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Congressman Wants Citizens of ALL Religions to Reflect on the Ten Commandments (Redux)

Posted: 04/16/11 02:15 PM ET

Well, it's that time of year once again -- time for some theocratic member of Congress to push for a resolution proclaiming the first weekend of May "Ten Commandments Weekend," the timing of which is designed to coincide with the National Day of Prayer.

This year, the resolution comes from Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX). On April 7, Gohmert introduced H. Res. 211, a resolution "Expressing support for designation of the first weekend of May as Ten Commandments Weekend to recognize the significant contributions the Ten Commandments have made in shaping the principles, institutions, and national character of the United States."

Last year, the same resolution, with only a few very minor and entirely insignificant differences in wording, was introduced by Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) as H. Res. 1175, and in previous years other "Ten Commandments Weekend" resolutions were introduced by Sam Brownback and Joe Lieberman in the Senate, and Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) in the House.

Since Gohmert's H. Res. 211 is nearly identical to Broun's H. Res. 1175, I'm just going to repost what I wrote last year.

There is, however, one important difference between last year and this year that should be noted. While the Democrats controlled the committees, the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the committee to whom resolutions like this are typically referred, did a good job of keeping these resolutions from even getting to the floor for a vote. But now, with the Republicans in control, and eight members of Rep. Randy Forbes's (R-VA) Congressional Prayer Caucus, including Louie Gohmert, on this committee, I'm nowhere near as confident that this resolution will be stalled as I was last year. After all, we just saw the House Committee on the Judiciary's Subcommittee on the Constitution order that Forbes's resolution "Reaffirming 'In God We Trust' as the official motto of the United States," and supporting "the public display of the national motto in all public buildings, public schools, and other government institutions" be sent to the floor for a voice vote.

So, here's my post from last year, updated only slightly to replace Broun's name with Gohmert's, and to change the resolution's number, date, cosponsors, and exact text to the current H. Res 211. Nothing else has changed except for the likelihood that this thing might actually be passed.

Congressman Wants Citizens of ALL Religions to Reflect on the Ten Commandments

Well, spring is in the air, and that can mean only one thing: it's time for a member of Congress to introduce a resolution proclaiming the first weekend of May "Ten Commandments Weekend." This time, the resolution comes from Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX).

These kinds of resolutions almost always contain a dose of Christian nationalist American history revisionism, and Gohmert's resolution, H. Res. 211, is no different. In fact, just like Sen. Sam Brownback in his 2008 Ten Commandments Weekend resolution, and Broun in his, Gohmert includes a quote from John Quincy Adams in one of his "Whereas" clauses: "Whereas the sixth President of the United States, John Quincy Adams, declared the Ten Commandments to be 'laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation, which ever professed any code of laws.'"

And, just like Brownback and Broun did in their resolutions, Gohmert omits the part of the quote in which Adams made it clear that many of the laws of the Old Testament were "adapted to that time only" and binding only on the ancient Jews. Here's what Adams actually wrote, in a letter to his son:

"The law given from Sinai was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code; it contained many statutes adapted to that time only, and to the particular circumstances of the nation to whom it was given; they could of course be binding upon them, and only upon them, until abrogated by the same authority which enacted them, as they afterward were by the Christian dispensation; but many others were of universal application -- laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation, which ever professed any code of laws."

(I think it might be relevant to note here that John Quincy Adams, although personally quite religious, took his presidential oath of office on a law book containing the Constitution rather than a Bible, because he was swearing that as president he would uphold the Constitution, not the Bible.)

Gohmert borrowed a few of the other historically questionable "Whereas" clauses from Brownback's 2008 resolution, but historical distortion is not the most outrageous thing about H. Res. 211. While the first two "resolves" of Gohmert's resolution are copied almost word for word from Brownback, the third is beefed up, calling for citizens of ALL religions to reflect on the Ten Commandments. Even Brownback didn't go this far.

Resolved, That the House of Representatives --

(1) supports the designation of Ten Commandments Weekend;

(2) celebrates the significant role the Ten Commandments have played in the development of significant public and private institutions of the United States; and

(3) encourages citizens of all faiths and religious persuasions to reflect on the important impact that the Ten Commandments have had on the people and national character of the United States.


Apparently, Gohmert doesn't see any problem whatsoever with Congress encouraging people of "all faiths and religious persuasions" to follow his religion. After all, as he expressed in another of his resolution's "Whereas" clauses, the laws of his religion "transcend the diversity of cultural expression and faith in the United States."

Here's the full text of H. Res. 211:

112th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 211

Expressing support for designation of the first weekend of May as Ten Commandments Weekend to recognize the significant contributions the Ten Commandments have made in shaping the principles, institutions, and national character of the United States.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 7, 2011

Mr. GOHMERT (for himself, Mr. HUIZENGA of Michigan, Mr. GINGREY of Georgia, Mr. BROOKS, Mrs. SCHMIDT, Mr. SOUTHERLAND, Mr. GOSAR, Mr. PENCE, Mr. HERGER, Mr. LAMBORN, Mr. WEBSTER, Mr. WALBERG, Mrs. HARTZLER, Mr. STUTZMAN, Mr. BARTLETT, Mr. BISHOP of Utah, Mr. GIBBS, Mr. DANIEL E. LUNGREN of California, Mr. WILSON of South Carolina, Mr. JONES, Mr. BROUN of Georgia, and Mr. NEUGEBAUER) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform

RESOLUTION

Expressing support for designation of the first weekend of May as Ten Commandments Weekend to recognize the significant contributions the Ten Commandments have made in shaping the principles, institutions, and national character of the United States.

Whereas from the founding days of the United States, the Ten Commandments have been part of the Nation's basic cultural fabric;

Whereas the sixth President of the United States, John Quincy Adams, declared the Ten Commandments to be `laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation, which ever professed any code of laws';

Whereas the Ten Commandments are a widely respected code of personal conduct and a declaration of fundamental principles for a fair and just society that transcend the diversity of cultural expression and faith in the United States;

Whereas a marble relief of Moses, the bearer of the Ten Commandments, is prominently displayed over the gallery doors of the chamber of the House of Representatives, in the United States Capitol;

Whereas images of the Ten Commandments are prominently displayed in many Federal buildings, such as the United States Supreme Court, National Archives, and Library of Congress; and

Whereas in addition to being understood as an elemental source for United States law, the Ten Commandments have become a recognized symbol in the Nation's culture: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives --

(1) supports the designation of Ten Commandments Weekend;

(2) celebrates the significant role the Ten Commandments have played in the development of significant public and private institutions of the United States; and

(3) encourages citizens of all faiths and religious persuasions to reflect on the important impact that the Ten Commandments have had on the people and national character of the United States.

 
 
 
 
 
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CalSailor
Christian, therefore liberal
06:19 PM on 05/03/2011
Not only that, but WHICH 10 commandments? The Hebrew bible does NOT number them; it has been left to others to do that. Roman Catholic and some Protestants, for example, omit the second commandment as a subtext of the first, and then include two commandments dealing with coveting. So, which ten commandments, and which numbering system shall be the "official" version? Until we can straighten out among those of the biblical tradition, it seems maybe we should get our own house in order, first?!

Pr Chris
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mercury613
In the blue TV screen light
02:27 PM on 04/19/2011
I wonder which version of the Ten Commandments he's referring to? The one that includes "The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep" and "All that openeth the matrix is mine; and every firstling among thy cattle, whether ox or sheep, that is male"?
12:01 PM on 04/19/2011
What the hell are these lawmakers doing?!

With all the other important things to do, they're spending our tax dollars honoring a religious concern.

Forget about the first commandment. What about the first ammendment?! ("Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion….") So, put aside this nonsense and get back to work!
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catcancook
Going Forward 2013-2016
10:23 AM on 04/19/2011
Don't these Congressmen have Anything Better to do in DC than this C...P? They are being derelict in their duties by wasting the American People's time writing bills on creating a religious observant weekend. This is not why they were sent to Washington!

Shoving their religious ideas down American's throats is NOT in their job description. This is not how I want my taxpayer dollars spent. Get off their duffs and DO something significant for the Tax Payers instead of this hogwash.
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GoodwithWood
Dis eas all yoooour fault
10:43 PM on 04/18/2011
Ok so I thought about it and I still don't get how we know wether or not my neighbor is coveting my wife or my stuff.
Yet I did see him mowing his lawn on the sabbath and kneeling before the tube praying to American Idol.
The Bible is clear about what I should do. I'll go collect the stones.
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Smithn
~ 13.7 Billion Years:::: i am not. BANG! I am.
04:01 PM on 04/18/2011
A pack of mangy hypocritical ol' dawgs worrying an old bone: let this breed become extinct, please.
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03:52 PM on 04/18/2011
We'll reflect on them when they start following them.
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Jody Dobis
03:52 PM on 04/18/2011
JB Denver Statement:

"the forced overtime is typically more expensive than increasing staff to a business if the increased workload is expected to continue."

Absolutely untrue. The system, as a result of over priced benefits, forces business to work their staffs as hard as possible before giving in to adding employees. As to the jitters of the business community, it shows the lack of risk taking by the group that is expected to take risks before anyone else. In my opinion, this shows a lack of confidence in the capitalist system we use to trust.
03:50 PM on 04/18/2011
Since the ten commandments originated in the middle east, don't they constitute foreign law? Several state legislatures have introduced bills prohibiting the use of foreign law in their jurisdiction, now it looks like the U.S. House is endorsing the use of foreign law.
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Chris Rodda
08:30 AM on 04/19/2011
I always try to pick a favorite comment on each of my posts, and millee is the winner for this one for thinking of an argument against this crap that I hadn't thought about! Very nice!
letsbepeaceful
oh no, my micro-bio is now full...
01:56 PM on 04/18/2011
The whole ethic can be summed up in one statement: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It doesn't always work, but if more people followed it, we'd all be better off.

If you want people to be nice to you, be nice to them.
If you don't want people to kill your relatives, don't kill theirs. (murder)
If you don't want your stuff to be taken without permission, don't take stuff that belongs to others without permission. (adultery, stealing)
Etc.

No religion at all involved.
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lissy0625
Love is always the answer.
02:30 PM on 04/18/2011
While I am Christian but believe everyone has a right to choose what they believe (unlike some other christians), I find the 10 Commandments are highly logical and helpful.
mojorain
Rules of my tribe are not natural law
03:20 PM on 04/18/2011
Murder is killing by stealth and not admitting to the deed ie: Cain killing Able.

However, if we have a blood feud, and we meet in an alley... and I stab you in the heart with my dagger, and my dagger has my name on it...

scenario 1: I leave my dagger in your heart, and I tell at least one person after I leave the alley.
scenario 2: I remove my dagger. And don't tell anyone.

Or in the old West... shot in the back.

Scenario 2 is murder. Scenario 1 is at most manslaughter.

however, Congress whould practice what they preach.
letsbepeaceful
oh no, my micro-bio is now full...
03:42 PM on 04/18/2011
Murder is deliberately killing someone, either preplanned, or decided during another crime (such as robbery, where people are told to lie on the floor and the perpetrator shoots them anyway), according to the law.

Manslaughter is without prior intention - good question as to which your example of blood feud would be. I doubt, however, that it would matter whether you left the dagger or not.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
07:36 PM on 04/20/2011
Murder is premeditated killing. Admitting to it is neither here nor there.

Manslaughter is killing through recklessness. Admitting it is neither here nor there.
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stuoverit
"What year did Jesus think it was?"-GC
01:13 PM on 04/18/2011
I guess a document that doesn't speak against rape, incest and genocide indeed shares a special place in the US' history.
12:54 PM on 04/18/2011
We already have a holiday thew first weekend in May. It's called BELTAINE !!!
mojorain
Rules of my tribe are not natural law
03:20 PM on 04/18/2011
And I will be dancing the Maypole!!
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MikeDu
Both salubrious and lugubrious concurrently.
11:41 AM on 04/18/2011
Some irony in a Texas Republican reflecting on the Ten commandments. Especially the one about bearing false witness... oh, and the one about coveting your neighbor's ass.
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iconoclast6
This is my BOOM stick!
11:35 AM on 04/18/2011
Does anyone in Congress even realize that Old Testament law was plagiarized from the Code of Hammurabi?
11:56 AM on 04/18/2011
Hammurabi's code was much better . . . I think Congress thinks the world began with Adam and Eve and that most of ancient history didn't happen because it wasn't mentioned in the bible ,.. . they might not know who Hammurabi was . . .
11:12 AM on 04/18/2011
So which Constitutional Amendement are they offering to go with this one? Wasn't it one of the very first thiongs the House did was to require that all billing coming to the floor cite the Constitutional amendment that says Congress can do it?

Ah, here it is:
Rule XII, clause 7(c) requires that, to be accepted for introduction by the House Clerk, all bills (H.R.) and joint resolutions (H.J.Res.) must provide a document stating “as specifically as practicable the power or powers granted to Congress in the Constitution to enact the bill or joint resolution.” The requirement is mandatory, and the House Clerk appears to have the authority to reject introduction of any bill and/or joint resolution that is not accompanied by such a statement.
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Chris Rodda
11:44 AM on 04/18/2011
Damn good question! Faved.
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Chris Rodda
11:56 AM on 04/18/2011
Ah … I see what it is. This House rule only applies to joint resolutions, and not to House resolutions, which is what these religious things are almost always introduced as. So, they made their little 'it has to be Constitutional' rule not apply to their theocratic resolutions. Very clever.
12:32 PM on 04/18/2011
No it applies to HRs as well.

"all bills (H.R.) and joint resolution­s (H.J.Res.) must provide a document stating..."