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Answer the Question

Posted: 07/06/10 03:28 PM ET

As the nation celebrated its 234th birthday this past weekend, the picture of the lives of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans has rarely been so front and center in the larger public consciousness.

Same-sex couples in the nation's capital can get married, though the federal government -- because of the Defense of Marriage Act -- does not recognize those marriages. The House of Representatives voted in June to give President Obama and his military leadership the authority to end "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," though the Senate has not yet acted on the change - and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has threatened to filibuster the defense authorization bill to which the repeal amendment is attached.

And, in the Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Solicitor General Elena Kagan this past week, the place of same-sex couples in marriage and the role of gay people in the military were daily discussion points.

Despite the movement toward equality on both fronts, though, equality is not yet a reality on either front.

Unfortunately, one of the most prominent people who fails to recognize the full promise of America for LGBT Americans is President Barack Obama. At a briefing with representatives from LGBT media outlets on July 1, Obama's senior domestic policy adviser, Melody Barnes, was in the unenviable position of explaining that failure in the most palatable way.

Barnes, who has suggested in the past a difference of opinion with the president on marriage equality, told those in attendance on Thursday that repeal of DOMA and extension of same-sex partner benefits where possible in the meantime was the "course" Obama has "identified" and "supported."

After several follow-up questions, the conversation ended at a point that was very similar to a question that came up in Kagan's hearings: Whether the 1996 law defining marriage as an opposite-sex-only institution at the federal level and protecting states from forced recognition of other states' same-sex marriages is unconstitutional?

Kagan did not answer the question posed to her about marriage rights, but Obama should.

The distinction between Kagan's status as potential justice and Obama's role as president is the key to the distinction between the level of forthrightness we should expect from each in their answers.

Kagan could be hearing cases at the Supreme Court about DOMA and other marriage issues and, accordingly, took the judge's equivalent of the Fifth Amendment at her hearings, saying at one point that "[t]here is, of course, a case coming down the road," and adding that she did not want to "prejudge any case that might come before me."

The President of the United States, however, is in no such position and has no such reason to take the Fifth. Although the Justice Department may be obligated to defend validly enacted laws, its decision regarding whether there is any legitimate ground for defending the constitutionality of a law like DOMA has no bearing on whether the president personally believes the law is constitutional or not.

This question, our constitutional scholar president knows, is different even from his view of whether he personally supports marriage equality. It is a question of his views of our nation's constitutional protections. Obama owes the LGBT community -- and the nation -- an answer about whether he believes DOMA unconstitutionally restricts the equal rights of same-sex couples.

Even if Obama wishes to avoid answering such a question, though, U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker -- in one of the cases to which Kagan was referring -- is likely to force his hand in the near future. Walker has completed a trial challenging the constitutionality of Proposition 8 in California, which amended California's constitution to limit marriages to opposite-sex couples. The lawsuit was brought on federal equal protection and due process grounds and any decision is almost certain to be appealed to the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals.

At that point, Obama will need to decide whether he wants the federal government -- which has thus far been silent in the case -- to take a position on the California law. DOMA is not being challenged in the case, so Obama needn't even take a position on the constitutionality of the federal law in order to oppose California's amendment to prohibit same-sex couples from marrying. And silence, though tempting, is not an acceptable answer from a president who promised to be a "fierce advocate" for LGBT equality.

The nation engaged in a celebration on Sunday -- a celebration of the power of words that lead to change.

This week is as good a time as any for the administration and the president to stop taking the Fifth, and put words to his -- and this nation's -- promise of equality.

 
 
 
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IzzyIdol
01:57 AM on 07/10/2010
Obama has done more for the gay community than any other President has done. Time to show the man some gratitude. Extending full benefits to partners of gay federal workers is a big fricking deal. Give the man some support for his second term, and he can do more.
12:21 PM on 07/07/2010
During the campaign, he said flat-out that the concept made him uncomfortable, and that he did not support same-sex marriage. Campaigning with the likes of Donnie McClurkin underscored that.

Definitely not a gay-friendly administration, even if they try to give themselves protective cover here and there.
09:37 AM on 07/07/2010
Pres. Obama will not support gay marriage. That would be political suicide. Think about this, everytime gay marriage was put on the ballot, it was defeated. Which means, the majority of the voters are against it.
If Obama came out and supported it, do you really think he will be re-elected in 2012?
10:32 AM on 07/07/2010
I thought the "change" we were promised was to do what is right, rather than what is politically expedient?
10:58 AM on 07/07/2010
I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but are you serious? He's a career politican, he doesn't care about what is right, only what is right for him to get re-elected.
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FearlessFreep
I'm actually a radical leftist
02:37 PM on 07/07/2010
Yes.
08:52 AM on 07/07/2010
Meanwhile the catcalls from the privileged will tell the LGBT community that we just want a pony and Obama doesn't have a magic wand. These things are true. However, this is also the President who campaigned on being a multi-tasker. Apparently with all the staff at the White House, there just isn't anyone, especially at the DOJ which has produced flat-out dehumanizing anti-gay rhetoric, who can pick up the ball for the LGBT community.
07:30 AM on 07/07/2010
Every single definable group wants something, and of course their issue is the most important.
08:48 AM on 07/07/2010
That's "issues", plural. I'll grant that African Americans are second-class citizens. However, the LGBT community are third-class.

There's a huge history of people seeking to garner favor with the politically powerful minority by proving they can hate weaker minorities more. All you have to do is check out the Mormon Game Plan to gain acceptance in the broader Christian community by spearheading the hate for gays.
08:49 AM on 07/07/2010
You know what? I am just sick of being the group who is told our issue is always the LEAST important.

Every gay person my age knows someone who died, and the horrible family (who the person had likely fled from years ago) swooped in, and because the partner of 20 years was not considered "kin", claimed the body, kicked the partner out of their home, and stole all their child's possessions.

I don't say this is the most important issue right now, but for God's sake it's been years waiting for the stroke of a freaking pen... or at least an eloquent, quotable Obama speech that could speed the change of hearts and minds.
09:53 AM on 07/07/2010
If they had a will and gave someone the power of attorney, they wouldn't have this problem.
The same issue is true with straight single people who do not have a will.
whitebeach
Hey, buddy, can you spare a micro-bio?
12:44 AM on 07/07/2010
I really believe that the only hope, and it is a small one, for any near-future nationwide remedy lies with the courts. The problem with DOMA, I mean beyond its sickeningly discriminatory nature, is its name. How many in Congress, not only now but probably for a decade to come, will be willing to vote to repeal something called the "Defense of Marriage Act"? I do wish and hope that at some point the president will lend his voice to the cause, but I think that in the absence of some sweeping opinion by a court, and a surprising assent by the Supreme Court, equality is going to have to be fought for state by state until a critical mass is reached.
12:34 AM on 07/07/2010
Listen up Obama and company. 10% of Americans are either gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgered. These Americans deserve that all of their human rights be protected

Diversity should be treated with dignity and respect.

They pay taxes
They vote
They shop at businesses
They are in all professions
and religions
They may be your next door neighbor
or be part of your family.

Excluding a group of people for any reasons is unfair.

They will remember at voting time who protected their human rights.

Does discrimination ring a bell, eh?

This is 2010 not 1910 for pete's sake.

I saw the movie "Milk" and it told the true story of a gay man fighting for his rights in San Fran. To understand the gay movement see this movie. Sean Penn delivers an award winning performance.
08:52 AM on 07/07/2010
Marked as favorite.

This is the reason it drives me nuts when some bigot says "What's to prevent someone from marrying their dog?" My response is, "Well, if the dog could hold citizenship, vote, and pay taxes, you shouldn't prevent it. But dogs are NOT tax paying citizens due all the rights of citizenship -- consenting, adult, gay people ARE."
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Marcus047
inter arma enim silent leges
11:44 AM on 07/07/2010
and 95% of that 10% vote demorat and donate money to democrats. Now imagine is all that money and all those votes just up an disappeared. Don't donate to them (or anyone else for that matter) and don't vote. They'll pay more attention to the gay community when the election after next comes, when they've realised that losing the support of the LGBT community cost them more than they thought. That they can't just keep saying all the right things (or in some cases nothing at all) and do nothing, and keep the support of our community.
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LouGots
07:20 AM on 07/08/2010
That "95% vote Democrat" is fatal. That's how people get taken for granted. One of the reason the NRA has such overweening power is that they endorse Demorats as well as Republicans.
08:40 PM on 07/06/2010
Here is an idea ..... try to find ways to push hard for LGBT issues without trashing Obama in the process unless you feel that these issues will obtain a more friendly ear with a Republican Congress and one in the White House. Unfortunately that is exactly what we will get if we don't get constructive fast. NOTE: never in my rememberence has the LGBT community seen a positive step during a Republican administration.
02:03 AM on 07/07/2010
On the flip side, if the rest of you all don't want a Republican president than maybe you can send Oby a letter or a fax on our behalf to come out and take a stand for equality. After all, Equality for all is a core principal of the Democratic Party.
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Marcus047
inter arma enim silent leges
11:46 AM on 07/07/2010
"NOTE: never in my rememberence has the LGBT community seen a positive step during a Republican administration."

But then, there's been no positive steps during Democrat administrations either. Unless you call DOMA, Don't Ask, and numerous state amendements to constitutions banning same-sex marriage positive?
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Jdaddy1951
07:52 PM on 07/06/2010
I agree that President Obama is backing into a corner on this issue, but I don't think he's quite there yet. Perhaps he is waiting to see how the judge rules in the Prop 8 case before making a statement? I'm not saying that's right or wrong, but just offering a possible reason. Personally, I can't see any reason not to support Prop 8 being overturned. It seems un-American to allow a majority of voters to deny the equal rights of one group of Americans just because the majority doesn't like them. I thought that kind of thinking went out with Brown vs. The Board of Education and the Loving miscegenation decisions.
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mrfreeze
A Disciple of Nietzsche
07:22 PM on 07/06/2010
If some of you commentators were in the room with me now and said the things you're saying about the President, I'd ask you kindly to explain why you believe he is able to change (literally generations) of anti-gay attitudes with the snap of his fingers. Hey, I'm ALL about equal rights, have never had a problem with people and their gender preferences. BUT, just exactly where do you think LGBTQ, DADT and other issues would be today if McCain or someone like Mit Romney were president. You'd all be silenced and condemned, persecuted and truly forgotten.

IMO President Obama is not forsaking you but if you choose to believe he is, that's your prerogative.
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FearlessFreep
I'm actually a radical leftist
08:45 PM on 07/06/2010
This isn't about Obama ending the problem all at once, it's about his doing far less than he clearly can.
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mrfreeze
A Disciple of Nietzsche
11:20 PM on 07/06/2010
"Clearly can" has become an extremely difficult concept in the world of American politics. The President "clearly can" do all sorts of things that every group in the U.S. would like but the reality is, there is only so much political/social capital out there. I believe things have come a LONG way and will continue to move forward..........................unless the American people choose to put Republicans back in charge in the next couple of elections. Then, it will be time to move to Denmark......
08:57 AM on 07/07/2010
So silence and condemnation from Democrats is better than silence and condemnation from Republicans. Thanks for that tidbit.

I'll hold the President to his statement that the office requires multi-tasking.

Meanwhile, thank you for pointing out that the Democratic Coalition is shattered. I'll be actively working against anyone of any party who will not support equality for LGBT Americans. Unfortunately, I don't think I'll have any energy left to work against those who want more racial, class, gender, ethnic and religious discrimination.
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mrfreeze
A Disciple of Nietzsche
12:18 PM on 07/07/2010
I never suggested, nor do I consider silence and condemnation (regarding this issue) from anyone. That's something you added to this conversation. (Why so defensive????? I'm on your side!)

Ultimately, I believe LGBT Americans will see better days; however, I believe our country may fail economically before this happens. As a result, it will be a while before real reforms happen.
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dsws
No owning ideas. Limit only commercial use.
07:12 PM on 07/06/2010
I don't think you can get there by the full faith and credit clause. "Congress may by general laws prescribe ... the effect thereof," and Congress has said the effect is diddly-squat.
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Cal3b G
07:10 PM on 07/06/2010
Psst.. I hate to break this to you but it isn't news that he doesn't care about DOMA. It's mind-boggling that President Obama of all people would not support extending marriage rights to gay couples as well, but I remember very clearly having the exact same opinion on him with the issue BEFORE he was elected.
12:32 AM on 07/07/2010
You're right. Obama played on homophobic sentiments in the So. Carolina Dem. Primary, and has long tried to stand on both sides of the fence. Once in office, his Justice Dept. has been as homophobic as many of us (presumably like you, too) understood him to be - right from the get go!
02:07 AM on 07/07/2010
Yes, and he betrayed his own beliefs. In 1996, he was unequivocally in support of Gay Marriage. He is a politician, nothing more.
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JShankel
I want my country forward
05:36 PM on 07/06/2010
Not to speak for Mr. Obama, but from the campaign I think the answer is that he'll sign a DOMA repeal if congress gets it to him, but he personally favors "strong" (whatever that means) civil unions to gay marriage and doesn't particularly care to lead on a DOMA repeal.

He did say those things out loud and in English.

Just because he's not as batsh*t crazy as John McSane and Bible Spice doesn't mean we're going to get everything we want.
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inter arma enim silent leges
11:51 AM on 07/07/2010
He doesn't really care to lead on anything, for any community. And that's the biggest problem with Obama. People thought they were electing a leader for change, turns out they were electing a speaker for change with absolutely no ability to lead. I'm starting to think he couldn't lead a tourist through a tour of the oval office.
07:45 PM on 07/08/2010
Fanned!
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Kevin Atlanta
Active Citizen 54
04:53 PM on 07/06/2010
President Obama has failed me as a progressive in his "Fierce Advocate" role in health care reform, banking reform and the LGBTQ Community struggles for Equality.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/Articles/000,015.htm
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
05:25 PM on 07/06/2010
He never claimed to be a Progressive, just more so than Bush or McCain, which he is.
Dukakis, Gore and Kerry were Progressives - they lost.
Clinton and Obama are Centrists - they won.

Take what you can get in life.
07:01 PM on 07/06/2010
"Take what you can get in life."

Please tell me you're kidding.
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FearlessFreep
I'm actually a radical leftist
08:47 PM on 07/06/2010
Clinton and Obama would have won even if they'd been genuine progressives. (And were Dukakis, Gore and Kerry really less "centrist" than Obama?)
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DevonTexas
Eternal Optimism
03:35 PM on 07/06/2010
"The lawsuit was brought on federal equal protection and due process grounds and any decision is almost certain to be appealed to the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals. "

It will finally be decided if GLBT people have equal access under the law. In the Robert's court, the decision is questionable and that is frightening. As citizens they can't be denied this right but as gay people, they could be.