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Posted: September 29, 2010 12:09 PM

Exposed: Global Warming Deniers

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If the world's top climatologists are all convinced that the burning of fossil fuels is causing dangerous global warming, why do the media keep giving equal time to deniers? No matter how strong the scientific consensus becomes, the campaign to discount climate change -- financed by the fossil-fuel industries and conservative foundations -- continues. Fortunately, so does the effort to set the record straight and tell people the truth. The past year has brought three superb books documenting the paid political attack on climatology, which is nothing less than a paid political attack on science itself.

Climate Cover-Up: The Crusade to Deny Global Warming (Greystone Books) was written by James Hoggan, owner of a successful Vancouver, B.C., public-relations firm, and his colleague Richard Littlemore. They are not radical environmentalists. They are businesspeople appalled at what other businesspeople have done to discredit global warming and help give the practice of public relations a bad name. With insider knowledge of PR tactics, the authors explain how deniers, funded directly or indirectly by industry, use their powers of persuasion in advertising and in factoids and viewpoints planted in the media. Hoggan and Littlemore reach a stark conclusion: "Reputable newspapers and magazines are today acting in a confused and confusing manner because a great number of people have worked very hard and spent a great deal of money in an effort to establish and spread that confusion . . . We have lost two decades -- two critical decades -- during which we could have taken action on climate change but didn't."

The Climate War: True Believers, Power Brokers, and the Fight to Save the Earth (Hyperion) is the work of Eric Pooley, a deputy editor at Bloomberg Businessweek and a former colleague of mine when I was an editor at Time magazine. A truly fair and balanced look at troops on both sides of the climate battle, Pooley's book focuses on the so-far-futile effort to get tough climate legislation through Congress. We see how senators and representatives no longer represent the people. They represent the industries in their districts. That's how the coal industry or giant utilities get a veto over particular provisions in a climate bill -- sort of like Al Capone getting to help shape anti-racketeering laws. Pooley spent time with two of the deniers' main lobbying groups, the Competitive Enterprise Institute and the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity. The author didn't need to pass much judgment, since the fallacies of the denier arguments are self-evident to any thoughtful reader. Clean coal? That's as believable as safe deep-sea oil drilling.

The most scholarly of the three climate books is Merchants of Doubt: How a Handful of Scientists Obscured the Truth on Issues from Tobacco Smoke to Global Warming (Bloomsbury Press) by Naomi Oreskes, professor of history and science studies at the University of California, San Diego, and Erik M. Conway, who previously wrote a history of NASA's atmospheric-science program. Spanning the past half-century, the book shows how a group of maverick scientists aided and abetted the assault on their own profession. Fred Seitz and Fred Singer, for example, were accomplished physicists prominent in the scientific establishment in post-war America. They were also Cold Warriors who were fervently anti-Communist, an ideology that expressed itself in suspicion of anything that interfered with free markets. Later in their careers, they began to move out of their areas of expertise to challenge all types of government regulation. Seitz, a former president of the National Academy of Sciences, worked for the tobacco industry -- distributing money for research that cast doubt on the scientific consensus that cigarettes were killing smokers. Singer, with many financial backers in the conservative corporate community, challenged evidence of the dangers of second-hand smoke, acid rain, and the ozone hole. Both Seitz and Singer became leading deniers of global warming. They were, in essence, scientists for hire.

It's not surprising that business executives would muddy scientific issues to protect their livelihoods. What's harder to explain, though, is why the supposedly savvy media keep devoting print and airtime to the deniers.

Journalism, of course, has always been a business, subject to the whims of the people who own the presses. But never before have the mainstream media been so concentrated in the hands of giant global conglomerates. Increasing competition from the Internet and from hundreds of cable-TV networks has put severe pressure on the profits of traditional news media. And that has led to a marked decline in the quality of journalism.

The heart of the problem is that the media have cut their staffs -- especially correspondents in the field who do actual reporting. Science reporters are among the most expendable. Time, for example, has encouraged most of its veteran science reporters and writers to take early retirement. Paradoxically, even as the amount of digital space and airtime available for news has ballooned, the number of reporters has shrunk.

With so much space to fill, the remaining journalists are overwhelmed and have little time for in-depth reporting. The easiest way to fill space or airtime is to give it over to advocates on particular issues -- to substitute opinion for reporting. Journalists simply present the opinions of advocates on both sides of an issue, regardless of their relative validity. Unsure whom to trust and afraid of getting things wrong or being accused of bias, unenterprising journalists go for "balance," even if one side is the entire scientific community and the other side is a bunch of lobbyists.

Debates between advocates are perfectly appropriate for issues that involve value judgments, such as abortion. But science is not about opinion or ideology or values. It is a process in which the truth is gradually discovered and agreed upon. The world is not flat. It is round. Journalists will always say that they seek "balance" to maintain "objectivity," but in reality "balance" is a poor substitute for careful investigation and presentation of the facts.

Striving for "balance" also serves the media's increasingly desperate quest for readers and ratings. Contrarian views and loud arguments make stories more entertaining. "Just the facts, ma'am" may have worked for Detective Joe Friday in Dragnet, but it doesn't work for Glenn Beck and Keith Olbermann.

Here's a recent example of bad "balanced" journalism. One day last May, I happened to catch NBC correspondent Peter Alexander (no relation to me) doing anchor duty at sister network MSNBC. He introduced a segment this way: "Should schoolchildren be taught that man's impact on the climate, on global warming, is in fact a fact -- or should they be presented with both sides of the debate? Mesa County, Colorado, and Grand Junction High School have become ground zero in the teaching of what some say is junk science. Others consider it settled science." A group called Balanced Education for Everyone, Alexander explained, had gathered 700 signatures on a petition urging the school to stop teaching global warming unless it also presented the other side. What followed was a brief debate between a representative of the Union of Concerned Scientists and someone from the Independent Women's Forum, which created Balanced Education for Everyone. The Independent Women's Forum is "independent" of everyone except its conservative funders. One of its directors is Larry Kudlow, the doctrinaire CNBC host who seems to think that free markets can do no wrong. Why should MSNBC give such a group airtime to speak about science education? Why parrot pronouncements that the findings of the National Academy of Sciences are "junk science"?

It's a sad state of affairs when a late-night comedian has a better understanding of science than an NBC correspondent. But that may be our fate. Bill Maher also spotted that MSNBC story and had this to say on his HBO show: "Mainstream media, could you please stop pitting the ignorant versus the educated and framing it as a debate? . . . Devastating worldwide climate change is happening, whether you phone in for it or not."

This post originally appeared in the July-September issue of Conservation magazine:

 
 
 
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
07:49 PM on 10/09/2010
The Pentagon: Global Warming Is Real and a Destabilizing Force

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From the Pentagon's Feb. 2010 Quadrennial Defense Review:

Climate-related changes are already being observed in every region of the world, including the United States and its coastal waters. Among these physical changes are increases in heavy downpours, rising temperature and sea level, rapidly retreating glaciers, thawing permafrost, lengthening growing seasons, lengthening ice-free seasons in the oceans and on lakes and rivers, earlier snowmelt, and alterations in river flows.

Assessments conducted by the intelligence community indicate that climate change could have significant geopolitical impacts around the world, contributing to poverty, environmental degradation, and the further weakening of fragile governments. Climate change will contribute to food and water scarcity, will increase the spread of disease, and may spur or exacerbate mass migration.

While climate change alone does not cause conflict, it may act as an accelerant of instability or conflict, placing a burden to respond on civilian institutions and militaries around the world. In addition, extreme weather events may lead to increased demands for defense support to civil authorities for humanitarian assistance or disaster response both within the United States and overseas... Proactive engagement with these countries can help build their capability to respond... DoD has undertaken environmental security cooperative initiatives with foreign militaries that represent a nonthreatening way of building trust, sharing best practices on installations management and operations, and developing response capacity.

http://www.defense.gov/qdr/images/QDR_as_of_­12Feb10_10­00.pdf
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Richard2
03:56 PM on 10/04/2010
The logical extension of environmentalists calling climate critics deniers is seen in the new Splattergate film by by the environmental group 10/10. When the right of people to disagree is not respected, people become targets of name calling, of insults, and of little red buttons that blow them up.

It is time for responsible environmentalists to refer to their fellow citizens in language that is respectful to them.
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
04:48 PM on 10/04/2010
Do you finally admit that the Earth has statistically significantly warmed over recent decades, R2?

If you still can't admit that scientific fact (amongst others) then you are still a science denier.

Hope this helps.
03:46 AM on 10/03/2010
What puzzles me about the deniers is their inability to consider that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Doctors tells us this and we believe them. We take the shot in the arm. We reduce fat intake or sugar intake or salt intake. But even though energy efficiency is economical to everyone that has insulated, bought a fuel efficient vehicle, reduced, reused and recycled it is ignored by government s and individuals. Plastic bottles of water are economic madness but people still buy them. They are also an environmental nightmare. So why can't people do what companies such a 3M do and save money, which increases profits by saving energy.
09:48 AM on 10/03/2010
Puzzle no more, pinkibus. I'm pretty sure I'd be classed as a 'denier' by you and others who so casually use that term so offensively. But guess what, I certainly do believe that 'an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure'. Quite astonishing, eh?
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
11:37 AM on 10/04/2010
SecondTime: "I'm pretty sure I'd be classed as a 'denier' by you and others"

Of course you are a denier, SecondTime - amongst other things you believe that that the Moon violates the laws of physics. But hey don't let reality get in the way of your science denial, not that you need me to tell you that.
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Reality has a scientific bias
07:35 PM on 10/09/2010
SecondTime claims that the Moon violates the laws of physics, citing the following by ClimateChangeFraud.com:

"Stefan-Boltzmann never intended for his numbers to be applied to a three-dimensional rotating planet."

Not only were Stefan and Boltzmann different people but one cannot have been educated in atmospheric physics and not known who they were. That claim is laughable on its face - a scientific equivalent of asserting "Lennon-McCartney never intended for his songs..."

ClimateChangeFraud.com is a joke.

SecondTime: "Second, of course I agree that [the Stefan-Boltzmann] equations were not intended to be applied to ... a 3 dimensional rotating planet, or for that matter, its moon or moons. They invented an abstract construct, the black-body to allow the development of a simple model. But this little old planet is neither simple, nor a black-body."

In physics this little old planet - and also the Moon - are not regarded as ideal black bodies but instead as gray bodies. Thus for many scenarios the Stefan-Boltzmann *grey body* - not black body - equation is applied to them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan-Boltzmann_law

Moreover for boundary calculations the Stefan-Boltzmann black body equation is applicable to planets and moons in any event.

Did I mention that ClimateChangeFraud.com is a joke?

ClimateChangeFraud.com would be even more of a joke if there weren't so many scientifically illiterate and gullible science deniers like SecondTime who take clueless sites like it seriously.
05:09 PM on 10/04/2010
The denier label applied by you-all in the shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later crowd is wearing thin. Skeptical scientists are concerned that a pound of prevention may not even produce an ounce of cure. Your very arguments demonstrate how knee-jerk reactions lead to unintended consequences. If doctors were always right, they wouldn’t need malpractice insurance and we wouldn’t need the FDA. People who can’t afford efficient energy are taxed at higher levels to pay the subsidies on your energy. After scaring everybody about how polluted water is, now you complain they drink out of plastic bottles.

Why people don’t save money by saving energy? If you look-before-you-leap (just had to use one more cliche), you may find saving money doesn’t always save money.
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Reality has a scientific bias
05:59 PM on 10/04/2010
Chic: "The denier label ... is wearing thin"

The denier label is unfortunately accurate. Climate science deniers for example deny one or more of the following scientific facts:

* The Earth has warmed significantly over recent decades, to what may be the highest level in two thousand years or more.

* Anthropogenic greenhouse gases including CO2 -- which is generated mostly by fossil fuel burning -- warm the Earth. Without greenhouse gases including CO2 the Earth's average temperature would be below freezing.

* The atmospheric CO2 concentration has increased by more than a third since the dawn of the fossil fuel era, to the highest level in at least 800,000 years.

* The scientific evidence strongly indicates that said increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration is due to anthropogenic CO2 emissions, and there is no other viable scientific explanation for said atmospheric CO2 increase.

* There is a strong correlation between said atmospheric CO2 increase and said recent warming.

* Known natural forcing agents of past global warming - including changes in orbital cycles, increases in solar radiation, and natural increases in atmospheric CO2 - cannot explain said recent warming. Neither has any scientific theory to explain the bulk of said recent warming other than anthropogenic global warming survived scientific scrutiny.

Again those are all scientific facts. Which is to say:

The scientific evidence supporting anthropogenic global warming is overwhelming.
06:16 PM on 10/02/2010
Has anyone determined exactly what is the ideal average temperature for the earth?? Maybe we need a little global warming to get there.
07:06 PM on 10/03/2010
There is no such thing as an "ideal" temperature.

However, there is a relatively narrow temperature band in which human civilization developed, based on:
-water availability
-agriculture everywhere tuned to local conditions and expectations of climate
-sea level
-other resources, like trees not being bothered by bark beetles.

We are on our way out of that band, perhaps far out, and the indirect effects hit faster than the actual difference in temperature. For instance, we'll get much less precipitation in places like the US SotuhWest, but with higher temperatures, there is more water in the atmosphere, and it comes in more storms, in places such as the upper Mid-West and North East. So the effects are really regional.

People might read the 5-page discussion for their own region, written for a general audience by experts for the US Global Climate Research Program in 2009:
http://www.globalchange.gov/publications/reports/scientific-assessments/us-impacts
http://www.globalchange.gov/publications/reports/scientific-assessments/us-impacts/regional-climate-change-impacts

This is good to share with children / grandhchildren, since it will help them know what to expect if they want to stay in the same area, or if they want to move, where might be good.
11:31 AM on 10/02/2010
The "Deniers"...

Prominent Climatologists Skeptical of AGW Alarm

http://www.populartechnology.net/2010/09/prominent-climatologists-skeptical-of.html

Eminent Physicists Skeptical of AGW Alarm

http://www.populartechnology.net/2010/07/eminent-physicists-skeptical-of-agw.html

NASA Astronaut Legends Skeptical of AGW Alarm

http://www.populartechnology.net/2010/06/nasa-astronauts-skeptical-of-man-made.html
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
11:39 AM on 10/04/2010
There goes PT again - posting links to his own denier sites that even a scholar he cites wanted to not be associated with.
06:48 PM on 10/04/2010
Please name the scholar in the links presented that does not wish to be associated with it. After you are done embarrassing yourself get back to me.
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Reality has a scientific bias
07:21 PM on 10/04/2010
Poptech: "Please name the scholar in the links presented that does not wish to be associated with it."

We've been there and done that, but again here's Dr. Rogder Pielke Jr. admonishing you putting his studies and those of his father on one of your lists:

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Better Recheck That List

My attention has just be called to a list of "450 Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of "Man-Made" Global Warming." A quick count shows that they have 21 papers on the list by me and/or my father. Assuming that these are Hypothesis 1* type bloggers they'd better change that to 429 papers, as their list doesn't represent what they think it does. ...

the title of your [Andrew/Poptech's] post is:

"450 Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skepticism of "Man-Made" Global Warming"

There is nothing in my writing that fits in this category.
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http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2009/11/better-recheck-that-list.html
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
07:23 PM on 10/04/2010
As I have explained to you repeatedly, Poptech, the following is a blatant lie:

"Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/gop-chooses-lord-hitler-y_b_565126.html

When are you going to remove that blatant lie from your forum page?

http://z4.invisionfree.com/Popular_Technology/index.php?showtopic=2050
08:29 PM on 10/04/2010
It is not a lie and as I explained to you it will NEVER be removed from the page. Deal with it.
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Publicola
Reality has a scientific bias
09:15 PM on 10/04/2010
Poptech/Andrew: "It is not a lie"

Yes, again the following assertion is a lie:

"Climategate U-turn as scientist at centre of row admits: There has been no global warming since 1995"

I've already gone through why in explicit mathematical and scientific detail already with you:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brendan-demelle/gop-chooses-lord-hitler-y_b_565126.html

Here, again learn more:

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2010/02/climategat­e_distorti­ons

Poptech/Andrew: "and as I explained to you it will NEVER be removed from the page."

I'm well aware that you keep refusing to take that lie off of your PopularTechnology web page. Others here may not be, however, so I'm bringing it to their attention.
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myth buster
11:12 PM on 10/01/2010
Maybe because Gaia Worshipers keep threatening to kill people: http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2010/10/01/most-honest-political-ad-of-all-time/#comment-15472
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
11:34 PM on 10/01/2010
Boy, you obviously don't watch much British comedy do you.
01:06 PM on 10/03/2010
Can you point out where the comedy is in that tawdry little movie? No jokes. No satire. No wit. No fun. Just a shocking abuse of their freedom of speech, a freedom they explicitly wish to deny others in the most brutal way.
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Richard2
10:57 PM on 10/01/2010
A report on the new Royal Society position paper says:

" a summary of the science states that "some uncertainties are unlikely ever to be significantly reduced". Unlike Climate change controversies, a simple guide - the document it replaces - it avoids making predictions about the impact of climate change and refrains from advising governments about how they should respond.

The new guide says: "The size of future temperature increases and other aspects of climate change, especially at the regional scale, are still subject to uncertainty."

The Royal Society even appears to criticise scientists who have made predictions about heatwaves and rising sea levels. It now says: "There is little confidence in specific projections of future regional climate change, except at continental scales."

It adds: "It is not possible to determine exactly how much the Earth will warm or exactly how the climate will change in the future.

"There remains the possibility that hitherto unknown aspects of the climate and climate change could emerge and lead to significant modifications in our understanding."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/09/30/britains-leading-scientific-institution-softens-position-global-warming#ixzz11AMbYlPX
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
11:52 PM on 10/01/2010
For those of you who don't want your information pre-digested, here is the full report. A very good summary of the proof of AGW, but please read for yourselves instead of letting someone pluck a few statements out of context to make you think this body has changed its mind about AGW.

http://royalsociety.org/climate-change-summary-of-science/
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Austintatious
06:21 PM on 10/02/2010
thank you for the reference
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Richard2
11:04 PM on 10/03/2010
Yes, thank you for the reference for the full report.
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chrisd3
Excelsior!
07:12 PM on 10/02/2010
Yes, who wouldn't go to Newsbusters for a summary of a Royal Society statement on science?
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Amarnath Amarasingam
Book: The Stewart/Colbert Effect: Essays on the Re
01:29 PM on 10/01/2010
I don't mean to shamelessly self-promote, but readers may like to know that this situation is getting more and more complicated. The last thing we need are deniers. http://huff.to/c7ZCoZ
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Amarnath Amarasingam
Book: The Stewart/Colbert Effect: Essays on the Re
01:27 PM on 10/01/2010
I especially enjoyed Hoggan's book. This is what it means to live in a post-fact society, where everything becomes debatable, and everything is reducible to partisan bickering, even something as serious as the fate of humankind.
11:55 AM on 10/01/2010
Global warming alarmists and some luvvie collaborators have just produced this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSTLDel-G9k&feature=player_embedded

Is there depth of depravity they will not plumb for the cause? A cause based entirely on the outputs of speculative, rigged computer models universally acknowledged to be unfit for prediction.
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
11:57 PM on 10/01/2010
As I said before, if you watched more British comedy this wouldn't be nearly so intimidating to the faint of heart.

I notice now too how the rhetoric has changed from no global warming, to it's not us!, to it won't be as bad as they say because the earth has been through worse and come out okay so why should we change anything, because I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP ANYTHING! AND OH YEAH! THE DEFICIT!
09:44 AM on 10/03/2010
You seem a bit agitated, mothegrace. Else why all the strawmen? Let me see: (1) the movie I linked to was not comedy, there is not a single joke in in it, not one. (2) who has ever denied that some global warming has occurred (in answering this, please do quote from other alarmists inventing the same straw man)? The climate anywhere is always either warming or cooling, over whatever space or timescale you care to choose (3) what won't be 'as bad as they say', and who are 'they'? (4) change is inescapable for everyone and everything (5) who doesn't want to give up headaches, malaria, bad luck, rotten food, unreliable energy, etc etc? (6) does 'deficit' mean more to you in upper case, or have you merely gone totally bonkers towards the end of your typing and started to shout at us, your gentle readers?
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Reality has a scientific bias
11:46 AM on 10/04/2010
SecondTime: "Is there depth of depravity they will not plumb for the cause?"

That's pretty funny coming from a guy who claims that the Moon violates the laws of physics. Gotta love your source for that - ClimateChangeFraud.com - too, as well as science denial in general.
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dragonmaster
06:26 AM on 10/01/2010
The media is so 'mesmerized' by Fox' News 'fair & balanced'- and their ratings- that they (the media) are confused - they have 'science' & politics' intertwined.

Since about 97% of scientists have come to the empirically based conclusion that Greenhouse gases are changing the worlds climate- it perplexes me that 3% of the deniers are give 'equal time' with scientists who know what the reality is regarding CC.

Perhaps the media has to keep its profits high- and ratings up- and feel they need to lie and misinform the public about the true dangers we are facing- so they allow a small group of paid off 'scientists' from the Oil industry to be taken seriously.

When the full brute force of climate change hits us in the face- will the media still be talking about Lindsey Lohan>?
01:22 PM on 10/03/2010
It will come as a shock to you that your '97% of scientists' is actually 75 out 77 self-selected respondents to a survey question, a survey sent out to 10,000 people. Just over 3,000 responded. In anyone's book of statistical junk, this has to have a place. Just download the pdf from this link to see these shocking numbers from their source: http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2010/08/97-consensus-is-only-76-self-selected.html
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dragonmaster
04:17 PM on 10/03/2010
your assessments from the link tou sent me are very biased-
I mean really 'hockeysctick' c'mon

the schtick is from you----- give me more credit then sending to some denier web site
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11:54 AM on 10/04/2010
In fact, the overwhelming majority of the over 3,000 scientists who responded to that University of Illinois at Chicago poll agree that anthropogenic global warming is real.

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-01/uoia-ssa011609.php

Since you SecondTime think the Moon violates the laws of physics that reality might be a little challenging for you as well.
11:18 PM on 09/30/2010
Charles this is a fantastic essay on this serious issue that just gets washed away in the national dialog. As much of a believer as I have been of the reality of global warning, there have been moments when I doubt due to the subtle and not so subtle anti-science messages out there. It is amazing how non truth is so readily accepted by large portions of the country when well marketed. These books seem to highlight that it is money that drives that acceptance, money from people who stand to make more money if they can keep our Congress from recognizing and taking action to help seriously reverse global warming. Thanks, Jim H.
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Style Doggie 2
01:00 AM on 10/01/2010
If you categorize the messages as 'anti-science', why do they cause you doubt? Are McIntyre or McKitric's criticisms based on anything less that pure science and statistical analysis? Do you believe the hockey stick is an accurate portrayal of earth temperature record? Do you know why the IPCC believes a doubling of atmospheric CO2 will cause an increase of 3.5C in earth's temperature? Are you more qualified than Richard Linzen, Fred Singer, Patrick Michaels or Roy Spencer on this subject? Is the author? Do you believe the emails from climategate didn't reveal a bunker mentality and out and out fraud? It's a healthy skepticism and experience with radical environmentalist hyperbole that 'drives my acceptance.' Do you know that the IPCC says that even if the Kyoto Protocol were to be adopted by every nation and no one cheated that it would only delay their projections of global warming by one year over a century? How much in lost economic growth and increased energy prices are you willing to bear to halt this non-problem?
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
05:48 AM on 10/01/2010
"McIntyre or McKitric's criticisms based on anything less that pure science and statistical analysis? "
Yes, they have an agenda against AGW, make up lies to support their claims, and ignore truths that run against them.

"Are you more qualified than Richard Linzen, Fred Singer, Patrick Michaels or Roy Spencer on this subject?"
Yes, they have an agenda against AGW, make up lies to support their claims, and ignore truths that run against them.

Those people you are listening to are not honest. Credentials don't matter when you follow a dishonest path that ignores the truth. Fred Singer was wrong about tobacco, wrong about SDI, wrong about acid rain, and now is wrong about AGW.
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Charles Alexander
09:03 AM on 10/01/2010
Thank you, Jim
10:37 PM on 09/30/2010
Unfortunately this is what capitalism does to "experts". The earth is about to undergo a huge change. Maybe if we deny it, nothing will happen.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
07:23 PM on 09/30/2010
Since the Earth's average temperature has fluctuated over time, hence the "Ice Age", it would be premature to assign a cause to a putative warming trend.
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MikeWebster
Always happy.
09:05 PM on 09/30/2010
Except for the proof that increase CO2 is causing the warming that is picked up by the satellites that measure reduced OLR from the Earth.
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Style Doggie 2
12:46 AM on 10/01/2010
How do satellites measuring reduced OLR prove CO2 is the culprit, or that is causal? What is the proportion of CO2 caused reduced OLR vs. other greenhouse gases?
04:49 PM on 09/30/2010
In point of fact, it is those few scientists that oppose global warming that generally have a stake in it. The oil and coal companies have buckets of money, and pay their propagandists well. If you have scientific credentials and want to sell your integrity for cash, you could do no better than become a denier. Not only would you be in line for lots of gravy, but you would have the field practically to yourself!