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Who's Afraid of Cenk Uygur?

Posted: 07/21/11 01:40 PM ET

Well, as somebody who's never met a bridge he couldn't plant 600 pounds of explosives under, I'll say this for Cenk Uygur: The boy's got some industrial-sized balls on him.

Rather than even wait for a reported teleconference to explain his sudden departure from MSNBC, Uygur -- who always seems to be on a Red Bull IV drip anyway -- took to the comfortable environs of his Young Turks YouTube channel last night to basically fire a couple of impressive parting shots at his former employer. He claims that despite respectably sturdy ratings for the 6PM show during his six months or so at the reins, MSNBC president Phil Griffin made the decision to "go in a different direction" with it, basically relieving him of the show with the promise of a lower-profile on-air gig in a slot as yet to be determined. I've said before, numerous times in fact, that I don't think Uygur's a very polished broadcaster, so from that perspective I can understand why Griffin might want to relegate him to MS's basement for a little while. But of course, Uygur says that his technical skills as an on-air host weren't the primary reason the network decided to cut him loose at six.

He says it's all about his politics and his often combative defense of them.

According to Uygur, Griffin told him that "people in Washington" weren't happy with the tone of his show. Cenk of course takes that to mean that he was upsetting the merchants' carts in the temples of political power; Griffin says that by "people in Washington" he meant NBC producers who were having trouble booking guests because, presumably, nobody wanted to be shouted at for four minutes by a crazy guy who couldn't stop flailing his arms in their direction. Uygur goes on to say that at one point Griffin warned him that while he was content to rail against the establishment, MSNBC in fact is the establishment, and that that had to be kept in mind at all times. Whether this conversation really took place doesn't matter one bit because what Griffin supposedly said is a revelation about on par with finding out that the sky is blue. MSNBC, which is now part of the largest media conglomerate in the world, vertically integrated like no other, is the establishment -- well, no shit.

Whether Cenk's wounded pride was a factor in his decision to turn down MSNBC's consolation prize we'll never know for sure; obviously he's got a bit of an ego to think that he has the ability to scare the Beltway types to the point where they'd lock themselves inside their homes. But he's not lying when he says that whatever money he was being offered to stick around was almost certainly a hell of a lot more than he gets being an internet superstar. (I also couldn't help but nod knowingly at his mention of the various high-end "perks" that come with working for a corporate media behemoth; suddenly feeling like you're James Bond is nothing short of intoxicating.) So yeah, he definitely walked away from a nice paycheck and that alone could speak volumes about the purity of his motives. To hear Uygur address his online audience about the whole thing, you get the impression that at least on some level he really did feel like he had a responsibility to the people who put him in the position to be moved up to the big leagues in the first place, and he didn't want to sell them out or let them down.

Since making a conscious decision to lean to the left, MSNBC has been precariously walking a fine line between giving its progressive voices the freedom they need to be effective as hosts and understanding that that freedom will often have them saying and doing things that will make the network's corporate overlords want to drop a hundred-thousand-pound anvil on the whole place. Again, MS is the establishment -- which means that while guys like Phil Griffin want their anchors, reporters and contributors to work outside the box, they need to make sure they work inside a slightly larger box.

Uygur was a bit of a loose cannon on-air, but not so much that it should have cost him his job; Ed Schultz is infinitely more bellicose as a host and astonishingly he's still firmly in place in prime-time, despite a couple of recent, entirely predictable hiccups. The difference, I think, is one of inelegance. Even Schultz's occasionally obnoxious outrage has been carefully honed to the point where it's not quite the blunt instrument wielded by Uygur. While I'm not a big fan of Schultz's, he's a better broadcaster than Uygur. The same goes for the dearly departed Keith Olbermann, who was kept on for as long as he was only because of his undeniably immense talents as a television host. Olbermann pissed a lot of people off, from his peers to his managers to the overlords in the adminisphere; MSNBC's decision to finally cut him loose wasn't a case of Olbermann saying things management didn't want him to say as much as him infuriating everyone in his path. Griffin just decided he wasn't worth the hassle because his ratings were great but not that great.

And that's really what it comes down to. Cenk's numbers were decent, but they weren't through the roof, in MSNBC's mind not good enough to warrant giving him time to develop in a hugely important spot in its line-up. That plus his deficiencies as a network broadcaster -- and that includes his tendency to appear as if he's always one step away from challenging his political adversaries to a roshambo in the parking lot -- probably sealed his fate at six. What does all of this mean for his apparent replacement, Al Sharpton, a guy whose jarring on-air pauses and inability to complete a coherent thought make Uygur look like Murrow? Name recognition and novelty factor aside, he'd better hope his ratings are damn good -- and that they stay that way.

Still, in the end did Cenk apparently stand up for what he believes in -- and what his online audience expects of him -- in the aftermath of his demotion? Sure looks that way.

And for that he gets to walk out with his head held very high.

 

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03:38 PM on 08/04/2011
Yet another bad move, MSNBC. I made sure to see Cenk every night and he was great. I agree with the writer: He left holding his head high and carried his integrity with him. I am sure Cenk will have a new venue very soon and I will be there.
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Tootsie56
help fellow travelers along the way, it comes back
12:31 AM on 08/02/2011
So once again MSNBC drives off someone else to Current! Guess I'll be checking out Current even more! Yo Cenk!
02:49 PM on 07/27/2011
Definitely missing Cenk. His just sarcasm was funny and lively, and he was steadily improving his "broadcast skills." Rev. Al not improving at all, his mis-reading of names is especially annoying. Although it was kind of funny when he called Feehery "Fairy" yesterday.
09:12 PM on 08/01/2011
I like Sharpton's show. It's much better lately, but you're totally right, I noticed he can't pronounce a name to save his life. We should make it into a drinking game.
Konnie
PO'd PROGRESSIVE
09:31 AM on 07/27/2011
cenk is a threat to the media and to washington. he challeneges that status guo. he is a well spoken, extremely smart, honest, true-believing, pasionate, angry progressive with a FOLLOWING.

for 80 years the right has tried to destroy FDR's safety net and to denegrate the word liberal, they have spent decades beating on, bullying and equating the word progressive with evil incarnate.

finally there is a platform and voices - Ed, Keith,Rachell,Lawrence, Current, Moveon, TPM, and HP - to speak with and for us. for thr first time in years i have a glimmer of hope that the pendulum is slowly turning.

LARGE MONEY in their bald-faced impatience to finally grab it all have finally awakened the citizens
and scared the bejeezus out of them. they may not know how to fix it or even what is in their own best interests, but they are paying attention. historically, that attention has lead to progressive ideals.
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sonnysaggese
10:39 PM on 07/25/2011
Odd that they would replace him with Al Sharpton, a favorite whipping boy for the right, and not that popular on the left, ie his pathetic primary run. Al Sharpton is old news, and mostly known for fighting Racism. It's not a good play for MSNBC. I have no idea what MSNBC's strategy is. I enjoy Ed Schultz but the others lack the type of passion for Old School Populism/labor issues. I know the sponsors don't like the progressive message, anti corporation etc, but the younger demographics do, as evidences by Cenks strong numbers with younger audiences.
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edejan
12:24 AM on 07/26/2011
Thank you. Fanned and faved.
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mkdewboohoohoo
06:21 PM on 07/25/2011
I miss his show every weekday afternoon. There was nothing wrong with his delivery or style or anything else for that matter. He spoke truth to power and because of that he was taken off the air. This is a sad day for MSNBC and for the rest of the progressive community.
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edejan
12:24 AM on 07/26/2011
Yes, it is. And Progressives have had a lot of sad days lately.
12:39 PM on 07/25/2011
The only guy worth watching on MSNBC is Dylan Ratigan. If you want something new. The others are totally predictable. Sharpton is a joke that the media plays on us from time to time so we can see it's "diversity". What comes out of their mouths on economic policy though, is pretty much the same.

Raise the age of medicare and cut taxes from 33% to 29% on the wealthy. No debate, sacrifices have to be made. Too bad it's the lower classes that seem to be constantly taking the hit.
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mkdewboohoohoo
06:24 PM on 07/25/2011
My impression is that Mr. Ratigan was a sort of mentor for Mr. Uygur. The Ratigan show is where I first heard of Uygur.
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sheikwil4
10:25 PM on 07/31/2011
well to each his own because I liked Cenk a whole lot better than Dylan R and I wouldn't spit on chuck Todd if he was on fire.
07:26 AM on 07/25/2011
Cenk was the most principled and plain-spoken pundit on corporate television -- which is precisely why he didn't last very long on corporate television, which is run by tap-dancing triangulators who constantly have a finger in the wind to avoid saying anything that everyone else isn't saying.

I suspect that it wasn't anything specific that Uygur said that got him fired, it's just that his bosses and certain powerful politicians in Washington couldn't stand to see anyone speaking that plainly and honestly. It went against everything they had learned to do to survive politically. And it also meant that Cenk was dangerous: He was determined to inform people rather than just yakking to fill air time, which is the real job of most pundits. Americans need to realize that the corporate media exist to serve the monied establishment. These media exist to shape public opinion to ensure that the establishment continues to enjoy its tax breaks, excessive salaries and other perqs without serious interference from the unwashed masses. Someday we, the people, will take back the media and insist that they serve the public once again, but until then pundits as principled as Cenk Uygur will find it very difficult to tell the truth to large numbers of people.
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inmyhumbleopinion
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01:44 PM on 07/24/2011
Essentially what you're arguing is that he was fired for form over content. And for that, I think the media establishment has to take a hard look at themselves for what makes for not just "good" television, but important television.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, until news divisions go back to the idea that they are providers of information to the public and not profit-generators, the public will lose important voices and important stories to stay truly informed.

What? GE and NBC don't have enough money-making enterprises in their entertainment and sports divisions to keep MSNBC funded without a critical reliance on ratings? I find that hard to believe.
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dclintn648
Better a pro than a con
03:57 AM on 07/24/2011
Why on earth should Cenk have to cover for MSNBC firing him? They fired him, and he told his audience why. It's that simple. And incredibly, refreshingly, inspiringly HONEST. Someone stood up for his principles and told the public the TRUTH! And then gets mocked for it by the butt-kissing establishment sellouts who are ashamed that they didn't have the honor to do the same...
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alan2a
Actual Progressive
12:05 PM on 07/24/2011
But notice that the rest of the supposed "progressives" value their paychecks and being stars more than they value their supposed principles. Because the reality is that if they really had those principles they would have walked also. And boy, wouldn't that have started a real loud uproar about corporate press.
12:47 PM on 07/25/2011
Cenk is the rarity. A man true to his ethics.

Most of us (including myself) would have sold out, at least at some level, for all that dough.

If you treat mainstream news sort of as a scripted commercial you'll be better off. Then again, what the point in watching.
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edejan
12:29 AM on 07/26/2011
That would have been awesome...but they didn't, so what does that say? I'm going to TYT to keep up with Cenk and Current to keep up with KO. Faved and fanned, fellow progressive.
12:00 AM on 07/24/2011
Before he was hired to do the MSNBC show, he told his youtube audience that he wouldn't sell out, and if he had to make a choice between doing one or the other show, he would choose The Young Turks. It wasn't a bruised ego--the man has integrity; maybe people don't recognize that anymore. He really shines on The Young Turks format though, where he can say what he wants. He is extremely smart and has an amazing memory for political history. And I think he is an outstanding interviewer.
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shriekingviolet
Blue Girl From A Red State
11:50 PM on 07/23/2011
I've always had mixed feelings about Cenk Uygur, On one hand, he puts together good content which is ultimately why I've tuned in to his online show for years (though I miss the days when Ben was his co-host rather than just filling in from time to time. Cenk tends to be better when he has a good comedic foil) as that's the most important part, but on the other his enormous ego and he-man persona frequently have me reaching for the mute button. I think it's sad that he didn't make it on MSNBC, but I have no problem picturing a scenario where his personality pissed off enough people to the point where his bosses decided he wasn't worth the trouble of managing a la Olbermann. Cenk Uygur is an acquired taste, even among those who probably share most of his views.
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dclintn648
Better a pro than a con
04:01 AM on 07/24/2011
You must be missing his humor... he's quite self-effacing and honest about himself. And he's very funny, but more importantly, he's HONEST. Cenk is one of the few people I trust to tell the truth about both sides of the political argument.
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shriekingviolet
Blue Girl From A Red State
02:28 AM on 07/25/2011
I'm sure some of it's schtick, but not all of it is humor. You can tell in the way he manages himself. It can be off-putting, though obviously there are a lot of people out there who like it just like there are people who don't. I don't question his honesty, as I said before I appreciate the content he puts together and that's why I do think it's a shame that he's no longer on MSNBC. I think he probably could have done well given more time to mature into the position as he'd already come a long way since January.
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CarlIII
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05:39 PM on 07/23/2011
I think Cenk may have made a bad career move. But I admire his idealism. Hope he lands a new tv gig soon. I like him but he needs some refining and maturity.
12:03 AM on 07/24/2011
I think his raw style is loved by his younger YouTube audience, although not all fans of The Young Turks are young. It's amazing that anyone can reach people of that age and interest them in politics, so I think he should just continue to be himself on The Young Turks. He has a HUGE audience there.
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dclintn648
Better a pro than a con
04:12 AM on 07/24/2011
His internet news program is the #1 online news show in the world, so he's not so beholden to the networks for his bread and butter, although it would be more and better butter!

But it's his lack of "refinement" that makes him likeable and believable. I'm sick of slick hosts who ignore the absurdity of the fake "neutrality" the media seems bent on assuming, presenting both the truth and the lies as two equally valid arguments.

And he IS young, but that's not necessarily a drawback, since his audience is clearly going to be the near future prime demographic.
airmikee99
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03:02 PM on 07/24/2011
I'll bet he ends up on Current TV.
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09:28 PM on 07/22/2011
"respectably sturdy ratings" What were they? 18-34 demo, was he beating Fox? Less than 500K of that demo are watching. Overall far less than a mill are watching, only RM can get a mill. Everyone is over-rating their impact.
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HeevenSteven
20 Minutes into the future.
09:23 PM on 07/22/2011
This from a guy with 20 years inside establishment news. Hmmm...