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If A Fetus Felt Pain, Would You Still Be Pro-Choice?

Posted: 07/27/2012 11:01 am

Let's get one thing straight: The American Medical Association says there is little to no evidence that a fetus feels pain before the third trimester. But this hasn't stopped nine states from passing "fetal pain" abortion legislation banning abortions after 20 weeks (or earlier) based on this scientifically dubious concept.

The latest is a law in Arizona to take effect on August 2nd banning abortions 18 weeks after fertilization, the earliest time limit in the nation and two weeks earlier than the other states with fetal pain laws: Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Nebraska and Oklahoma.

Still, the concept of fetal pain is cringe-worthy. And it made me wonder, if a fetus could feel pain before the third trimester, might that change a pro-choice person's view on abortion? Would it change mine?

Personally, I had never heard of the fetal pain theory until I read Allison Yarrow's piece in the Daily Beast about President Reagan's connection to fetal pain. President Reagan exposed the then-little-known medical concept to a wide audience during a speech to the Annual Convention of Religious Broadcasters in 1984, using the fetal pain argument to promote abortion restrictions. The debate was kindled further by a film released the same year called The Silent Scream in which an abortion is narrated "from the victim's perceptive."

Now, 30 years later, lawmakers in states across the nation are still using the fetal pain theory to pass restrictive abortion legislation.

Using dubious science to promote reproductive restrictions is troublesome. Just as with required counseling, waiting periods and Virginia's mandatory ultrasound bill signed earlier this year, disguising anti-choice bills under a veil of health concerns is an underhanded way to restrict a woman's right to choose.

Do lawmakers actually believe, despite medical evidence, that a fetus under 20 weeks can feel pain? Uncertain. But there is no mistaking that the official opinion of these states is that fetuses do, indeed, feel pain, and need legal protection for that pain. The laws are explicitly clear in their purpose. Nebraska's law declares its objective is "to protect pain-capable unborn children," and that "the unborn child reacts to stimuli that would be recognized as painful if applied to an adult human, for example, by recoiling."

Fetal pain legislation affects a minute percentage of abortions; only 1.4 percent are performed at or after 21 weeks. But since this is currently the law for millions of women in this country, I believe it is worth questioning whether the fetal pain argument, if true, would even be valid to restrict reproductive rights. Even if a fetus could not survive on its own, does the ability to feel pain make it more in need of legal protection than if it couldn't? If you still supported abortion rights, would you want anesthesia for the fetus before the procedure?

Protecting the rights, health and economic opportunities of American women would still take precedence for me if fetal pain were real. But the medical fact is that fetal pain is, in all likelihood, not real. And until lawmakers stop using any means necessary to restrict abortion rights and start accepting medical science, fetal pain is a dangerous political instrument American women must start seriously fighting against to protect their rights.

 

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Let's get one thing straight: The American Medical Association says there is little to no evidence that a fetus feels pain before the third trimester. But this hasn't stopped nine states from passing ...
Let's get one thing straight: The American Medical Association says there is little to no evidence that a fetus feels pain before the third trimester. But this hasn't stopped nine states from passing ...
 
 
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CJWebber
I think we all love teachers.
07:53 PM on 08/14/2012
Fetal pain is unlikely since the fetus isn't conscious (the same reason they 'put you out' for an operation), but the pain of childbirth is undisputed.
08:57 AM on 07/30/2012
Yes, even if the fetus felt pain, I would still be pro-choice.
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jms0764
05:01 AM on 07/28/2012
I just love the Conservatives who will make laws to take away a woman's right to choose because it's a sin to kill the fetus and harm the human life. Then they want to cut the funding for social programs that help poorer people get housing, social services, after school programs, etc. Yet they want to cut every one's taxes including their own. Because they promised that if we gave them tax cuts and incentives, they would supply jobs. Buts now, we need jobs and they are laying people off. They lied.
03:01 PM on 07/30/2012
Well, they're all about pain-capable fetuses (at a time when they're not actually pain-capable), the second they're actually pain-capable, even if they're still in the womb (current research says this probably about 2 weeks prior to the end of normal gestation, around 35 weeks or so, but no earlier than 30 weeks), they don't get much protection, or medical care, and they have no problem at all about cutting off food aid to pregnant women at any point along the way.

They don't care about pain, in fact most of them seem to be eager to ensure that the woman suffers as much as possible to pay for getting pregnant.
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jms0764
04:30 AM on 07/28/2012
Do abused and unwanted, homeless, hungry children feel pain? Do children shot in drive by shootings feel pain? Do children raped and prostituted, and sold into human trafficking because they were unwanted, feel pain? So, quite honestly if an aborted fetus feels the pain of a squashed bug, as opposed to a child being starved to death, beaten to death, or die from an abscessed tooth, I'll have to go with the squashed bug.

You know, abortion rights aren't JUST about a woman's RIGHT to choose, but it's also about when a woman needs to choose. I don't think that abortion should be used as birth control by any means, but it's preferable to a child being neglected and abused and dying a very slow painful death.
04:09 AM on 07/28/2012
I've always felt as a woman that before you even think of having sex for the first time that you should decide how you would handle it if you found yourself pregnant. Hey surprises happen even under the best of birth control methods. Because after you find yourself pregnant it's a little late for wondering. That being said I personally feel that male law makers don't have the right to make laws regarding what a woman should or should not due regarding a pregnancy. Unless of course they plan on paying to feed, clothe and educate the child.

But to answer the author's question....I think some women would choose not to have abortions if they knew the fetus felt pain. But other women would do what they had to do not to be pregnant. They might feel bad even guilty about hurting the fetus but they would still have the abortion.
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Tanya Nguyn
Trust Women!
11:46 PM on 07/27/2012
The thing that must be remembered in all of these debates, which is so easily set aside by the right, and anti choice, is that virtually no one gets an abortion after 20 weeks. That's 5 months if you can't do math.

Women who are 5 months along, do not suddenly wake up and say "shoot, i forgot to have my abortion".

Women who get abortions in the 5th month almost exclusively do so for medical reasons. That is - their own health or the health of the baby. and no other reason.

To limit these abortions is to say that politicians and not the doctor and (likely grieving) family should be making this decision. WHAT UTTER NONSENSE..

If you can show me anything that suggests women in their fifth month are doing this "for convenience" then we can talk. But you can't, cause that is not what is going on.

It is time to start trusting women. IT is their lives, and in this case, their WANTED babies. Things go wrong, and these women (and their families) should be being supported, not traumatized further by being told they don't have all their options.
03:05 PM on 07/30/2012
It depends on how you define that phrase. The numerous rants, as well as the texts of some of these bills that are passed and ones that are squelched on the floor state make it clear that a woman choosing an abortion to protect her own life is doing so for 'convenience', breathing a convenience, living is a convenience, sparing the family and the fetus the pain and agony of being born with a severe health condition that the family is not ready to handle is a "convenience". Getting treatment for an aggressive cancer is "convenience".
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Tanya Nguyn
Trust Women!
03:46 PM on 07/30/2012
sighs..... yep.
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C Kevin Provance again
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04:36 PM on 07/27/2012
I find it annoying lawmakers care so much about the pain of a fetus, while caring not at all about the pain of people already born. I guess as soon as one is born, they stop caring about what happens.
03:07 PM on 07/30/2012
It's far easier to care about imaginary things rather than actual ones. For instance if they cared about fetuses or embryos at all, would they be objecting so loudly to regulating what the corporate persons can dump into the environment? Many of those things are endocrine disruptors that negatively affect a developing embryo.

There is a pretty apparent disconnect between what their rhetoric on abortion and everything else they say and do.
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star999
My coat is flat and my ears are purdy.
04:04 PM on 07/27/2012
Political wrangling my A$$. This is a medical procedure. It should be between a woman and her health care provider to determine if it is safe, cost effective, ethical, and necessary. Period.

All the rest of this is the Ol' White Men shaking their rattles, creating overreaching government vehicles to keep women in their place. It has nothing to do with protecting 'Life'. If these people cared about 'Life' even a little, they would see the each child born received adequate food, necessities, education, and care. They would provide benefits for parents so that no family would have to sleep on the streets because the parents couldn't find work and lost housing. They would fight the death penalty and legislate for education and work training in prisons, and for the needy. They would advocate for mental health screenings and universal healthcare.

But they don't.
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ruthtruth
seeker of truth, willing to listen
03:42 PM on 07/27/2012
I have absolutely no right to tell someone else what to do with their nown body.The TP/GOP play these games with their version of facts but it's not up to them or anyone else but the mother and in some cases tha father to decide what the choice would be. Circumstances could make an abortion the decision that's the best thing for the child. Not every child developes normally and some have no chance of survival. Who is to say what the parents should do? Not me, not the TP/GOP , not any political party.
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dancingstu
Christian, liberal lawyer
12:44 PM on 07/27/2012
Why does it seem like every GOP proposal is part of a gigantic plan to increase the number of people living in poverty in America?
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Gestas
Mountain Man
12:34 PM on 07/27/2012
The Republicans feel your your pain until you gasp that first breath of air..After that your on your own.
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Gestas
Mountain Man
12:51 PM on 07/27/2012
AND, Lets hope you have Insurance..It's a mean and scary world out here...
03:11 PM on 07/30/2012
They only feel imaginary pain, they don't seem to feel all the negative consequences of their very favorite persons, the corporations, whose unregulated actions keep many fetuses from every reaching the point where gasping is an option.