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Cenk Uygur

Cenk Uygur

Posted: September 3, 2009 04:01 AM

Progressives Should Vote No on Obama's Health Care Proposal


Earlier in the week I got excited when I saw Obama was going to address Congress next week. I thought maybe he'll finally get tough with them. How incredibly naïve.

Instead, we found out later on Wednesday that Obama had already decided to kill the public option. The only question that remained was how to kill it. Then we found out that there is a good chance that they are not even going to do universal coverage. So, what's left of so-called health care reform?

This is an enormously disappointing day. Obama is not playing chess. He doesn't know something we don't know. It is exactly as we had feared. He did make deals with the private health care corporations. They would never agree to deals with a public option. He picked Rahm Emanuel as his Chief of Staff because politics was his primary concern, not policy. He never intended to do the public option. It was all a joke.

I'm sure Rahm Emanuel thinks there is nothing to lose by angering or disappointing the left. He knows they're not going to vote for lunatic Republicans. So, he figures they can get political credibility by attacking the very people who put them in office. Classy. Except, I think he has miscalculated a little.

We have lost all enthusiasm for Obama now. It's not just me. I thought after I ranted against Obama's pathetic capitulation today on the show that a lot of Obamabots would come out and give the usual excuses -- give him time, he's a master strategist and we mortals cannot understand his ways, yada, yada, yada. But no, not this time. The comments on our website and our You Tube channel were uniformly against Obama. There was one common refrain -- why did we bother electing this guy?!

I think the Obama White House is doing untold damage to its credibility here by scheming against the centerpiece of healthcare reform - the public option. We're not unreasonable; we get that compromise is necessary. And there are many things we are willing to compromise on. But the public option is the very heart of reform. If you don't have it, it turns into a large boondoggle for private insurance companies to make even more money.

Who is excited to work for Obama after he kills real reform and passes something already pre-approved by the very lobbyists he claimed he was going to fight? No one I've seen so far. Of course, there are differences between Democrats and Republicans, but in the end, it appears they serve the same corporate overlords.

So, the only hope that remains is the progressive caucus in the House. They must vote no. Without a public option, this whole thing is a joke. The private insurance companies will make even more money, the deficit will go even higher (with subsidies we're shoveling over to those same companies to cover the previously uninsured) and our premiums will continue to go up. The average American will get little to nothing from this so-called health care reform. But, of course, the private health care companies will make a fortune.

Washington appears to be a wholly owned subsidiary of corporate America. We're going to find out soon if there is anyone who is willing to fight this takeover. Apparently Obama never intended to do the public option or real reform in the first place, but it appears that the progressives in Congress did. Now we're going to find out if they will follow the time honored tradition of Democrats and capitulate or if there's anyone in DC with a backbone to actually stand up to the lobbyists.

If they vote no on Obama's weak sauce bill, the world will come down on them. Rahm Emanuel who is scared to death of fighting Republicans will relish beating up on progressives. He's a lion against liberals and a pussy cat with Republicans and lobbyists.

Of course, the media will go along and say that it was the progressives who killed the bill when not a single Republican would have voted for it under any circumstance. They have to withstand this barrage and show what they're made of. Is there anyone on the Democratic side who is actually willing to stand up for principle? We're about to find out.

If the progressives buckle on this one, I can guarantee you that this kind of appeasement will only encourage Republicans to do these same tactics all over again on every issue. And Emanuel (Obama's Cheney) and the rest of the White House will run for the hills every time and we will get absolutely no change in America.

We have to stand strong here -- and it sickens me that it is against Obama that we must do this. Remember his campaign? What a politician, what a disappointment.

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isafakir
fakir
06:01 PM on 09/13/2009
when warren was chosen to make the invocation [and when bishop robinson's prayer was censored by obama], it was clear what would follow. no mystery. i still hoped against hope. on every issue that counts he folds. the constitution. torture. accountability. aid to banks instead of people. tax breaks for the rich rather than jobs and education and health for the poor. DOMA DADT and health care. he's a democrat. post new deal democrat.
09:39 PM on 09/05/2009
I am not a man of faith, but I have been willing to help out while suspending judgement on Obama.
I've been waiting for an indication that he has a plan to implement sane and effective policies. I'll continue that strategy for a few more weeks. If he doesn't win effective reform. I still assume that he is alone and needs even more and more active support. Since he was a community organizer I expected that HE would lead a movement not just a party, I see that he can't do that alone.

I ,then, want to see a MOVEMENT leader emerge. The closest person who might become a movement leader to get reform (Medical, Climate, Pro labor) moving seems to be Howard Dean.
Lets draft him as a movement leader for the active campaigners who put Obama in office.
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Estreet1964
My neighbors know I'm a rock and roll singer
12:31 PM on 09/04/2009
It's time to send the Obama White House a message from the progressives who got them elected. I am one of the hundreds of thousands of progressives who are on Obama's email list and I receive emails from the White House regularly. Last year, I remember many pundits talking about how valuable such a list was to Obama's election.

I propose that progressives who want to protest Obama's lack of support for the Public Option stage a virtual march on the White House by unsubscribing from the White House master list en mass. We should do this on Sept. 25 2009 to mark the passage of one month since the death of Senator Ted Kennedy. I know that thousands of progressives out there have been writing to the White House and signing petitions supporting a public option for months to no avail. Maybe this tactic will make them stand up and take notice.

Hopefully, watching their progressive base withdraw support from them will scare them into taking bold action to pass the type of reform we elected them to pass last November.

Please help put out the word to get this campaign started.
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Tony Dickey
Futurist-Historian-Astrologer
10:09 PM on 09/04/2009
BooHoo. Barack is having a difficult time passing reform that NO ONE HAS SUCCESSFULLY PASSED IN ABOUT 100 YEARS. In a time when we are still on the precipice of a depression that he has probably kept us from falling into, while he struggles to contest two wars he inherited during a time when his very election reignited the silly culture war Americans have over race, you want to abandon him? You abandon him because it LOOKS LIKE the reform process is not going well, when he has already secured some type of reform? All this is crazy talk.

If you are going to show the Dems 'what for', are you out backing Green Party members to run for Congress? After 8 years of Republicans selling us out, you really will risk giving them additional power? In the minority they still manage to gum up the works. What do you think with more seats?

Sounds like people like you are giving into hysteria. Yes, he has probably made mistakes. But when was the last time you had a perfect year? Criticize in hope of his improving, but abandon him for a worse option? Why? There are better ways to transmit the message.
04:33 AM on 09/06/2009
You're missing the point (deliberately, I suspect).

He's not even *trying* to stick up for the thing he campaigned on. He's not even *fighting* for the public option -- the "necessary" (his own words) heart of health care reform. In fact, pretty much since day one, he's been cozier with industry lobbyists (who desperately want the public option dead) than anyone else.

No, we're not giving up because the president is losing the fight. Honestly, if he were fighting for real reform, I would be right behind him, supporting him even if -- even while -- he crashed and burned.

No, we're ditching him because it's become increasingly clear that he's simply betrayed us. Fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice... we won't get fooled again (thanks for that one, George.)
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Estreet1964
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12:09 PM on 09/04/2009
Our side has already compromised. We're settling for a public option instead of single payer.

And now they want to compromise further?

Why don't they just hand the keys to the White House over to Mitch McConnell and John Bon.er. They're already doing it in practice they might as well do it literally.
07:06 PM on 09/04/2009
I totally agree with you! Single payer was one of the main reasons I voted for Obama, I truly believed he could champion this and get it passed. I was disappointed with the public option, but at least it was still reform and I'm okay with that compromise. No public option??? Have they lost their minds? Did they forget they promised us "Real Change"??? Sadly i was wrong about Obama and the Democrats and now I am embarrassed for putting so much trust into a politician to do the right and moral thing for our country.
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msgirlintn
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04:44 AM on 09/04/2009
Don't sell him out yet. I am as upset about this as much as anybody. He could get the 51 votes to pass it under reconcilliation. If the Repubs want to fillibuster, bring in the cots and let cable carry it 24/7. It will only make them look stupid. With the unemployment rate as high as it is now, we need the public option so these people can have health insurance when cobra runs out. He could make the case on moral grounds, economic grounds, etc. But, if we get too upset with them, think of the alternative. Would you want Mitch McConnell and John Boehner running congress? And what about a Pres. Palin?
04:36 AM on 09/06/2009
I think you misunderstand how this is working. This isn't progressives giving up on Obama because he's losing the fight. We'd LOVE someone who fought for the good, even if he lost.

No, we're giving up on Obama because (as Cenk and others have spelled out) he's pretty much been in bed with the industry lobbyists from day one. Clearly the idea of having a political "win" is MUCH more important to Obama and Rahm than actual change. They'll give us a steaming heap, with the word "change" plastered on it, and wonder why we aren't thanking them.

Enough is enough.
04:32 AM on 09/04/2009
I'll be astonished if Obama actually does this. America is teetering on the edge of catastrophe in about ten different ways - health care and its costs being chief among them. He'll be declared responsible for the inevitable rise in premiums (because insurance co.s feel like it and because they can't boot people off their plans) if the public option doesn't pass, but, in the alternative, he'd gain political good-will if the public option passed and actually lowered costs. This is why I don't understand the course of action Cenk says Obama is taking - it seems intensely focused on the current debate without any consideration of the obvious consequences and whose shoulders they'll fall upon.

I'll vote elsewhere if Obama capitulates on this. I couldn't vote for him in good conscience and of course screw donating money or time.
12:46 AM on 09/04/2009
I regret campaigning for Obama. I wasted 10 weekends traveling throughout the Midwest to campaign for Democrats. I should have stayed home and barbecued. But now I'm involved. And I plan to campaign against all of them in the primaries and the general elections in 2010 and 2012 if they vote for anything less than a robust public option.
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04:02 AM on 09/04/2009
Might I encourage you to direct your energy at that subset of Democrats, and Republicans, who are the problem, and focus your efforts on those campaigns with the best chances of flipping a seat from a Corporatist to a candidate who pledges support for, at a minimum, universal coverage through a public insurance option, or, ideally, support for single payer.

My only disagreement with Cenk's above post is that it needs to emphasize that *some* Democrats are problematic, and our ire and energies need to be directed at them -- while our praise and donations need to flow to those in support of real reform.
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Tony Dickey
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10:59 PM on 09/03/2009
As you would say, Cenk: CALM DOWN! This is America, not France. If Obama abandons the public option its because it won't pass.

Why'd we vote for this guy? Because we would have been screwed if the RepubliCants had prevailed. Obama is a man we elected to do the best with what he has.

Health reform is about 80% passed. We will have reform. I don't expect perfect. It is our job to make sure Dems stay in power so we can get it perfect later. The WORST thing we can do is abandon the man when he needs us most.
03:55 AM on 09/04/2009
No public option (not to mention single-payer) = no reform.
04:39 AM on 09/06/2009
A bill without a public option is not reform. A bill without a public option, but with mandated coverage, is nothing less than a massive windfall for the insurance industry (which might explain why their stock prices have been skyrocketing in recent weeks).

A bill without a public option, but with mandated coverage, and after a private, closed-door meeting with lobbyists from Big Insurance and Big Pharma (do the research, Cenk linked to it) is nothing short of an utter and total sellout of Obama's campaign promises to the interests of the corporate overlords.

Enough is enough.
09:17 PM on 09/03/2009
The problem with public option is not with Obama, it's with Democrats. There is nothing Obama could do if Democratic votes aren't enough to pass the provision.

Cenk, why don't you leave Obama alone and go after the Dems that do not want public option?? So, I think you are overreacting and misplacing your ire. Yes, Obama needs to stand his ground and declare his preferences--that's what he's expected to do Wednesday at the Congress.

Yes, we need public option, but not all Democrats agree on that. I myself want a strong public option. But the reality is that Democrats (especially the Blue Dogs) are equally as corrupt as the Republicans when it comes to health care industry. If Obama drops public option for now, maybe he could get enough votes to make the reforms necessary. Public option is only a part of the whole package. Although, I am not a lawyer, but I think after the whole thing has passed the Congress, there could be a "conference" where some modifications could be made.

Let see what he's gonna lay out on Wednesday, then you can overreact, Cenk.
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04:07 AM on 09/04/2009
> Yes, Obama needs to stand his ground and declare his preferences--that's what he's expected to do Wednesday at the Congress.

Ummm... except, and I hope it turns out to be wrong, the stories circulating all indicate that Obama will not come out in support of the public option in that speech.

As Cenk indicates above, the Obama Administration, likely lead by Rahm Emanuel, regularly chastise those to their left, the strong progressives and liberals, but acquiesce to and appease nearly all to their right. Obama continues to praise Grassley and work with Snowe, even though no Republicans are going to vote for his bill, while Emanuel rips into the Progressive Caucus for declaring they won't vote for a bill lacking the public option.
04:40 AM on 09/06/2009
Only problem is that Obama (and by proxy, Rahm), have been the ones leaning on Congress to make sure no public option is part of the bill.

In other words, not only are the not part of the solution, but...
08:21 PM on 09/03/2009
Cenk, could you kindly tell me the process by which Obama can get the Public Option passed with only Democrats voting for it, then get the Energy Bill passed, the Afghanistan war sorted out, the culmination of the Iraq War and fix the economy, rescinding the ban on gays in the military, refom immigration?
In this political climate?
On what planet do you live?
I am now as frightened of the left as of the right. We can't govern. We do not know that politics is the art of compromise.
Obama is head of a party that is unable to think strategically.
Cenk, think for God's sake, think!
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BrettnCalgary
09:16 PM on 09/03/2009
Compromise is a two way street, if only one side does it it is called surrender.
09:58 PM on 09/03/2009
I suggest you get from under the bed, chicken little and think. Obama can use the process called "reeconciliation" in the Senate where 51 vote majority which the Democrats hold. The Republicans can stall procedurally but it will pass in time. A messy process but the way Obama refused to lead, to state what he wanted and would fight for in legislation while handing it to Congress to draw up has caused a mess. Obama is afraid to pass legislation with only Democrat votes even when his party controls the House, the Senate, and he's President because he is the "bipartisan President."
The Progressives in Congress are firmly backed by their constituents and probably hold on their seats in 2010 and 2012. It's the Blue Dogs who will likely be voted out whether they support the public option or not. If Obama flip flops on his campaign promises on the public option, he still loses those Blue Dog seats. The will be voted out anyway. But if he drops the public option thinking progressives will have no where to go in 2010 and 2012 and will still come out and vote Democrat. He's mistaken. Many will cease donating, volunteering, and voting Democratic because it's useless. A most recent poll shows that the biggest decline in Obama support is in young voters, exactly the people who energized and gave the edge in winning red states. I for one just delete all messages from Obama people and stopped donating.
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AMERIKA
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08:14 PM on 09/03/2009
Frankly, I am for a single payer model. Nothing else makes any sense at all As for the politicians, they are not likely to bite the hand that feeds them. So expect them to capitulate to the pressure of the insurance companies demands. Single payer or nothing is my mantra. Everything else is a sham. Obama cannot survive as a President into a second term if this fails because the Progressives will simply stay home. Like me.
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augusteighteenth
07:57 PM on 09/03/2009
Cenk I love you to death, have your TYT site on my bookmarks bar and subscribed to you via youtube and here on HuffPo...but I really hate it when you read something NOT from the horses mouth and get all fired up over it...its like you fall for speculation then you lead those that follow you to jump on that speculative band wagon...its good that you inform us of whats being said but try not to get all worked up over hearsay until you know its factual..you know?
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redsox09
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10:40 AM on 09/04/2009
I agree totally.
04:43 AM on 09/06/2009
Yeah, how dare Cenk take the President's own words (from his chief of staff, press officials, and his own mouth) and use them to imply that the President actually meant what he said?

How ludicrous of Cenk!
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Helzapoppin
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07:30 PM on 09/03/2009
Agreed 100%.

I voted for Obama in 08 and helped him turn NC blue. But now, as far as I'm concerned, the best thing Obama can say in his address to Congress is "I resign."
05:53 PM on 09/03/2009
O sold his "credibilty" for $20mil to Big Health. He took that amount from them in 08. The top recipient by a very wide margin.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=H&cycle=2008&recipdetail=A&mem=Y&sortorder=U
05:44 PM on 09/03/2009
You need to chill. If you're so concerned as you say you are then get out there and organize marches and demonistrations and encourage people to do the same.

I want a public option too, I need it desperately, but I also understand the huge wall that Obama is up against, the wall of corporate terrorists and the status quo that has been in development for the last 28 years.

Those who want to public option need to contact their reps, the WH and attend town halls and make their voices heard, loudly.
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06:32 PM on 09/03/2009
"Those who want the public option need to contact their reps, the WH and attend town halls and make their voices heard loudly."


Been doing all of that, and you're right about the need for marches and protests. The main reason you're right about that is because, if you've followed Obama's rhetoric and positions closely, you know he has never intended to get a strong public option in place.
If we the people don't make him do it, he'll simply try to sugarcoat a corporate friendly mess.
Yes, Obama is up against a wall of corporate terrorists and status quo, but he was also given a strong mandate, huge public support and a totally Democratic Congress to get this done. Advantages a true leader could have used to claim victory. So far, Obama's been squandering his advantages.
06:56 PM on 09/03/2009
Actually, Obama made it real clear, America has to default back to pre-election Single Payer demands. Democrats and Republicans took Single Payer off the table with their switch and bait public option. Well, the 2010 election becomes real easy, now. No need to discuss which party an incumbent belongs to. No Single Payer, you're OUT! It's just that easy. They can take their bribes and go home. Independents like Shilling, will have to produce hard evidence that they will pass Single Payer, or they're OUT, before they get IN! I am sure the Green Party and Nader can put together a platform that brings Democracy to America.
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Tony Dickey
Futurist-Historian-Astrologer
11:06 PM on 09/03/2009
Yeah, right. Vote those Republicans in so they can lower our taxes into a crushing deficit.