What are you talking about? More importantly, why are you allowed to take up valuable space on this cool site?
Max Mosley is the president of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile, the governing body for Formula One racing. He's also been implicated -- and by "implicated," I mean "videotaped" -- in an unpleasant new British sex scandal involving concentration camp cosplay and getting whipped by hookers in a basement in Chelsea.
Oh, look, here's some videotape.
My favorite part is when they all have tea, afterward. There will always be an England.
The video has shocked a lot of tabloid-readers in Britain, because it doesn't feature Prince Harry. In most other places, people have been modestly creeped out. But not our friends at the National Review Online (and Fascism Clearinghouse). They saw the story behind the story: The salient point of this whole brouhaha?
Liberals are fascists.
And it all comes back to Hillary Clinton.
Here's Jonah Goldberg:
"Mosley's (Oswald Mosley, Max's father) sister-in-law Jessica Mitford, one of the Mitford Sisters (natch'), was a committed Communist who wrote The American Way of Death (which by many accounts is a good book I have yet to read). When Hungarian freedom fighters were slaughtered by the Soviets, Mitford said they were "fascist traitors" who had it coming. Jessica married the Stalinist California lawyer Robert Treuhaft (this NYT obit is hagiography), for whom Hillary Clinton worked as an intern."
If the mainstream media would just connect the dots!
Where to start? The clause "Which by many accounts is a good book I have yet to read" should be included in future grammar texts as an example of how not to write if you don't want people to think you're a retard. Who keeps these accounts of Goldberg's unread books? Sounds like a full-time job.
Is even one single word where it belongs?
And the rest of it? It won't even be sophistry when it grows up. It's just the loneliest kid in the cafeteria eating boogers to get laughs. The saddest part isn't that boogers are bad for you. The saddest part is he thinks he's cute.
Max Mosley was clearly screwed up by liberal parenting.
Signed,
Jonah Goldberg, Fascist Bootlicker.
P.S. Wanna see me eat pepper?
So, was Oswald Mosley a liberal, like his sister-in-law's husband's intern, Hillary? Or was he something else?
Here's a picture. That's Oswald Mosley, on the right.

Oswald Mosley was the leader of the British Union of Fascists. Its program included declaring all of England's Jews foreigners, as well as those "who have placed the interests of Jewry before those of Britain." They opposed England's entry into World War II, which, Mosley claimed, was started in the interests of "international Jewry." Members of the BUF wore black shirts, used the Nazi-fascist salute and sang the Horst Wessel song with English lyrics.
Or, as Jonah Goldberg would call them, hippies.
Mosley's autobiography, My Life must be another of those good books which by all accounts Jonah Goldberg has yet to read.
Which is weird, since William F. Buckley was chairman of the company that published it.
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What are you talking about? More importantly, why are you allowed to take up valuable space on this cool site?
The big deal, if we can call Formula 1 racing a big deal in the States, is that Grand Prix racing teams -- BMW, Mercedes, Honda and Toyota among them -- plus the AAA and several former driving greats are all calling for Max Mosley to resign because he is harming the image of the sport. Problem is, they say, this is not the first time scandalous sex has been linked with his name.
why would you use the word retard?
Because it's funny in certain contexts? (See Matt Dillon in "Something About Mary")
Not to seem ungrateful... I enjoy all your posts, but hasn't it been too long since we've heard from Michael Medved?
Oh dear, Chris. I think you meant sophomoric, not sophistry. It would make more sense as it relates to the "growing up" part. Funny post, though.
Mmm, I think he meant sophistry.
I still have no idea what the message behind this article is............
What would you like it to be?
I guess it can be anything i want it to be.
It's to point out that Jonah Goldberg's attempt to connect fascism to liberalism is absurd. Goldberg's latest book is "Liberal Fascism". And it's also a satirical way to point out the extent to which Hillary-haters will go to paint her as evil.
Why does anyone take that doofus Jonas Goldberg even remotely seriously. He has no understanding of Mussolini, much less anything else. He's an intellectual embarrassment. Only in Goldberg's mind does this make any sense.
The far right loves having people like Jonah and Coulter because it makes their own position look more sensible. Hence, a soapbox at the National Review from which he can toss bad analogies. Remember, Limbaugh seems to think he's The American Mainstream, even though the only people to the right of him are the Birchers and the God Hates F*gs guy.
Actually Goldberg's Clinton/Mosley connection makes perfect sense. He used the same quality research and analysis in writing his book, "Liberal Facism."
Does anyone remember the Elvis Costello "Less Than Zero," where Costello attacks Oswald Mosley and Britannia's fascination with fascistic solutions?
Does that make the Clintons and the neocons "Less than Zero" as well?
Mosely was not terribly popular in Britain and did time in jail during WWII.
Goldberg's remarks read like lots of word-magnets thrown onto a refrigerator door. It's not just that his associations are loose (when aren't they?), it's like word salad. Euphemistically speaking, Goldberg's thinking is unique. Considering the times we live in, it's not odd that he has a national voice, is it?
Also I think he has possibly identified the the wrong Mitford Sister...there were three Mitford girls. .One was a facist, but I am pretty sure it wasn't Jessica who lived in the Bay Area for a number of years before her death and enjoy great popularity among liberals and progressives.
Jessica Mitford is correctly identified as Oswald Mosley's sister in law. Mosley was married to Diana Mitford, Jessica's sister.
Indeed. Jessica and her sister Diana were rivals and probably not close. That is, the fascist and the communist did not see eye to eye, except in Goldberg's foggy mind.
Both Diana and Jessica were both fanatics, but at opposite ends of the political spectrum. Some people believe -- and I tend to agree -- that the one POV is just a goose-step away from the other. All fanatics share the same style of thinking, at the end of the day.
#1 - as an F1 fan, I know not to trust anything Max Mosley says or does, but to just roll with the whole issue and consider the source.
#2 - in having read Jonah Goldberg in the past, I cannot put anything past him when it comes to very strange criticisms of any Liberal or Dem (liberal or not).
#3 - this post came about on April Fools Day, so try not to get all wrapped-up in the story. The only item of any fact, is the Max Mosley debacle and that he is the son of the guy who was a Nazi/facist/national socialist/???
Hey, how about those Reds? (Okay, how do you take that comment? Am I referring to Communists or the Cincinnati Reds?) People jump in and associate the wrong things at the wrong times for the wrong reasons, without substance.
Leave out Obama, Clinton any other US political figure when discussing the life of a wealthy British personality. It is not relevant unless something deems it to be a close tie, like forensic evidence of some sort.
Happy April 2!!!
Actually the story came out March 31st (in the UK) and sadly is no joke.
I am also an avid (some say rabid) F1 fan, so to me this wasn't surprising at all since Mosleys' a nazi wanker anyway. In fact, it makes Elliot Spitzer look like a celibate social worker who looks after abandoned puppies and kittens in his spare time.
Agreed though, leave out the irrelevant connections to US politicians, that's just desperate grasping.
Where to start? The clause "Which by many accounts is a good book I have yet to read" should be included in future grammar texts as an example of how not to write if you don't want people to think you're a retard. Who keeps these accounts of Goldberg's unread books? Sounds like a full-time job.
LOL!!
Chris, you always make my day, but ESPECIALLY when you after that corpulent little whiner, Goldberg.
Be careful. On the Obamapost, this is likely to become gospel as a true connection because it is anti-HRC.
Oh, I get it... April 1st. April Fools.... (nah. wasn't that funny).
What a half-assed piece of dot connecting! Surely the rule for Clinton-related dot connection is that you're not allowed to stop until you have that coveted Whitewater connection.
This will be the subject of my forthcoming book "Blackshirts - Whitewater", which by many accounts is a good book I have yet to write.
You did mean White shirts - Blackwater, me thunk?
That was Vicki Iseman on the left. One mystery, at least, is now solved.
agreed
Let's set a side the notion that any fascist can be liberal for a moment (I don't think this is possible)...
Oswald Mosley's flirtation with fascism in the 1930s was hardly unique and was based not on Nasism but Musolini's less extreme form. In the 1920s through the rmilitarization of the Rhineland in 1936, Hilter was supported of many Wall Street corporate leaders, who lent equal supports to Communists. Once it became clear that money could not control Hitler, Wall Street withdrews its financial support but many men continued to disbelieve that Hilter was mad as a hatter. I'm not making excuses for Mosley; quite the contrary, I find his politics revolting. However, I believe that if people are going to cast aspirsions they should do so with equanimity and condemn the majority of the 1930s Wall Street investment types, which sadly consisted of many leading Democrats (the firm of W. Averell Harriman--Harriamn Brothers and its sucessor company Brown Brothers Harriman comes to mind but there were many others). It is unclear to what extent Harriman supported fascism as a political system and he may have simply been a good capitalist when his firm elected to fund Hitler's programs. Besides agreeing with Hitler's notions of corporate-government intergration, many of Britain and American's elitie/wealthy supported eugenics and applauded Hitler's goals of selective breeding to establish genetic purity.
You 'forgot' to add Prescott Bush as one of the beneficiaries of ties to the Third Reich; we continue to focus on Hitler and, conviniently, ignore the capitalist machine behind him:
Volkswagen
Mercedes Benz
Lufthansa
Krupp
Thyesen
BMW
and many more...
Does that look similar to what is going on in this country now? Isn't invading Iraq for its oil equivalent to invading Poland for its iron ore (see Krupp & Thyessen above)?
You forgot Ford Motor Company is your weak minded assessment. Ford provided material and machinery to Hitler prior to WW2. Nice try.
YEAH FACIST CAN BE LIBERIALS ASK ANY NEOCON.
Many liberals have a totalitarian-style adoration of their own beliefs. Lots of so-called liberals like to shout down oints of view they don't share.
Oswald Mosley's wife was Diana Mitford. Her and her sisters were tight pals with .. yup Adolph Hitler. Because Charles Mansion had a tattoo of the swastika on his forehead and long hair we can surmise that Hitler really started the hippie movement. Also the Hells Angels had long hair and wore bell bottoms so they must be liberals also.
Only one of Diana Mitford's sisters -- Unity -- was a tight pal with Hitler. Jessica was a Communist. The remaining three, Deborah, Nancy and Pamela, were not especially political.
I confess that anything ever written by Jonah Goldberg is a lousy book which by many accounts I have yet to read. I don't really feel I have to; after Chris gets done with anything this poor shlub puts to paper, actually reading his drivel would be an anti-climax. I wonder if Goldberg will take any heat at all for stating that a leader of British Fascists was a liberal, like his sister-in-law's husband's intern, although at the time she was an intern, wasn't she still fresh from being the head of the Young Republicans at Wellesley? So a Republican working for a liberal is clear evidence that Jessica Mitford got the Hungarian Revolution backwards, and should have stuck to writing about scam-artists in the American funeral industry?
Can you go nuts from eating boogers?
The best thing that could happen with this post would be if some readers found Nancy Mitford's novels (my favorite is Love in a Cold Climate) and Jessica Mitford's memoir of growing up in a very crazy and entertaining household (Hons and Rebels). All of the sisters were characters, and very political. Too bad Jonawww G. doesn't know the difference between them (but not surprising given his level of general ignorance).
Jane,
Spot on post. I always found the Mitford sisters quite interesting. I think Diana lived to be over a 100 and only recently passed away. The life of Unity Mitford would make a quite good movie and would have something relevant to say about many people today across many different currently in vogue and previously in vogue political belief systems. The basic deep structure film log line would be "Be careful who you fuck in up and coming ideological movements". Might be good advice for the current girlfriends (and hookers) of both NeoCons and DNC Dems starting with Wolfowitz's girlfriend.
Oswald Mosley made a better come back in European society after WWII than Richard Nixon after Watergate. And Nixon's wasn't half bad. I don't know if it was Unity or Diana (I think Unity) , but one of them told Hitler, as a woman, directly to his face that he was flat out wrong on some fundamental Nazi thinking. Considering all the passive lackeys in the Third Reich that ain't a bad record. She told him that he was basically full of shit in some of his top down Fuhrer thinking.
Of course, when WWII started, Unity shot herself. Hitler seemed to have that effect on the ladies around him in his life. Certainly not a good profile for eHarmony.com these days.
Posted April 1, 2008 | 01:48 PM (EST)