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Progressives Must Stand Up to the President

Posted: 04/11/11 12:05 PM ET

These budget negotiations were a giant win for the Republican Party. President Obama initially cut $40 billion from his own budget proposal -- and he got absolutely no credit for that. It was a very typical preemptive concession by the president. It was so typical, you wonder if he recognizes what an indisputably terrible strategy it is or if he has a different agenda.

So, after getting no credit for his original $40 billion concession, then the negotiations began at square one. The Republicans claimed in February that they wanted $32 billion in cuts from that point on. About a week ago, the president came out and announced that they had given the Republicans another $33 billion in cuts -- a billion more than they originally asked for. And still the Republicans wanted more.

Why not? They're dealing with the world's worst negotiator, why not ask for more? After February they came up with a brilliant good cop-bad cop strategy with the Tea Party, where they had the Tea Party force them to go to $61 billion in demands. Which pushed the spectrum out further to the right. They know President Obama will go to the middle of any spectrum, no matter how radical. And then once they had baited Obama out to the $33 billion number, which was past their original goal, they baited him out even further. Finally, they got him to $38.5 billion in cuts an hour before the deadline.

So, in the end, he got no credit for the original giant cuts, he got no credit for going a billion past the Republican's wildest dreams and he had to give them an extra $5.5 billion to get a deal. But what he doesn't realize is that the shutdown would have been a disaster for the Republicans -- they never wanted that. They were playing him the whole time. When Boehner came back with the deal, he got a rousing ovation from his side, including the Tea Party faction.

It was a put on. The whole time when the Tea Party was demanding the whole $61 billion, they were just playing their part in the game. They were the bad cop to make sure Obama made the deal with Boehner, the good cop. They must have had a good laugh at the end.

First, I want to make clear I am not a Monday morning quarterback. Anyone who watches me on The Young Turks or on MSNBC knows that I have been saying all along that Obama was going to fall for this trick and that he was going to go way past $33 billion. It's just who he is. He hates conflict. There almost isn't any deal you can't get him to sign off on. And that's my whole point for writing this -- we can not have him do this next time!

Next time, the negotiations are over trillions, not billions. If he meets them more than halfway -- as he has done every single time now -- it will be a colossal disaster. Whenever Republican presidents try to cut Social Security or Medicare, they run into a brick wall. If the Republicans use President Obama to help them do that instead, then he will have done more damage than a Republican president can.

I hear from Democrats every single time that they'll fight the next time. And it's never the next time. Well, this time we've hit the wall. The next negotiations will be inarguably the most important. If the president obamas this (yes, I used it as a verb), it will be catastrophic.

Now, I want to ask even the most ardent Obama supporters -- do you really believe the president is going to hold strong the next time around? Even you don't believe that, right? It's not who he is. He will look to get past partisan politics. What's the only way to do that when one side is being obstinate? To give in to them. How many times have we seen this movie?

I didn't write this to rub it in the face of the feckless Democrats who always wind up playing the role of the Washington Generals to the Republican Globetrotters (remember the Democrats have the White House and the Senate -- but they let the GOP run the place like they are totally in charge). I wrote it to tell you how incredibly important it is that you put real pressure on the president from the left. He will move to the middle of any spectrum!

If you don't help push the spectrum to the left, the Republicans will move it massively to the right -- and the president will fall for it.

The whole point of the insane, draconian, ridiculous Paul Ryan budget proposal for next year was to move the spectrum all the way to the radical right, so that they can lure Democrats to a false middle, that is in reality the far right.

It's time to stop playing nice with Democrats. Good cop-good cop doesn't work. We need a bad cop. We need a strong progressive wing to keep shouting "no deal!" every time the White House wants to concede (which will be every time).

You can ignore this, blame me and go hug the president one more time, but you won't be doing your side any favors. If you actually care about policy and progressive priorities, you must get tough with the president right now. There is no next time.

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05:25 AM on 04/23/2011
To this I say "oooooofff coooooarse". Every time the progressive budget gets brought up its always slapped down, we need more arrogance and determination in the progressive movement absolutely. With poll numbers supporting a left leaning agenda, keeping medicare and social security as they are, taxing the rich, cutting defense spending they should be able to grow a pair and start to push back harder than ever. The American people are leaning progressive even if they don't know it yet. Cenk move forward!
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BMcCue7
I'm Buddy McCue (and you're not.)
09:59 AM on 05/01/2011
Of cooooooourse!
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Abelardo Perez
Obama won...Yay?
10:30 AM on 04/13/2011
i agree 1 million percent
10:20 PM on 04/12/2011
CEOs don't hire because they have money to blow on employment. CEOs hire if they think they can make money out of it. It has nothing to do with taxes. And it certainly doesn't have anything to do with personal tax rates. It has everything to do with middle class spending. Cut the middle class salaries, jobs and benefits, you kill the economy.
Bush didn't make stipulations on executive salary and bonuses with the financial bail out. The bail out saved the financial industry, but they could have stipulated lowering mortgage interest rates, or incentives for employment growth. Obama made stipulations with the auto bail out. Now the auto industry is making money for the government. Remember, the republicans were fighting against the auto bailout, and saying that it would never work? Well it worked. The American auto industry was saved and who is fiscally responsible?
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evekendall
12:24 AM on 04/13/2011
Great posts today, LS. F & F
10:20 PM on 04/12/2011
FACT: over the past 25 years the rich have been getting richer, (except that is slowed down in the Clinton years). The top 5% has 63% of the nation's wealth. Neocons cry "redistribution of wealth" yet history proves that wealth always moves. You can't have a healthy economy if money is not moving throughout the financial landscape. Once the wealth starts redirecting to the middle class, the middle class will spend more in the economy.
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BMcCue7
I'm Buddy McCue (and you're not.)
10:01 AM on 05/01/2011
That's right.

ALL economic activity is "redistribution of wealth." The fact that economic mobility in this country is nearly stagnant does almost nobody any good. Why should very many people support it?
10:15 PM on 04/12/2011
The GOP is rewarded for threatening to do things that are bad for the country IF they don’t get their tax cuts for the rich. Their threats include: Stop unemployment, everybody’s taxes go up, stop military pay, close women’s health clinics, shut down the government, etc. They want to roll back the tax cuts to 25% which is what the rich paid in 1931 when poor people were starving in the streets in America.

By the way, the Bush tax cuts cost America roughly 2.1 trillion dollars on top of two unfunded wars. How about the people who have gotten the tax breaks over the last 10 years start sacrificing just 3% more? It amazes me that the GOP doesn’t blink when two married teachers are losing 10% of their family income, but Tea Party Neocons dress in revolutionary costumes because Obama wants to raise the rich tax rate 3%.
07:36 PM on 04/12/2011
I Agree with everything being said in this article. No need for me to ramble on and on. Simply, I agree.
04:40 PM on 04/12/2011
Progressives, the working and middle classes are never going to be properly represented by the Democrats. It is an inside game for our elected officials in Washington and across the nation who sign on with the two major parties. The only things the two major parties represent are money and power, they do not represent people at all after the votes are counted. The vast majority of Americans have absolutely no representation from these imposters. Voting for a Democrat and expecting any improvement in the situation and prospects for the working and middle classes is just casting a vote for denial and wishful thinking .
03:35 PM on 04/12/2011
Apparently we're not going to federally fund abortions, but in addition we're taking away or reducing the ability of mothers to get food for the infants through the WIC program. But while they're starving to death, we're going to protect them from terrorists and armies that might want to come after them. Do these Republicans ever actually make sense?
03:26 PM on 04/12/2011
I'm not sure how the struggle (in the eyes of Americans) came to be between Congressional Republicans and the President. It should be Congressional Republicans and Congressional Democrats. That is where the deals need to be made. The GOP knows that it can go to the White House to make deals that Democrats in Congress won't make. He really should know better. The President is playing into the hands of the GOP by playing the part of the foil.
03:09 PM on 04/12/2011
Excellent article, Jenk you really nailed it. My problem is that we on the left have tried to make our case from health care to Gitmo, the wars and on every other issue and Obama has repeatedly ignored our voices. He knows that he will not face a primary challenge to force him to alter any of his right leaning pro-Republican positions. He also fnows that we on the left are backed into a corner of voting for him or not voting and possibly causing and even far greater disaster of a totally republican/coroporatist government.

I just wish I knew what it would take to really pressure Obama to the point of respecting his base.
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LLeGrande
A Proud Liberal Democrat.
02:25 PM on 04/12/2011
The Republicans fear their base, and never give in, and never give up.

The Democrats despise their base, and there is nothing on which they will not cave and crumble like tissue paper.

And the POTUS is the very worst of the Democrats. There is no battle from which he will not back down when confronted by the Republicans.

I had hoped that Mr. Obama would be like FDR who relished the good fight, and who wanted his political adversaries to dislike him as much as he disliked them. And, in the end, FDR won big time for the people.

Mr. Obama is not a Democrat. He is a Corporatist. He does the bidding of the big contributors. He is planning his next job after being POTUS. What a disappointment.
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RickO
Musician, Atheist
02:07 PM on 04/12/2011
Like many, I was an ardent supporter and shed a tear of joy at the 2008 election outcome.

I no linger care. No job, no prospects, no health insurance, all that energy spent on education and career building is for nothing, These dogs in congress are dismantling our society to enrich themselves and their friends and the one person who actually has the power to say "enough!", appears to be in on it.

I don't care anymore. I am 48 and, statistically, have about 25 years left on this rock. I've cast my last vote. As far as I'm concerned, let Bachmann or Palin or Barbour or Gingrich be president. It doesn't even matter. The inevitable future is almost in full view now and those of us, the "forgotten millions", need to take a reality check and decide how to prepare for the day when the American flag is nothing more than a corporate logo and the pie is all gone.

Obama promised change. What it will really take is a reset. It's happening before our eyes in smaller countries around the world today, with varying degrees of success, and it's happened numerous times throughout history in countries including our own. We are not immune or above the possibility of a reset. The only question is what form it will take. It's looking less likely that the ballot box will prevail.

This country is fast becoming a heartless corporate theocracy with no social safety net. Please prove me wrong.
MayaBeach
Tower of Babble
02:23 PM on 04/12/2011
I totally agree with both the article & your response. This is morally wrong and simply cruel. I had no idea that Obama would be so gutless, spineless, whatever you want to call it. TAX THE WEALTHY!
03:55 PM on 04/12/2011
F&F

I'm a couple of years older than you and feeling the same sense of futility. I have younger friends who are thinking about kids and, while I would never say it, all I can think is "why would you want to have kids in the USA while it is slipping away".

Good luck.
Benjacomin Bozart
Jefferson-better to eat bacon at home than to rule
01:55 PM on 04/12/2011
Obama consistently cuts the progressives out. He hate the left more than the right who hate his guts. This is the Democratic party. "Realpolitik" Republicans posing as Democrats. It has been for a long time.
02:42 PM on 04/12/2011
If you were as influential in Congress as the Repugnuts, right now, you could lead him around by the nose, rather than they.

If you want him to pay attention, get him a Congress that will support him and is as loud as the Repugnuts. That's what it will take for any President you can get elected. I promise.
03:56 PM on 04/12/2011
HE HAD THE CONGRESSIONAL SUPPORT. HE LEANED RIGHT ANYWAY.

Stop with the excuses already.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
01:11 PM on 04/12/2011
So, Cenk says we need to put pressure on President Obama. How exactly are we suppose to do it?
Isn't more productive to put pressure on our congressmen and senators, after all the president can do is to sign or veto a bill.
A lot of progressives blame President Obama for losing majority in the Congress in the last election, and he deserves some of it. But wasn't it the congress with democratic majority who told the President last summer that they decided not to work and vote on budget for 2011 and went home? And as a result Obama had to deal with Boehner and obstinate Tea Party congressmen in 2011?
If all the democratic and independents voters voted in 2010 elections, we would have had Nancy Pelosi as a majority leader and a much better budget bill.
So, if you want to blame Obama for a lousy budget bill, go ahead. But it's our fault also.
10:31 AM on 04/13/2011
How to pressure the President and dems??? Easy; vote green party and let the dems know why. We may lose an election, but we might get our party back, and get some leaders with some spine.
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kemstone
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12:50 AM on 04/15/2011
If you could get a big enough coalition of voters to agree to do that and to get media attention for doing it, that might actually have an impact.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
01:03 PM on 04/13/2011
correction: Nancy Pelosi as a speaker of the house
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ProudLiberalDan
Standing up an fighting conservatives since 1987
12:27 PM on 04/12/2011
This is the part I genuinely do not understand.

The "winners" of a debate seem to be the side that sets the frames and parameters for the discussion rather than who makes the better argument.

If the debate is about how much spending to cut and how many tax cuts to give the wealthy and corporations who are already sitting on mountains of cash, then conservatives win. Even if progressives and liberals make a better argument and the cuts in spending and taxes are low, policy still moves in a conservative and destructive direction.

I genuinely do not understand why the President and most Democrats in Congress are not using the bully pulpit to change the debate into what is the best way to put people back to work and keep people working.

Tax cuts do not increase government revenues as supply-side conservatives like to delude themselves and the Bush tax cuts cost jobs, not created them.

If we allow conservatives to frame the debate, they win no matter what the arguments are.

This "let's come together and solve problems" is only helping conservatives because as long as they refuse to compromise and liberals do all the compromising, politics moves ever rightward.
Benjacomin Bozart
Jefferson-better to eat bacon at home than to rule
01:59 PM on 04/12/2011
Because Democrats are owned by the same people that bought the Republican party. There isn't much difference between them. A real opposition party would be screaming about the Chicago school of economic con men that is destroying the middle class that was started by Milton Friedman and embraced by Reagan and the Republicans and eventually the Clinton wing of the Democrats which is led by Obama