If you've been listening to the pundits, the campaign staff and the candidate herself, Hillary's pugilistic display is a prime reason to back her. Surely we want this fighter in the White House. It doesn't matter that the election numbers are overwhelmingly against her. It doesn't matter that party leaders and political experts are screaming about the damage to the Democratic Party. Pay no heed to glaring reality; damn the torpedoes -- full speed ahead.
Who does this remind you of? Who else is a fighter in the face of overwhelming opposition? Who else listens to no one holding contradictory opinions? Is there another politician who ignores the numbers, the advice of experts and the popular consensus on critical issues?
Can you say 'George Bush'?
Yes, Hillary has displayed great tenacity. Yes, she is impressive in her drive and commitment to her campaign. But these characteristics are not inherently valuable. We have an outstanding example of this residing in the White House right now.
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I'm more then a bit worried that if someone with the full authoriy to do so told her, "OK Hillary, Obama will concede and you can have the nomination- If you take off running naked down Pennsylvania Avenue!",
that she would get with her handlers and say, " OK, how could I damage control that?"
Catherine, I could not agree with you more. I am very disappointed from what Hillary has shown me duing the past year. Shes not the person I thought she was.
I was inspired when she said "If you want a winner who knows how to take them on, then I'm your girl."
I had no idea that by "take them on" she meant she would take on her own party.
Catherine, I have watched you on TV since 2005 and you are an extraordinary person.
People always tell me Keith Olbermann was the first one to call out the Bush administration with his "Special Commets." When they tell me that, I always correct them and say no... Catherine Crier was the first one with her "Crier Wires."
I'm so glad to see you blogging here and I am a fan.
Fighting for the sake of fighting is senseless. That is what Hillary is doing at present.
Facing impossible odds, one would hope that a person who wanted to be president would possess the common sense to bow out. The fact that Hillary is continuing her campaign says she isn't willing to accept reality. This feels way too much like Bush and makes me want to run as fast as I can in whatever direction takes me away from possibly having her in the WH.
The obvious comparison is of Obama voting against the Iraq war when the facts didn't support it. It may have been unpopular to do so but a president has to make decisions based on facts, not on emotion. In most cases irrational decisions are those where we let our emotions cloud our judgement. The American people need somebody with a level head running things. Blind nationalism has produced what we have today. If we want the same tomorrow then Hillary will do fine. But if we want to have a chance to find our way out of the mess we have then we need to rely on our heads rather than our gut.
The hallmark of Democrats has been their willingness to embrace reality and quit. Quitting in fact is the chief virtue of Democrats, especially male Democrats. Biden, Richardson, Dodd, quitters all. Gore wanted to quit on election night in 2000, but wasn't allowed to until later...when he quit. Jimmy Carter quit early on election night in 1980 and depressed West Coast Democratic voters enough to elect many more Republicans. But hey, that was "reality." Getting other Democrats to quit has been the way Barry has succeeded so far. Claim every success his opponents use is based in "racism", and they drop like flies. So far, Clinton has garnered slightly less than Barry in the primary vote, but she refuses to quit, like Democrats are supposed to do, and Barry's folks find that offensive. Funny, but when they discuss Florida and Michigan they talk about how "them is the rules". When Clinton keeps on in the primaries, which last time I checked were governed by "the rules", Barry's supporters cry foul. I'm looking for someone who refuses to quit, in spite of being behind. For me that's Clinton. And if not her, McCain. I hope in October when Barry isn't able to gain enough support among working class white voters, he'll do what is right, recognize the reality of the situation. And quit.
I think Americans are simply war-weary.
No more fighting... we have been pitted to fight each other over race, economics, religion, culture... when will it end? When will we be encouraged and led by example to engage in unity, all for one and one for all... why can't our sensibilities be taken to a higher consciousness of peaceful co-existence within these United States and other nations world wide...
We're turning the page. Fighting is self-destructive and we need to move on.
Indeed there appears to be some internal struggle going on in the psyche of Hillary. Externally she thinks she has to 'fight', even when the fight is irrational.
Today she has her surrogates saying again that voted delegates don't count, and she refuses to accept the seating of the Michigan delegates that the state has proposed.
I honestly think Hillary has a personality disorder.
Yes she has a personality disorder that the whole world has seen-lying.
Hillary's tenacity cannot be compared to George Bush's. He is tenacious to a course of action because it’s neither in his nature or capacity to move away from the slim list of ideas he has been taught to parrot. He is a manufactured president by the right with the skills one would expect from a message boy. Hillary on the other hand is an intelligent, complex, hard working and principled person who happens to be a politician. I cannot imagine the efforts she has put in day and night to stay in this race. Barrack knows this and I am sure he understands her right now better than most. She may have overreached and taken wrong advice during her campaign but then campaigns are about gambling. When a dream ends, there’s a void, she will face it, come out strong and be a powerful positive force in America for a long time.
First she will have to disappear for a long time, so we can forget.
This is why I was excited at first about the possibility of a female president I thought it would bring in a different way of looking at things that we didnt need that male testosterone in the WHite House but HIlary disappointed me Obama has more of a female perspective than her and what's more it does NOT make him look weak one iota it makes him look like someone who is in the solutions business that want to find common sense solutions rather than someone pushing a particular ideology. Not everything has to be a take no prisoner fight and the way she ran her campaign showed me what will happen in the White House. Look at the difference yesterday Obama goes to Washington and you see people are excited to see him he exudes power on people but you dont see him intimidating them meanwhile they show a picture of Hilary and how lonely she look and you almost feel sorry for her. You dont need to be Crass to be powerful. In fact it signals the opposite. Powerful people weild influence. Crass people dominate and thats the last thing Washington needs in a President.
Carol
This article is spot on- Hillary Clinton has evolved [or become unmasked] into a conservative Republican. Her current war mongering threats to obliterate Iran parallels with the rhetoric made by George Bush before he invaded Iraq. The claim of not reading the war brief before giving her vote to take America to war is a lie and is disproven by this YouTube video http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=code+pink+hillay&search_type=
Furthermore, Mrs. Clinton has a deficit when it comes to truthfulness or credibility. The next YouTube video illustrates how she lobbied her husband to pardon imprisoned FALN terrorists members in order to secure the Latino votes for her NY Senate campaign in 1999 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfCkQ-p2beo
"Who else is a fighter in the face of overwhelming opposition? Who else listens to no one holding contradictory opinions? Is there another politician who ignores the numbers, the advice of experts and the popular consensus on critical issues? ... We have an outstanding example of this residing in the White House right now."
You're a smart lady, Catherine, but you swung and missed on this one. That "popular consensus" you reference might be true for overwrought Obama supporters, but it sure as hell doesn't apply to the rest of the country!
04/28 - 05/07, Real Clear Politics Average of all major polls
Obama: 45.0, Clinton: 44.9, Spread: Obama +0.1
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html
Comparing Clinton to an arguable sociopath, demonstrable dullard, war criminal and (per the ACTUAL "popular consensus") worst president in U.S. history leaves you in a contorted pose that warrants prompt intervention by an orthopedic surgeon.
Fighters go to Vegas to me Don King. Diplomats go to the white house to negotiate peace.
Be sure to insert your earplugs, strap on your helmet and avert your gaze when the rocks start flying in the general. The diplomacy comes AFTER the electoral battle.
Fortunately, we've already held our primaries (with only 6 contests out of 56 to go), so we don't have to use a poll of a few hundred people.
We have over 33.5 million votes, and Obama leads in the voted delegates by 5.5%.
That's a clear winner.
Actually, a 4,662 combined sample of "likely" and "registered" voters (since you're citing statistics)...
... and what does your paltry 5.5% have to do with Crier's invocation of a specious "consensus" comparing Clinton to an arguable sociopath, demonstrable dullard, war criminal and (per the ACTUAL "popular consensus") worst president in U.S. history?
I am more and more convinced that the people on this BLOG who CLAIM to be OBAMA supporters are REALLY just more of those same nasty, hateful, ruthless and insidiously saint-centered RIGHT WING REPUBLICANS from the 90's who literally STRUNG Bill Clinton UP considering he did NOTHING that the other "boys" have not done and STILL do since the beginning of TIME! And yes, IN THE WHITEHOUSE! Of course it would very likely be these insidiously devious so called Americans who would NOW go to any length and pretend that they are in fact YES "fighting" for Barack Obama! In fact, perhaps it IS THEM who are in here SPEWING even MORE sick hatred on what so many people refer to as "another Clinton!" AT THE SAME TIME they are pitting Hillary supporters against Obama so we won't vote at all! Afterall, who would want to vote for Barack Obama after his so called supporters have bludgeoned and strung up yet another Clinton with their disgusting rage and HATE? It would be like giving a wink, wink, nod, nod to the lynch mob!!! NO ONE would do that!!!!
No, it was not the Clintons who made the air putrid during the otherwise peaceful and prosperous Clinton administration - it was the fanatical religious RIGHT WING of the REPUBLICAN PARTY!
Where do you fit in to all of this Catherine? AFterall, HRC is still a "potential" democratic party candidate!!! Anything could happen between NOW and THEN!
Wow,.. Delusion disease is spreading rampid through the Hillary campaign from her, all the way down to her supporters.
Can it, be totally blind to the evil, short sighted campaign that Hillary has run against Obama ?
Is that even possible ?
Catherine, Nicely said and what you said is sad, but true. She is like a guest at your party. Twenty-five people have left at 12:00 p.m., but she is the only one left, will not leave, and does not get the hint and is still sitting there at 4:00 a.m., after you turn off the lights, go to bed, get up the next morning, and.....there she is, waiting for breakfast. She is so much the W., it is darn right scary, although her communication skills are within the superior range. His, on the other hand, are so deficient, that his communicative issues span across all areas, and are classified as "Global." Eight years of this guy, unable to put a 3 word sentence together coherently, without the classic, "Uh, uh, uh. The man is a nightmare.
I have an excellent example of this blind ambition and tenacity right outside my office window
the homeless lady who lives on the bus stop bench - NOTHING could take this woman down
(not a single soul boards the bus from that stop anymore - she's scary!)
Let's hope you don't find yourself in similar hard times in your own life and people are as disdainful of your misfortunes as you are of this poor woman's.
I was hoping you would say that the bus riders all gave a little something to this lady. She is clinging on to the only thing that is considered "hers, the bench. You sound like a GWB supporter, no empathy for the less fortunate.
Do I detect awe for this lady? Why doesn't someone find her a place to stay? Oh yes, we have homeless in my town too and I know some are so independent they refuse help.
Hillary is mentioned daily as part of a yoke..."The Clintons" won't like this, that, the other". I don't know how Barack could consider having a tag-team Vice Presidency. What bothers me most about Hillary is prolonging the inevitable...no, that's not true, what bothers me most is that Obama will pick up her campaign debts...donuts, Mark Penn et al...this extended race only imposes more wasteful spending... I'd like her to be the "Rocky" she envisions herself, climb to the top of the stairs, shout "YO Obama, this is what I want"...then get the heck out of the way and let us continue this great fight of recapturing our Country.
I remember this argument for Bush in 2000:
"He may be inexperienced but he'll be a leader and surround himself with good people to help him."
So, who resembles Bush?
The MONSTER!
Hillary is no Bush.
For one thing, she doesn't listen to experts. 250 economists, to be exact.
And Obama...
Obama has many things Bush does not have, including character and good judgement. This we have seen.
Hillary...often referred to as "the Clintons"..."the Clintons won't do, won't like"..."Bill's third term" references from many networks daily. It's difficult to believe Obama would choose a dual vice-presidency. My grief is that he will "pick up her tab" for her campaign...donuts, Penn, et al. If she wanted to help the Democrats capture the White House she'd back out now and save that money for the run against the Republicans. Honestly, wish she'd pull a real "Rocky" run up the steps, say YO OBAMA, this is what I want and then get out. It's time for her to put her extraordinary talents towards helping this Party.
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