Will Obama And Clinton Meet Wed in NYC?
Earlier today, reports surfaced that Hillary Clinton was calling her staff back to New York City. In a booze-related incident, Clinton campaign chair Terry McAuliffe confirmed on MSNBC's Morning Joe that Clinton would be holding a "victory celebration" in New York on Tuesday night, the last primary election night of 2008.
Speaking to MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell early this afternoon, Barack Obama's senior foreign policy advisor Greg Craig confirmed that Obama would also be in New York, on Wednesday, June 4, at a DNC event, in an "effort... to reach out and embrace all the elements of the party."
Under Mitchell's direct follow-up, Craig was coy as to whether the two candidates would actually meet. But the signs are clear that the Clinton campaign is beginning to fold up its tents, as key supporters unequivocally state, and even her husband seems to acknowledge, that the race is over and Obama is the nominee.
Whether or not Clinton's Tuesday night event will be a celebration of "victory" as McAuliffe claims, or a celebratory elegy of her historic candidacy, it appears as though Obama will claim victory that night.
If that is accompanied by a Clinton concession, a Wednesday conclave in New York could signal the beginning of the political marriage of their campaigns' supporters, if not of the candidates themselves.
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Take Bill and Geraldine away from Hillary and take Rev. Wright and Father Pfleger away from Obama and what do you have? Two formidable and persuasive politicians who together could put up one hell of a fight against the Republicans. I think Hillary would actually be a better partner with Obama than she has been with Bill because she has come into her own as a Senator from New York and she and Obama carry no baggage from a stormy marriage history together. Underneath his cool demeanor, Obama has proved himself to be tough as nails, never folding or dissembling during the campaign even when the Rev. Wright fiasco broke and the right wing attack machineand the HRC campaign were throwing vicious attacks in his direction. This would be a good thing for Hillary because she would be working with someone steady and strong to match her strong combative personality. This partnership of a one two punch with contrasting styles but a similar vision could actually work quite well. Who knows, as they grow to have more confidence in each other they might give us one of the best administrations in the last 50 years. I know there are strong drawbacks to such a ticket one can dream.
If she and bill could go 24 hrs without saying something hateful about Barack we could
think about trying to put humphty dumpty back together again
NO, let her concede, endorse and she and bill go away. The MSM is gearing up for payback for all the threats, suspensions, and lost jobs suffered by reporters and radio personalities caused by bill and hill. Obama does not need to be bothered with defending the clinton crap while they are campaigning for him. Just let them GO.
We can heal the Democratic party after Hillary goes away, and not before.
Bill was a good president, despite his all too human human flaws. They should have been satisfied with his legacy and the life they get to live because he was once president. Her greed has ruined them both.
I think it's still about Monica, and what she thinks he owes her. It's also about the promises she made to her very large donors who are not going to get their payback now.
I wouldn't want to be either of them now. So sad.
Both are already Wed.
Kudos! I deliberately mispunctuated the headline, but I didn't think anyone would get it!
Chip
Hillary's campaign is not going to end tomorrow, I know it. She will probably 'suspend' her campaign, but that is a far cry from ending it entirely. She has too much campaign debt to leave the spotlight and go home gracefully. Besides, they're taking it to Denver, right? Also, we all know what happens to some presidential candidates in June.......
Larry King just gave a shout out to Huff Po…
The Clintons are using rhetoric like rigged and stolen to describe Senator Clinton’s failed presidential campaign. Her supporters promise to meet Obama in Denver.
I just don’t see this wedding that you write about.
Chip .... watch your mouth!
Let us be gracious in our victory. Hillary Clinton's campaign was hardfought. Did she cross the line from vigorous campaiging into something not so noble several times in ways that offended many of us? Hell yes! That can happen when you are fighting hard for something that you want and believe that you are the best qualified for. Hell it happened often on this site with both Hillary and Obama supporters taking jabs that were completely out of bounds and we weren't even the candidates just supporters. Now let's give her a minute to take her bows for being the first woman to mount a competitive candidacy. As a woman, I know that is huge. I also believe that Hillary has opened a door and soon another woman will walk through it into the presidency. In a contest like this one, it is important not to trample her on the way out the door. It is smart and also right to give her her props in a way that does not back off of the truth that it is over but still allows her to maintain some dignity.
Those who want to strip Clinton of dignity at this point need to understand that they are only making it harder for us to win in November. Also they are demonstrating one of the qualities that we need to get our of politics, which is dehumanizing our opponents.
***Those who want to strip Clinton of dignity at this point need to understand that they are only making it harder for us to win in November.***
I don't agree with some of your post---Hillary stripped herself of dignity.
As for being gracious, I suggest you email Bill Clinton and ask him to stop verbally crucifying Obama on the eve of the last two primaries. Ask him to be gracious.
Just if you want tbe fair to all.
Too late the MSM is going to bust them up for all the trouble they caused for people in that industry, suspension, terminations, threats, and stifling of reporting. Payback is going to be a big bitch.
I feel your blame is misplaced.
I don't think anyone wants to strip Clinton of dignity.
I want her to stop behaving in an undignified, destructive, dishonorable, dishonest, divisive and selfish manner.
Everyone has been "giving her a moment to take her bows" for months now!
Every time I think I've worked up the good will to forgive her for a lie or a smear, she does it again!
the people on this site are so disrespectful and rude to the only two term democrat in your lifetime. Bill and Hillary are the democratic party. I can't wait until you Obama supporters are burning down your own houses and cars and rioting in the streets when Obama is NOT president. Hillary is still going to be president one day whether you like it or not. You are all going to look like fools.
Answer to the above headline question - no.
Well I just heard him on CNN saying at a rally that Hillary "is an outstanding public servant" and that they "will be working together in November."
Too nice--but admirable all the same.
What makes you so sure they won't meet?
Meanwhile, Bill Clinton was blaming Obama for the Vanity Fair article, Fr. Pfleger's comments and claiming that Hillary was robbed of the nomination plus he is responsible for every other bad thing that has ever been said about Hillary. Where is the love?
I don't want her to work for Obama, with Obama, or anywhere in the public eye. She is a destructive force and she hurts the country.
At this point she is just standing in the way of our noble and just fight against McBush.
I Hope NOT it would be a MARRIAGE MADE IN HELL!!!
Carol
ditto that!
Both are already wed and each to perfectly kindred spirit.
I've never seen so much wishful thinking in my life.
Anyone who thinks Hillary Clinton is simply going to "do the right thing" and heal the party has been asleep for years.
She could give a crap about the party.
She has spent her whole life running for this thing.
She has endured the very public humiliation of a serial cheating husband.
She's willing to play the race card. She's willing to use lawyers to sue the party.
She ain't going anywhere!
So don't get excited about tomorrow night.
Get ready to hear more of her tortured logic as to why she should be the Dem candidate.
She'll point out that that Gaffe-Master Flash has no chance in the general, due to his twenty year relationship with a racist Church.
Will we listen?
Heck no!
BHO '08!!
Thank you. Could not have said it better.
Some background on what to expect:
White House Civil War
"Promised real power as Bill Clinton's vice president, Al Gore found he had a rival for that role: the First Lady. And when Hillary decided to run for the Senate, a tense competition got ugly. In an excerpt from her new book about the Clinton White House years, the author reveals how conflicting agendas—the triangle of a scandal-ridden lame-duck president, the wife he'd betrayed, and his designated successor—sapped Gore's 2000 campaign as the bond between two couples dissolved into distrust, anger, and resentment."
White House Civil War: Politics & Power: vanityfair.com
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/11/clinton200711
You are correct. She may 'suspend' her campaign tomorrow or Wednesday, but she will not end it. She's going down in flames and she's going to take us all with her if we allow it.
Oh, "reelcobra", that was just funny. Stop it, please.
I think this is Clinton's last chance to exit (semi) gracefully. She has a decision to make: either stay in and doom the party (and thereby the country) to President John Sidney McCain III, and in the process destroy her political career forever, or finally make good on her promise to stand behind the democratic nominee. My guess is that's what Pelosi, Reid, Dean et al. have been explaining to her in the last few days. I wish I could take the events in your post with a cautious optimism, but she's blown every other chance she's had to smooth this over and the math has remained relatively unchanged since Super Tuesday. Unfortunately she's been under the sway of both shoddy management (Penn etc.) and adoring fans.
It's a weird analogy but: Rock stars should always *play* what their fans want to here, but should never *write* what they say they want to hear. I.e. give 'em what they want , but don't let them influence what *you* want.
Two cents please. ;-)
If you see someone holding up a Bic lighter, please slap it out of their hand, OK?
LOL -no worries only cell phone screens allowed here.
As a New Yorker, I hope Obama is not coming here to sell us on Hillary, the MSM is all ready saying that if Obama give into the Clintons demands than how do we know he won't give into America's enemys demands.
The media help sell us on the war claming Iraq had weapons of mass destructions, in which was a lie. Now they are trying to sell the voter of the Clintons, and they are really weapons of mass destructions. What an example to set before all the young people following this primary. You can lie, cheat, and change the rules, don't apy your bills, never admit your mistakes, use the race card, deceive, and still get rewarder for it.
Watch how Fox news bring out all the Clinton dirt now. . As an Independent voter we will not vote for any Clinton. . The GOP could not dig enough dirt on Obama, so they ask their voters to voter for Hillary, than they bring out all the Clintons dirt.. Let them vote for McSame, he is like a fish out of water, flip flop, McSame is against killing a baby before they are born, so they can grow old enough to go to war and be killed or kill others They are for war, but we are for peace. McSame and Hillary both need a nap.
I will sue the DNC for all my donations back.
As an Obama supporter I have to say, reading posts like yours are disheartening to me. We need to spend less time attacking one another and focus in on how to beat Sen. McCain in the fall.
I understand your passion and that of the Clinton supporters, but by us continuing to attack each other and our candidates of choice, we are making ourselves look no better than the people we claim to be railing against.
Listen. I don't agree with everything Sen. Clinton or Sen Obama has said and done, but I made a choice as to who I thought would be the best candidate. Now that is seems Sen. Obama will be our nominee, it is important that we support BOTH candidates who ran. They are both important to the process of the Dems taking back the White House.
The cold hard reality is that we need now to focus in on November and making sure a Dem takes the seat behind the desk in the oval office. That, above all else, is why I will never vote for Sen. McCain.
you know , it is a little hard to be gracious right now....I go into the bolg on the National Democratic Party site..........OMG.....the trash being slung in there by Hillary supporters. Some are even spouting that The Clinton Camp has a tape of Michelle and are going to "introduce" it to the DNC and public wednesday.............it is garbage..but, as Hillary goes so do her supporters...just plant the seed..it will grow....................
I am a first time voter..Older white female.................I support Obama, I also believe there should be no deal between Obama and Clinton till The Clinton(s) heal the wounds of the party they and they alone created.
Sorry I am just very very frustrated right now.......
We should have had our nominee a while ago( after NC and IN)...John McCain has had wayyyyyyy tooo much free time.
You sound so civilised..........
I think you forget to realize how many independents are supporting Obama. This isn't about unifying the Democratic party. In fact, they couldn't care less about the Dem party. It's about many of those who have been life-long, disenfranchised voters wanting to see change in Washington. That's what Obama sold them so far. If he's going to change his message now by choosing Hillary as his VP, then why should any of us believe him when he is president?
If he picks her as VP then I will know just what he is all about. There is no way you can take the high road when your VP is taking the low sleazy road.
Never gonna happen. Barack Obama is smarter than that.
kissy-kissy make-nice time.
By working as hard for Obama, as they have for themselves this campaign, the Clintons would definately gain a much better opinion of them than I hold now. If they can prove vigorously that they are able to put party above themselves, I'd seriously reconsider my negative opinion of both of them.
I would imagine there is a very well-orchestrated symphony on tap.
Let us HOPE everyone in on the same page
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