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Chris Rodda

Chris Rodda

Posted: July 8, 2010 09:44 PM

This installment of my series debunking the American history lies told by Glenn Beck is about a study published in 1984 in The American Political Science Review, and how that study is misrepresented to make it appear that our founding documents were based on the Bible, especially the Book of Deuteronomy.

(Note: This is part four of an ongoing video series. I would normally provide links to the previous installments, but Vimeo has removed my videos, citing copyright issues, although these videos were well within the limits of "fair use.")

UPDATE: The issue with Vimeo has been resolved. They promptly reviewed my videos and have restored the ones that were removed. So, the first three installments are once again available: Part 1, Part 2, Part 3.


Here's the transcript of what I said in the video, for those who can't watch videos at work, or have slow connections:

The study referred to by Beck and Barton was conducted by Donald S. Lutz of the University of Houston. Lutz published his findings in a 1984 article in The American Political Science Review, and misrepresentations of it began appearing a few years later. The first one was in John Eidsmoe's 1987 book Christianity and the Constitution, which was soon followed by the version most often seen today -- the one created by David Barton in his 1988 book The Myth of Separation.

What revisionists like Barton typically do to distort this study is to accurately present some of the charts of the study's findings, but omit the parts of Lutz's explanations of these findings that explain what the numbers in the charts actually mean. That way they can just replace the real explanations with whatever they want their followers to think the numbers mean.

So, let's start with what Barton said on Beck about the writings of the founders: "34% of their quotes came out of the Bible." That comes from this chart in Lutz's study.

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Now, based on this chart alone it really does appear that 34% of the citations in the documents studied came from the Bible. That's because they did. And, without Lutz's explanation of this figure, this chart would seem to support Barton's claim that the Bible, more than any other source, influenced the political thought of the founders.

But let's take a look at Lutz's explanation of that chart:

"...From Table 1 we can see that the biblical tradition is most prominent among the citations. Anyone familiar with the literature will know that most of these citations come from sermons reprinted as pamphlets; hundreds of sermons were reprinted during the era, amounting to at least 10% of all pamphlets published. These reprinted sermons accounted for almost three-fourths of the biblical citations..."


So, in other words, about three-quarters of all the Bible citations that make up that 34% came from sermons, a sub-category of just one of the categories of the types of documents used in the study, and "anyone familiar with the literature," as Barton incessantly claims to be, would know that. And this bumps the Bible down into the range of classical influences for all the documents that weren't sermons, and moves the enlightenment and whig influences into the number one and two spots for all the documents that weren't sermons.

But, of all the findings in this study that are omitted by Barton and the other revisionists, none are nearly as important as those found in the section of Lutz's article titled "The Pattern of Citations from 1787 to 1788."

As seen in the first chart, Lutz broke down the number of citations from all sources by decade.

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But, in addition to this, he also singled out the writings from 1787 and 1788, the crucial two year period when our government was actually being formed. The revisionists completely omit this part of the study. Why? Because Lutz found hardly any biblical citations during the time that the Constitution was being written and debated in the press, and, on top of that, not a single one of these biblical references were found in any of the federalist writings in support of the Constitution. The only ones he found were used by the anti-federalists to argue against the Constitution.

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Here's what Lutz wrote about this.

"The Bible's prominence disappears, which is not surprising since the debate centered upon specific institutions about which the Bible has little to say. The Anti-Federalists do drag it in with respect to basic principles of government, but the Federalists' inclination to Enlightenment rationalism is most evident here in their failure to consider the Bible relevant."


But omitting pesky little parts of the study like this one, and merely misrepresenting the study's 34% Bible citation figure wasn't good enough for David Barton, so he found a way to inflate that figure, making a whopping 94% of the quotes used by the founders come from the Bible. How did he do this? Well, he took the other sources listed in the study, like Montesquieu, Blackstone, and Locke, and then claimed that because some of these other sources "derived their ideas from the Bible," the founders were indirectly quoting the Bible when they cited these other sources. Barton somehow determined by this method that an additional 60% of the citations in Lutz's study came from the Bible, added this 60% to the already misrepresented 34% from the actual study, and, voilà, 94% of all quotes used by the founders came from the Bible.

In his article, Lutz said that more of the biblical citations he found came from the Book of Deuteronomy than any other book in the Bible, which is why Glenn Beck said that Deuteronomy is "the most quoted out of any of our founding documents." But, besides all those quotes from Deuteronomy, Barton, in his "study," added things like the founders getting the idea for the concept of the separation of powers from the Book of Isaiah, because Isaiah 33:22 says, "For the Lord is our judge, the Lord is our lawgiver, and the Lord is our king." So, there you have it: three branches of government, and they're all "the Lord." He's the judge, the lawgiver, and the king. It's exactly the same as our government -- except for that pesky checks and balances thing, and that minor detail of not having a king who controlled everything.

Barton first published published his "findings" in his 1988 book The Myth of Separation, and repeated it in one of his videos, and from there it spread. Here's Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana using Barton's 94% statistic and other claims in the House of Representatives back in 1993, citing Barton's book nearly verbatim.

Now, I haven't heard Barton use his pumped up 94% statistic in a while, but this really doesn't matter because once Barton puts something out there it takes on a life of its own, and continues to be used whether Barton himself is still using it or not.

In April 2007, it showed up in an article on WorldNetDaily titled Bringing the Bible Back Into Public Schools, by Chuck Norris, a board member and spokesman for the National Council On Bible Curriculum In Public Schools (NCBCPS). Norris was regurgitating the even more distorted version of Barton's claim about the Lutz study that's found on the NCBCPS website's "Founding Fathers" page. The NCBCPS people claim that it was actually the Lutz study, not David Barton, that "found that 94% of the documents that went into the Founding era were based on the Bible," and that it's not just that 34% of the citations Lutz found were from the Bible, but that "34% of the contents" of these documents "were direct quotations from the Bible." This is what I mean by Barton's lies taking on a life of their own. It's like a game of what I call "fundy telephone." Barton puts out the original lie, and it gets repeated over and over for years -- in this case over two decades -- eventually becoming an even bigger lie than Barton started.

And, the use of Barton's lies by the NCBCPS brings me to my final point. Barton does nothing to stop this, even when he obviously has the power to do so. Barton is on the advisory board of the NCBCPS, but apparently his "advice" doesn't include stopping this curriculum from using bogus quotes that even he himself advises his followers not to use.

Quite a few years ago, after being called out on some of his bogus founders' quotes, Barton put out a list of "Unconfirmed Quotations," and advises the readers of his website to "refrain from using them until such time that an original primary source may be found." And yet six of these bogus quotes from Barton's own "Unconfirmed Quotations" list, among them the infamous James Madison Ten Commandments quote, appear in the NCBCPS curriculum. So what, exactly, is NCBCPS advisory board member Barton advising this organization on? How to promote his lies and get them into our public schools?

And, just last week on Glenn Beck, John Hagee repeated one of these bogus quotes that Barton put out there, but now advises his followers not to use: the one about George Washington saying, "It's impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible," while fellow guest Barton just stayed silent and listened to someone spread a quote that he knows is bogus to millions of gullible Americans.

I sometimes get criticized, even by those who think that Barton is a complete charlatan, for coming right out and calling him a liar. They ask me how I can be sure that he's intentionally lying, and not just a really crappy historian. Well, it's moments like that one with John Hagee that expose him as the liar that he is, and that is exactly what I will continue to call him.

 
 
 
 
 
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philosophicgirl
02:02 PM on 08/28/2010
Again I just want to THANK YOU for taking the time and energy to show that David Barton is deliberately fabricating information in order to support his own fundamentalist Christian beliefs. His ultimate goal is to 're-write history' as a Christian Nation.

The problem as you've already said, is that people believe him. People already believed him in many of the fundamental Christian communities, which is bad enough. But now Beck has given him a secular platform where he can spread his lies and that is scary as hell.
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10:43 PM on 07/17/2010
Beck wants to be Arnold Toynbee, but ends up looking like Arnold Ziffel.
12:48 PM on 07/13/2010
Are you talking about the fear monger ""THE John Hagee"" of TV land?

Geezuzz.
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TankGirlz
Lyrical Combat
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10:03 AM on 07/12/2010
My dear Chris:
On what do you think the sermons were on, fishing, hunting, planting corn, perhaps you think they were on pertinent discussions on your future brilliance, From time primordial Preachers preach GODS word ( unless the are modern day, Office of Faith Based Parnership preachers, and then they still preach scripture, only skewed to political purpose, oh like your article is.), I wouldn't expect you to know this but for those who go to church it is common knowledge that scripture is quoted and the basis of sermons.
The premise on which you base you story on is so full of holes it is a noodle strainer. But thank you for so cleverly confirming those pandering twits Barton and Beck right, just when we thought those two clowns were gone in a puff of logic, bam you bring them back to life because you can't even support your own argument in logic, thanks.

Ok that's said how about some news?
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Chris Rodda
12:11 PM on 07/12/2010
Why do all the people here defending Beck and Barton seem to have a collective reading comprehension problem? I must have explained my point about the sermons clearly enough, since everyone else obviously understood what I meant.

I did not say that the sermons didn't contain political content. All I did was point out, using a direct quote from the guy who did the study, that the majority of the biblical citations were found in sermons. Obviously, Lutz thought this was an important enough distinction to include a paragraph explaining it in his article. So, based on the explanation from the Lutz, which said that three-fourths of the biblical quotes actually came from the sermons, (although sermons were obviously not three-quarters of the documents in the study), I just took out a calculator and calculated what the distribution of biblical citations would have been in the rest of the documents, and found that the Enlightenment and Whig citations would have been the most prominent in these other categories of documents. Unless someone thinks I made a mathematical error, I really don't see how this can be argued with.

But, what I'd really like to know is why none of the Beck and Barton defenders have commented at all on the thing that I said was the most important point -- that the study found that the Bible was not cited at all by the federalists during the period when the Constitution was being written and debated.
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Valkyrie Ice
Writer for H+ Magazine, and commenter at random
01:35 PM on 07/12/2010
Why? Perhaps this study will explain things a little.

http://www.futurehead.com/index.php/Headlines/when-evidence-is-unwelcome-people-try-to-reason-it-away.html

to sum it up?

What do people do when confronted with scientific evidence that challenges their pre-existing view? Often they will try to ignore it, intimidate it, buy it off, sue it for libel or reason it away.
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03:14 PM on 07/12/2010
Rebuttal back at cha darlin, I cleary stated my feeling towards Barton and beck I don't prefer their way. But show me hardcopies of the materials used to formulate your data, prove they are not scriptural in content or reference. Failing this, any presumption of a clergy based writing ( of that day) not being church/ scriptural base is insipid tripe, and a insult to common intelligence. Frankly my issue with you theisis is the gaping garage door you left open for the ( deleted) beck and Barton to drive thru, like they need more ammo from us.
If you have links use them, don't leave the doors open, sorry to be so tuff but I wanted your attention.
Other than the open door ,( provided documentation verrification) you wrote a good piece, just use better door locks.
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squat6971
59 *was* divine -- 60? 61? not so much
10:00 AM on 07/12/2010
Thanks for doing the hard work of demonstrating GBU's fundamental lack of intellectual honesty.

Nothing unexpected, but nice to have it all laid out
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Poorsarah
09:31 AM on 07/12/2010
How about our idiotic politicians, journalists, etc. quit bickering about what the constitution really means and start focusing on getting livable wage jobs back for the American people. Can I get a witness???
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tnkeating
Dyslexic agnostic insomniac
02:28 PM on 07/11/2010
Man I gotta go take a nap, thats a good read. Sorry but its raining
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JohnBryansFontaine
Liberal Democrat
01:38 PM on 07/11/2010
Sharron Angle, The Constitution Party, And The New Religious Right
By Liam Fox

http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/06/20/sharron-angle-the-constitution-party-and-the-new-religious-right/
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
08:13 AM on 07/11/2010
I can't figure out how anyone can say the constitution was written using christian values, whenever the writers were mostly slave owners. Is slave ownership a christian value???
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
10:09 AM on 07/11/2010
The Southern Baptists at one time would have said absolutely. They were originally founded as a pro-slavery denomination in 1845.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
10:40 AM on 07/11/2010
That must be one of the reasons I don't care for these people!!!
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Mo Reno
02:39 AM on 07/12/2010
Well, slavery IS condoned in the Bible...
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
04:10 PM on 07/12/2010
Still ain't what Jesus would do.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
07:55 AM on 07/11/2010
These people won't stop until they have their theocracy. If you're not afraid, you should be.
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termgirl
terminate nuclear power
04:08 PM on 07/11/2010
Hear, hear.
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SEQUOIABISON
President of the Sequoia Bison Society a non profi
07:25 AM on 07/11/2010
Basically the mission statement regarding the purpose of the Beck University should read; “hey, we got our piece of the pie now to hell with everyone else”.
11:36 PM on 07/10/2010
Funny how many spend an awful lot of time trying to unravel Rodda, and claim this is all her opinion. They try to come off as the grownups in the group. But at no time do they denounce Barton for all his misgivings and truths be stretched. Lets see, what did chris12 say?

">>>Barton puts out the original lie>>>
Otherwise known as his own personal assessments, opinions and conclusions. Same as you do. "

It's ok for Bartons lies- I mean "personal assessments", but you are trying to drive a stake thru Roddas heart for hers. Which if you have gone thru all her stuff, has many. many times gone beyond personal assessment, and outright showed how Barton is lying. Just like every other tighty righty- Ya think your better than Jesus.
09:21 AM on 07/13/2010
There is no one I know from the right who is as meticulous as Chris Rodda at footnoting and documenting primary sources. Mostly they quote each other and flawed and often distorted quotes or false quotes from secondary and later sources, often umpteenth generation derivatives.
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therealist2000
The day We the People bring down Corporate America
10:19 PM on 07/10/2010
Glen Beck wants to use the Constitution to support his causes. Liberals try to interpret the Constitution one way. Conservatives try to spin it another way. Everybody wants to find something in the document to support their claims or assertions. It is similar to using the Bible to read to one's liking and we can probably say the same thing for any document of significance.

To what end? Interpreting a document x rather than y may be good for talking heads but it does little to have the documents updated to comport with 21st Century reality rather than 18th Century reality. When a document becomes symbolic or iconic any change to it becomes blasphemy.

So what is the answer to Glen Beck's spin of the Constitution or for that matter anybody else's spin on the Constitution? The answer is to de-formalize the Constitution. To allow a series of documents of importance grow, collect, and added to in order to keep pace with reality. If a document becomes fossilized, it may have symbolic value but little that comports with reality. It may be better to have an Informal Constitution that binds yet does not have time to fossilize.
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Lee Seligman
03:45 AM on 07/11/2010
we already do ... it's called Supreme Court Reports [U.S.] ... the problem lies not with the Constitution but with 5 Justices who believe the document is only to be interpreted according to their interpretation of the founders intent ... of course only when it suits their preconceived outcome ... both liberal and conservative Justices and Judges may be rightly called "activist" ... the degree depends on the cases !
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therealist2000
The day We the People bring down Corporate America
02:57 PM on 07/11/2010
Sorry, I must disagree with you. The problem is much deeper. The whole Constitution needs to be re-drafted.
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ProudObamacan
A Real Republican - not a Right Wingnut
07:49 PM on 07/10/2010
Even before reading the details on this post, I looked at the background of David Barton - all one has to do is see that he got a BA from Orel Roberts University, considered on of America's worst institutions of learning (notice not higher learning). So, I guess, that he is perfectly able to "teach" at Beck U.
Then I read the post and clearly, well explained and researched. But, I never doubted that.
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huffponewbie
05:27 PM on 07/12/2010
I looked him up as well and as soon as I saw his alma mater I dismissed him. I also looked him up on my libraries database and guess what? not one peer reviewed article. MMM...wonder why that is?