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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: September 6, 2009 01:25 AM

Is Obama One of Us?


If Obama does not say he's going to fight for the public option on Wednesday it will be tremendously disappointing. I'm not the first to say that (though I might be one that has said it the most often). But I do want to try to explain why so many people have that feeling.

First, we rightfully believe that the public option is the heart of health care reform. Without it, the system stays pretty much as it is with some tweaks around the edges. I have written about this many times, so I don't want to rehash that argument.

I have also said many times that this isn't just about the public option or even health care reform. This is about the central idea of Obama's campaign - are we going to have real change in this country or not? If Obama tweaks the system but leaves it largely intact, most people are under the impression that that is not the change we voted for.

Are the lobbyists still going to run DC? Are the politicians still going to work for corporate America or the highest bidder and not for their constituents? Yes, these questions are very much in play during this health care fight, but they will be present on every issue. And if Obama is planning to surrender to those interests in the name of accommodation, negotiation, compromise or just getting "something" done, then it's going to be a long four years. Then we dared to have hope in the wrong guy.

That is why everyone is so animated about the public option. It represents the larger question - is Obama really one of us or is he one of them? By us, I don't mean liberals or progressives. I mean the people interested in having their leaders represent them and not the lobbyists who gave them the biggest check. The great irony is that this could be a truly bipartisan issue.

If he is one of us, then he will not negotiate away the public option because the private health care companies hate it (i.e. they are worried it will be real competition; and if there's anything a large corporation hates, it's real competition). If he is one of them, he will give us nice words meant to appease us about how he tried to keep the public option but he just couldn't and he had to settle for a compromise like the "trigger."

If he does the latter, as he has clearly signaled so far, well then the game was over before it even started. We know that's what Rahm Emanuel wanted all along. We know the White House was busy striking deals with these companies instead of taking them on. But much more importantly, we'll know that Obama never meant to reform the system in the first place.

Look at his most important choice in the White House so far - his chief of staff. If you want to win political battles given the reality of Washington today, then you go with Rahm. If you want to change that reality instead of surrendering to it, then you definitely do not go with Rahm.

The selection of Rahm Emanuel might mean Obama never thought he could win the large battles and never intended to really try in the first place. He just wanted to win enough small political fights to be able to get re-elected. Is that the change we voted for, we fought for?

But I write all of this because it is not too late yet. Obama still has a couple of days to turn it around (if he doesn't signal a real willingness to fight for the public option in Wednesday's speech, it might just be getting too late). It will be a very hard pivot, but a strong leader could do it. If he doesn't, I don't think they understand the degree to which he will be taking the sails out of his movement. It's not to say people won't vote for him anymore. But they certainly won't fight for him. And taking the fight out of your supporters is a terrible idea in politics. And it's terrible idea if you actually want to accomplish what you said you were going to do.

This is why this issue and this question will be determinative. We'll find out what Obama is made of and what his real intentions are. We'll find out if he is one of us or one of them. I'm afraid to look.

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01:09 PM on 09/19/2009
Obama is just another representative of our current Single Party System which always has the interests of the Multinational Corporations as their primary concern. Did you think your $35 campaign contribution and overweening adulation and Belief in Change would trump the REALLY BIG MONEY that Big Pharma et. al. gave? Payback time. Watch the public option disappear down the gullet of Big Insurance!

Time to empower third parties. Don't look back -- the Dems are a lost cause (for the most part). If you keep falling for their smoke and mirrors, it may soon be too late.
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silk olive
02:43 PM on 09/08/2009
I don't think it can be stressed enough that the administration seems to want to pass "something", anything, even if real reform (a strong public option) is not possible. This perspective prioritizes democratic political goals over the very real bipartisan need for healthcare reform (whether insurance-less Republicans are willing to admit this or not).

This should have (and still could be!) a grand slam for Obama. With a majority in Congress, 70% of the American people behind him, this could be his superhero moment. But if he simply eloquently meanders around about how he wants a public option but there are other ways to accomplish this, I fear that this will be the titanic for the democratic party. Not to mention a blatant reminder that we are operating in an economy that serves to benefit corporate interests rather than the people of this country.
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Estreet1964
My neighbors know I'm a rock and roll singer
12:49 PM on 09/08/2009
"Look at his most important choice in the White House so far - his chief of staff. If you want to win political battles given the reality of Washington today, then you go with Rahm. If you want to change that reality instead of surrendering to it, then you definitely do not go with Rahm."

That says it all right there. When I first heard that Obama picked him as Chief of Staff my initial raction was "uh-oh".

It was the first in what looks like will be a long line of disappointments in the Obama administration. Granted, I NEVER thought he was going to be a liberal knight in shining armour, but I did at least expect him to be an exceptional leader. There's still time for him to show us if he has the ambition to be that exceptional leader, but given his track record thus far I'm not hopeful.

Just like most Dems in congress, he just doesn't seem to have the stomach to upset any of the apple carts in D.C. that are in the most need of upsetting.
10:04 PM on 09/06/2009
As I said at the TYT website, I find this all very ironic.

For the past year, the left has painted those on the right who question if Obama is "one of us" or suggest that he doesn't "share the same values" as "us" as everything from sore losers to conspiracy theorist to racists. Yet there is increasing chatter on the left about Obama being some kind of secret corporate shill/bait-and-switch master/weak liar/Manchurian candidate.

The bottom line is that some people who claim to have supported Obama now feel as if he is removing some kind of mask that he had on to fool America into voting for him, and at the end of the day, he will further destroy this country (as opposed to the majority of conservatives that make their voices heard, who feel as if Obama is removing some kind of mask that he had on to fool America into voting for him, and at the end of the day, he will destroy this country, *their* country.

How can so many say that they've already given up on Obama and health care reform, even though no bill has been voted on and the President has not addressed congress in his important health care speech yet? And these same people have the nerve to criticize conservatives who are rejecting Obama's speech to school children without even reading it first?
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11:31 PM on 09/06/2009
"The bottom line is that some people who claim to have supported Obama now feel as if he is removing some kind of mask that he had on to fool America into voting for him"

I didn't vote for him. I saw the mask start to peel when he broke his promise to oppose FISA revisions that would grant telecom corporations immunity . . . and so ultimately I voted for McKinney. Many others are only beginning to see what I saw then now. I haven't been criticizing conservatives trying to keep kids from hearing him speak, though I really do want kids to hear what he has to say--because kids will see through the new Emperor's new clothes quicker than anyone.
02:42 PM on 09/08/2009
"Yet there is increasing chatter on the left about Obama being some kind of secret corporate shill/bait­-and-switc­h master/weak liar/Manchurian candidate."

The worst i can think of calling him is that he's a centrist and not a reformist. That's not change i can believe in. That's not even change really. But i agree, i will wait for the speech tonight. But i'm not optimistic, nor am i willing to be spoon fed some rhetorical pabulum spewed out just to placate the “leftist” reformists.
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SmolderingRuin
"All governments lie!" I.F. Stone
09:38 PM on 09/06/2009
I think you answered your own question, Cenk.
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SionShankel
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09:06 PM on 09/06/2009
There is public option... then there is what we really need and voted for. Don't be fooled into thinking just any old thing called public option is going to be a good thing. I dread what this public option he speaks of is really going to be now.

I found this statement that we are going to find out what Obama is made of (and many of our congress people as they are all just as accountable to us as he is ) who they really are to be chillingly accurate to describe my mood .. and yes I have decided I am not going to watch. I will be ready to react but I cannot stand the idea of wasting any more time on pretty speeches!

It is only " We Did it!" NOT this passive bullshit slogan " yes we can!"
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HC4BO
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08:47 PM on 09/06/2009
NOPE !
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kamachanda
Mr. President, Tear this Wall Street down!
08:27 PM on 09/06/2009
If Obama is or was one of us, that connection seems to have been lost. I wrote the White house today and asked a very similar question. Is the President a President of the people or a mere corporate shill? I told them that I would look for the presence of a strong public option in health care reform to answer that question. I don't need well phrased words, I need well considered action.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
09:15 PM on 09/07/2009
The ONLY WAY forward is THROUGH THE FIRE.... We have epidemics of AUTISM,. ALZHIEMERS and GULF WAR SICKNESS AND ADHD and the only people getting better are PIG PHARM CEOS..... This is pivotal to preventing the medical bankrupcy of this country. We have had the Health Insurers and Pig Pharm in control for the last 40 years and what have they done for us...They import drugs from CHINA but GOD FORBID we import from CANADa...This is NO FREE MARKET, this is a MONOPOLY ON HEALTHCARE IN this country and it is EXPENSIVE....5% of our GDP every years goes to enriching the richest and letting the bottom 60% go bankrupt and loose their retirements....with worse outcomes....WE ALREADY PAY FOR 50% of the care in this country....and we deserve EQUALITY AND JUSTICE and not another tax cut for Paris and Billy and Warren...
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05:50 PM on 09/06/2009
I think if we had a public option it would be very popular as is Medicare. Soon people would say to their elected officals "Keep your government hands off my public option!" But Obama is a pragmatic politician. After Hillary proposed health care reform, we got nothing, which is basically what the insurance industry and Republicans want. Conservatives do not really want health insurance reform. Obama must get something. Either the government can regulate insurance companies like utilities so they can not turn people down for pre-existing conditions and deny claims in much less frequent numbers or we must come up with other ideas. Anyway, many of the best bills we have today were made better by negotiations and amendments over time. Obama must get something through and then we can work on perfecting it.
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09:39 PM on 09/06/2009
You can't "perfect" something that's designed to accomplish next to nothing. You might learn something from it, but you need to throw it out. Here's some solid pragmatism for you: We've got to get to the actual people on the other end of all those poll numbers in favor of single-payer/Medicare-style healthcare, and get ourselves and those people into the streets to demand it.
greenwren
He's an ANGRY elf ...
05:48 PM on 09/06/2009
What I and millions of others voted for was a visionary. What we're getting, I fear, is a pragmatist. Pragmatism has its place, and certainly Obama must incorporate that into his policies. But his eye is wandering -- he's losing the vision. I don't doubt he means well or that he honestly cares about America, especially the millions hurting right now. But he needs to be stronger than this. He needs to be bad@ss. He needs to remember he won the freaking election, and the people who wept for him on election night. We weren't shedding tears for a pragmatist.
06:24 PM on 09/06/2009
Wonderful Point!!! I totally agree.
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02:15 PM on 09/06/2009
Cenk, like you, I am beginning to lose confidence in Obama.

Unlike you though, I'm willing to give the trigger option a chance. I figure we'll let the capitalists and libertarians try it their way, and if that doesn't work then we'll try it our way. If neither works though, we're all screwed and it will be time to move to Canada.
12:51 AM on 09/07/2009
"I figure we'll let the capitalists and libertarians try it their way, and if that doesn't work then we'll try it our way. "

You must be very young. We "Democrats" have been letting the capitalists "try it their way" for 40 years. It hasn't worked so far.

Obama's betrayal on the public option won't be the first straw. It'll be the last.
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02:05 PM on 09/06/2009
I'm tired of the nit-picking. In his first months in office President Obama and Congress expanded CHIP, enacted the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, saved the auto industry from complete liquidation, expanded unemployment, assisted people with COBRA, invested more money in health care, clean energy and education than this country has invested in decades. They passed tax cuts for the middle and lower working class, invested billions in light rail, weatherizing and updating of public buildings... passed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act, Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act, Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, Omnibus Public Lands Management Act, Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act... how is this not progress?

There are now only 59 Democratic Senators so he has to get Snowe on board as well as 14 more Senators to agree to vote for it (only 45 agreed so far). Do you think throwing away reforms that are also vital (no more preexisting conditions or denial of claims when you're ill, expanding Medicaid to 150% above poverty...) is worth it when we can always tweek the system after? If the Blue Dogs don't support a public option it's because we didn't mobilize enough to convince them we'd have their backs.

Remember, candidate Obama's message on BarackObama.com: "I am asking you to believe not in my ability to bring about real change in Washington, I am asking you to believe in yours."

If it doesn't pass we've not been active enough.
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04:13 PM on 09/06/2009
The Blue Dogs not supporting the public option has nothing to do with us not convincing them we'd have their backs. The Blue Dogs not supporting the public option has everything to do with their biggest campaign contributors-- the healthcare industry. Go look it up! These Dems. (in name only) receive millions of dollars from the same folks who want to see the public option killed at all costs. You know the ones who are spending a million dollars a day lobbying against "real change" in Washington.

And yes, I believe that a bill without a public option is worth "throwing away," because the only winners if it passes, will be the insurance companies. Just look at how the major insurance companies' stock went through the roof when it became obvious that the WH was willing to negotiate away the public option.

Cenk is right, I want to know if Pres. Obama is one of us or one of them...unfortunately, I think I already know the answer.
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PennsylvaniaVoter
08:30 PM on 09/06/2009
Absolutely right on the money. Aside from the Weapons Systems Acquisition Reform Act which he co-sponsored, I'm sure most of this wouldn't have happened if McCain had been elected president. It saddens me that people somehow think that the idea of "Hope" will magically solve all problems and deliver 60 votes in the Senate. Obama is trying to work the system for us, and has been fairly effective so far. We were on the verge of another Great Depression, and he and his team worked with congress to enact legislation that significantly reduced the depth of the recession. People don't seem to realize the colossal scope of the disaster that was averted.
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lgillooly
12:18 PM on 09/06/2009
If he fights for us....we will fight for him.period
No more triangulating BS.. Get it done and that means a real national public option. We have already compromised the best solution.(single payer) No more. The R's just want power back for the big interests. This could be the last hope for real democracy in this Counry.
People are suffering and dying while Insurance CEO 's live like kings. What kind of a people have we become.?
12:06 PM on 09/06/2009
Right on Cenk

Passing drivel that does nothing is worse than failing to pass what is right. Like Moyer's says come back and do it right when America gets pissed and gets their head out of their butt.
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11:42 AM on 09/06/2009
I'm starting to think the Pres should do what he feels is right, even if it means pissing off the Progressives. Because, I have a feeling he's trying to find a temporary compromise to get a bill passed for now, before coming back to get the public option. He does not have the votes right now, so he has to do what he can. Even Bill Clinton said don't let the perfect be the enemy of the possible. So, let him do what he can even if his poll numbers plummet to the minus numbers, and if he really was honest about bring HCR, then he'll fight for it and GET IT done later on. I hope he was, but you guys are not even waiting to give him a minute's chance and have already given your verdict. But, if he will campaign better, in his speech, and in the days later to get ppl to call their senators and strong arm them to support HCR, that will be better and he can get it done now, which will calm the progressives down.There's always a chance he's lying and won't really want HCR, but you guys are so irrational that there's nothing else in your mind that's happening besides betrayal. Sheesh. Wednesday isn't that long from now, guys.
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kamachanda
Mr. President, Tear this Wall Street down!
08:47 PM on 09/06/2009
There is an old saying, justice delayed is justice denied. A weak reform now will be little more than an excuse to avoid addressing the issue in the future.
12:54 AM on 09/07/2009
"I'm starting to think the Pres should do what he feels is right, even if it means pissing off the Progressives."

Starting to think? Have you been paying attention at ALL?

From FISA to being still in Iraq to expanding Afghanistan to secret detention to playing cover for Dick Cheney to coddling the Blue Dogs at the expense of his base, ALL Obama has done is "piss off the progressives," and throw more and more kindness at the people who think he's a socialist Hitler native son of Kenya!

This isn't just insulting to us progressives, it's simply foolish. To spend all of your time and energy chasing after the people who wish you'd never been born, while spitting in the face of the people who worked tirelessly and opened their hearts and wallets to get you elected -- this isn't pragmatism, it's just stupid.