Hillary has proved herself a fighter, a tireless campaigner and someone who can inspire true passion in her many supporters.

Democrats disrespect her at their peril.

 
 
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OtayPanky
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03:35 PM on 06/01/2008
Barack doesn't have a woman problem, just like he doesn't have a white problem, a black problem or a man problem.

There are - however - plenty of women, men, blacks and whites who have their own problems - some self-inflicted, others inflicted by the imperfections of our society.

People who decide not to vote for Barack because of the residual effects of sexism or racism in their own hearts and minds will do what they do, and should not be pandered to by the rest of us.

And in case you're not bright enough to realize it - sexism and racism and their residual after effects are problems of consciousness that can afflict men and women, blacks and whites.

One of the best things about this primary campaign is that it has been an immense purgative of the albatross of liberal guilt. You've had a tough ride because of your race or gender? I'm sorry for that. You want to use it to manipulate me? I'm sorry about that, too - and I'm not buying what you're selling.

In an age when the planet, as well as the country, are going to hell in a handbasket, no one's handing out much in the way of reparations. Get over yourself and your grievances, and let's get on with it together - or not.
02:36 PM on 06/01/2008
Everyone should check this article:

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/07/clinton200807

which is also featured on the HuffPost home page. It is about Bill Clinton, mainly, and his activities since leaving the White House. There is no way on God's earth that anyone with a spouse's record like this could ever get a VP nomination or a Supreme Court nomination or a cabinet post. Also, anyone who thinks Sen. Clinton has the qualifications to be a Supreme Court justice is indulging in wishful thinking anyway.

I understand, to a degree, how disappointed Sen. Clinton's supporters are but this is not the last chance for a woman president in their lifetimes. Look at the amazing collection of women senators, governors, congresspersons, etc. Sen. Clinton is not your last, best hope.
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OtayPanky
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04:37 PM on 06/01/2008
ObserverinVancouver: Sen. Clinton is not your last, best hope.

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Exactly so.

In fact, many many women - intelligent, educated women - decided she was in fact merely their first, worst hope...and chose not to support her on that basis.

And I'd say the exact same thing about both Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton in terms of the black community's hopes to see a black POTUS someday.

And yes, that article was a pisser - by Dee Dee Myers husband, no less. Jeez Louise, would we want this mess floating around the White House AGAIN?
11:17 PM on 05/31/2008
It's not taking long for those Dems who have hollered for Hillary to go away to start examining their Obama a little more worriedly: He tends to surround himself with some downright weird folks.

Rev. Wright.
The looney tunes white rapper priest.
Sammi Powers the Irish moonbat.
12:45 AM on 06/01/2008
Who knows what else will surface on Obama before November. We hardly know this guy.
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Yohomegirl
01:42 AM on 06/01/2008
Does Hillary even go to church?
07:44 PM on 05/31/2008
BTW Ms. Rivers, you owe Barack Obama an apology.

Likening him to a stud race horse, dredging up arcane " Sambo" references. If he is suppose to apologize for sexism in this country, you should apologize for racism.

And if you are able to ignore the race baiting enacted by the Clinton campaign, the subtle insinuations of his Islamic ties ( the infamous non-denial confirmation "not that I know of"", the ridiculous charges of elitism ( which work as both code for " that Barack Obama with his ten dollar words thinks your bitter, and he's better than you" and concurrently synonymous with " uppity") then you clearly have no regard for the plight of African Americans.

Its called solipsism. Not being able to see outside the range of your own eyesight. Not being able to empathize with the plight of others. Expecting the White House based on what is or isn't between your legs.

Well I beg your pardon, we never promised you a rose garden...
02:20 AM on 06/01/2008
Know what? No one heard of Obama before 2004. For all we know he did used to be a muslim! We dont know this guy.
07:18 PM on 05/31/2008
Like others who have commented I find myself deeply angry at the way this campaign script has played out. I am just so over being told to sit down and shut up already. I am so over big boys saying any negative thing they please anywhere they please about women, just because they can. I keep wondering who in the Dem hierarchy really has it in for the Clintons so much so that they searched out, fostered, mentored, and generally made possible Obama's candidacy. Seriously, this guy didn't spring fully-grown from Zeus' head! He didn't just call up the DNC back in 2004 to ask for some primetime to say a few words. And where did those angels at the beginning when the bank account was at $0.00 come from? Clinton has faults, to be sure, and her campaign hasn't always been the smoothest; but she is not the Hydra that she has been built up to be by the way the press has presented her. I am not glad to learn that there are others like me, because that is not a good sign for the Democratic Party. Nevertheless, Sen. Obama has already told me he doesn't need me and that his interests are not mine, because my interests are the "old politics". So, good luck to you, sir. I will vote for the "D", but I won't participate in the campaign. After this one, boys I'm looking for another party- this one is a fake.
10:26 PM on 05/31/2008
When did Obama tell you he doesn't need you? He criticized Hillary's campaign as being that of old politics: divide, distract, play upon peoples' fears... are you saying you embody those things? That's the only conclusion I can come to if you interpret his saying he rejects the politics of the past as a rejection of you as a person.
09:37 AM on 06/03/2008
Goodness gracious, I don't think Sen. Obama has dissed me personally! My comments were directed more towards his thoughts on "the old fights" that he's not interested in continuing to fight about rather than his style of executing his office.
06:54 PM on 05/31/2008
I'm so surprised that Huff Po has allowed a post with such a pro-female/pro-Hillary POV to appear. Yup, I'm one of the angry,educated women-over-40 who are tempted to not vote at all. The more this pre-election nonsense goes on, the more I see a vote for Obama in November as condoning sexism and disenfranchisement of American women. Which poison should I pick? The warmonger or the sexist pawn?

Right now, I'm feeling that my sense of equity and equality as a white woman in US society is an illusion. Nasty personal attacks are routinely flung at Hillary Clinton by the media (notably MSNBC), Obama's weird and hateful church, and the old boy network in the Democratic party. If I were in Hillary's position I am sure that I would receive the same vitriolic harangue that she gets. That the disrespectful comments and gender-based attacks haven't resulted in much-deserved universal outrage and condemnation is appalling to me.

Obama has many willing surrogates who do his dirty business of slander and defamation toward his more mature female opponent. He'll never have to soil his hands or even feign disapproval about the overt sexism, because in our society it is okay to be sexist.

I wish I had another party to turn to this election year.
07:24 PM on 05/31/2008
When did Barack Obama condone sexism.

What, because he couldn't stop pundits, and surrogates from speaking their mind, he's culpable for sexist statement they make?

He's done nothing sexist in his campaign, save for using a term of endearment " sweetie" in regard to a reporter.

But you would let more Americans die in an unnecessary and illegitimate war, because of your misdirected anger at Barack Obama.

Maybe its your father you're mad at, or some asshole employer, or men in general. But you have absolutely no case of sexism against Barack Obama. Save for these ridiculous assertions he condones something someone else said.

He's not his brothers or pastors keeper. And you should really try to present one credible point substantiating a claim of sexism on his part, before abandoning your party.
07:32 PM on 05/31/2008
Millions of us, men and women, feel the way you do.
06:33 PM on 05/31/2008
Bit of a stretch: Catholic priest thats an Obama supporter but NOT his pastor means anything. You need to change flavors of Kool Aid.
There is a reality that is about to smack you on the side of the head. It's called the main event and its Obama V McCain. Cool off and think of McCain clinching the five plus justices to overturn Roe V Wade and 4/8 years of corrupt inept GOP white house.
If any petty need for vengeance requires you to disrupt or impede the democrats, so be it. But I'd be quiet about such stupidity.
07:37 PM on 05/31/2008
The Democratic Party is doing it to itself. Abandoning millions of us who have been active for 40, 50, 60 years, the the Party goes for the kids and their messianic hero. They screwed up the primary process: caucuses with non-Democrats in some states but not others, and proportional delegates instead of winner take all. The latter would reveala true potential for November. But this
is the Democratic Party doing what it does best: snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!
10:08 PM on 05/31/2008
How precisely is the party abandoning you? Because for once in almost 50 years they've nominated someone whose age is under 50? Or because he's black? Which is it, because I can't see how you can make this claim?

States have, for the last 40 years at least, held a variety of electoral processes, caucuses, primaries, open, closed. The rules of each state are set by each state and its state party organization, not the DNC. And it wasn't the people of my generation who designed it. Blame your own.
06:30 PM on 05/31/2008
Why should Barack Obama be responsible for blunting the anger women feel towards their treatment in this society. He's been nothing but respectful towards women, treating Hillary as he would any male rival.

Misdirected anger at parties not responsible, much of the world's problems can be attributed to this. Black men have been on the receiving end of the shaft in this country ( and black women ) since being shanghaied from their native country centuries ago and set to work as slaves.

He owes you nothing. And yet he promises fairness, for all races and both genders. It's a very gracious individual who can look beyond personal grievances on behald of the greater good. Perhaps you should try it yourself some time.

As for offering her a Vice Presidential slot, don't hold your breath. She threw the kitchen sink, she diminished his career to a speech, she insinuated he'd let soccer moms sleeping blond angels die at 3:00 a.m. He owes her nothing.
06:26 PM on 05/31/2008
As a white male, I am split. Should I care that Hillary has faced sexism, about as much as I should care that Obama has faced racism. Which in both cases i feel strong about.
Both are breaking barriers (i.e. 43 white male presidents all beat 43 white guys to get there) so I am just happy my party is the one these two contented in for the chance at being president. But as an Obama supporter I just don't get how not 1 Hillary supporter ever talks about the level a racsim Barack has had to deal with. THEY ARE BOTH DEALING WITH CRAP NO ONE PERSON SHOULD HAVE TO DEAL WITH so as long as you keep talking about sexism and not talking about racism why should Barack and his supporters feel for Hillary, we should, but its tough when we can't see that you feel for Barack.
06:16 PM on 05/31/2008
Barack Obama is fine. It is women who have a problem; particularly ord, White women. I do not know their problem but there is a tinge of racism, sexim and just outright entitlement about them. Obama won fair and square. Stop undermining him. The woman candidate lost. Respect the rules of the game...
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HeevenSteven
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06:16 PM on 05/31/2008
This is ridiculous. Hillary Clintonism does not equal sexism. The Clintons and her campaign are responsible for her problems, not sexism.
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06:10 PM on 05/31/2008
don't get you get your (insert: trousers, pantsuits, tu-tus, dickies, panties, hanes, fruit of the loom, loin cloths,,,,,,) in a twist.

if you seriously think that the Democratic Party should give up the Presidency because of slights and imperfect intentions and innuendos and blah, blah, blah, then you will get McCain. Where have you been the last seven years? in a coma?

Rinse, repeat!

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05:32 PM on 05/31/2008
Yes, why should Obama who shares practically the same program as Clinton be punished for people's bosses, the media, male dopes--of which there are legions. Why?

Do you want to risk Roe vs. Wade? A Supreme Court that will shackle your daughters' reproductive rights for at least one, if not two, generations? More war in Iraq? Our standing among the family of nations?

Yes, it is enraging to see women treated poorly. It makes mad, so mad that I am going to be sure that McCain doesn't reach the White House.
05:28 PM on 05/31/2008
I can't believe I am reading such a rational, reasonable and on-the-money post as this. This is
exactly right. My wife, my sister-in-law, the women I work with, are so mad at Obama, I think the Democratic Party is in danger of losing them for good. The solution is to give the Hillary base half the ticket.
On the otherhand, if the Obama campaign and the Obamamaniacs think they can win without us, it may be instructive for the future to prove them wrong, i.e., a McCain victory. Young people and political purists often isolate themselves from others, and feel so confident in their righteousness, that defeat is inevitable.
Anyway, a truly great article.
05:57 PM on 05/31/2008
The women you know are mad at Obama because they feel he stole the nomination that Clinton supporters feel "belonged" to her. This is not jolly olde England where you have heir and heiresses. This is a Democracy and the people have spoken. You all cry sexism, but expect Clinton to be treated with kid gloves. NO ONE and I MEAN NO ONE would be reacting this way if Hillary Clinton was A MAN.

If you remember, there were other candidates at the beginning of this process who TRUMPED Hillary when it came to experience and "electability". They lost. Why isn't anybody upset that some rookie took what was "rightfully" theirs.
05:58 PM on 05/31/2008
"it may be instructive for the future to prove them wrong, "

Have you even CONSIDERED the possibility that YOU might be proved wrong??

Michale.....
06:28 PM on 05/31/2008
I fear being proved wrong by Obama winning without the Hillary/Reagan Democrats. You would love that, but I will do my best to prevent that from happening by voting for McCain IF I see that Obama will try to win without us. If you flip the Hillary base off and we all stay home, and you win, we really lose. So if we Hillary people are not satisfied with the Democratic ticket, we need to go all the way and vote for McCain. See my logic. Therefore, it is imperative for the Obama campaign to win over all these angry people.
07:41 PM on 05/31/2008
Let's see. Stevenson, McGovern, Carter's second term, Mondale, Gore, Kerry....

You're right--it's not as though there's any modern historical precedent showing that Democrats have a bad habit of trying to please one tiny, self-righteous segment of the electorate and nominating someone who is doomed in November.
05:20 PM on 05/31/2008
Option 2 is the only option
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05:54 PM on 05/31/2008
Supreme sounds good, but would she get through the Confirmation Hearings and emerge intact? I would love to see her in Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat. She probably would like to retire (she's 75), but would never leave as long as a Repug is in charge. I looked at Wik, and in 2007 Forbes rated her as the 20th most powerful woman in the WORLD and the most powerful female lawyer in the WORLD. That's not too shabby.
07:36 PM on 05/31/2008
Of course she would. Before all of this media foolishness, she was highly respected by Senators on both sides of the aisle. (in contrast to Senator Obama, despite the fact that many of them are jumping on the bandwagon now.) She'd sail right on through.

....I am tired of purist Democrats who lose....

And how. That's the key line.

Senator Obama and his supporters have to decide what really matters--winning the general election and helping the entire _world_, or pretending Senator Clinton is the Big Bad Wolf, and making _sure_ that he will lose by a landslide in November.

Putting one's head in the sand and pretending that PA/FL/OH and so forth don't matter is just the height of hubris--and stupidity. Senator Obama should do the math--and then, make a smart choice. The free ride the media has been giving him won't last forever.