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Chris Kelly

Chris Kelly

Posted: May 30, 2008 01:02 PM

Barack Obama's Vice President Will Be...


Just the other day (okay, a month and a half ago) I was having an off-the-record conversation with an extremely influential leader of the netroots community. How influential? Let me put it this way: Without him, there would be no Ned Lamont.

Given that triumph, we naturally wanted to know whom he thought Barack Obama should choose as vice president. I thought Bill Bradley would be a pretty good choice, and still do. Other people at our table believed that Obama needed to reach out to some Democratic elder statesmen or military man, both of which made sense to me. But my netroots friend looked at us like we were crazy. Obviously, there was only one man for the job. One electrifying figure who would capture the imagination of a generation of new voters, kick over the electoral map like a board game at an anger management retreat, and turn the 21st century on its ear, whatever that means. That man is:

Bill Richardson.

Now, I'm probably not the right person to assess Bill Richardson as a game changer, because I always get him mixed up with Sandy Berger. Also, I thought Netroots might be having us on. So I let it go.

(I've also heard that Bill Richardson is a scandal waiting to happen, since he's a sex machine with all the chicks. But, again, I might be thinking of Berger.)

Anyway, I've been asking around, and here's the general thinking on what Obama needs in a Vice President:

A Military Background
So Obama doesn't get totally marginalized when we start bombing Iran in October.

Conservative
To balance his wife, Angela Davis.

Southern
So he can compete for the hardworking racists of Hillary's Appalachia.

Hispanic
Because there's nothing wrong with pandering identity politics when nice people do it.

A Woman
See above -- "Hispanic"

Older than Time Itself
Because Barack Obama is only five years old.

Jim Webb gets you "military" and "conservative." And "loose cannon," if we want to go toe-to-toe with McCain for the crazy bully vote. But he's not old enough.

Sam Nunn? I guess he's old. And he is a creep. There's that. But why would he do it? He's already been President in his head.

Bill Richardson is Hispanic, and held many, many, many jobs in the Clinton administration, none of which immediately come to mind.

Wesley Clark? I like Wesley Clark, but he's attached to Hillary Clinton like visible panty lines.

Kathleen Sebelius? There's no such thing as Kathleen Sebelius. I checked.

I know it sounds hopeless, but it's not. Obama just needs a running mate who's old, Hispanic, southern, female and enjoys state-sponsored violence, especially war.

Two words:

Eva. Peron.


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I know what you're going to say: Eva Peron can't be vice president -- she was born in Argentina. Relax. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. It won't be an issue.

And now you're going to say: "But Chris, isn't Eva Paron a waxy corpse, borne crazily from place to place by its fanatical followers?" Again, we'll be running against McCain.

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Not only was Eva Peron a woman, but she was also a Broadway musical. That means Frank Rich and Maureen Dowd will have to fight over who gets to compare her to Hillary. Bonus!


Just the other day (okay, a month and a half ago) I was having an off-the-record conversation with an extremely influential leader of the netroots community. How influential? Let me put it this way:...
Just the other day (okay, a month and a half ago) I was having an off-the-record conversation with an extremely influential leader of the netroots community. How influential? Let me put it this way:...
 
 
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03:11 PM on 06/03/2008
You just don't get it. Hillary supporters are turning a new page. We're gone and will make sure our votes count. McCain 08. It will be humorous seeing Obama try to pander to us. Obama and his mean supporters have done this to themselves. Even Hillary can't change the math for him.
12:54 PM on 06/03/2008
Very funny post, Chris. And I don't smile often. Good job.
12:24 PM on 06/03/2008
That's possibly the best thing I've read on HuffPost, with apologies to Bill Maher whose blogs I haven't seen much of here ... Eva Peron is a beautiful idea, the state-sponsored economic shock therapy and junta-forming magic combined with Obama being from the Chicago School (or at least being near a school in Chicago) is truly a winning combination.

Eva Peron would insulate Obama from being soft on terror. It would be easy for that ticket to play the terror by association card as Argentina was a neighbor during the original 9-11 of Chile in 1973 when Pinochet (with the help of the CIA and ITT) terrorized the country while Milton Friedman's Chicago School of economists busily worked on the a bible or brick of economic shock therapy to be put in place to privatize and plunder Chile. It's not really that different a worldview than Blackwater, so America should be ready for it.
10:51 AM on 06/03/2008
very funny

the column and the posts

but go back to school,

where are we headed; what will probably happen; what is the worst that could happen???

you are all missing the obvious best pick

fortunately Obama is smarter than all of you and probably has him near the top of the list

you know, all of the speculating is moot, because Obama must have good chemistry with his vp and only he can evaluate that

and there is one issue where this candidate could be an achilles heel or a gift from god depending on whether he's strong enough to embrace the obvious

enough clues for now

(oh, it's not one of the Manning Brothers)
10:16 AM on 06/03/2008
Co-Vice Presidents! Katie Couric and John Edwards. The three of them will look like the local news/weather/sports crew and they'll sweep all before them.
09:53 AM on 06/03/2008
Each candidate will choose a white male from a swing state. Can't win otherwise. Edwards for AG and Richardson at State. H&HS will be elevated to the level of State and Defense, and the Secty will reflect that.
12:11 PM on 06/03/2008
Like Webb, Richardson looks great, until you scratch the surface -- both would create problems with women, which is something I think Obama would like to avoid.

(see Kathy Geier's take on him: http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/ixnay_on_the_ebbway.php.

As for Richardson, I've heard the Clinton camp's vetting concluded that he was an inveterate cigar-chomping skirt chaser...).

I think Obama should ask Gore. Who else could better help us address the global climate crisis and transition into an energy-independent, carbon-neutral economy?
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09:45 AM on 06/03/2008
There's been some polling and John Edwards is doing well as his second. I just hope he's not branded karmically as a loser.
01:24 AM on 06/03/2008
i'm still laughing over "like a board game at an anger management retreat"
ROFLMAO!
01:15 AM on 06/03/2008
Cold hard calculas. That's all this is about. Whoever brings the most electoral votes to the candidate is the first choice. Does anyone disagree that this is Hillary?

The only reasonable argument I here against Hillary is that she's old-politics. That's bull. She's not her husband. She's only been an elected politician for 8 years. She's her own person. She didn't commit perjury. She's not disbarred. She didn't "just inhale". She's had a few gaffes like the Bosnia thing, but I don't see the evidence to suggest that she's the kind of natural liar that Bill might be.

In such a close primary, she's earned the offer. Give it to her.
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02:13 AM on 06/03/2008
Wow. No, seriously. Hillary is toxic.

Her negatives were abysmal before she made a caracture of herself - as the Tonya Harding/Fatal Attraction candidate.

I can't even imagine what her negatives are now that she tossed the kitchen sink and everything else in the house - stooped lower than low, tried to cheat, refuses to admit defeat, has no shame or ethics whatsoever, panders to racists as though it were acceptable, and stokes her man hating faux feminists into irational states of truly frightening rage that cannot have anything to do with elections.

Half the populace thinks she is seriously mentally ill, a megalomanical ar agressive narcissistic sociopath, and the rest think she is WORSE than Bush for tactics, lying and cheating.

TOXIC.

She has earned nothing, but hopefully a swift kick out of the democratic party, for undermining the nominee and promoting the republican the way she has.
10:33 AM on 06/03/2008
I agree. Hillary should at least be offered the VP spot. She is strong where Obama is weak. I don't think Richardson could pull off Ohio and Wv and I don't think Hillary's supporters trust Richardson. I think an Obama/Clinton ticket is the answer whether Obama's supporters like it or not.
10:48 AM on 06/03/2008
As a matter of fact, I do disagree. I like Senator Clinton, in spite of her sleazy campaign, but as Bill pointed out - oh, how ironic now! - with a Clinton, you get "two for the price of one." That is a bargain I'm not willing to make. I think Bill, as a president, was no better than average. Sure, he was the best in the last 40 years, but..... compared to what? Nixon? Reagan? The legacy of Bill's dalliances is the presidency of G.W. Bush. He did not have the courage to veto the Defense of Marriage Act, a statute that was both unnecessary to the goals of its supporters and an act of gratuitous evil against a large group of Americans.

I could make a good case that Bill's mouth has cost Senator Clinton the nomination. If she couldn't keep him muzzled during a primary campaign, how will she keep him in line if she's VP? Answer: she won't - not because she doesn't want to but because she can't, such is the level of his narcissism.
11:27 PM on 06/02/2008
bob dylan
11:22 PM on 06/02/2008
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10:48 PM on 06/02/2008
There is one person, a woman but tough enough to handle herself around the roughest of men, popular with the military, ethnic but in a European way, who has to be the only true choice:

Lili von Shtupp
12:05 PM on 06/03/2008
I'm so tired, tired of love uninspired, from below and above....
Enough of the schtupping, let's get on with the election
10:30 PM on 06/02/2008
Well, if he's NOT a scandal waiting to happen (Chick magnet? Really? I'm better looking, younger . . . Really? You sure?) then consider that:

In addition to experience -- executive (governor); federal (congress, Secy of Energy); foreign policy (Ambassador to UN, Foreign Relations Committee staff, State Dept. w/ Nixon/Kissinger); the list goes on -- he's smart (multilingual) and brings balance, balance, balance.

I've actually posted some of that information before. Think the ticket's a winner.
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11:28 PM on 06/02/2008
I'm on the fence about it. I like Richardson, but...........
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12:36 AM on 06/03/2008
I agree- Richardson will help to resolve two essential elements lacking in Obama's campaign. First is foreign policy experience that McCain and Co. are already focusing on. The second, and arguably even more important, is the Hispanic vote. Also, he doesn't carry the baggage that Hillary does.
09:48 PM on 06/02/2008
Well, if we are not going to be serious, how about Geraldine Ferraro? Surely there are still some people left to be offended that she could work on?

There are so many names that would be good: Bill Richardson, Chuck Hagel, Claire McCaskill, John Edwards, etc. Of course, the real key is how well they would work together. If we really were going to pull a woman from the grave to run for VP, I would want Ann Richards, the first victim of the Rove smear machine and the loss that marked the beginning of the disaster that is George Bush.
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07:04 PM on 06/02/2008
no mention of john edwards???
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08:22 PM on 06/02/2008
You can consider that a good thing! If you're an Edwards fan, I mean...
10:12 PM on 06/02/2008
What is the job of a VP candidate? Deliver one state that would otherwise be up for grabs. Given the closeness of the last two presidential elections, one state tips the balance of power. Joe Lieberman didn't deliver anything Al Gore wouldn't have won on his own. John Edwards couldn't even carry his home state.

Bring us one more state, VP. That's all that matters in picking the VP. And it's why Hillary makes no sense on the ticket.

Forget the symbolic VP candidate. Forget appeals to women or Hispanics in general. Select someone with the political machinery to deliver precious electoral votes that can put you over the top.

That points you in the direction of a Richardson (NM), Strickland (OH), Casey or Rendell (PA), Bayh (IN). Some were Clinton supporters. If it helps heal bridges, that's nice, but it's secondary. Show me your electoral votes!
02:30 AM on 06/03/2008
Obama can carry New Mexico without Richardson. In fact, he could probably flip Colorado and Nevada as well. He has a pretty good chance in Indiana, being from a neighboring state. Pennsylvania went to Kerry in 2004 and won't go Republican this year. It would sure be nice if Obama picked up Ohio as well... it's not out of reach. Point is, Obama can flip a few states on his own, regardless of VP, that Kerry didn't win. But I think Webb is interesting for this region. He will help Obama in his toughest region, Appalachia, and give him a fighting chance in Virginia which, surprisingly, is looking like a swing state this year.