Last Chance Saloon: Will the Democrats Stand Up to George Bush's Ridiculous Offer?

Posted September 11, 2007 | 05:25 PM (EST)



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Word has just come out that President Bush will offer to take out 30,000 troops from Iraq by next August -- maybe, if all of his conditions are met. So, that would leave us in the same exact place we were in November of 2006 when the American people sent the message that we should withdraw from Iraq.

This is like a department store raising prices by a 100% one day and then having a "50% Off Sale" the next day. It's not much to brag about. In fact, it's a cheap salesman's trick.

President Bush's strategy all along has been to run out the clock until he can hand off Iraq to the next president -- and then claim they screwed it up. This is one giant reprehensible game to avoid blame for the catastrophe in Iraq. The president wants to be able to say that the dog ate his homework and that's why Iraq didn't work out. I keep hearing that Shaggy song running through my head, "It wasn't me! It wasn't me!"

If it hadn't been for those darn Democrats everything he did would have worked out okay. Except in this scenario, hundreds, if not thousands, of more Americans will die and get their arms and legs blown off so that George Bush can feel a little better about himself. How many more American lives is George Bush's ego worth?

Is anyone really going to be so gullible as to buy into this cheap magician's trick? According to The New York Times, unfortunately, that's an excellent possibility. Democrats are considering buckling for a record one millionth time in a row. The so-called compromise that is being discussed within the Democratic caucus right now is nearly identical to Bush's proposal. That is so stupid it makes the head hurt. Can someone please help us? Will anyone represent us? Where are our so-called leaders?

I would like to buy the Democrats a clue. According to the latest USA Today/Gallup poll, 60% of Americans are to the left of you! They answered that they are in favor of hard deadlines for withdrawal no matter what the conditions on the ground are. That is considerably starker than the average Democrat's position.

By the way, this was a poll question loaded to get a low answer. Who is really going to say they are for withdrawal no matter what the conditions are? Well, apparently a huge majority of Americans. Even with that kind of loaded question, sixty percent said we have to go -- no matter what.

Are you listening Democrats? The amount of disdain the Democrats will have earned if they buckle again will be immeasurable. Even with overwhelming American support behind them, the most deeply unpopular president of all time and the country in a mood for dramatic change, if they give in to Bush again, the world will not be able to contain our disgust with them.

Bush will announce shortly on national television that he is so magnanimous that he is willing to go back to pre-surge numbers a year from now. It reminds me of Joaquin Phoenix's character in Gladiator yelling, "Am I not merciful?! Am I not merciful?!" I'm going to go with "no" on that one.

So, what will the Democrats answer be? Will they thank the worst president in history for going back to his original unreasonable position? Will they allow him to run out the clock on his presidency while our kids keep getting killed for no reason whatsoever? Will they allow him to make the audacious claim that he is being conciliatory by offering to withdraw absolutely no net troops since the 2006 elections?

Will they keep whining and complaining about not having enough votes before they even try to use public pressure to get Republicans to change their votes? Do they not understand that Republicans have to change their votes or lose in the next election -- unless they are given cover by the Democrats by passing a meaningless, non-binding bill?

Come on, really? Non-binding?? Are you kidding? Who in their right mind thinks Bush will be pressured to make a change in Iraq if it's non-binding? No one can reasonably believe that.

Please tell me the Democrats aren't this bad in politics. Do they not understand how political pressure works? The most precious thing in the world to a politician is his own ass. If those Republican Senators become convinced that they will lose if they keep voting with Bush, they will bend. I guarantee it. Self preservation is the number one rule of politics.

This is the time for strength. Make them bend to your will.

It's the only way out. If the Democrats vote for any kind of fake compromise with so-called moderate Republicans, there is no way in the world George Bush is going to leave Iraq. He has managed to delay withdrawal with his ridiculous surge strategy for nearly a year now. Democrats would have to be crazy to let him keep doing it any longer.

And if the Democrats did concede for no reason, it would all of a sudden be their careers that are on the line, whether it's through primary fights all over the country or a reinforced image as weaklings or simply owning our presence in Iraq through continued capitulation to the president. How many times can they allow Bush to stay in Iraq and credibly claim they are against that policy?

This is last chance saloon. I am genuinely curious. Is it possible that the Democrats have one more fold in them? It seems too irrational for the imagination to bear. Or can they stand up for themselves -- and for us -- for the first time in such a long time? That also seems hard to imagine. I can't recollect what a strong Democratic Party looked like. It seems like a foreign concept now.

How is it going to go? What will they do? Will they stand? This is real drama. I don't know the answer, and I'm not sure I want to.

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Well put.

But between the DLC neo-con agenda, K Street campaign money, impeachment "off-the-table",
cave-in to Bush/GOP minority demands like FISA,
pro-Iran war stance, zero political juice expended
for ending the Iraq Occupation, any thinking voter
already has lost any respect for the Dem Sheeple
in Congress. Of course, the unsolved anthrax attacks,
spying on Senate Dem computers, extremely widespread wiretapping, etcetera, would have stiffened the backbones of any real political opposition to the Bush Crime Family, or else led to
wholesale resignations from Congress. Rule of law,
protecting the Constitution, guarding the futures of
their legal lawful constituents, all shot to hell.

Looks like there really aren't more than a handful of
Democrats in either house of Congress that really
deserve respect, or the voters' support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 09/13/2007
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Dear Brother Cenk,

The answer my friend is blowing in the wind... the answer is blowing in the wind.

BTW... Excellent rant! Agape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 09/12/2007

"Last Chance Saloon: Will the Democrats Stand Up to George Bush's Ridiculous Offer?"
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HELL no!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 09/12/2007

This guy has a show! What show? Every time I see one of his articles, it's great. But somebody clue me in about this show thing, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 09/12/2007
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Air America Radio, ... On the Internet if not your local airwaves. Look for "The Young Turks", ... He is half of the duo on that rado show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 09/12/2007

The show is also broadcast on the internet and there lots of clips of different segments and topics. He also has a link at the bottom of his blog above that says "Watch the Young Turks".

Click it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 09/12/2007

Well, it seems pretty obvious that all this writing and posting and letting off steam is all for naught. The administration will do whatever it wants, the media won't question it, the Dems will pretend to be indignant, and the public will continue to consume, awash in their apathy and ignorance.
Maybe I'm too old for this game, but it's starting to be a bore. After a lifetime of investment in political activism, at 60 years of age all I can think of is "get the hell outta here!". I'm going to blow this place and never look back. This is a new world, and not a better one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 09/12/2007

Let's see where do I start. There is so much to consider about the health of our failing democracy, excuse me, republic.
Let's start with root causes.
1-Iraq, 2-nd largest world oil reserve.
2-Iraq, an easy target, no WMDs and their military can be defeated in 2-3 weeks.
3-Iraq, occupy and talkeover the control of the oil and profits
4-US, a predominently ignorant ill-formed electorate, easily manipulated by propaganda
5-US, a military industrial complex into which tax dollars can be easily funneled to enhance politicians coffers
6-US, a capitalist economic system based on raping natural resouces around the world and maximizing profits. Nationlism be damned. Globalization, baby...
7-US, a puppet gov't and weak opposition that will endorse a decades-long war to "git 'er dun"
8-US-political cheerleaders and enablers that will play along for the right price.

Sounds like a corporate plan and paradym for success.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 09/12/2007

I had a drink or 2 quite a few years back in the Last Chance Saloon, when I used to travel around and hit some old timey tourist traps. I can't remember of it was in Tuscon? Any way, I also had a beer in the Bucket of Blood Saloon. Now that was once owned by Wyatt Earp, and was in an old town in Nevada. It was okay for a short beer, but I woudn't want to get caught dead there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 09/12/2007

No.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 AM on 09/12/2007

ClevelanD CHICK is right . Rahm & Steny Hoyer made sure pro-war dems won. Most thought we would be out by now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 09/12/2007

Lest we forget, The Democrats also want Iraqi oil and a permanent military base in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 09/12/2007

The title of this piece asks a question. The answer is "no!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 09/12/2007

they fold so much they should be called the
Origami Congress

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 09/12/2007

As said before, the Dems can do a lot of things to derail Bush's imperial plans , witha godd chance of success.

1--Draft, as above.
2--War Tax, as above.
3--Ban War Profiteering (you'd see everybody heading for the exits).
4--Fail to reauthorize the occupation in October.
5--Send back the supplemental and have it attached to the Military Appropriations Bill (which is funded).
6--Don't bring the supplemental spending bill to the floor for a vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 09/11/2007

I'm really tired of my taxpayer money being spent on such ridiculous hearings over and over and over again. (How about fighting poverty, improving our infastructure, making our nation more secure from terror......)

I really understand why this Congress gets a lower rating than George Bush.

I only see one Presidential candidate who will actually do what he says and that's Barack Obama. He not only has a plan to end this war, but he has a plan for what to do next.

The rest of the Democrats are simply shrilling 'end the war' with no clue as to how to do it and what comes next to secure our nation.

We need action, not campaign rhetoric.

I wish we could elect Obama this year and get our nation back on the right track.





    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 09/11/2007

Great rant Cenk as usual. You've had some success with your "Enough" action. Now would be a good time to step up and urge your tribe to call, phone, or fax their Congressman as well as key Dems such as Rahm Immanual, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, etc. on September 13th and 14th. This would show solidarity with the September 15th march in Washington. I'm not telling you what to do I'm just saying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 09/11/2007

Great idea.

Here's a good resource for Congressional contact info:

visi.com/juan/congress/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 09/11/2007
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