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Chris Rodda

Chris Rodda

Posted: August 19, 2010 04:50 PM

For the past several years, two U.S. Army posts in Virginia, Fort Eustis and Fort Lee, have been putting on a series of what are called Commanding General's Spiritual Fitness Concerts. As I've written in a number of other posts, "spiritual fitness" is just the military's new term for promoting religion, particularly evangelical Christianity. And this concert series is no different.

On May 13, 2010, about eighty soldiers, stationed at Fort Eustis while attending a training course, were punished for opting out of attending one of these Christian concerts. The headliner at this concert was a Christian rock band called BarlowGirl, a band that describes itself as taking "an aggressive, almost warrior-like stance when it comes to spreading the gospel and serving God."

Any doubt that this was an evangelical Christian event was cleared up by the Army post's newspaper, the Fort Eustis Wheel, which ran an article after the concert that began:

Following the Apostle Paul's message to the Ephesians in the Bible, Christian rock music's edgy, all-girl band BarlowGirl brought the armor of God to the warriors and families of Fort Eustis during another installment of the Commanding General's Spiritual Fitness Concert Series May 13 at Jacobs Theater.


The father of the three Barlow sisters who make up the band was also quoted in the article, saying, "We really believe that to be a Christian in today's world, you have to be a warrior, and we feel very blessed and privileged that God has given us the tool to deliver His message and arm His army."

A few days later, some of the soldiers punished for choosing not to attend this concert contacted the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). The following is from the account sent by one of those soldiers to MRFF, detailing what transpired that night.

The week prior to the event the [unit name and NCO's name withheld] informed us of a Christian rock event that was about to take place on Thursday the 13th.

"On Thursday 13th at 1730 we were informed that instead of being dismissed for the day, the entire company (about 250 soldiers) would march as a whole to the event. Not only that, but to make sure that everyone is present we were prohibited from going back to the barracks (to eliminate the off chance that some might "hide" in their rooms and not come back down).

We were marched as a whole to chow and were instructed to reform outside the dining facility. A number of soldiers were disappointed and restless. Several of us were of different faith or belief. A couple were particularly offended (being of Muslim faith) and started considering to disobey the order.

From the dining facility we were marched back to the company area. There was a rumor circulating that we may be given a choice later on to fall out or attend. Though it was only a rumor it was also a small hope enough to allow us to follow along a little longer before choosing to become disobedient. We were marched back to the company area. To our dismay there was still no sign of us having a choice.

We started marching to the theater. At that point two Muslim soldiers fell out of formation on their own. Student leadership tried to convince them to fall back in and that a choice will be presented to us once we reach the theater.

At the theater we were instructed to split in two groups; those that want to attend versus those that don't. At that point what crossed my mind is the fact that being given an option so late in the game implies that the leadership is attempting to make a point about its intention. The "body language" was suggesting that "we marched you here as a group to give you a clue that we really want you to attend (we tilt the table and expect you to roll in our direction), now we give you the choice to either satisfy us or disappoint us." A number of soldiers seemed to notice these clues and sullenly volunteered for the concert in fear of possible consequences.

Those of us that chose not to attend (about 80, or a little less that half) were marched back to the company area. At that point the NCO issued us a punishment. We were to be on lock-down in the company (not released from duty), could not go anywhere on post (no PX, no library, etc). We were to go to strictly to the barracks and contact maintenance. If we were caught sitting in our rooms, in our beds, or having/handling electronics (cell phones, laptops, games) and doing anything other than maintenance, we would further have our weekend passes revoked and continue barracks maintenance for the entirety of the weekend. At that point the implied message was clear in my mind "we gave you a choice to either satisfy us or disappoint us. Since you chose to disappoint us you will now have your freedoms suspended and contact chores while the rest of your buddies are enjoying a concert."

At that evening, nine of us chose to pursue an EO complaint. I was surprised to find out that a couple of the most offended soldiers were actually Christian themselves (Catholic). One of them was grown as a child in Cuba and this incident enraged him particularly as it brought memories of oppression.


The account of another soldier who did not attend the concert, which relates the same sequence of events and punishment that occurred, also adds that some of the soldiers who did decide to attend only did so due to pressure from their superiors and fear of repercussions.

At the theater is the first time our options were presented to us. And they were presented to us in a way that seemed harmless, we could either go to the show, or go to the barracks. But at that point, I felt pressured. As a person, I know that I can't be pressured into anything, I'm much stronger than that. But I also know that a lot of people aren't that strong, and that pressure was present. I could hear people saying, "I don't know about going back to the barracks, that sounds suspicious, I'm going to go ahead and go to the show" and many things that sounded a lot like that. Now, like I said, I don't get pressured into things, but I also don't think that anybody should have to feel that kind of pressure. Making somebody feel that pressure is a violation of human rights, we are allowed to think what we want about religion and not have to feel pressured into doing things, and at that moment there was definitely pressure to go to that concert simply because people don't want to have their free time taken away.


The Commanding General's Spiritual Fitness Concert Series was the brainchild of Maj. Gen. James E. Chambers, who, according to an article on the Army.mil website, "was reborn as a Christian" at the age of sixteen. According to the article, Chambers held the first concert at Fort Lee within a month of becoming the commanding general of the Combined Arms Support Command and Fort Lee in June 2008. But he had already started the series at Fort Eustis, as the previous commanding general there. The concerts have continued at Fort Eustis under the new commanding general, as well as spreading to Fort Lee under Maj. Gen. Chambers. The concerts are also promoted to the airmen on Langley Air Force Base, which is now part of Joint Base Langley-Eustis.

In the Army.mil article, Maj. Gen. Chambers was quoted as saying, "The idea is not to be a proponent for any one religion. It's to have a mix of different performers with different religious backgrounds." But there has been no "mix of different performers with different religious backgrounds" at these concerts. Every one of them has had evangelical Christian performers, who typically not only perform their music but give their Christian testimony and read from the Bible in between songs.

Another problem with these concerts, besides the issues like soldiers being punished for choosing not to attend them, is that they are run by the commanders, and not the chaplains' offices. It is absolutely permissible for a chaplain's office to put on a Christian concert. It is not permissible for the command to put on a Christian concert, or any other religious event. Having a religious concert series that is actually called and promoted as a Commanding General's Concert Series is completely over the top.

And then there's the cost. These concerts aren't just small events with local Christian bands. We're talking about the top, nationally-known, award-winning Christian artists, with headline acts costing anywhere from $30,000 to $100,000, and even many of the opening acts being in the $10,000 range.

The cost of these concerts led MRFF's research department to start looking at some of the DoD contracts for other "spiritual fitness" events and programs, and what we found was astounding. One contract, for example, awarded to an outside consulting firm to provide "spiritual fitness" services, was for $3.5 million.

MRFF was already aware that exorbitant amounts of DoD funding were going to the hiring of civilian religious employees by military installations, the expenses of religious (almost exclusively evangelical Christian) programs, and extravagant religious facilities, but the extent of this spending goes far beyond what we had initially thought it amounted to. Therefore, MRFF has decided to launch an investigation into exactly how much the military is spending on promoting religion.

Do the recently announced plans of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates to trim defense spending include any trimming of the military's outrageous spending on the promoting of religion and evangelizing of our troops? This alone could save the DoD untold millions every year, and go a long way towards upholding our Constitution at the same time.

 
 
 
For the past several years, two U.S. Army posts in Virginia, Fort Eustis and Fort Lee, have been putting on a series of what are called Commanding General's Spiritual Fitness Concerts. As I've written...
For the past several years, two U.S. Army posts in Virginia, Fort Eustis and Fort Lee, have been putting on a series of what are called Commanding General's Spiritual Fitness Concerts. As I've written...
 
 
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06:47 PM on 09/12/2010
The fact that the soldiers were marched to the event prior to any release is a clear indicator that command directive was to do so. This is proof enough to acertain the command climate towards the event. That the funds, MWR or O&M, were used to host the events is another clear indication of the command climate.
There can be no excuses for this type of command influence and it clearly needs to stop. The author need not indicate which section of the UCMJ was voilated, that would be difficult for the JAG office to do at this point.
Knowing something like this is wrong only takes a minor understanding of the military and human nature. Something clearly missed by this CG. All too often power is misused as influence and in this case the power was used to influence soldiers against thier will in matters of religion. This is not an option for command to undertake. Misuse of O&M funds is nothing new for CG's, but something that congress is slowly getting a handle on.
I hope those involved are duly punished for their actions, but specifically those at the top, not the NCO's following the commanders guidance.
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03:08 PM on 09/02/2010
I hope everyone who is disturbed by this writes to Secretary Gates and to his/her Congressional Representatives and Senators. These people really do pay attention to the mail and phone calls they get from their constituents.
02:49 PM on 08/29/2010
One of the things this country was founded on was freedom from religous persectution and it seems we are heading in the opposite direction. To me, this is beyond reprehensible.
08:06 AM on 08/26/2010
Chris, thank you for updating us on this story, but I am sure there is more information out there. Have you heard from any others who were present or from military channels such as the Ft. Eustis Public Affairs Office? Based on some of the reader comments, I am considering the possibility the E-4s had privileges not enjoyed by the E-1s or E-2s and the only way for the junior enlisted to attend was to keep the unit on duty until the concert was over. (Otherwise just dismiss them and let them choose.) While on duty, everyone would be subject to the same restrictions--no electronics, no naps, no PX, the same as during the duty day. Bad decision to keep them on duty?, probably yes. Prolesticizing or punishing?, probably no. The post newspaper article did say there was a full house of soldiers and family members at the concert. I am sure the proper authorities are determining if the concert qualified for O&M funds. Please keep us posted.
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Chris Rodda
09:51 AM on 08/26/2010
I always have a lot more information on any story I write for MRFF, and we've checked out everything before I write the story. That's why I'm just now getting out a story about something that happened back in May. We had regular updates from the soldiers as they pursued their EO complaint, and, yes, we have heard from many others who were there. What's in my post is far from everything we know about what happened that night. I know you're still not convinced that being restricted like these soldiers were that night might not have been out of the ordinary, but we know from the soldiers that it was. They normally would have been dismissed for the day at dinner time on a weeknight, and all saw the lock-down and maintenance as a punishment for not attending the concert.
11:15 AM on 08/26/2010
If the Privates had the same on-Post privileges as the E-4s, than I must agree they were unjustly restricted as "punishment for not attending the concert" The E.O. complaint system should bring this incident to the attention of the commanders and serve as a good teaching device for all involved.
07:58 PM on 08/24/2010
I am appalled and don't understand why others are not more so...my taxes should not be used in any way to promote any religion, let alone a particular one, let alone with direct or indirect force...in the military or elsewhere. I am a Christian, but believe that God does not need us to force Him on anyone, and, when we do, we cheapen the whole idea of Him. And how can anyone not see this as a misuse of my coerced tax dollars; as and indirect and inappropriate force against the soldiers who did not want to go? I am most disturbed by those who brush it off, saying that religion and the military are somehow "mixed" - and that it is therefore, somehow, okay. First of all, theologically, how ironic and sad for the Prince of Peace! Second, how much like the "terrorists" that makes us - the more overtly "Christian" our forces appear, the more we escalate into a "religious war." And, third, again, a country that does not understand the separation of church and state is neither free nor anything other than a theocracy. Render unto Caesar if we must, but don't pull God into the bloodshed, and don't force Him on others with my money.
10:53 PM on 08/24/2010
How were your coerced tax dollars involved--it was probably paid with MWR funds? Did you pay significant taxes last year? Most tax returns I prepare pay less than ten percent of the money they earn, and that hardly covers domestic programs. Do you contribute to MWR funds? I do.
Now tell me how a country that does not understand the separation of church and state is neither free nor anything other than a theocracy? Are you speaking of a Shari'a Theocracy or a Pentateuch Theocracy? Those are the only ones I know about. How does this concert where soldiers were given a choice, and those that decided to not attend were given a "time out", create an unbalance in your theological world and make you appalled?
05:38 PM on 08/24/2010
Before you continue reading this comment understand that I have MAJOR problem with American "evangelicals." I'm also a US soldier, and a "Warrior" of God that rarely approves of political involvment in religion.

As, a Christian and a former soldier, I never, have never, will never approve of forcing religion on people especially in the military. I have many words for the "evangelical" community which I will keep silent on for now.

However, just for clarification, the way Barlow Girl is branded here is completely false.

I'm a hard core Rock N Roller who doesn't often fall for the soft pop act, and have difficulties swallowing "Christian" culture. But I have had the pleasure of meeting these girls and there is no way they are anything like the light you shed on them. They are beautiful intellegent peace loving accepting individuals who have struggled through and survived real life problems and are not interested in sugar coating anything. I'd be willing to bet they are going to be very upset to hear about soldiers being forced to "worship."

They are also amazing musicians, and so, with the exception of participating in what is a paid gig, I can tell you right now it was a bald face error in journalistic practices to even include them as part of this.

This is a vulgar display of lacking research skills. As a avid reader of the Post, I am flat out appalled.
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Chris Rodda
06:46 PM on 08/24/2010
What do you mean by "the way Barlow Girl is branded here is completely false?" All that's said about them is that they are a Christian band, quoting how they describe themselves on their own website.

Nobody is blaming BarlowGirl for this. They were just doing their thing and had no idea what was going on with the soldiers who chose not to attend their show. One of them even tweeted that she thought what happened to these soldiers was "horrible." What happened wasn't their fault. They just happened to be the band doing the show that the incident happened at.
07:51 PM on 08/24/2010
This is a vulgar display of lacking reading skills.
03:11 PM on 08/25/2010
'The headliner at this concert was a Christian rock band called BarlowGirl, a band that describes itself as taking "an aggressive, almost warrior-like stance when it comes to spreading the gospel and serving God." '

The placement of this quote (and the one from their father) makes the entire BarlowGirl team appear to share the same "agenda" as Chambers (and the entire installation it seems.) I happen to know this is not the case, but people who don't know may think otherwise.

I myself identify with taking a "warrior-like" stance, yet do not believe in throwing down a hammer to an "uncivilized, heathen world" as some religious right have done. Instead we do it with community, love, and actual service. To people like me, everyone is the same, Christian or not. There are some of us in the Christian community who do this "warring" without violence (and what happened on that military installation, in my opinion, was absolute violence.)

Simply put, I feel this quote from the BarlowGirl web-site was taken out of context because there is a huge "majority" group in this country giving the rest of us a bad name. They were not listed simply as the headliner, they were portrayed as one and the same.

I know for a fact that BarlowGirl does not have the same agenda as Ft. Lee or Chambers or anyone else in the military or anywhere else in this nation where division and arrogance are.
03:25 PM on 08/25/2010
I'm not too sure about that. I read it several times, and even again after your comment to make sure I didn't skip anything.

If anything it's a vulgar display of personal bias, which is just the main tool for the survival of the fittest in the US political landscape.
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04:59 PM on 08/24/2010
"According to a week-long investigation by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, a government watchdog organization, the evidence it has uncovered proves the Pentagon has been engaged in a pattern of widespread evangelizing in violation of Clause 3, Article VI of the Constitution..." Written by Jason Leopold 10/08/07 PENTAGON CAUGHT PROMOTING ILLEGAL CHRISTIAN FUNDAMENTALIST PROSELYTIZING AT MILITARY BASES
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/index.php/archives/541-jason-leopold
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Chris Rodda
06:38 PM on 08/24/2010
Can I ask what your point was in posting this piece about some documents that MRFF uncovered almost three years ago? Is there some connection to this current issue about the Christian concerts that I'm missing?
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10:33 AM on 08/25/2010
Going some years back, there have been multiple accusations by religious freedom groups that the military has been proselytizing our troups the Focus on Family brand of Religion. My post above is just a suggestion that there is more to the story and that this is not an isolated incidence. Thank you for bringing the original post.
03:15 PM on 08/24/2010
The Barlow sisters are nice people, but if I were forced to see them play, i would hide out too. i am not a fan of their stuff in the least.
09:47 AM on 08/24/2010
Would it be possible to give definitions to "contact maintenance" and "barracks maintenance" and what they entailed for those 80 soldiers who chose to return to their barracks that Thursday night? I think it will give us a better idea of the punishment mentioned in your headline. Thanks
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Chris Rodda
11:59 AM on 08/24/2010
I'm just not getting why the precise maintenance that they had to do is any sort of important factor. They had their usual freedom to use phones and computers taken away, their usual freedom to leave the barracks and go elsewhere on post taken away, weren't even allowed to go to their rooms or sit on their beds, and were threatened with the further punishment of having their weekend passes revoked and having to do maintenance over the weekend if they did any of these things that they would normally do. Why on earth does it matter what the specifics of the barracks maintenance were?
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01:39 PM on 08/24/2010
To determine if the "lock down" and subsequent labor were out of the ordinary. The military is not a free for all, you don't work from 8 to 5. It sounds like these trainees were given a choice of attending an event or returning to a normal duty. In other words they got to clean and their buddies got to go to a concert, this upset a couple of E4's probably because they thought they would have the night off. There is and always have been religious under tones in all of the branches of the military. There are many things in the service that you will be required to do that you don't agree with and there are many unofficial ways to make malcontents pay for not towing the line, by that I mean making your NCO's life hard, because if you create waves you will be cleaning the bilge with a tooth brush. This is the military folks not the girl scouts.
05:47 PM on 08/24/2010
Because you used the word "punished" and punishment in the military can cover a wide range of activities such as marching laps, doing push-up or other physical conditioning, extra duty, or extra study hall. Extra study hall would meet all the conditions you describe, no phones, no PX, no naps, etc. Just give us the definitions, what and where in the barracks they "maintenance-ed", and what they actually did for those two hours. I seem to remember a great scene of this sort of extracurricular training activity in "All Quiet on the Western Front"., and I want to compare them. I am just trying to determine how badly they were "punished" and maybe let some others compare that punishment to their experiences. I am sure the General is in deep Kimchi, but I bet he is not in trouble for the "punishment".
05:42 PM on 08/24/2010
It doesn't matter what they were doing, putting them on duty is a communication to them that they are choosing to opt out of the "team." If they are not given passes or to do as they please while everyone else is at a concert enjoying themselves, or at least are provided with an equal non-religious event, the detail assignment is to communicate some sort of message. That's just how it is in the military.
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05:50 PM on 08/30/2010
That is more to the point.
08:55 AM on 08/24/2010
These incidents and fairly rare given the size of the military. There are rules and regs in place to avoid these things. It would be nice if the article had specified what section of the the UCMJ was violated, the specific funding source for the concerts (the bucket it comes from determines how you can spend it and it is very possible that this was a legal use of funds) and in any organiztion there are folks that bend or break the rules. If rules/laws were broken then it should be handled through proper channels. This article is really a bunch of hearsay. BTW, it is perfectly legal for the military to provide for the spiritual needs of its members. Chaplains of many faiths serve and are welcome. It is not policy to force someone to observe any particular faith. If this story has any credibility about the "forcing" and if funds were used inappropriately then it will be dealt with but I have a feeling that things were misreported, misunderstood
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09:49 AM on 08/24/2010
It's one thing to provide "the spiritual needs of its members" and its another to force them to go watch a concert.

But I'm sure you have all the facts because you were there and that the soldiers who reported the incident themselves were just a bunch of liars.
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02:50 PM on 08/24/2010
JROTC? Your joking? Anyway I can't seem to respond to your comment to me so I'll try it here.

I read the entire blog and not only am I calling the soldier in question a malcontent I'm calling him a liar. After 20 years in the Navy and having thousands of lies told to me by very smart and clever sailors I can smell one a thousand miles away. (JROTC..still laughing at that one). Does that help?
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12:53 PM on 08/24/2010
What branch of the military are you in?
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02:57 AM on 08/24/2010
I remember one time in the military there was an anonymous survey given out. Well a few days later there was a list of who didn't do the survey. Hey you sign the paper and take the oath..
11:11 AM on 08/23/2010
I notice three things are missing from this story. First, none of the eye witnesses have responded; second, there is no description of "contact maintenance" and "barracks maintenance"; and third, there is no description of what their normal Thursday evening routine entails. As an Academy graduate, I remember being required to be at my desk studying every weekday night, never lying on my bunk except from lights out until reveille, and having my "barracks" ready for inspection every weekday morning. Since these soldiers are still marching to class and mess hall, I believe they are in initial training. So my guess is "contact maintenance" means study hall and "barracks maintenance" means getting their space ready for inspection, and that they do it every Thursday evening during initial training..

So if "locked down" is the normal routine for a Thursday night, it may seem like punishment, but it is not punishment. (All initial training probably feels like punishment to some of these people.)

If my guess is correct, the story should have been written by an objective reporter as "On May 13, 2010, about two hundred soldiers, stationed at Fort Eustis while attending a training course, were offered the option of attending one of these Christian concerts. The eighty soldiers who did not wish to attend returned to their normal Thursday training routine in their barracks.

Not as interesting a story is it?
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Chris Rodda
04:45 PM on 08/23/2010
These guys are not basic trainees who don't usually have free time at night. The soldier who wrote the first email quoted in my post is an E-4. When I spoke to him, he told me that the students do not normally get back into formation after dinner. Their duty day is over at that point. This is why they immediately started to think that something was up when they were ordered to reform after dinner. The "lock-down," being restricted from using cell phones and computers, etc., were all completely out of the ordinary.
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05:49 PM on 08/23/2010
That would have been helpful in the post. I assumed the after dinner expectations were out of the ordinary, but it was just an assumption.

But anyway, that is irrelevant to the larger problem. No military commander should be involved in any kind of proselytizing to soldiers. That is inexcusable coming from someone whose supposed goal is to protect this country. Using his position of authority to promote this concert constitutes a breach of church/state separation, and he's gone much further than that.
08:44 PM on 08/23/2010
Thank you for your reply. I am still a bit curious as to why an E-4 would be marching to and from training and to the mess hall and face the possibility of having "weekend passes revoked and continue barracks maintenance for the entirety of the weekend". Truthout says "Pvt. Anthony Smith.... .spent six months training at Fort Eustis before moving to Arizona to serve on active duty with the National Guard". Another post writer, Jeremiah D MacRoberts, wrote "Comprehensive Soldier Fitness and its subordinate Master Resiliency Training are a program are designed in conjunction with UPenn. Initial Entry Training soldiers are ALWAYS on lockdown (conditions described are not punishment, just their general living conditions)", whereas you write "The "lock-down," being restricted from using cell phones and computers, etc., were all completely out of the ordinary." Hopefully another soldier who was there will tell us about the training, their normal Thursday routine, and clear up any confusion generated about this "lockdown".
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11:03 PM on 08/22/2010
I want lawsuits and my tax dollars back.
09:47 AM on 08/23/2010
This is a little long, but its not a rant, I actually know what happened here and will attempt to explain:
Comprehensive Soldier Fitness and its subordinate Master Resiliency Training are a program are designed in conjunction with UPenn. What you have here is the intersection of two unrelated things. Initial Entry Training soldiers are ALWAYS on lockdown (conditions described are not punishment, just their general living conditions) and the NCOs (various ranking sergeants who's actions are not Army Policy) are held to extremely high accountability standards. As someone who is Cadre trained (trains IET soldiers) and a Chaplain (familiar with Spiritual Fitness as part of CSF/MRT) I can assure you this was NCOs attempt at managing conflicting orders: 1) keep trainees accounted for and under their training conditions and 2) allow soldiers to participate in an event Spiritual Fitness (CSF/MRT) event. The problem here is NOT the Concert or the CSF Program, it is the unrealistic standard of accountability and lockdown that IET soldiers face every day. The NCOs know this too, they didn't take them to the concert to force Christianity on them, they took them to the concert because they wanted a break from their rigorous overseeing and wanted to give the soldier trainees a break from it as well. I can tell you more about Spiritual Fitness/ CSF and MRT (which is a multi-faith and non-faith approach to soldier support, Spiritual is one of 5 dimensions), but this is long enough already.
11:29 AM on 08/23/2010
This may all be true, but could you clarify how it is you know these details? Are you a member of the military? And, even if this IS all true, clearly many of the soldiers weren't getting that it "wasn't a punishment". And many felt pressured into attending, not "allow[ed]... to participate". And yes, the concert IS a problem if they're only offering extreme Christian fundamentalist bands - and paying them top dollar out of taxpayer funds. I'm appalled, altogether.
01:38 PM on 08/23/2010
I appreciate you telling us "Initial Entry Training soldiers are ALWAYS on lockdown (conditions described are not punishment, just their general living conditions)", so would you agree the story should have read.....

"On May 13, 2010, about 250 soldiers, stationed at Fort Eustis while attending a training course, were offered the option of attending one of these Christian concerts. The eighty soldiers who did not wish to attend returned to their normal Thursday training routine in their barracks"?
10:34 PM on 08/22/2010
Just another day under the sword of Christ. With these dopes in charge is it any wonder why the lies leading up to Iraq?
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09:00 PM on 08/22/2010
[I was surprised to find out that a couple of the most offended soldiers were actually Christian themselves (Catholic). ]

This doesn't surprise me. MANY Catholics and Eastern Orthodox are very offended by Johnny-come-lately evangelicals claiming exclusive use of the word "Christian" with what is actually a very recent, idiosyncratic, and non-traditional theology. And it wouldn't surprise me if the concert was anti-Catholic as hell. MANY fundamentalists are.
06:13 PM on 08/24/2010
I'm a Christian (not sure if i can put much of a label on it besides that, no Baptist, Catholic, EO, what have you here) and I am very offended by this. Nobody should EVER under any circumstances be forced to participate in religious activity. EVER.