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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: January 12, 2010 05:40 AM

An Invitation to the Tea Parties to Join the Fight

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The Wall Street Journal writes today about how the tea party movement might be turning on Wall Street. I don't really believe it, but I'm excited by the possibility. Could the tea party guys actually be legitimate? Well, there is one way they can prove it.

I've made a lot of fun of the tea party people on our show. The main reason is that I think they're being led around the nose by corporate interests while mistakenly believing they're fighting the powers that be. They're being used as tools by the same exact people they think they are battling against, i.e. the elites that screw over the little guy.

But now, I'd like to change course and welcome them in. I believe portions of the movement are redeemable (we'll find out soon enough if I'm smoking crack on this one). Yes, some of them are full-blown crazy with their birther theories and lunatic signs about holocausts and fascism. A lot of them are actually mad because they think they have lost their privileged position in the country (hence, the cries of "I want my country back"). But many of them are populists that have simply been led in the wrong direction.

I'm going to be so bold as to say they can work with us. And we can work with them. But they have to do something first -- prove they are not tools of the wealthiest and most powerful people in the country. Fight the banks!

See, here's my theory. The people who fund the tea-parties (their buses, websites, signs and yes even their donuts) have absolutely no interest in fighting the banks. They have no interest in pointing out that the banks took massive amount of taxpayer money through TARP, AIG backdoor bailouts and secret Fed loans. When it comes to protecting health care companies, they're in. When it comes to fighting the government if it tries to help the poor and middle class, they're in. But if you challenge corporate America, they're out, way out. No interest.

But those are the right-wing groups funding these efforts, not the actual people in the protests. The right-wing groups are not redeemable. And the tea party protestors can mark my words. Those conservative organizations will never lead a protest of the big banks that took government money. You watch. And when you see I'm right, then see if you're ready to answer my challenge.

I issue a challenge to the tea-party movement. If you're true to your word, and you believe in protecting the American people and principles, and you think government is too big and hands out money to the wrong people, then join us in fighting against the biggest giveaway to biggest culprits. Fight the power of the banks with us.

Don't listen to your leaders that tell you that liberals aren't capitalists. That's nonsense. We're the real capitalists. Just like you, we don't think the government should be in the business of handing out taxpayer money to people who didn't earn it. And if you're against handing out government money, you certainly have to be against giving that money to the richest people in the country and the ones that caused the economic collapse in the first place. You're not a sucker, are you? Why would you want to give away your money to those people?

The bank executives who are responsible for our terrible recession are about to walk away with record setting bonuses. Where did they get that money in these tough economic times? From you! They picked your pocket.

You know who helped them do it? George W. Bush and Hank Paulson. But also Tim Geithner and Barack Obama. I told you we agreed. See, I wasn't kidding. Hey, why don't you ask your organizers who have been so busy protecting private insurance companies how come they never organize any protests against Tim Geithner? Wouldn't he be a natural target as the Treasury Secretary when the economy is in recession and the banks are getting away with billions? Have you ever wondered why those well-funded tea party organization websites never have buses going to protest at Wall Street or the Treasury Department?

Join us. We can build a real populist movement that isn't funded by corporate America. That actually cares about the American people and throws the crooks out on their ass. That fights the elites who have captured the government and turned it into their own private piggy bank.

Or don't join us, just as long as you fight in the right direction. Prove you're legit. Fight against the banks that are about to take all of our money home in bonuses for themselves. You fight them from the right. We'll fight them from the left. And we'll meet you in the middle. The real middle of the country that is tired of being run over by the big and powerful interests in Washington and Wall Street.

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07:09 PM on 01/20/2010
As an early participant of the Tea Party groups which grew out of the Meet Ups inspired by Ron Paul's candidacy, I think the publicized impressions lead people to believe that the core constituency is composed of people who put political parties before their own principles. If my impression is wrong, there are many of my fellow participants who are also wrong because most of us (in the only area I'm familiar with) are either card carrying Libertarians or libertarian leaning citizens who vote for the candidate most likely to abide by their oath of office to honor, preserve and protect the constitution. Specifically --
If elected, to limit their efforts to those authorized in Article One, Section Eight.
Most of us agree substantially with Congressman Ron Paul's views that we need to eliminate corporatism and all the ills related to it.
To audit the FED and expose it's favoritism.
To stop trying to force our society on other nations against their will.
To bring all our troops home and concentrate our military spending on defensive power.
To make business responsible for the consequences of it's actions - punish fraud.
To let profitable business' buy the assets of those that fail and create new capital honestly.
I believe that includes a good many things that Cenk uniformly advocates.
07:37 PM on 01/17/2010
There is an old military saying: "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."
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04:48 PM on 01/13/2010
"I'll leave the light on for ya...." ~Ms Liberty
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10:27 AM on 01/13/2010
It's interesting that both extremes of the left and right are reaching the same pessimistic conclusions.

Both political parties are clearly in the pocket of Corporate America (and actually have been for some time now). If the right-wing "crazies" ever gained enough sense to realize that their concerns are better addressed by progressive solutions, there might be actual political reform in the U.S.

While the articulation of the Tea Party movement is risable, the underlying suffering upon which it is based is very real.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A&NR=1

The divide and conquer strategy of the powers that be keeps the ignorant from truly understanding the basis of their anger and results in such ridiculous petitions as "keep your government hands off my Medicare".

If the underlying populist rage were to be properly defined and addressed and members of the so-called Tea Party movement were somehow educated and subsumed by progressives, there would be a true castration of the present system of blind corporatist government.

Tapping into that rage can be a very powerful tool. How to get the populist extremes of the left and right on point is a Herculean task, but one worth waging. The Huffington Post's continual effort to define the "left/right" paradigm as nonsense is definitely part of that task.
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12:10 PM on 01/13/2010
Excellent point and well said. The challenge of that path is commensurate with the rewards. And this site is one that's making some intelligent progress there.
02:58 PM on 01/13/2010
You people have really missed the boat - we're way ahead of you already !!!
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09:07 AM on 01/13/2010
The problem with this is you're inviting fire bugs to a barn raising. They might be handy for clearing the old buildings but there's no way they're any good for building new ones. They're just going to go right on setting fires.
02:56 PM on 01/13/2010
When's the last time you got your hands dirty building anything ???
10:23 PM on 01/12/2010
I see my point is pretty much made above, but I wanted to say it myself.
I wouldn't mind this for one reason, it would pit the K Street organizers of the "grass roots" tea party against those they are manipulating.
That said, these people are told it's the Obama Bailout, despite the fact he inherited it from Bush the 2nd, and then they run out and paint signs demonstrating how disconnected from reality they are.
I'd argue that trying to call on tea partiers to go after those who do steal their money -- the monied GOP -- is a bad idea. I agree with the populism a Tea Party should represent. The sad part is not only is the partiers' view of reality and outrage false, it is misdirected and a tool of the GOP leadership. And these people have fallen in line -- it seems to be what they do.
Really, are these the kind of people that will reform government for the good or for ill? Ally with them today for expediency and in the future we'll divide over the fact they can't accept the reality of Obama's citizenship.
Their character isn't deserving of anyone who is a true populist that wants our Republic to be more like it should be... To ally with them really only mirrors the behavior of DeLay and his ilk.
I do like the link about where the money for the donuts comes from... good stuff.
01:42 AM on 01/13/2010
Perhaps working with them and treating them with respect will open some minds to alternative points of view. Character isn't written in stone. I think that the challenges would be worth the reward of greater understanding.
02:52 PM on 01/13/2010
You talk like we're little puppy dogs or something - while you were all contemplating your navels and congratulating yourselves on your intellectualism - we were already out in the streets protesting the bailouts and getting our money out of the banks - you are the ones who are waaaaay behind on the issues !!!!
02:54 PM on 01/13/2010
Nobody tells us anything - we READ and THINK for ourselves !!! How's that stimulus working for ya ???
09:08 PM on 01/12/2010
The Alaskan princess is a teabagger. Have fun with your new leader.
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Bankerrkt
He's making things worse.
08:48 PM on 01/12/2010
"I've made a lot of fun of the tea party people on our show. " Oh how nice, you didn't insult them too much or call them teabaggers in your call for unity. Oh yeah, I'm sure they're going to join with you. The tea party movement that you and other liberals have belittled and written off will move right past you.
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01:01 AM on 01/13/2010
So where's their outrage and protests against the banks.
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08:37 AM on 01/13/2010
Cenk didn't write this for you, authoritarian follower. We already know you are hopelessly partisan on every issue.
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Bankerrkt
He's making things worse.
08:46 PM on 01/12/2010
"I've made a lot of fun of the tea party people on our show. " Oh how nice, you didn't insult them too much or call them teabaggers in your call for unity. Oh yeah, I'm sure they're going to join with you. The tea party movement that you and other liberals have belittled and written off will move right past you.
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08:39 PM on 01/12/2010
While I am totally for a grassroots driven campaign to reverse this rob ber baron on steroids environment, I do not like the rhetoric coming down that all this started on 01/20/09. Our nation's current situation has been decades of legislation and backroom deals in the making.

Younger people may not know it, but older people realize the powers that be will not tolerate being stood on end. This includes the Fed, DoD and other entities that are powerful beyond belief. To demand President Obama to bring down these entities is akin to sending him in alone to vanquish the entire m@fi@ organization. Impossible and only one outcome.

I believe President Obama is doing the best he can do in this toxic construct. A nation on the verge of financial collapse was not the right time nor place to implement radical changes in the finance world. Now that the situation is somewhat stable, we do need to pressure banks and corporations as an united front to save what is left of the middle class.
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08:02 PM on 01/12/2010
Even if we cannot see "eye to eye" with teabaggers there are millions and millions of Americans ready for a "NON-ALIGNED" political movement in this nation that recongnizes the futility of supporting either the Democratic or Republican Party for lasting change and solving our national problems

This movement could focus on POLITICAL REFORM and breaking up the stanglehold that financial institutions have on our government and its citizens.

Too Big to Fail Financial Institutions -- break them up -

Reinstate Glass-Stegall ACT

Repeal the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000

Repeal the Bankruptcy Bill of 2005 - that disadvantaged millions of average Americans

Criminal prosecutions for the worst offenders in banking crisis

Give direct support to homeowners who are "underwater" with their mortgages (not the overly limited plans the WHouse has instituted with very mediocre results)

Give left over "bailout" cash to local and community banks to lend to small business and homeowners

This agenda would capture the imagination of the public.
08:17 PM on 01/12/2010
I second that.
08:32 PM on 01/12/2010
I third it, and restate that it will only be possible by outlawing the "corporate personhood" claptrap that came from legal distortion herein:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Clara_County_v._Southern_Pacific_Railroad
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08:39 PM on 01/12/2010
Two of those don't meet right wing ideological stndards. PLUS you left out the most important ones: Campaign Finance Reform and strict rules against corporate lobbying.
07:06 PM on 01/12/2010
A true liberal would never "team up" with a "teabagger."
07:53 PM on 01/12/2010
Why some of these "liberals" seem to eager to team up with the teabaggers all of a sudden is beyond me. The only reason that teabaggers may appear to be anti-Wall Street is that they believe that the Obama administration is on Wall Street's side. If Obama announces his support for Sarah Palin - they will suddenly turn against her. These people are not about principles, they are about being anti-Obama.
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08:30 PM on 01/12/2010
Cenk's point was that they're not anti-Wall street ENOUGH, which sort of blasts your argument to pieces. They feel that they're losing ground as they should. It's a matter of trying to reach commonality on WHY that is, whic is not social programs, but rather globalization, the war machine and corporate comntrol of politics. Somewhere in there might be an opening.
08:00 PM on 01/12/2010
As one can see from the comments below, they won't have us anyway.
02:16 PM on 01/12/2010
Race is the chasm separating the Tea Party Movement from progressives.
02:32 PM on 01/12/2010
I think religion belongs there too.
04:35 PM on 01/12/2010
Nothing having to do with race and religion have anything to do with the tea parties' platforms.
08:13 PM on 01/12/2010
Actually, both are just flavors of what's called "Rankism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankism

Which itself is an outgrowth of general RWA concept of ingroups/outgroups:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism

BTW....some have tried to academically describe a certain "left-wing authoritarianism" but it's just really there:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism#Right_and_left

We are the left are the proverbial cats who refuse herding.
03:04 PM on 01/12/2010
Only because the CORPORATE MEDIA is trying to make it seem that way.

Can't have any competition, this Corporate Red/Blue party
03:59 PM on 01/12/2010
No, forty years ago, RMN launched a strategy to win white Democratic voters in the south who were unhappy with the gains made by blacks and minorities during the civil rights movement. Republicans have been riding that train ever since. While they would never admit it, it is what they do. Saint Ronny used to rail against the "welfare queens" and Bush the Elder used Willie Horton. I saw a political ad in the midwest a couple of years ago suggesting that Mexicans were pouring across the border to rape and kill Americans. Race relations have changed a lot in forty years but there are still substantial numbers of white people who are afraid and resentful. Many of them are in the Tea Party Movement. That's why so many of them believe in the birther conspiracy.
02:10 PM on 01/12/2010
I agree with Cenk. Like he said, one big obstacle is the fact that almost all teabaggers are funded by the same Big Money Republican phonies responsible for their plight, and money talks. Plus teabaggers are mostly conservatives driven by religion, high patriotism, fear of minorities, libertarian principles and knee-jerk hate of liberals.

Cenk's proposal has little chance of getting on the oligarchy's MSM, so most teabaggers will never hear it. Though it makes a lot of sense, it's going to be a hard row to hoe.
02:32 PM on 01/12/2010
It's good to see someone use the phrase "hard row to hoe" correctly. Many people say "hard road to hoe" which would be even harder than hoeing a row.
03:10 PM on 01/12/2010
LOL!! I will fan you just for that.
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05:53 PM on 01/12/2010
Yeah, but can he say it ten times fast? ;-))
04:40 PM on 01/12/2010
I'm wondering where my funding went? " the fact that almost all teabaggers are funded by the same Big Money Republican phonies responsible for their plight"

I'm still trying to figgure out where y'all see the progressives and the teabaggers having common ground.

The progressive wants to replace "big corporations" with big government. As "bad" as corporate is government is a 100 times worse. In the real world bad business go away, bad government just gets bigger. The bailouts were juat an excuse to make big corp big government. Bad business needs to go broke and go away.
I see no common ground, sorry
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05:51 PM on 01/12/2010
Did you like the bank bailouts? No? Well, that was what happens when corporate interest buys the government. I think the missing link here it the understanding that big business now is (owns) the government. Can you agree on that? If that is the case, why all of the concern about someone getting a crumb of government funding for something like education or health care when the mega corps have stolen the whole bakery just to fatten already huge profits?? Your kids will be paying off that debt for the rest of their lives and be provided nothing in return. We won't get a better educated or healthier or even happier society of that money. Just a handful of jackasses ruling the world because they bought it...with your money.

How can anyone possibly be upset about someone on welfare and not be insane about the banks stealing 700 billion of our tax money?

Heres one more: If the real issue to the Tea baggers is the debt, where is uproar about expanding the war? It will cost multiple times what health care would but not a single word from the baggers on it.
10:35 PM on 01/12/2010
Wrong -- not this progressive. And that close mindedness is why I can't take you seriously, even though we both agree that the government that governs best governs least...
01:53 PM on 01/12/2010
The only way those groups come together is if the far left atheists can stop calling for the abolition of religion and the far right religious can accept a diverse America.

After that there's probably a large overlap where us little guys can relate.
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02:59 PM on 01/12/2010
Excuse me? When did atheists ever ask for anything except equal protection under the laws - it's only organized religion that seeks to impose its own precepts and practices on the rest of us.
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09:38 AM on 01/13/2010
Exactly! Fanned
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03:17 PM on 01/12/2010
In addition, you're mistaken to think that atheists are "far left" - we're as diverse as those folks who belong to a recognized, organized religion. And I've never personally heard of an atheist calling for the abolition of religion. We'd like to see a real separation of church and state as laid out in our founding documents - and we'd like society to give atheists a chance at holding national public office. If you can, please name me one self-proclaimed atheist serving in either Congress or the Senate. I'd appreciate it.