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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: December 15, 2010 10:43 AM

You want to hear something really depressing? If John McCain had won the presidency, there is almost no chance he could have gotten the Bush tax cuts extended for the rich. Think about it. How was a Republican president going to get an overwhelmingly Democratic Senate and House to pass those tax cuts that they hated under Bush?

No, only a Democratic president could get a Democratic Congress to agree to tax cuts for the rich. So, in this sense, progressives are worse off for having a Democratic president than a Republican one.

Then, at least we would have known who we were fighting. Remember, Bush could barely, barely get these same tax cuts passed when the Republicans controlled both the Senate and the House!

Funny how the rich and powerful win no matter who is in charge and what party they claim to be from. And think about how much the political spectrum has shifted to the right that Bush had to use reconciliation and then barely got the tax cut through a Republican Congress whereas now a Senate with basically 59 Democrats just passed the same tax cuts with ease. Washington has fallen off a right-wing cliff and the media hardly noticed.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said this about the estate tax provision:

We had the president -- George W. Bush -- we couldn't get it done then and we're getting it done here.

Ouch. Their victory is so overwhelming that the Republicans are brazenly bragging about how they couldn't even get Bush to do what Obama has done for them.

Finally, you have to ask why Democrats who were willing to fight Bush are crumbling in front of Obama? He claims to be the leader of your party, but honestly who cares? If he is doing the exact opposite of what you claim to stand for, why does it matter what he calls himself?

Democrats would certainly have fought a surge in Afghanistan if Bush was in charge. They would be complaining about warrantless wiretapping if Bush continued that program instead of Obama. They would have hated the monopoly that drug companies got in the health care legislation (because they went nuts over it when Bush made the same deal). And they would have gone apoplectic over these huge tax cuts for the rich. But under Obama, the defense contractors, the rich and the powerful have gotten almost everything they wanted and nary a peep was heard from the Democrats in Congress.

Here is the new memo -- fight him, he's not on your side.

When I asked Rep. Jim McDermott some of these questions last night, he seemed at a loss for what to do next. You can feel his frustration and confusion as to how we got here with a Democratic president. Here are some of his quotes:

Well, I think a lot of us are, in the caucus, we're not quite sure why this is happening. It doesn't make political sense what he did, and it doesn't make economic sense.
I think that we are in serious trouble because the president simply does not seem willing to go after some things that I think he's going to have to if he's going to get anything done for the people of this country. He simply has, in my view, given up the willingness to fight for economic justice in this country.
I think it's going to take us a while to get over what's happened here, and I really think... it is very hard to think how you're going to deal with the next round here, because the president has now shown that he can be bullied, and I don't want my president to be bullied.
And I think he... we would be all much better if we were able to say, you know, that we're not going to back down, and that there's no excuse for us giving up like this. I mean, that's the hard part for me, is that it's giving up without a fight.
[W]hen you start giving in on the kinds of things he's giving in on, you really worry that there is no way back from that. And I'm, I mean, that's why I said it was... this was Gettysburg, because it really is... that was the turning point in the war. And it really is a question of how you continue to rally your troops if you keep giving in on things that people really care about.

Until you get to a point where you're not sure he has the same idea of what "people really care about." He might have a different idea, a Republican idea. Or at the very least, a Washington idea of what people care about -- so-called centrist compromises that somehow always benefit the establishment.

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read matt taibbi
Neither left, nor right. Forward!
01:38 AM on 01/12/2011
The tax cuts extension was a major debacle that will come back to haunt us.

Running large deficits places undue burden on the poorer classes through inflation.
Taxing the wealthy was the best way of paying for our government's services.

There is no way we can get vibrant economy with this kind of income inequality.
The poor don't have money to spend and the rich park theirs in gold or foreign stocks.
Why invest in the US when they can get higher return in Brazil?

I am hoping that Dean, Sanders or Feingold will mount a primary challenge.
10:09 PM on 01/05/2011
During the 2008 election I paid the obama (yes lower case spelling) campaign money for 1 sign and 2 shirts, one for me and one for the now ex-wife. I received 1 sign, no shirts, no refunds, and a rude attitude from a staffer when I inquired for a refund. It was then when I first got a sense of barak obama. My initial insight tho suppressed by my 'hope' and excitement has proven to be 100% correct. He is a lying crook and I am tempted to vote republican out of spite for his two faced hypocritical lies. My speech may not be as eloquent as most of yours but I know a crook and this man has had a chance to prove himself and has not. I will NEVER be fooled again by this man.
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maserati2
Finally an honest politician! ELIZABETH WARREN!
01:16 AM on 01/12/2011
#1.
11:07 AM on 12/27/2010
The mainstream media in America article fails to disclose how gigantic tax breaks for incomes greater than $250,000 per year increase federal deficits, federal debt, and the cost of such federal debt to all taxpayers. The media especially fails to disclose the half-trillion dollars of annual federal welfare for the rich that the wealthy and corporate elite have been enjoying for decades that should be cut to keep social security solvent and to eliminate taxes on income needed for a basic decent standard of living. That annual half-trillion dollars of government welfare for the rich does NOT include the loss of tax revenue from tax cuts for the rich that could quickly pay off the federal debt and balance the federal budget, especially the avoidance of taxes on offshore income by the American wealthy and corporate elite. Where are the protest signs at every political rally and town hall that should read "Protect Social Security" , Protect Medicare", "Stop Taxing Income Needed to Live & Learn", Take the Rich Off Government Welfare", and "Stop Defense Budget Waste & Fraud"? Where are the members of Congress to correct this injustice. They are all absent especially since the whole truth is absent from most reporting made by the Fourth Estate except for MSNBC and progressive writers and magazines.
12:00 AM on 12/20/2010
Too many Americans seek nothing more than to survive comfortably. And, with that attitude, we grow more imperiled by the day
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BetteB
02:21 PM on 12/18/2010
Unfortunately it is getting clearer each day that the entire political system is infected by greed, it is broken. Bush and Obama are the same people just coming at US from opposite ends, but for the same means. They mean to make this country only profitable to the Federal Reserve Bank families interests, and the rest of US can just beg. We are or have become CITIZENS UNITED States of America now. We best wrestle with this alligator if we are going to clean up this swamp.
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read matt taibbi
Neither left, nor right. Forward!
01:42 AM on 01/12/2011
Indeed.

The Fed is but a sugar daddy for big multi-national corporations.
It should spend its made-up money on America's middle class,
not on the banks (including foreign) which made stupid decisions.
01:33 PM on 12/18/2010
(cont.)

In the early days of WWII, FDR spoke to the American people time and time again to enlighten them to the danger the Axis powers were to us, and to explain that the two oceans were no longer enough to keep the war from reaching us. FDR thought up the Lend-Lease program to help the battered Brits and Russians by enabling them to have access to the weapons they needed to fight back against the Nazis -- and give us needed time to build up our military and industrial might. And then he explained to the American people in easy-to-understand language his reasons for aiding the Brits and Russians.

FDR did not just lie down and whine -- as Obama does -- that we were "outnumbered" by the enemy, he used the power and bully pulpit of the presidency to bring the American people to understand the reality of World War II.
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marijam
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12:10 PM on 12/17/2010
Which is exactly why the Republicans registered as democrats and stopped Hillary from becoming the nominee. Face it, the think tanks are always 12 moves ahead of us.
02:10 PM on 12/16/2010
This is a 'poison pill' Cenk. And it gets even worse. I never would have thought that a Democratic President would actually be the one to begin dismantling the New Deal legislation that has been our safety net. Here's a point I never hear discussed; Social Security and Medicare are BOTH insurance programs. NOT 'entitlements'. THAT was it's genius. We PAY into the system until we need it. Then we 'get it back'. The idea that President Obama has managed to actually 'do' stuff a Republican couldn't appalls me. A 'red flag' that the Obama Administration has ignored; they are ecstatic over his 'deal'. And to add insult to injury, his Congressional base DOESN'T like it! That says it all, doesn't it? Will they stick to their principles? I HOPE they do! Will they? I doubt it!
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LibRule
So how did that one-term thingy work for you?
03:32 PM on 12/16/2010
Many people, like myself, have paid into unemployment insurance their whole lives and never drawn it. They can certainly use my share!
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06:26 PM on 12/16/2010
In Missouri and I think that most of states in the country; the employer pays the unemployment insurance 100%. The worker makes no contribution into the unemployment insurance. Check your facts; the only deductions on your paycheck is Federal Withholding, Medicare and Social Security.
11:33 AM on 12/17/2010
In Every state the employer pays unemploy­ment insurance.­... It's just a progressive­e, left-wing spin.. That the employee pays into unemployment insurance
01:37 PM on 12/16/2010
time, it has been time since 2009 you are 1 year late! The health care sham showed his true colors but you and the rest of obama lovers still had hope.
12:03 PM on 12/16/2010
The first three paragraphs are oh so painfully right. For those of us who were calling Obama Bush Lite during the campaign in 2008 it is way past time for the rest of Obama's supporters (yes I did vote for Obama though with distaste) to begin to see that he is not a liberal, he is Chicago's version of a Blue Dog, maybe these days Red Dog would be the better appellation for DINOs.

It is easier to fight the enemy at the gate than the enemy already within the walls.

When there was that chance that Wallace would get the nomination to run against Nixon, I would have voted for Wallace, he was at least honest about what he stood for, Nixon was a weasel.
The country could possibly have faced a Wallace presidency down on his more flagrant racist stands. Nixon worked in the dark all the time, and that is harder to recognize, confront and over come.
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LibRule
So how did that one-term thingy work for you?
03:31 PM on 12/16/2010
I REALLY don't like Obama doing this- but I think calling him a Blue Dog is oversimplification. He isn't so easily categorized. a blue dog would not have supported health care reform at all, and while we didn't get the public option we wanted, at least we are moving in the right direction. I can only hope the Conservative courts win and the mandatory insurance is unconstitutional- that is nothing but a huge gift to insurance companies and I can't believe they are tolerating the Republicans fighting it. It gets funnier and funnier. But I am horrified that inheritance tax is on the table, as well as tax cuts for the rich. And if Obama was going to cave on these, why did he not hold out for the 2 years of unemplyment that he is giving them in tax cuts?
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sandracoston
02:37 PM on 12/17/2010
Thank you for a reasonable voice in a sea of noise... I am so tired of both the far left and the far right. I thought I was pretty far to the left now I am more than happy to be in the middle... because both sides will never be truly satisfied...
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libwithaclue
GOPers taste like chicken and smell like......
11:09 AM on 12/16/2010
No, unless you want to elect a GOPer as the next POTUS in 2012. It's time to fall in line. If he get's reelected, he'll have the flexibility to do some progressive things. That is unfortunately the way our electoral process works. Democrats eating their own is a sure way to weaken the president and bring disaster upon the country in the form of a Pres Romney or a Pres Thune or worse.
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12:09 PM on 12/16/2010
That's the Democratic party line, unfortunately: Elect us because putting Republicans in office would be worse, no matter how bad we are. "Falling in line," as you urge, is the reason Obama is getting his poison-pill tax cut deal passed: A number of Congressional Democrats stood up against it, but most of them sat down again out of party loyalty. As long as politicians from both parties put loyalty to their own parties ahead of the country's best interests, neither of them is fundamentally better than the other.

As for the "flexibility" you claim Obama will have to do some progressive things if he's re-elected--he had at least some of that flexibility after he was elected, and he didn't use it. What makes you think he would suddenly champion progressive causes just because he won another election?
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libwithaclue
GOPers taste like chicken and smell like......
12:44 PM on 12/16/2010
If you want to elect a GOPer, just campaign for Mittens. You can whine about Obama all you want, there is NO other democrat who will win the presidency in 2012. That candidate just doesn't exist. And answer me a question: What would have happened to all those unemployed people whose benefits were running out, if the president didn't make this deal? Were you going to reach into your pockets and help them out? So called progressives should turn in there badge if they would have left those people behind just for the sake of ideological purity. You people are as bad as the thugliKKKlans.
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JimR
02:58 PM on 12/16/2010
"he had at least some of that flexibilit­y after he was elected,"

With all the Blue Dogs in Congress? I don't think so.
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jmpurser
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09:40 AM on 12/16/2010
No.  It is NOT time for "Democrats" to fight Obama.  Obama is CLEARLY what the Democratic party has been working towards for at least 20 years.  We have an avowed corporatist who thinks Reagan and the Right are correct in all economic matters as well as on many social issues.  Obama, like the Democratic leadership, fundamentally despises the Left, their principles, and their goals.  He and they implicitly understand they work for the "real people" of America which means the wealthy.

It IS time, in fact decades PAST time, for anyone to the Left of REAGAN to ask themselves why they still consider themselves to be a "Democrat".  Are you REALLY for corporate welfare?  When you thought about "Health Care Reform" was the picture you got one of the IRS hunting down Americans who DARED to not buy commercial health insurance?  Really?  On civil rights are you in favor of second class citizen ship for gays, warrentless wire taps, immunity for companies that violate your privacy, and an extended "Patriot act"?  Really?  Are you for MORE pointless, endless wars?

If you're NOT for those things WHY are you still voting for Democrats?  And don't tell me about the "good" democrats.  Weiner?  Pro-Israel no matter how many Americans and Palestinians they murder.  Grayson?  Anti-Net Neutrality.  Franken?  Tax cuts for billionairs is okey dokey with him!  Kucinich?  You mean the guy who caved on Health Care reform "for the good of the party"?
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10:36 AM on 12/16/2010
That last phrase says it all: "for the good of the party." As long as Democrats care more about their party than about their constituents, they're little better, if any at all, than the Republicans.

The two-and-only political parties are in the business of seeing to it that no other party gets into power, ever. To that end, the Democrats, especially our craven President, would rather "compromise with" (i.e., surrender to) the Republicans than introduce or vote for legislation that would relieve the suffering inflicted by decades of relentless corporatist pandering, their only excuse being that Republicans would do even worse. Their ONLY selling point is that they're the lesser of two evils, and apparently that's all they ever aspire to be.

No Democrat ever raises the issue that "the good of the party(ies)" and "what's good for the country" are not at all the same thing and have not been for a long time.
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Gambare
A Deep South Liberal. As it should be.
07:32 AM on 12/16/2010
McDermott worth repeating:

"[T]he president has now shown that he can be bullied, and I don't want my president to be bullied."
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jmpurser
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09:41 AM on 12/16/2010
Personally I don't think Obama is being "bullied" so much as he's working to create situations where the Republicans can "force him" to do what he wanted to do in the FIRST place.
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10:37 AM on 12/16/2010
That makes a depressing amount of sense.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
10:39 AM on 12/16/2010
This is 100% true.  And Obama capitulating serves two purposes- it helps Obama make his conservative buddies look good, and it makes Democrats look weak.
03:10 AM on 12/16/2010
The Democratic politicians in Congress SHOULD fight Obama and fight for the rights of ordinary Americans.

However, the Dem. politicians also work for the same rich and powerful people as the Repubs....and now they can serve their masters and use Obama as the scapegoat.

The Oligarchs/Plutocrats are getting their way more each day and it gets easier and easier for all the politicians from BOTH parties to help them.

Personally, I do not expect much of the Democratic politicians and almost nothing from Obama and his BFF the Republican politicians.

We ordinary working class and middle class workers are f**ck*d but good!
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
10:42 AM on 12/16/2010
We ordinary working class and middle class workers are f**ck*d but good!
This is exactly why conservatives spent over three decades destroying Unions in the US.  Since Unions are organizations representing the interests of working class people, conservative destruction of the Unions means there remains no organization which can bind the working class into a powerful lobbying group.
 
It's classic facism- they start by destroying anyone who can oppose them, that that means unions, religious groups who won't get on board, and artists and intellectuals.
12:30 AM on 12/16/2010
Nice article. I'm so sick of people defending Obama. He's betrayed us horribly at every turn.
02:48 AM on 12/16/2010
Obama is an American national politician. He is, as required to be elected to the Presidency, a standard bearer for neoliberal policy and the interests of the financial industry. You haven't been betrayed. He is doing exactly what he should have been expected to do. Clinton was a neoliberal. Carter was leaning that way by the end of his presidency. The Bushes clearly were. Why is it surprising that an electable Democrat is acting at the behest of what the Washington consensus defines as the national interest?
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10:47 AM on 12/16/2010
Well, y'know, he sounded so good on the campaign trail. I admit that I was fooled. I knew Obama got more corporate donations than any other candidate, and I knew he was not a liberal or a progressive, but he sounded pretty convincing on all that "change" stuff he talked about (which he quit talking about immediately after Election Night, long before he was even inaugurated). I dared to hope that he might really be left of the DLC. I dared to believe that he could be persuaded to support progressive causes, especially since he claimed to support a number of them--like letting the Bush tax cuts for millionaires expire.

Even by 2008, after eight years under the Bush/Cheney crime syndicate, I was naive enough to believe, even halfway, any campaign promise by any professional politician. I simply didn't believe that Obama was outright lying in his presidential campaign speeches--insincere, disingenuous, less than completely truthful, sure, but not 100% dishonest. What can I say? I was wrong. A lot of us were.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
10:51 AM on 12/16/2010
NeoLiberal policies is just another way of saying conservative ideology.
 
In that respect, you are correct in saying American leadership has been moved to the far right.  However, it definitely is a betrayal for a candidate who runs on "hope and change" to just end up being "more of the same".  Just because it should have been an expected betrayal (and was expected by anyone who had critically researched Obama) doesn't mean it wasn't a betrayal.
 
People voted for change, and instead got a "post-partisan" who loves conservative ideology.
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JimR
03:01 PM on 12/16/2010
Wake up and take a look at political reality.
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jmpurser
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03:57 PM on 12/16/2010
The reality is 98% of America doesn't have a political party representing them in DC.