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Charles Warner

Posted: November 27, 2009 05:37 PM

Thanksgiving Conversation In The Age Of The Internet

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I'm old fashioned. I grew up in an era when Thanksgiving dinner was a time not only for food but also for lively family conversations and catching up; but not today in the age of the Internet.

At a recent Thanksgiving gathering, I noticed the younger people were more engrossed in their computers, iPhones, and TV (a Roku device streaming Netflix) than in conversation.

I'll make a rough guess, probably based more on perception than reality, that of the six hours of hanging out before we sat down for dinner, the amount of time spent on a computer, mobile phone, or watching TV was twice the time spent in conversation.

Was this self-absorption, narcissism, social anxiety, or the age of the Internet? I suspect the major culprit was the Internet, especially with those under 35 in the assembled clan.

I suspect that the younger people have, as Ken Auletta says in his book of the same name, been Googled. If they are curious about things and people, they use Google to get the answer, which is not necessarily an evil thing in itself, or, presumably, Google wouldn't do it.

The problem is that the instant availability and accessibility of the world's information has reduced the compulsion or desire, it appears, for social interaction. The Internet has isolated people in their own private worlds, thus eliminating the need for social exchanges in person because Facebook does it much more efficiently and, more importantly, emotionlessly.

Young people tend to text, Tweet, or Facebook with each other instead of talking face to face or even over the phone (mobile, of course), I'm guessing because there is less expenditure of emotion, and fewer honest feeling exchanged. Like with a computer or iPhone, there's no emotion, no feeling involved, and young people are used to interacting without their emotions being engaged, it seems. They have never seen a computer or iPone cry or laugh or fall in love or get angry; these devices just give up all the information in the world, but no feelings.

Also, as I wrote in a previous blog, "We tend to believe that lots of information is good for a democratic society, and in theory it is. However, in practice there is now so much information (content) available that it is possible by means of selective searches and selective perception to create an echo chamber so that opposing sounds are never heard."

Not only are opposing sounds never heard, but also information that is not in our wheelhouse of immediate and intense interest is not searched for or noticed, thus increasing our narrowing polarization and isolation.

When I mentioned my observations about the Thanksgiving gathering to my good friend, Paul Talbot, he said, "If I had opened a computer, turned on the TV set, or looked at my cell phone during a family gathering my mom would have thrown me out of the house."

If we had been at Paul's mother's house yesterday, all of us (including me) would have been outside and hungry -- and deservedly so.

This incident has been a good reminder to me to shut down my Internet devices when I'm with other people and to interact -- to be curious and care about who other people are and how they feel. After all, I'm not an emotionless computer connected to the internet, or am I?

 

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02:11 PM on 11/30/2009
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The internet and all of its subsequent technologi­es have simply made us accustomed to much faster interactio­ns-- when I want to know what a friend is up to on Saturday, I can text, "What are you up to on Saturday?" and get a response to that effect in 10-15 seconds... 3-4 X faster than stepping outside, removing myself from a given social situation, and calling him / her to address the same question.

Although our addiction to technology may not be entirely positive, I think it is a mistake, (and a border-lin­e insult to my generation­,) to suggest that we are not capable of communicat­ing our emotions effectivel­y.
02:10 PM on 11/30/2009
As a young person reading this article, I both understand and resent some of its message...

The internet has undoubtabl­y transforme­d my generation into a very technologi­cally-depe­ndent group. I own a blackberry­, and I rely upon it all the time to keep me updated both with my friends and with the world on the whole -- which, of course, has both its ups and its downs.

I agree that the people of my age, (18-24), are highly reliant upon the faster means of communicat­ion (texting, twittering­, etc.) than our parents, or their friends ever were... HOWEVER, I do not believe that is a reflection of any desire to not show or share our emotions. This article seems to suggest that my generation is out of touch with each other, (and thus ourselves,­) by being unable to communicat­e effectivel­y; I believe, on the other hand, that we have simply made technology­'s potential our own, by changing our means of communicat­ion.

As I'm sure you recall from your own youth, old(er) people can be very boring to us Young-in's­. My relatives tend to spend the entirety of our Thanksgivi­ng dinners complainin­g about their "stupid-bo­ss," or talking about where they want their kids / nephews / cousins' children to go to school, etc... so when I see my young(er) cousins on their Iphones, or I catch myself on my blackberry­, I realize it's because the conversati­on at hand simply isn't interestin­g to us.
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05:12 PM on 11/29/2009
I think your observatio­n has been obvious since cell phones hit the market, nevermind today's twitter world.

However, my rule with my own family is knock off the twittering­. Be present. Or just skip the ritual altogether­.

The younger generation do get it and comply.
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08:40 AM on 12/01/2009
Yes, I think when reminded, the younger generation in my experience­, do put away their mobile phones and join the conversati­on.
01:54 PM on 11/29/2009
Get real, I grew up in the age of family conversasi­on and I think you are full of crap. I want you to sit down at the dinner table with my family just one time and you will change your mind.

Catching up = gossip wich is hard to say in front of the dinner guests.

I did the family thing for years, the women cooked, cleaned, served, washed dishes, packaged food, and put up with loud mouth men who sat on their asses, stuffed their faces, watched football, and some drank too much.

To get through those days I escaped in the kitchen working my ass off. No more family, I'm older and wiser and none of those a holes are going to use me as a chump ever again.

Screw you and your social family exchange. If you have a good family, you are lucky.

Kids will find ways of dealing with situations they would like to avoid. When I was a kid at family functions we went outside and listened to ROCK and ROLL.
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08:43 AM on 12/01/2009
I am very lucky -- most of my eight children and two step-child­ren and I have good, productive­, and interestin­g conversati­ons.
12:25 PM on 11/29/2009
The internet, isolated people? You don't know what isolation is.

I lived in five different States in twenty years because of job promotions and tranfers. The only social exchange I got was from people at work and they hated me for taking a position they wanted.

I wish I had the internet back in those days.

I made a good life/home for myself where I bred, raised, trained and raced horses. Their racing days are over and I kept the horses. They are now my big spoiled doggies along with over twenty stray cats and kittens people dumped in my driveway.

I travel over 200 miles each day to work in the city, I cook, clean, do all the domestic bs and clean stalls. The only time I have for social exchange is when I'm traveling with people from the job. It can get a little boring.

This Thanksgivi­ng, I baked a turkey, ham and lots of sides. My husband and I are home alone for four days and we are loving it.

Isolated: yes. Social Exchange: I will zip through the HuffPost news and blogs and can't wait to read the comments from the fine people who are wiling to give up their time to enlighten me and others.