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Dear Rabbi Shmuley, Can You Leave Dan Savage Alone?

Posted: 05/03/2012 10:10 am

This open letter comes after a few days of comments and articles written by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a proud supporter of gay rights and a dear friend of mine. He has lambasted Dan Savage for certain remarks made in reference to the Bible. Rabbi Shmuley went so far as to compare Dan Savage to the "Westboro Baptist Church of the left." Seeing this headline, I was shocked that Rabbi Shmuley was able to conjure such an analogy about a man who created the It Gets Better Project dedicated to helping save the lives of LGBT teens all across the world. On the other hand, the Westboro Baptist Church and other right wing fanatic groups have literally called for the death of homosexuals, likening LGBT people to pedophiles, murderers and many other abhorrent comparisons that don't even deserve to be mentioned. Dan Savage has never crossed such a line.

Savage did refer to specific verses that call for the murder of homosexuals as "bullshit," but it was in the context of speaking "as someone on receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible." Rabbi Shmuley and many others have seen Savage's remarks on the Bible an "attack" on the Bible. What these critics fail to observe is that we generally do ignore those parts of the Bible that Savage criticized. Savage is not the first person to question the applicability of such passages. In Judaism, the death penalties prescribed in the Torah have been suspended since between 30 B.C.E. and 70 C.E., and Jesus famously said, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her," in defense of a woman accused of adultery -- a sin to be punished by death according to Leviticus. Had I been speaking, I'm not sure that I would have tied such strong wording to the Bible, which many people believe to be holy and find meaningful. Nonetheless, Savage's point still stands.

The taking of isolated verses from the Bible as justification for hatred and vilification of LGBT people is complete and utter nonsense that is inconsistent with the Bible and religious tradition. The Mishnah (Sanhedrin 1:4) required that the death penalty be inflicted only after trial by a Sanhedrin composed of 23 judges and with the testimony of at least two witnesses of the act itself who must also have issued a warning beforehand that the act would lead to execution and that the criminal stated his willingness to commit the act despite this. Not even confession was accepted as evidence.Throughout the Talmudic literature, this whole subject is viewed so much unease that the rules in the literature made the death penalty virtually impossible to impose. Talmudic law on the death penalty emphasized the primacy of the commandment to "love your neighbor as yourself" (Leviticus 19:17). A similar appreciation for the Bible and the commandment to love one's neighbor was emphasized by Jesus in the Christian Bible. The commandment to love one's neighbor is one that seems often ignored by those on the right.

Generally, we all ignore the things in the Bible that today would be considered barbaric, inconsistent with basic morality and contemporary understandings of freedom and justice. Savage gave specific examples of things that are ignored, such as the Bible's justification of slavery, the prescribed execution of a woman if she isn't a virgin on her wedding night and many other things. Indeed, most of the world was shocked by the Muslim and Yazidi stonings of Soraya Manutchehri and Du'a Khalil Aswad, despite these penalties being based on similar ancient customs and religious texts. If we interpreted everything in the Bible as applicable today, we would be living in very different times, and I'm fairly certain that they wouldn't be good times.

Like Rabbi Shmuley, I was raised as an Orthodox Jew with the Torah as my guide to morality and life, but I do not believe one needs the Bible to teach them the basic tenets of human decency. It is not because of the Bible that I do not murder or steal. According to the Bible, all human beings were created in the image of God and have knowledge of good and evil. Such values are enshrined in the traditions of other cultures, both religious and secular. Moreover, the Bible does not prevent immorality, even in the communities that recognize it. I have seen firsthand self-identified religious people stray from the core belief system of their religion and commit terrible crimes against others. I understand that the actions of adherents do not define their religion, but at the same time, one cannot claim that the Bible is the only source of morality. In many ways such a position is offensive to all people, especially the good upstanding citizens of our world who have never had any association with the Bible or its teachings.

Rabbi Shmuley, I've been a welcomed guest in your home many times and hope to be in the future. I cannot tell you how incredible it was for me to be able to bring my then-partner to your house for a meal on the first night of Rosh Hashanah. You have opened the minds and hearts of people on important issues, and I hope you keep doing so. However, I think it is important to realize that Dan Savage has never ever spoken anything like these right wing groups. These groups use the Bible to justify their hatred against LGBT people. I think that most moral people would agree that that is wrong. To compare Savage to people who are filled with such hatred is absurd and reminiscent of the disturbing trend to misrepresent anti-bullying activists as bullies themselves. Even if this were the case, the Bible does require "an eye for an eye"; nonetheless, there is a world of difference between speaking out against bullying and bullying. Unlike those fanatics on the right, Savage never advocated for death, pain or condemnation of any group of people; right wing groups fight ferociously against basic rights and freedoms through legislation and widespread reach in conservative communities. In the context of being someone who suffered abuse justified by some by portions of the Bible, Savage referred such passages as "bullshit." While his choice of words may not have been the best, there is little to fault in his actual argument.

Dan Savage is a hero in the eyes of many people in this world who found themselves without hope or comfort during the most trying of times. I am one of those he has comforted and given hope.

 

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SouthJerseySteve
I am NOT in a Skim Milk Marriage!
03:49 PM on 05/05/2012
Oh snap! Someone blasting passages from the Bible! I still have the URL bookmarked for the Prop 8 The Musical YouTube site and see it ever once in awhile. It's so true among both Jew and Gentile that we pick and choose which passages from the Bible we accept, and which we reject. If there wasn't so much interpretation, there would be only one religion, not 50+ variations of Protestants.
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parrishable
Igitur ex fructibus eorum cognoscetis eos.
02:08 PM on 05/05/2012
To all of those who have commented that Dan Savage engages in "anti-Christian" bullying, I offer the following from an article that can be found at http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/education/parents/welfare/Bullying/whatisbullying.htm:

'What is bullying?

Definition

The Office of Children and Young People’s Services’ Anti-Bullying Strategy defines bullying as a persistent, deliberate attempt to hurt or humiliate someone.

There may sometimes be misunderstanding about the meaning of the term ‘bullying’: one-off incidents, whilst they may be very serious and must always be dealt with, do not fall within the definition of ‘bullying’.

Types of bullying

There are various types of bullying, but most have three things in common:
1. It is deliberately hurtful behaviour.
2. It is repeated over time.
3. There is an imbalance of power, which makes it hard for those being bullied to defend themselves.'

Take special notice of point 3: There is an imbalance of power. Please tell me how Dan Savage, or a group of Dan Savages, or an entire nation of Dan Savages can level, let alone tip, the balance of power with Christianity when there are MULTIPLE BILLIONS of Christians in the world.

Promoters of the idea of "anti-Christian" bullying are doing exactly what the author indicts you of: misrepresenting what bullying is -- and 'misrepresenting' is merely another word for LYING.

Shame on you.
09:54 PM on 05/04/2012
Chaim, I hope Rabbi Shmuley's children are getting a better education than you did. I am not even sure why he cares about what Dan Savage has to say about the bible. But I guess his comments gave him some additional publicity on the Internet and for some people, any publicity is good publicity.

Does the rabbi have anything to say about your secular education at a Hasidic school, or the lack thereof? Is he using his influence to try to get things changed?

Last weekend, I went to see the documentary "Bullying". It made me so depressed that I walked out before it was over.

There is a better than 50% chance that at least one of the Rabbi's nine children will turn out gay. If that turns out to be the case, maybe it will make the Rabbi more sensitive to the problems that gays face on a regular basis.
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nlightenup
Retired psychologist, responds to open minds.
05:08 PM on 05/04/2012
Good man. It's not easy to be both prophet and bridge. You do both.
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02:30 PM on 05/04/2012
Wait, Shmuley is pro-gay?

Now I'm really confused. Has he heard of this guy named "Dan Savage"? Surely they will be BFF's since they have the exact same positions on the issue....
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RhymesWithRight
No, I don't get my news from Fox or Limbaugh.
01:32 PM on 05/04/2012
The problem is that what Dan Savage did constituted bullying.
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Inis Magrath
I comment, therefore I am.
02:25 PM on 05/04/2012
If you think what Dan Savage said is "bullying", you wouldn't last a week as a gay kid in high school.
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RhymesWithRight
No, I don't get my news from Fox or Limbaugh.
09:05 PM on 05/04/2012
By the very definition that Savage applies, what he did was bullying.
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02:36 PM on 05/04/2012
It is so good to hear someone on the right finally having issue with bullying. Truly refreshing.
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RhymesWithRight
No, I don't get my news from Fox or Limbaugh.
09:04 PM on 05/04/2012
I spend time stopping it at the school where I teach.
12:07 PM on 05/04/2012
Wonderful, spot on, hear hear, accolades, praise, and appreciation.
10:08 PM on 05/03/2012
Well said! A very good antidote to Rabbi Shmuley's embarrassing, poorly thought out articles.
07:59 PM on 05/03/2012
Sure, Dan isn't anti-Bible, but he sure does make a habit of kicking trans people when they're down. Six of one, a half-dozen of the other.
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02:32 PM on 05/04/2012
Exactly. When I think of Dan Savage, I think transphobia. It is the entirety of his career, really.
03:23 PM on 05/05/2012
He's done a lot of good, but his record on some things (trans people, bi people, and a few others) is terrible. The problem is, instead of examining his behavior, he just counters any criticism with arrogant sarcasm and basically goes "lalala I can't hear you I can do no wrong".
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07:02 PM on 05/03/2012
Chaim. One cannot defend the indefensible. Projection, denial, and obfucation are weak defense mechanisms for boorish behavior and ultimately intolerance on Savage's part. Savage can throw all of the stones he wants but he will reap what he sows.
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Phyllis Copeland
Shout into the void, don't weep in the darkness
01:31 AM on 05/04/2012
The difference here is that homophobe groups aim their rhetoric at people, calling them names, demonizing them and encourage violence toward them. Savage has only expressed anger at the abuse of biblical scripture to justify that kind of libel and violence. One rallies against people, the other against speech and ideals. Which reflects true hatred?
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02:36 AM on 05/04/2012
Hi Phyllis. Well this is exactly how the pro-inclusive warriors lose their credibility. Defending the indefensible.
Savages language and demeanor cannot be defended through rationalization or projection. It was simply wrong. His actions do accomplish one thing though: Those with open minds who might like to reconsider past prejudices are driven away.
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LA RAM
06:17 PM on 05/03/2012
Mr. Levin,

While I appreciate so many of Rabbi Boteach's writings, that article attacking Savage was not one of them.

Thank you so much for writing your article above. Thank you very much.

I hope Rabbi Boteach can reassess some of the views he expressed in that article.

I would like to think that he was just rushing to meet some deadline (either self imposed or owtwardly imposed, it makes no difference) and did not totally think through that article and some of its arguments before submitting it. No one is perfect but G-d.
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
02:36 PM on 05/03/2012
You know the guy personally. What does he say about the "11th Commandment"?

THOU SHALT DO ANYTHING FOR PUBLICITY.
02:21 PM on 05/03/2012
Why? Why should Rabbi Shmuley leave Savage alone? Why *shouldn't* someone stand up to Dan Savage, who is nothing but a hypocrite and an anti-Christian bully? Oh, that's right! In this day and age, it's perfectly acceptable to bully Christians and yet claim to oppose bullying as a whole. And to think that I had forgotten that inconvenient fact in the hopes that *all* bullying (even bullying that is committed against Christians) would be condemned.

Hypocrisy. Ya gotta love it.
06:23 PM on 05/03/2012
Hunh, I must have missed something. When did Dan Savage tell Christians to kill themselves? That it would be better that they were dead? I've never seen him say anything like that, but then again I don't read everything he's written. Maybe you can post a link?
07:30 PM on 05/03/2012
What? How is it hypocrisy to observe that justifying murder and REAL abuse of minorities based on verses from the Old Testament is nonsense? How is it anti-Christian? Don't Christians believe that Jesus replaced the Old Covenant?

If the OT commandments applicable to the majority (e.g., death for adulterers and non-virgin brides) are ignored, how is it anything but unBiblical hypocrisy to insist that two verses in Levitcus justify abuse, hatred and demonized of a minority group? No one has suggested that Christians be abused, hated or demonized.

Did not Jesus say: "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law -- justice, mercy and faithfulness"; "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to"; "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, `Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye"?

Projection. Ya gotta love it.
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CBinKY
Tolerance doesn't require "taking it" from a bully
12:21 PM on 05/04/2012
It boils down to the basic premise that when a "Christian" tells you that you are wrong and sinful, they call it love. But when you return the favor, they call it persecution.
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Catriona
Wha daur meddle wi me?
02:02 PM on 05/03/2012
Clear and well-stated. This comment from a married hetero.
01:07 PM on 05/03/2012
Brilliant and to the point as always Chaim. Well done.