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'Don't Ask Don't Tell' and Military Chaplains

Posted: 05/11/10 04:26 PM ET

Forty-one retired chaplains recently wrote the president and Secretary of Defense, imploring them not to repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" statute. We find their core argument astonishing; i.e., any new law barring discrimination against gays and lesbians would violate the free-exercise clause of the 1st Amendment; it would infringe upon the chaplains' rights to discriminate in accordance with their fundamental religious belief that gays are "immoral," and that same sex relationships are "harmful and sinful."

Such a change, these evangelical chaplains argue, would "threaten" their religious liberty, and thwart "their ability to freely share their religious beliefs." Moreover, they contend chaplains would be forced to avoid or abandon key elements of their faith and practice, which they bemoan, is "the very antithesis of religious freedom."

We strongly disagree. The repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" would have absolutely no effect whatsoever on chaplains' duties, roles and responsibilities. The chaplain corps exists not for chaplains to practice exclusively their own religious beliefs, but to ensure that all service members, including chaplains, can exercise their faith. Military regulations ensure that chaplains, in fact, may preach and teach the theological and moral tenets of their distinctive faith groups, but only in the context of ministry and worship for those who voluntarily participate. Further, if a chaplain's theological or ecclesiastical views preclude performing pastoral ministries to which a service member is entitled, the chaplain remains duty bound to provide assistance to the service member through appropriate referral to another chaplain who can and will perform the requested services.

Chaplains are trained to be pluralistic -- to ensure that all service members can obtain spiritual guidance, counseling, and access to their religion in accordance with the tenets of their faith. Fully qualified clergy who are endorsed for the military chaplaincy by their denomination or faith group swear at the time of their commissioning to minister within the military's pluralistic and multicultural setting. They must respect the rights of others to hold and practice religious and moral values different from their own. The common denominator for all members of the military is the Uniform Code of Military Justice which governs behavior and conduct, though it does not attempt to regulate matters of religion and culture.

Perhaps these forty-one chaplains have lost sight of the purpose of the chaplain corps. They seem to believe the free exercise of religion as guaranteed by the 1st Amendment is their exclusive and absolute right without regard to the constitutional rights and liberties of the troops whom they are called to serve. How else can they argue, with apparent sincerity, that their own free exercise of religion supersedes anti-discrimination laws? Under such a theory, President Truman would have been unable to integrate blacks into the armed forces, for many chaplains then believed that integration was sinful, and against God's wishes. Years later, the military would not have been permitted to recognize interracial marriage, which many believed violated scripture. Or, what if another group of chaplains adhere to the scriptural punishment of death by stoning for children who talk back to their parents? Does their sincere religious belief shield them from criminal responsibility for throwing stones at a stubborn and disrespectful child?

It is not our place to argue that these forty-one chaplains have a flawed theology. They are free to believe what they choose, but they are not free to force others to submit to their beliefs. We have met many gays and lesbians whose religious beliefs embrace love as a supreme ethical virtue, and for whom a committed same-sex relationship is sacrosanct and the central focus of their spiritual lives. We cannot conceive of any reason why the 1st Amendment should not equally protect their sincere beliefs.

Our collective experience as chaplains in the Army, Navy and Air Force convinces us that the Constitution's free-exercise clause extends religious freedom until it interferes with another's right to practice their religion and conscientious beliefs, or until it violates the law. Accordingly, military chaplains are free to practice a fundamentally exclusive theology until it infringes upon the rights of others who adhere to a more inclusive and affirming spirituality.

These forty-one chaplains, as all military chaplains, gave their oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the United States. Their oath is not to uphold the Bible, nor to uphold laws only insofar as such are consistent with their particular understanding of the Bible. Simply put, in matters of civil, criminal and military law, the Bible does not trump the Constitution. If federal law bars discrimination against gays in the military, then all service members, regardless of their faith, must abide by the rule of law.

It bears repeating that the chaplain corps exists but for one purpose and one purpose alone: to secure the free exercise of religion for all of America's service members. Chaplains cannot proselytize, nor can they put their own beliefs above those of others. And, they most certainly cannot castigate, ridicule or repress others in the free exercise of their values and beliefs.

In their letter, these forty-one chaplains complain that an anti-discrimination clause would morally compel them to resign. In their own words, they lament that "chaplains will confront a profoundly difficult moral choice: whether they are to obey God or to obey men." This argument is as dangerous as it is disingenuous. We have little concern of some threatened mass exodus of evangelical chaplains from the military. But, perhaps chaplains who are unable or unwilling to obey the rule of law and honor the Constitution should resign. And, for those who do, our military and the chaplaincy will be stronger as nothing weakens morale and unit cohesion more than bigotry and unjust discrimination.

Ironically, these forty-one chaplains must sense that their long held and archaic attitudes of sexual supremacy and discrimination are unacceptable societal values either in or out of the military. That underlying fear is best expressed in their own words: "By raising homosexual behavior to the same protected status as innate, innocuous characteristics like race and gender, the armed forces will cast the sincerely held religious beliefs of many chaplains and service members as rank bigotry comparable to racism."

 
 
 
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12:25 PM on 05/29/2010
I believe that hiring chaplains with government funds to promote religion is a violation of the First Amendment itself.
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suqnswallow
08:28 PM on 05/28/2010
My partner is a combat surgeon serving on his third tour in Iraq. If he complained of having to save the lives of people he knew were bigoted against gays, and used the First Amendment as justification for this expression, he would be thrown in the brig. I left a promising career in the Marines when I met my partner so we would not be outed by a bunch of fanatics. It makes me wonder how many of these chaplains have betrayed the trust of servicemembers who may have confided in them that they are gay. When I served in Desert Storm, I served alongside 3 other gay soldiers and there was never once that our integrity was questioned by members of our squad. Repealing this archaic law certainly does not mean we are all going to start wearing dresses, painting everything pink and singing Broadway showtunes. It just means that we will have the opportunity to serve with integrity without the fear of blackmail or repercussion.
01:24 PM on 05/21/2010
Chaplains Camp, Gundlach, and Rhyne,

Thank you for contributing to the discussion on how repealing DADT would harm chaplains' and Service members' religious liberty. I respectfully disagree with your argument. You underestimate the risk posed to religious liberty by changing the law and, in making several of your points, show that many of the 41 chaplains' concerns are accurate. I reply to you at length here:
http://blog.speakupmovement.org/church/religious-freedom/the-debate-over-chaplains-religious-liberty-heats-up/

Again, thank you for engaging the issue. And, even more, thank you for the years of service you gave to our country.

Respectfully,
Daniel Blomberg
05:57 PM on 05/13/2010
As a U.S. Army chaplain, Iraq war veteran (Al-Ambar and Baghdad) and a person committed to justice
I commend these courageous men for speaking truth. Bigotry is ugly and evil--it is especially ugly in places that are nominally committed to honor and service, where character and merit are expected to count. The time is way passed due to bring DADT to an end. It is a farce that is most used to abuse human beings who have chosen to serve their country. We can and we will do better. Thanks be to God.
06:07 PM on 05/13/2010
axios it is Al Anbar, for those of us who have been there, and I would hazard a guess that you have not read the letter posted by the 41 bigots who are generationally challenged. But I agree with you. It is high time that we remove any constraint on our military members who serve so bravely. By virtue of their sacrifice and service, they should not have to obey any rules or laws. Laws and rules only serve as a means to abuse our fine troops, by sneior leaders who have nothing better than to abuse our fine troops. Thanks be to God that one day there will be no laws to obey!! Amen brother.
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GDWhiteman
Christian mystic iconoclast
07:51 PM on 05/13/2010
Unjust laws beg for repeal. In a secular nation like the US, laws made to satisfy the religious beliefs and interpretations of some few concerning behavior between consenting adults is a farce and a shame on those who would put such burdens on others.
08:20 PM on 05/13/2010
GD, I concur. Whose backwards prudish religious views made children and sheep off limits? For that matter, let's talk about that whole pesky Thou Shalt Not Murder command. What backwards religious fundamentalist came up with that? And stealing? A barbaric commitment to cultural milieu that is no longer relevant in our country today. You rock GD, thanks for those keen insights. Down with any law that is based on someone culture's religious views. Keep 'em coming GD, your logic is undeniable.
09:02 PM on 05/13/2010
Freedomnotseparation: Yes, sorry. Al-Anbar. post traumatic spelling disorder...
09:05 PM on 05/13/2010
happens to the best of us...even with spell check.
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Marty Mazzocco
03:53 PM on 05/13/2010
Ignorance knows no bounds. Let them quit.
12:17 PM on 05/13/2010
Chaplains are pluralistic with regards to religion and most take their job very serious, and as a chaplain they are "hired" professionals by the military to provide services for our men and women of the armed forces, the military knows in advance what a Preist, Minister, Imam, Rabbi, etc believes in and should not ask them to compromise their beliefs. Because they are hired and not recruited they should not have to compromise their faith with regards to religion. For example when the military hires a lawyer, he/she is hired to perform a certain job and they can freely choose to accept a case or reject it based on their feelings about the case. simply put they are not forced to defend someone guilty if they dont want to - but someones got to do it. My point here is - if the military repeals the Dont Ask Dont Tell they should hire chaplains that believe in those values. Why force those that were hired because of their belief to suffer. Problem solved hire some chaplains that are in favor of the repeal.
12:40 AM on 05/13/2010
Well...as I uderstand it child molesters can't be changed either. Most experts agree that they are "incurable." So...they must have been born that way. Right? And...using the argument of some, for which there is no evidence by the way, we would have to stop discriminating against child sex offenders as well. I for one am tired of the bigotry and malice that many people visit upon these poor souls whom God has made the way they are. I am tired of them being singled-out by close-minded bigots who don't understand them. Equal rights for child molestors I say, and down with the player haters.
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GDWhiteman
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12:04 PM on 05/13/2010
Is this your idea of a slippery-slope way to relax aversion to your affection for sheep?
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
03:41 PM on 05/13/2010
Child molesters have equal right to engage in sexual activity with consenting adults. They have the same--zero--right to engage in sexual activity with children. As to this being unchangeable, if they cannot control their desires, they can still be held accountable for their acts. It is the act, not the uncontrollable desire, which is both sinful and unlawful.
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kennethhdeome
Why can't both sides be wrong?
10:36 PM on 05/12/2010
As “adoantarel” implies in his post from yesterday, why is homosexuality such a sticky issue considering the laxity now presented towards past objections?

Maybe it's been awhile, but I seem to remember a very large argument concerning nature vs. choice. If we're born gay and it 's not a choice, then it has to be as protected as race, color, gender, etc. Also, and perhaps more importantly, this would mean God made these people this way. So if it's not a choice, first you get thrown in jail for "gay-bashing," then God might have something to say to you later.

To me, this argument is a bit surreal. I can remember some 28 years ago being at a party and feeling someone was staring at me. When I turned to look, there across the room was a man about my age giving me those "bedroom eyes." A little shocked, but not being a particularly insecure or aggressive person (6'-5" and athletic keeps you out of a lot of trouble), I took a moment to ponder the situation.

My conclusion was simple, how can I get upset with this person given that my own staring had made young women uncomfortable? It actually seemed its own form of justice, or at least that someone had a sense of humor.

Later I realized there was a difference, because I could readily defend myself against another man, while any woman in question wouldn’t have stood a chance against my strength.
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02:43 AM on 05/14/2010
It's highly unlikely you'd have had to defend your virtue, as the overwhelming majority of gay men will take a polite "no" for an answer.

;)
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kennethhdeome
Why can't both sides be wrong?
03:55 PM on 05/14/2010
Or maybe I was being a bit vain in expecting interest in the first place?

Though I was talking more about about those insecure, straight idiots who have to fight everyone to prove to themselves (and their idiot friends) that they are "real men."
06:27 PM on 05/12/2010
Most of the evangelical hacks serving as chaplains come from bible colleges which are basically the fundamentalist Christian equivalent of a madrassa. They're the Christian Taliban. Obviously they should simply be ignored.
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GDWhiteman
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03:51 PM on 05/12/2010
"Forced to resign"? Because you can't tell people they're going to hell for being homosexual? Don't let the door hit you in the back side on your way out. Only 41 signed this concoction - out of how many retired chaplains?

As a former Army "grunt", I can tell you that, when the bullets are flying, the last thing you're thinking about is whether or not the guy next to you wants to kiss you. For those of you living in a dream world, there have always been homosexuals in the military, and the only people who ever caused any problems were those individuals who were so insecure in their own sexual identity that they felt obligated to make a fuss so people would know they were straight.
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04:23 PM on 05/12/2010
From an old squid to an old grunt, thanks and amen, brother!
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kennethhdeome
Why can't both sides be wrong?
04:48 PM on 05/12/2010
You just reminded me of an old joke during Colonial and Revolutionary times...something like the British Empire wouldn't have existed if they had excluded gays from the army and navy because they wouldn't have had enough soldiers or sailors to defend themselves, let alone conquer anyone.

A few years ago, I tried to explain to a female friend who came out of a public restroom chatting away with a perfect stranger that men are typically so homophobic they won't even make eye contact let alone talk to each other in a room where they are all exposed. She didn't believe me.
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DAVROS1
11:33 PM on 05/12/2010
It's true, what you say about men in public restrooms. But I'm not sure I would call it homophobia. I think its more about sexual insecurity. I have been in gay bars where the same behavior can be observed.
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GDWhiteman
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09:14 AM on 05/13/2010
Phobia? Or fear of being perceived as gay? Or, as Davros1 notes, insecurity in some cases (the orientation perception probably not an issue at a gay bar).
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02:33 PM on 05/12/2010
Guess these guys think Jesus was wrong.
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MeRainyday
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02:09 PM on 05/12/2010
Here is response from retired high level Chaplain:
Here is the issue. For decades, fundamentalist pastors were not undergraduate degreed, let alone held graduate degrees in theology. There were exceptions that defined the rule. Oral Roberts brought the AG's into a professional mainstream clergy with his Tulsa-based university. Later Roberts and Falwell created undergraduate and graduate schools of theology or ministry.

The Armed Forces have changed many regulations and policies, but one remains firm. ALL commissioned officers in the Chaplain's Corps of Army, Navy or Air Force must hold a graduate degree in divinity, theology or religious studies/ministry.

In the eighties and nineties, the Fundies started closing down their unaccredited "bible colleges" and sending their men or women to the accredited seven years of schooling required. The purpose was to flood the critical shortage of Protestant chaplains which is a chronic issue. There categorise Protestant chaplains as liturgical or non-liturgical. The former include Greek Orthodox, Anglicans, Polish National Catholics, Old Catholics, Episcopalians, Anglican Conservatives, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians etc...while the non-liturgical are usually non-infant baptising clergy like the Southern Baptists, Assemblies of God, Pentacostal, and thousands of fundamentalist churches and the "non-denominational" guys.

This fact, along with the many laymen and women fundies who support these guys, you have fundy Family congressmen who build megachapels on base for this new Armed Forces Fundy Religion. e.g. see Air Force Chapel
These guys are the impetus for the DADT issues against repeal.
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MeRainyday
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02:05 PM on 05/12/2010
Here from retired high level Chaplain:
Here is the issue. For decades, fundamentalist pastors were not undergraduate degreed, let alone held graduate degrees in theology. There were exceptions that defined the rule. Oral Roberts brought the AG's into a professional mainstream clergy with his Tulsa-based university. Later Roberts and Falwell created undergraduate and graduate schools of theology or ministry.

The Armed Forces have changed many regulations and policies, but one remains firm. ALL commissioned officers in the Chaplain's Corps of Army, Navy or Air Force must hold a graduate degree in divinity, theology or religious studies/ministry.

In the eighties and nineties, the Fundies started closing down their unaccredited "bible colleges" and sending their men or women to the accredited seven years of schooling required. The purpose was to flood the critical shortage of Protestant chaplains which is a chronic issue. There categorise Protestant chaplains as liturgical or non-liturgical. The former include Greek Orthodox, Anglicans, Polish National Catholics, Old Catholics, Episcopalians, Anglican Conservatives, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians etc...while the non-liturgical are usually non-infant baptising clergy like the Southern Baptists, Assemblies of God, Pentacostal, and thousands of fundamentalist churches and the "non-denominational" guys.

This fact, along with the many laymen and women fundies who support these guys, you have fundy Family congressmen who build megachapels on base for this new Armed Forces Fundy Religion. EG see Air Force Chapel! These guys are the impetus for the DADT issues against repeal.
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Jim Killingsworth
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02:05 PM on 05/12/2010
In my view, the vast majority of those speaking out from their own military service perspective are from the generations. If these chaplains are retired, they would have to be at least 38 years old, which would mean that they were ordained ministers at age 18. But since officers are required to have a college degree, it would increase their ages to about 42 at a minimum. If they are seminary graduates, then it would be even older. The same would apply to all the retired generals and admirals McCain keeps citing in his oppostion. The operant word here being retired. Of course most who reach that high of rank usually would older than these usually be older than these chaplains.The senior military leadership in the Pentagon would also be older.

These people are from a different generation which consisted largely of macho homophobes. My experience in the military, including a tour in Vietnam is that most of the chaplains I saw were hardly Father Mulcahy from MASH. One vivid memory in Vietnam is of our chaplain, shotgun in hand, drunkenly trying to force some Vietnamese farmer's geese to fly so he could shoot them.

I served with some quietly openly gay soldiers, and I can assure you that most of us didn't care as long as they had our backs under fire.
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MeRainyday
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01:42 PM on 05/12/2010
Well written, someone please send this to Sec. Gates, Admiral Mullen and President Obama ASAP.