Charlotte Hilton Andersen

Charlotte Hilton Andersen

Posted November 17, 2008 | 04:05 PM (EST)

Obama's Armageddon Evidenced by Increased Gun Sales?

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Anarchy. Guns. Armageddon. Conspiracy theories. Typical fodder for conservative talk radio shows, I was surprised to hear these topics broached by the mostly inane but slightly left-leaning morning radio show on KDWB (Minneapolis) this morning. And not only were these topics discussed but they were all linked to one person: President-elect Barack Obama.

Dave Ryan, the morning show host, introduced the story between riffs from T.I. and ballads from Beyonce with an anecdote about taking his son to the shooting range over the weekend. Normally they don't have to wait their turn to blow clay pigeons out of the air but this time the wait list was over 20 minutes. Ryan asked the owner what the deal was. The owner of the rifle range replied, "I don't know but we've been swamped ever since Obama got elected."

Ryan's theory was that all the Midwest conservatives were concerned about Obama tightening gun legislation and were therefore out buying weapons en masse. One of his co-hosts added that some of the fringe conservatives considered Obama the equivalent of the anti-Christ and have started preparations for Armageddon.

After a good giggle about the irrationality of "them," a listener texted in to say that although he/she was a rank-and-file liberal, he/she felt the need to dust off the gun and get some practicing in. All in preparation for... Obama's probable assassination and the ensuing anarchy. And it isn't just radio show hosts and reckless speculators who are thinking down this line -- a friend in the FBI told me that the scuttlebutt around the office is that they give President Obama an optimistic two years before he's assassinated. "The Secret Service is shitting themselves with worry."

Ryan then concluded by saying that gun purchases have seen a marked increase since Obama's election. This is correct, according to the New York Times. The Times cites concerns about increased gun control legislation but adds ominously, "

But markets, whether for guns or stocks and bonds, tend to move with their own internal dynamics even in -- perhaps especially in -- gloomy economic times.

Chris Casella, general manager of Federal Firearms Company in Oakdale, Pa., a suburb of Pittsburgh, said he had been fielding about 30 calls a day from people interested in buying assault-type rifles, especially semiautomatic weapons, often with magazines that could hold lots of ammunition.

"A lot of people are buying them as an investment," Mr. Casella said. "Better than gold."

Apparently people on both sides of partisan lines are worried about an impending Armageddon of some sort and are preparing for it. My worry is that this type of thinking will turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy. The question now is what will Barack Obama do about it?

Anarchy. Guns. Armageddon. Conspiracy theories. Typical fodder for conservative talk radio shows, I was surprised to hear these topics broached by the mostly inane but slightly left-leaning morni...
Anarchy. Guns. Armageddon. Conspiracy theories. Typical fodder for conservative talk radio shows, I was surprised to hear these topics broached by the mostly inane but slightly left-leaning morni...
 
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Politicians blowing up Iraqi kids creates more terrorists same way them wanting to ban guns creates more gun owners.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 11/26/2008

NRA up in arms over Obama's questioning of potential appointees on gun ownership and attempts to turn America into one big woodstock.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 11/21/2008
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"NRA up in arms over Obama's questioning of potential appointees on gun ownership"

As they should be. It is none of their darn business if a person owns firearms, why they own them, or how they are used. That they are asking indicates that they intend to make firearm laws an issue during the course of the administration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 11/22/2008

I'd be up in arms as well. Personally, I think that's akin to a future employer asking about ones religion or sexual orientation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:27 AM on 11/23/2008

You can look at this several ways.

1. The NRA can be up in arms all they want. If it's not an illegal question (and I"m guessing it isn"t)...they need to let it go.

2. If every applicant that is denied an appointment is found to have answered "yes" to "do you own guns?" ... so what? There is a massive "Human Resources" profession out there designed to help employers lie so they can dodge accountability on things like this. You know ... "it was all a coincidence .. they just didn't interview well." No documentation to prove otherwise? ¦... no problem.

3. Maybe the question isn't intended to screen out gun owning applicants but rather to look after Obama's self interest. If enough successful applicants are found to have concealed carry permits, Obama may want to get one of his own so that he feels safe during those highly argumentative cabinet meetings. A pure self-defense interest. You do understand that ... don't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 11/23/2008
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1. It is an invasion of privacy and if the hiring decision is based on the person's legal activities it can be considered illegal discrimination.

2. Do they really want the bad press which goes with that?

3. Nothing is asked about concealed carry permits and personal firearms / concealed carry is not allowed in federal buildings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 11/23/2008
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So why is does the article have the infamous fake, photoshopped Palin pic?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 11/20/2008
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"Ryan's theory was that all the Midwest conservatives were concerned about Obama tightening gun legislation and were therefore out buying weapons en masse."

It isn't just the Midwest conservatives. Such stereotyping is like saying all firearm owners are redneck hicks who drive beat up pick-ups, barely graduated High School, wear dirty tee shirts, kick their dogs, and beat their wives. The truth is that every state in the union is seeing a run on semi-auto firearms. And it isn't just conservatives who are buying.

The reason is primarily because Obama and the Democrats clearly and explicitly said that they want to bring back and make permanent the '94 Assault Weapon Ban.

The previous ban sent prices of "pre-ban" and "post-ban" semi-auto rifles sky rocketing. For example, a 1990 "pre-ban" AR-15 might cost $700. In 1998, that pre-ban rifle could sell for over $2000. And a "post ban" of similar configuration could cost $1300.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:28 PM on 11/18/2008

What will Obama do about it? Why should he do anything about it?

Believe me, this has happened before many times. Specifically, after the LA riots, Katrina and 9/11 to name just a couple. When people get scared some of them buy guns.

If and when our economy recovers and everything goes back to "normal" those guns will either sit unused in someone's closet or they'll get dumped on the market so real enthusiasts can buy them up cheap.

Nothing to fret over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 11/17/2008
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