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As everyone is concentrating on the loathsome things that Rev. Hagee has said about New Orleans, or gay people, or Muslims, or Catholics, his more radical views on the poor and his encouragement of violence in Christianity has been overlooked.
Get a load of the hateful things Reverend Hagee had to say on those issues in the video below:
I call this a hate sermon by Reverend Hagee. I'm not sure what else you can call it when they guy is shouting maniacally at poor people to "Starve!" and encouraging others to die before they compromise on (Hagee's view of) Christianity.
This is the man John McCain is proud to be endorsed by? And we're having conversation about Rev. Wright while this is out there? Obama has repudiated Wright. Will McCain give a similar 45 minute speech explaining his relationship to hateful evangelical preachers like Rev. Hagee? I'm waiting.
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The reason Hagee's church is "non-denominational" is that no denomination will have him. While he was an Assembly of God pastor thirty years ago, he diddled a congregant (why anybody would sleep with such a repulsive man is beyond me). When the you-know-what hit the fan (along with other dealings), he was not only kicked out of that particular congregation, he was defrocked. Rather than go away quietly and look for a different career, he got divorced, married the mistress, and started Cornerstone, where ever since he has been condemning divorced people in his sermons. Btw, his doctoral degrees are honorary, from universites that he contributed money to. Recently Cornerstone School made the news in San Antonio because Hagee had unsucessfully tried to sue his way into the UIL (athletic and academic league for public schools in Texas). He wants to win a basketball championship really badly (something on his check list before he unleashes Armageddon), but his teams have no league to play in since the private school league dismissed them due to Hagee's recruiting practices. Basically, he flew in teenaged basketball pros and semi-pros from foreign countries and passed them off as students. Hagee claimed the denial of UIL membership violated the First Amendment; supposedly it's religious discrimination if his boys aren't allowed to play basketball against public schools. Didn't fly with the judge.
Not only is he a hate-monger and dangerous nut job, but he is also a hypocrite and a crook.
What is so important and tragic about this McCain/Hagee relationship, is that GW Bush killed Iraqis talking to Hagee's God, and now McCain wants to kill Iranians with Hagee's blessings.
What's even more important and tragic is that Hagee thinks that McCain is the candidate who will make his dreams come true.
I have no problems with anyone who wants to believe in Jesus, Allah, Yawee, or the easter bunny, but I believe that religion as an organized entity is evil. Religion is not GOD. Going to chuch doesn't make you a chrsitina any more than going to the garage makes you a car.
I listen to The Young Turks every day and Cenk always cuts to the heart of it.
NOW, EVERY time you hear Obama/Wright mentioned anywhere, you write to them and DEMAND that they start being balanced and DEMAND that they ask McCain to explain these statements and to "reject and denounce" him, etc.
Look at all they have demanded of Obama. They should do the same to McCain.
EWWWWWWW
Hagee is simply odious!
I've never heard anything that hateful in my own church and don't ever want to.
Hagee is one of the most loathesome, repulsive, and dangerous people in America today.
There is a lengthy article in today's New York Times discussing the Hagee-McCain connection. It discusses some but by no means all of Hagee's activities. Here is the link:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/opinion/04rich.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
Why would you give any creedence to comments by ANY religious leaders.
These are people who seek to control the masses by spewing out fantasies from the pulpit each week. Immaculate conceptions, burning bushes, 72 virgins or is it 72 raisins.
It is all Fairy tales and only serves to distract us from the current and very real human dramas being played out each day that demand our attention.
Religion has NO place in government.
NO ONE CARES!
Maybe if Hagee wore a dashiki and McCain got a deep tan people will care but the white preacher and the white war hero? Not a chance. It's not the MSM's job to do fair and accurate reporting on both sides of the issues. Their job is to get ratings for their corporate overlords and nothing gets white folks glued to their tv sets like "the angry black man" come to turn the white house into a black panther party.
It's like the propaganda department that fed BS to army officials and had those officials pump that propaganda into our homes thanks to the MSM. Doing that story goes against their interests so why do it? What's in it for them? What's in it for their masters and overlords but lower ratings and culpability? What's the incentive supposed to be. To seek and deliver the unbiased truth to the masses, so they can make an informed opinion on who would be the best president for America? Where's the money in that?
“Anyone who had the misfortune of watching it will know how hard it is to do the Lord’s work in the city of Satan”
Jeremiah Wright?
No.
JOHN MCCAIN!
Exactly who is John McCain?
Hey, Hagee ain't a "mad" black guy.
What Hagee said about laziness and poverty is found in many verses in the bible.
Here are two:
Proverbs 19:15 (NKJV)
Laziness casts one into a deep sleep, And an idle person will suffer hunger.
Proverbs 28:19 (NKJV)
He who tills his land will have plenty of bread, But he who follows frivolity will have poverty enough!
I agree that if you are indeed lazy then you should not be rewarded.
However like rev. Wright, Hagee pushes the two commandments (first love God with everything you have got then love your neighbor as yourself) to the extreme.
Are you assuming poor people are lazy? (Which is, and has been, the platform of the Republican Party for half a century). The Bible was cooperatively written during agrarian times. We now have 6 Billion people in the world and not enough food and water. Even if some people (like almost everyone living in this country) were not wasteful, we STILL would not have enough food and water.
Poverty, in modern times, has much more to do with geography, topography, lack of opportunity, and de jure injustice than laziness.
And even if it didn't, anyone who would allow his fellow man, woman, or child to starve for the purpose of proving a point has a heart full of hate. Jesus was not a man of hate. How would he view a sermon such as this?
And your comparison of Hagee to Wright is beyond offensive. Show me one quote where Wright advocated death by famine as punishment. The United Church of Christ is philanthropic and committed to serving the poor.
In summary, when you start quoting Bible passages in an effort to defend this point of view, you reveal a myopic world view and a sophomoric understanding of Jesus.
There's something deeply disturbing about a "man of God" shouting "STARVE!"
My point is that the bible can be used to show good and evil.
Whenever I find a scripture that seems to contradict God's love, I always go back to the passage where Jesus and the devil locked horns in the wilderness for 40 days.
It is in that passage that we see the devil (extreme evil)accurately quote scripture to prove his point and Jesus (extreme good) accurately quote scripture to counter the devil's points.
Example: Matthew 4:5
Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written: 'He shall give His angels charge over you,' and, 'In their hands they shall bear you up,Lest you dash your foot against a stone.' "
Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the Lord your God.' "
This why I have a problem with preachers who damn others before putting God's love first. Even though what they are saying is technically true.
I wonder if this chirstian 'fatwa' pertains to 'trust fund' babies who toil not but are richly rewarded. The sooner we move past these useless bible fables the better off humanity will be.
Okay, lets round up those lazy senoirs - off to the work camps!
And those child labor laws - roll them back too-
Rev. Hagee has larger geo-political aims than using hunger as a weapon. Readers might be interested in Rev. Hagee's book on the coming Armageddon. Check it out at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Jerusalem-Countdown-John-Hagee/dp/1591858933
Note the mushroom cloud on the cover.
I think Hagee is confused: it was not Jesus who said "he who does not work, does not eat." It was Stalin. Rather, "when you did this for the least of my breathren, you did this for me." Or James saying that it is not enough to tell someone to eat and be warm if you do not provide her/him with the essentials of life.
The old news items below are why the McCain/Hagee connection cannot be swept aside. Both GW Bush and Osama bin-Laden killed because God ordered and blessed them.
BBC’
President George W Bush told Palestinian ministers that God had told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq - and create a Palestinian State, a new BBC series reveals.
So now we know. After all the mountains of commentary and speculation, all the earnest debates over motives and goals, all the detailed analyses of global strategy and political ideology, it all comes to down to this: George W. Bush waged war on Iraq because, in his own words, God "instructed me to strike at Saddam."
Then recall that, on June 4, 2003, President George W. Bush confided to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas: "God told me to strike at Al Qaeda and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."
‘I am driven with a mission from God’. God would tell me, ‘George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan’. And I did. And then God would tell me ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq’. And I did. And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, ‘Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East’. And, by God, I’m gonna do it.
The McCain/Hagee parternship is clearly the most dangerous for living beings here on this planet.
McCain's buddies in the main stream media will not even play this once. If this does get played it will not be to the extent that Rev. Wright’s comments were aired. Remember MSM didn't ask the Pope why he shelters Cardinal Bernard Law. MSM didn't ask the Pope why he continues to say that the pedophilia priests are "the American problem." MSM didn't ask a single catholic journalist or catholic politician why they would stay members of the catholic church - an institution that shelters pedophiles.
MSM has not hounded McCain about other comments that Rev. Hagee has which are deplorable and MSM is not going to press McCain on his seeking the support of Rev. Hagee.
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