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Cathleen Falsani

Cathleen Falsani

Posted: March 10, 2011 09:28 PM

Jury Out On Religion and the Death Penalty


On Ash Wednesday, Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn signed a law abolishing the death penalty in his state, adding the Land of Lincoln to the growing list of 16 states where capital punishment is no longer an option.

"It is impossible to create a perfect system, free of all mistakes," Quinn said after signing the death penalty law, which takes effect July 1. "I think it's the right and just thing to abolish the death penalty and punish those who commit heinous crimes -- evil people -- with life in prison without parole or any chance of release."

Quinn, who is Catholic, revealed that he turned to his faith -- to the Bible and to Catholic leaders and tradition -- in contemplating the bill lawmakers delivered to him in January.

The governor even quoted Cardinal Joseph Bernardin, the beloved archbishop of Chicago who died in 1996, saying, "In a complex, sophisticated democracy like ours, means other than the death penalty are available and can be used to protect society."

Religious leaders have been at the forefront of the death penalty abolitionist movement in Illinois and nationwide. But there has been a disconnect between their activism and the opinions of their flocks.

According to a 2010 survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life, 62 percent of Americans support the death penalty in murder cases, with only 30 percent saying they oppose it. That figure is nearly identical to the results of a similar survey in 2007, but lower than a 1996 survey, when 78 percent of Americans said they supported capital punishment for murder and just 18 percent said they were opposed.

Survey results on the death penalty vary little across religious groups -- at least among white Americans. Last year, 74 percent of white evangelicals, 71 percent of white mainline Protestants and 68 percent of white Catholics said they favor capital punishment, according to Pew.

But less than half of black Protestants (37 percent) and Hispanic Catholics (43 percent) said they approve of the death penalty.

"The light of God is shining, shining positively on our state," Illinois state Sen. Kwame Raoul said after Quinn signed the death penalty ban.

Raoul was not alone in thinking that the Illinois ban is a moral as well as a legal victory for people of good faith. As more states examine whether to eliminate capital punishment, some wonder whether the days of the death penalty are numbered and what, if any, role people of faith might play in reaching such a tipping point.

Racial disparities and too many wrongful convictions are often cited as compelling reasons to abolish the death penalty. In Illinois, for instance, the state executed 12 prisoners after the death penalty was reinstated in 1977. During that time, Illinois also exonerated 20 death
row inmates.

"One significant moral problem with the state having the authority of capital punishment is that the decision is irrevocable and so often carried out in ways that are racially questionable -- studies prove this," said Richard Cizik, a former vice president in the National Association of Evangelicals. "My conscience can't accept this appalling reality.

"If it's not a matter of serious reflection ... it should be!" Cizik continued. "To miss the moral questions at stake is to be hard of heart."

According to Mike Farrell, president of the group Death Penalty Focus, many evangelicals and other religious folks still have tough hearts when it comes to moral questions about the death penalty.

What Farrell referred to as the "fundamentalist Christian community" remains "wedded to a political position that embraces state killing and insists that its use is right, holy, biblically ordained and necessary -- `the Lord's work,' as some would have it," he said.

Yet Farrell -- best known for his role as Capt. B.J. Hunnicutt on TV's "M*A*S*H*" -- said he's seeing a change of opinion among rank-and-file Catholics, a shift he attributes to the "strength of their leadership's advocacy."

He sees a similar trend emerging among mainstream Protestants, but senses "that the shift toward abolition in their community of believers is more reflective of a general awakening on the part of the American public."

Farrell believes people of faith can have a significant impact in moving toward a nationwide abolition by addressing capital punishment as a pressing moral and spiritual concern and shedding light on the "sins of the (justice) system."

"I believe we are moving, ever more rapidly," he said, "to a point where abolition is inevitable," Farrell said.

 
 
 

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On Ash Wednesday, Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn signed a law abolishing the death penalty in his state, adding the Land of Lincoln to the growing list of 16 states where capital punishment is no longer an o...
On Ash Wednesday, Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn signed a law abolishing the death penalty in his state, adding the Land of Lincoln to the growing list of 16 states where capital punishment is no longer an o...
 
 
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08:25 PM on 03/16/2011
Good for you if you can use your religion in the works of justice and help prevent miscarriage of justice or racism driven state sponsored murder. As far as I'm concerned, I could care less about what Christianity or Judaism say, the Biblical scriptures are full of questionable moral prescriptions.
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timm553
In vino veritas
06:09 PM on 03/16/2011
From my reading of the bible, it certainly does.
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02:45 AM on 03/16/2011
Jesus: 'Honor your father and your mother,' and 'Whoever curses father or mother must certainly be put to death.' Matthew 15

Jesus: "So Pilate said to (Jesus), "Do you not speak to me? Do you not know that I have power to release you and I have power to crucify you?" Jesus answered (him), "You would have no power over me if it had not been given to you from above." John 19

Jesus: Now one of the criminals hanging there reviled Jesus, saying, "Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us." The other, however, rebuking him, said in reply, "Have you no fear of God, for you are subject to the same condemnation? And indeed, we have been condemned justly, for the sentence we received corresponds to our crimes, but this man has done nothing criminal." Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." (Jesus) replied to him, "Amen, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." Luke 23

Jesus: "You have heard the ancients were told, ˜YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER" "Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court". But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever shall say to his brother, "Raca", shall be guilty before the supreme court and whoever shall say, "You fool", shall be guilty enough to go into fiery hell." Matthew 5
11:20 AM on 03/15/2011
I love all and pray for all, better Jesus said if you do. I judge not, for I to will be judged, told by the same measure for which I judge by. Forgive us Lord for we know not what we do.
10:54 AM on 03/15/2011
Thou shall not K1 ll. No, religion does not support the death penalty.
06:25 PM on 03/15/2011
More specifically, this Commandment is "Thou shall not murder" (i.e., putting someone to death without cause). God has given the state the power of life and death over its subjects to maintain public safety because God has established the governing authorities, and it is to them the responsibility of putting those to death who commit capital crimes. There are a number of verses in both the Old and New Testaments that support capital punishment when. For example, Revelation 13: 9-10 states, "He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints." "Kill" being different than "murder" without cause.

There may be other "religions" that do not support the death penalty, but Christianity is not one of them.
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RichardinJax
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10:40 PM on 03/15/2011
You translation of the commandment is false. It has been used by those that want to ride Jesus for personal gain but love them some execution.
But it is moot because in Christianity it is not the killing but taking the judgment into your hands to do it that offends God. You don't have the right to make that choice as God gave that life and He will take it away. And that is what Moses brought down the mountain not a perverse "Christiane Based" excuse to kill.
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timm553
In vino veritas
06:10 PM on 03/16/2011
And then it goes on to direct all that smiting.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
07:06 AM on 03/15/2011
Religion does support the death penalty and maybe even Christianity but followers of Jesus are totally against it.
06:43 PM on 03/15/2011
A "follower" of Jesus that is familiar with Scripture should know that Jesus Himself acknowledged the legitimacy of capital punishment. God has establishe­d the governing authoritie­s, and it is to them the responsibi­lity of putting those to death who commit capital crimes. When Jesus faced Pontius Pilate, Pilate said to Jesus: "Do You not know that I have power to crucify You..?" Jesus replied: "You could have no power at all against Me unless it had been given you from above." (John 19:10-11). Jesus reminded Pilate that the use of the death penalty is a divinely entrusted responsibility that is to be justly implemented.
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RichardinJax
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10:42 PM on 03/15/2011
No..just no.
"the problem with you is your religion"
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iLdoRight
Encouraging The Rightest Rightness
07:58 PM on 03/12/2011
A question for all who claim to be of the "Christian or Jewish" religions , "Do the Holy Scriptures indicate Our Creator wants certain people to be put to death?". See 1 Cor 5:5, I think, and listen to all the Hebrew Scriptures where they say certain people should be put to death. Now the trouble with what God wants in today's society is that the courts have said police officers can lie in certain situations and perhaps they go too far at times in order to get a conviction against a person that they wrongly believe is the right person for the crime. Those pushing for conviction in the court may see their conviction rate to be more important than if the person is guilty. There should be different verdicts such as (1) 100% guilty with an abundence of positive proof and no possibility of any doubt at all,or, (2) Only 99.995% positively convinced that this is the right person, with life untill it can be resolved.
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09:57 AM on 03/15/2011
Under Jewish Law, if 100% of the judges/juries agree about the death penalty as punishment, the court is prohibited from using it because if there is no single dissent it means there is something missing and the court cannot properly rule on it.

Do you really want to use our system? Because 100% certainty would make it impossible to actually punish people with the death penalty.

Oh, and seriously, the law and punishment part of the Bible is ours and the hippy lovey stuff is yours, its not a "judeo-christian" tradition as worshiping a statue of a man or making images of angels/God is already against the Old Testament because it fails commandment 1 or 2 (depending on your faith) "You shall not make for yourself an idol".
10:56 AM on 03/15/2011
Did God k 1 ll Cain who k1 l l his brother Abel? NO. Thou shall not k1 ll.
de-meme-ing
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01:45 PM on 03/12/2011
When rehabilitation is the agenda of the governor we will know that he is a man thinking rationally and justly.

Until then he is not.

Until then, prisoners are forced to find their own rehibilitation and that is coming more and more through religious extremism.

Ignoring rehabilitation in one area, death row inmates, with no hope of exit, carries over to the general population because "punishment" is part and parcel of one's mindset.

No kudos for the governor.......yet.

He has a responsibility to the public he serves to understand and address the issue of violence.
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
12:53 AM on 03/15/2011
If rehabilitation were that easy, everybody would be doing it.
11:39 AM on 03/12/2011
I am generally for the death penalty, but am adamant that those so punished have the fullest opportunities to appeal. And I am grateful to organizations such as The Innocence Project that help insure fair judgments.
One of my pet peeves, though, is the inconsistency of liberals, who are so pro-life when it comes to murderers and rapists (even the doubtless guilty ones), yet are so opposed to life (or silent) when it comes to the truly innocent--the baby in the womb.
I have repeatedly made this offer to my liberal friends: I will become rabidly anti-death penalty if they will become staunchly pro-life. So far I have had no takers. I guess the sacredness of life is not exactly a principle for them, but merely a slogan.
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
04:33 PM on 03/12/2011
Although I'm not Catholic, I would point out the Catholic Church is consistent on this issue (although it seems much easier to get the average politically minded Catholic parishoner or official riled up about abortion than it is to do so about the death penalty.)
09:42 PM on 03/14/2011
That is true, Talossa. Which makes Nancy Pelosi and the Kennedys even more of an enigma.
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josefz
In memory of Josef Zawinul
07:10 PM on 03/12/2011
I consider myself extremely liberal. I strongly support the death penalty and a woman's right to choose. The key to the abortion issue is not to outlaw it, but to educate early enough about practicing responsible and safe sex. About the death penalty, my best friend was recently murdered and I would gladly do anything in my power to see that his executor receives the same fate.
09:51 PM on 03/14/2011
Thanks, josefz for your honest answer. I fear your solution of education is rather naive, though. What sort of monumental education would have to happen to reverse over 1,000,000 abortions a year, the vast, vast, vast majority for convenience? I don't think outlawing is the answer either, but making it much more difficult than a trip to the tanning salon might help.
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05:02 AM on 03/12/2011
The biblical and theological support for the death penalty far outweighs any alleged teachings to the contrary.

Saint (& Pope) Pius V, "The just use of (executions), far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this (Fifth) Commandment which prohibits murder." "The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent" (1566).

All interpretations, contrary to the biblical support of capital punishment, are false. Interpreters ought to listen to the Bible’s own agenda, rather than to squeeze from it implications for their own agenda. As the ancient rabbis taught, “Do not seek to be more righteous than your Creator.” (Ecclesiastes Rabbah 7.33.). Part of Synopsis of Professor Lloyd R. Bailey’s book Capital Punishment: What the Bible Says, Abingdon Press, 1987.

Pope Pius XII: "When it is a question of the execution of a man condemned to death it is then reserved to the public power to deprive the condemned of the benefit of life, in expiation of his fault, when already, by his fault, he has dispossessed himself of the right to live." 9/14/52


"Death Penalty Support: Christian and secular Scholars"
http://prodpinnc.blogspot.com/2009/07/death-penalty-support-modern-catholic.html

Christianity and the death penalty
http://www.prodeathpenalty.com/DP.html#F.Christianity

Catholic and other Christian References: Support for the Death Penalty,
http://homicidesurvivors.com/2006/10/12/catholic-and-other-christian-references-support-for-the-death-penalty.aspx.
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Talossa
Liberal. Pro-Israel. Recovering atheist.
04:34 PM on 03/12/2011
Most Christians would just chuckle if you're trying to establish what Jesus taught by appealing to Papal pronouncements.
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wom122
Primum non nocere
05:07 PM on 03/12/2011
Christianity may have started with Jesus but it surely did not stop with him. Like it or nots, the popes and the Catholic church are part and parcel of Christianity.
11:08 AM on 03/15/2011
Just my opinion only, not saying I am right either.  Thou shall not k 1ll. Did God, k 1 ll Cain, when he k 1ll his brother Abel? NO. God's most sacred gift is LIFE. What ever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto ME. There is no more eye for an eye, or a tooth for a tooth.  IF there was, this world, would have no human beings left on it, you think?  And if HE came and in doing nothing wrong, laid down his life for all sinners, LIars,  mur *ers, those who steal, greed, that destroys life also, etc forgave us, oh my. forgive not, one denies also his own forgiveness, mercy. Do unto others what you would  want done unto you, and so it shall be done. HE laid down HIS life for us, we to did not deserve it, you think? Love all.
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timm553
In vino veritas
06:13 PM on 03/16/2011
God supposedly killed off the entire population of the world, excludding one family, at one point. That doesn't sound too loving to me.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
11:31 PM on 03/11/2011
Well religion has spent most of its history handing out death penalties, either through formal government action or through its evangelical proponents, e.g., the recent killing of an abortion doctor. Based on it history, Christianity and Islam and also the Jewish faith, clearly have not argument against the death penalty. Historically, the death penalty has been around and used quite liberally, so I would argue that humans do not see anything wrong with it.

All that being said, I would argue that perhaps it is time to eliminate the death penalty for the purely pragmatic reason that we have far too many innocents put on death row. Recent cases, using new DNA and other forensic tools, have shown that prosecutors have sent innocent people to death row.

At least by not using the death penalty, those on death row have some reasonable chance of perhaps being found innocent. The real problem is that we have a faulty legal system, not a justice system, where trials are conducted by very stringent rules of evidence and even prosecutors who are more than willing to circumvent fairness in order to get a conviction.
06:41 PM on 03/12/2011
"All that being said, I would argue that perhaps it is time to eliminate the death penalty for the purely pragmatic reason that we have far too many innocents put on death row. Recent cases, using new DNA and other forensic tools, have shown that prosecutor­s have sent innocent people to death row"

That is indeed the best argument against capital punishment, IMO. The problem, for me, is it means the State cannot impose justice on people who are clearly guilty because of concerns that some other person, currently unknown but to be tried at some future date, is innocent.

I am not willing to let people who are clearly guilty of the hook because in other cases a mistake might be make. We have a number of people on death row here in Connecticut. I have never seen any suggestion that any of them were not guilty of the crimes for which they were sentenced.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
07:25 PM on 03/12/2011
Well your statement contains the words "clearly guilty", most of the innocents on death row were "clearly guilty" too. That is the practical problem of determining innocence or guilt in our system. We have a legal system that plays that game, it is not important to the system that true innocence or guilt is actually determined, i.e., the truth of the matter, only that they are convicted within the framework of our legal system. Superficially the legal system is supposed to find the truth, but how many prosecutors and judges refuse to release an innocent from jail even in the face of overwhelming forensic evidence? That is the problem as I see it.

Yes, I know of cases here in Washington State, one concerning a cop-killer, where there is no doubt on the guy, but still I am concerned. How exactly do you distinguish these clear cut cases from the gray areas, that is what worries me.

Supposedly, juries are supposed to convict on the basis of no reasonable doubt. However, that doesn't always play well in certain parts of the country when the defendant is of another race or ethnic group. In theory trials are supposed to be fair, but are they in reality? Human nature being what it is, I doubt that. Humans all have biases toward other people and it is almost impossible to rule that out.
11:24 PM on 03/12/2011
"...we have a faulty legal system..."

That is an understatement.
When a legal system judges 'murder' as illegal...... depending on who does it, that is not a legal
system at all. Its a system of appeasement.
If murder is illegal, it is illegal. It can't be both legal and illegal.
But then, we're a country that loves to fly in the face of reason... and get by with it.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
04:32 PM on 03/13/2011
A point of difference if you please. There is murder and then there is killing, an important distinction. Murder has a definition in the legal system, and even in a justice system.

While, I think our legal system is faulty, I wouldn't be complaining too much. Most other countries have systems just about as bad.
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Jradxit
Faithless morality over baseless faith
11:06 PM on 03/11/2011
To paraphrase the bible: "Kill when the lord commands you and the righteous will defeat the wicked. It is a sin to kill. Smote thine enemies. Turn the other cheek. The punishment for blasphemy shall be death. Those without sin cast the first stone." Simple, can't these people read?
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Nel Pineda
09:06 PM on 03/11/2011
Killing is wrong. A convicted person should be considered defenseless and if we kill him while in jail, we in essence violated one of the commandments.
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RedRat
Ignorance is fixable, stupidty is forever
11:32 PM on 03/11/2011
Don't rely on the 10 Commandments as a defense. That "thou shalt not kill" is riddled with loopholes, it looks like swiss cheese.
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05:13 AM on 03/12/2011
Nel:

The Commandament is best translated as thou shalt not murder or thou shall not commit an illicit kiling. This has been well known for many millenia.

Saint (& Pope) Pius V, "The just use of (executions), far from involving the crime of murder, is an act of paramount obedience to this (Fifth) Commandment which prohibits murder." "The Roman Catechism of the Council of Trent" (1566).

All interpretations, contrary to the biblical support of capital punishment, are false. Interpreters ought to listen to the Bible’s own agenda, rather than to squeeze from it implications for their own agenda. As the ancient rabbis taught, “Do not seek to be more righteous than your Creator.” (Ecclesiastes Rabbah 7.33.). Part of Synopsis of Professor Lloyd R. Bailey’s book Capital Punishment: What the Bible Says, Abingdon Press, 1987.

OT: God: "You shall not accept indemnity in place of the life of a murderer who deserves the death penalty; he must be put to death." Numbers 35:31 (NAB)
full context www.usccb.org/nab/bible/numbers/numbers35.htm




God/Jesus: 'Honor your father and your mother,' and 'Whoever curses father or mother must certainly be put to death.' Matthew 15:4. full context - Jesus used this reference to condemn the Pharisees for their intentional misinterpretation of God's Word, emphasizing that the Truth of God's Word must be enforced, which is precisely what He was doing with this well known passage. www.newadvent.org/bible/mat015.htm
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Nel Pineda
10:26 PM on 03/13/2011
Your talking to the wrong person when it comes with religion. I prefer humanity and our common interests to do good. I hate religion. period. I'm faithful but not religious. Religion cannot and will not save anyone...only faith does.
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08:31 PM on 03/11/2011
I can imagine how a Christian can even contemplate any answer other than 'Hell No - it's not right'.
If this isn't clear then just what are the teachings of Christ good for?
06:42 PM on 03/12/2011
You have got to be kidding! Christian squeamishness over the death penalty is largely a very recent phenomenon.
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
07:45 PM on 03/11/2011
The Bible is quite full of statements favorable to the death penalty. Of the Ten Commandments, attached to nine of them is the death penalty for violation of them.

And of course, fundamentalists *want* to erect the Ten Commandments all over the place!

Even in the New Testament, the death penalty is approved of. Government is seen as "bearing the sword," and of course, when Jesus returns to conquer his enemies, rivers of blood flow.

But then, Jesus said to the Pharisees bringing a woman accused of adultery to him, "Let him that is without sin among you cast the first stone." He did not condemn the woman. He simply urged her to "go and sin no more."

In today's world we are finding incredibly sloppy police and forensics work, and people who are innocent of the crimes against them sentenced to death. Legislators in Texas do not want to let people on death row have access to forensic testing to prove their innocence. We have certainly killed many innocent people in the name of justice.

I am against the death penalty. I admit to getting pretty angry at some people (like Scott Walker), and almost -- almost -- wishing .... But I believe that we are not God and cannot know everything about a situation. At worst, life imprisonment is a deterrence against further crime. The death penalty is applied in a racially discriminatory way and is associated with bad police work. Get rid of it.
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Talossa
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12:56 AM on 03/15/2011
> Of the Ten Commandmen­ts, attached to nine of them is the death penalty for violation of them.

Just to verify -- where do you see a death penalty attached to these?
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
03:05 AM on 03/15/2011
In no particular order:
"Thou shalt not commit adultery." See Lev. 20:10 and 21:9. Leviticus 18.

"Thou shalt not murder." See Exodus 21:14. Unless, of course, the one you kill is your own slave, in which case you have just lost your money. Exodus 21:20-21

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image -- Ex. 30:38 is not quite that. It is using the formula for a holy perfume for personal use. Nevertheless it is much the same kind of offense as a graven image -- thinking one can contain or manipulate God for one's own purposes. Also, the consequences of making a graven image, Exodus 32. Another example is eating the fat of an offering. Lev 7:22-25.

Thou shalt have no other gods before me. See Exodus 32. Also Leviticus 17. Lev. 20:1-3, 27. Deut. 13.

Taking the name of the Lord in vain. Lev. 24:10-17

Keeping the Sabbath Day: Exodus 31:13-15. Exodus 35:1-3. Numbers 15:32-36.

Thou shalt not steal. Several passages: Leviticus 6:1-5 - 20% penalty. Exodus 22 - a 400% penalty or a 100% penalty, depending. Lev. 21:16 Kidnapping a death penalty offense.

Lying in court could get a death sentence: Deut 19:16-21

Thou shalt not covet. Note Numbers 11, a result of complaining, coveting good food (as in meat). The Lord used a plague.

Honor your father and mother. Lev. 20:9, Deut. 21:18-21.

I'd had a complete list at one time. This is a start.