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Chris Weigant

Posted: February 18, 2008 08:23 PM

Democratic Electoral Shift In November?


Professional pundits like conventional wisdom. It's comfortable for them to say what "everyone knows" with the voice of authority. But, seeing how often this so-called "wisdom" has been wrong already this year, one can't help but wonder about yet another pillar of political wisdom: that there are only so many "battleground" states in play this year, and that the red/blue electoral map from the last two elections will generally stay the same in November. Because there is a good chance that this may be wrong, too.

Political commentators draw their maps slightly differently, but always on the same premise: that there are a certain number of "safe" Republican states, a certain number of "safe" Democratic states, and only a few "purple" states in the middle, where the fight for the White House will largely take place. States like Florida and Ohio.

But what if, this time around, Democrats picked up some states nobody is even watching in November? I think there's a good chance that no matter who the Democratic candidate is, the possibility exists of turning some very red states blue.

Now, I'm not betting the farm that this is the way it's going to play out, mind you. But I do think the chances this year of radically repainting the electoral map of the United States are higher than they've been since Ronald Reagan's time.

Allow me to explain.

First, some data from the primaries this year. This is percentage of the total primary vote in the following states, by party:

67% Dem. / 33% Rep. -- Virginia

53% Dem. / 47% Rep. -- Tennessee

54% Dem. / 46% Rep. -- South Carolina

52% Dem. / 48% Rep. -- Georgia

49% Dem. / 51% Rep. -- Alabama

70% Dem. / 30% Rep. -- Louisiana

58% Dem. / 42% Rep. -- Arkansas

[Raw data is from CNN's website. Click on each state's name to see vote totals.]

Of seven southern states that have voted (in both parties), the overall turnout is 56% Democratic and 44% Republican. And that ain't just whistlin' Dixie!

The reason this should be considered astonishing is that this is supposed to be a Republican bastion. In fact, GOP voters only had a higher turnout in one state (Alabama) and that by the thinnest of margins.

These votes were all taken when both races were still extremely competitive, it should be noted. Most voted on Super Tuesday, when there were still at least three viable Republican candidates, and two Democrats left in the race. So neither race had already been decided in either party for these votes (with the possible exception of Virginia Republicans, who voted when McCain was clearly the frontrunner).

Now, these numbers aren't going to accurately reflect votes in the general election. More people vote in November than in the primaries in just about every state, for instance. But they do measure a certain amount of enthusiasm for the Democrats which seems to be lacking among Republican voters this year. In deeply red states (Bush won all of these states in both 2000 and 2004).

Part of this is enthusiasm for the candidates in the race on the Democratic side. But part of it also is the enormous turnout of African-Americans across the South. While Hillary won two of these states, Obama won five -- including the two with the biggest margins between the parties, Virginia and Louisiana. These are also mostly Huckabee states on the Republican side. Meaning voters may not be all that enthusiastic about voting for McCain come November.

Could Obama win two or three of these states -- or even more? Could he even sweep a large chunk of the South? Barack Obama would definitely have a better chance of picking up electoral votes here than Hillary Clinton.

But, to be fair, in Clinton's favor is the fact that she could be a big draw in the Mountain West. She has done extremely well among Latino voters, who are becoming a larger and larger force in the national electorate, and who are even stronger in states like Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado. Data for these states is harder to read, for various reasons (caucuses instead of primaries, and some states haven't voted yet). So it's tough to draw any conclusions or even to spot any trends here. But Colorado voted 68% Democratic and 32% Republican in their primary, which is a pretty large margin (better than two-to-one).

So there's ample opportunity for the Democratic nominee to possibly capture some of the Mountain West states this November as well. And Hillary Clinton seems well-positioned to reap a lot of those votes. But Obama has a chance of picking these votes up as well (he won in Colorado, for instance), and perhaps a better chance of doing so than Hillary would have in the South.

But whoever the Democratic nominee is, we may be looking at a radically different electoral map this November. And wouldn't it be nice to see a map that's more blue than red, for a change?

 

My Tuesday Primary Picks

[Because tomorrow's another primary day, we also have a bonus section with primary picks for tomorrow's contests in Wisconsin and Hawai'i]

Well, I have to say I did pretty good with last week's primary picks! For the first time, I got a perfect six for six, calling every race correctly. This has improved my overall score to 62% correct for Democrats, and a whopping 71% right for the Republicans.

For tomorrow, there are so few primaries they didn't even come up with a cute "Something Tuesday" name for it. Both parties vote in Wisconsin, but only Democrats will vote tomorrow in Hawai'i. Which means only three contests to call.

On the Republican side, I'm going to go out on a limb and call the race for John McCain. Although I have been accused of padding my correct picks totals with McCain now that he has a virtual lock on the nomination, he still has not won yet and Huckabee shows no signs of quitting. Until either of those happens, I'll keep predicting these races.

Hawai'i Democrats will overwhelmingly vote for Obama. Something people in states like Virginia or New York don't really understand is that there are a lot of United States which have never seen a "favorite son" of theirs make it to the White House. Barack was born in Hawai'i, and will carry the state both here in the caucuses, and during the general election in November as well.

Wisconsin is going to be close, and Hillary could really use a win here to stop Barack's momentum. Because the voting is likely to be close, neither one of them will pick up an overwhelming lead in delegates here, but a psychological victory for Clinton would do a lot to stop the perception that "she hasn't won anything in a while." Unfortunately for her, I predict Obama will win here, by five points or so. This will make ten victories in a row for Obama, which will help him out in the uphill climb he's going to have for Texas and Ohio next month. So once again, I predict Obama's going to have a pretty good Tuesday night.

Total correct Democratic picks so far: 26 for 42.
Total correct Republican picks so far: 32 for 45.
Total overall correct picks: 58 for 87 -- 67%.

Those are my picks, what are yours?

 

[Previous states' picks:]

[AK] [AL] [AR] [AZ] [CA] [CO] [CT] [DE] [FL (R)] [GA] [IA] [ID (D)] [IL] [KS (D)] [KS (R)] [LA] [MA] [MD] [ME (D)] [MI (R)] [MN] [MO] [MT (R)] [ND] [NE (D)] [NH] [NJ] [NM (D)] [NV] [NY] [OK] [SC (D)] [SC (R)] [TN] [UT] [VA] [WA] [WV (R)] [Washington, D.C.] [Virgin Islands (D)]

 

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12:27 AM on 02/20/2008
WOW - I was really conservative for Wisconsin - who'd have thunk it?

Hawai'i hasn't come in as of this post.

Washington - with 53% in - I'm almost dead on 50-47

R's (I knew I wouldn't do as well here - but the wins are wins, right?)

WI: McCain - wide margin (though tighter than Obama-Clinton)

WA: McCain - wide margin
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
01:03 AM on 02/22/2008
seriously, excellent job on the predictions. kudos!
01:37 AM on 02/19/2008
Whether Democrats are going to win some "new" battleground states shouldn't be what we are focused on. We should be seeing what these new inroads do for lower district offices. Do I think Obama is going to take Idaho this fall if he gets the nomination? No. But if, through his efforts, he might help Idaho pick up a few new state reps and state senators. Same with other traditionally red states. what this hopefully does, is create a strong foundation that Democrats can build on in the years to come.

This is nothing new - Republicans did it in the early 1980s. This is what began the toppling that was 1994. It wasn't an overnight achievement. It was after years of building a party within each state.

I do hope that we see some red states go purple and some purple states go blue this year. But what is happening in this year's election has to be about more than this year if Democrats want to move forward.

That being said, here are my follow-up on predictions:

Democrats

WI:

Obama 53

Clinton 45

Others 2

HI:

Obama 82

Clinton 18

WA: (non-binding primary)

Obama 51

Clinton 47

Others 2

Republicans (I'm not as good with percentages here - so I'll just name winners)

WI:

McCain (by a wide margin)

WA: (half of the state's delegates ride on this)

McCain - narrowly
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Chris Weigant
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02:27 AM on 02/19/2008
Thatcher -

You are right about the down-ballot importance. I give a lot of credit for this to Howard Dean, who ran 2004 with a "50-state strategy" with plenty of resistance within the party when he did so.

I forgot about WA, you're right. These states that have both primaries and caucuses confuse me, I have to admit. We're all going to have fun trying to figure this out when TX votes, I'm sure!

Your percentages sound very close to what I was thinking. You're a little bolder on WI, but you may prove to be correct, and may prove me too timid. I laughed with surprise when I read your HI numbers. I also think it's going to be a blowout, but wow... a 64 point margin! Again, though, you may prove to be closer to the mark. We'll see tomorrow night!

Thanks for writing!

:-)

-CW
12:45 AM on 02/19/2008
I'm not sure there are enough latinos in the west to compensate for the loss of principled progressives should Hillary be nominated.

The DLC'ers seem convinced that Obama speaks for his supporters when he says he'd support her if she wins...

... but his political necessity is not my reality, and I'm far from alone.
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Nutcase
Of, By and For - Elsewhere known as Psycho MD
11:41 AM on 02/19/2008
I fail to understand how one accepts Obama as a progressive, particularly when they reject Hillary as one. The fact is that neither is a progressive. They both admit to having essentially the same voting record. Both are corporate-owned. Both voted to keep the troops in Iraq. Does this describe progressive, or have I missed something?

The biggest problem in this country right now is that the corporations run it. It has an effect on every other problem.

You care about the environment? Who plays the largest role in its decimation?
You care about the economy. The enemy is obvious.
Did your job go overseas? Who sent it there?
Our infrastructure is falling apart. To many greedy people are directing badly needed resources to helping their portfolios.
Poverty. Guess who ignores it.
Healthcare. 24 cents of every dollar goes to the costs and profits of the health insurance industry.

Have I left out any? Likely I have but the cause of any such problems will also trace back to the control of our country by business.

cognito ergo populistae
ProudNeoCon
helping people does not require government
09:46 PM on 02/18/2008
I think you are right. There is a good chance of significant shift in the red/blue states. Democrats are fired up and we (Reps) are not. There is a good chance of many Republicans just staying home.
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Nutcase
Of, By and For - Elsewhere known as Psycho MD
11:56 AM on 02/19/2008
This may turn out to be an historic moment. We may be seeing the first time that a neocon predicted anything correctly.

cognito ergo populistae
09:20 PM on 02/18/2008
I would like those states to sesede once again. And then I would like to take care of them the way that William Tecumseh Sherman did back in the day.
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Nutcase
Of, By and For - Elsewhere known as Psycho MD
11:44 AM on 02/19/2008
You sound like a real caring person with a deep, penetrating analytical perception and love of the American Dream.

cognito ergo populistae
09:02 PM on 02/18/2008
I agree with you Chris, we're going to blow through the battleground states funk this year. The 50 state strategy will keep the Republicans from having an easy target to strike back at. Our old 50%+1 strategy was a loser because it put all our eggs in five baskets. If we run everywhere, they'll be forced to spend money defending everything. And Hillary learned the hard way the cost of ignoring states.
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02:30 AM on 02/19/2008
HowardRoarke -

I think you're right, and I think that if things continue the way they've been going, that whoever the Dem nominee is will have a LOT more money to spend. This means it's easier to force McCain to play defense in states he doesn't want to, and still have plenty of money for a strong offense elsewhere.

Let's hope we're both right!

-CW
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Nutcase
Of, By and For - Elsewhere known as Psycho MD
11:49 AM on 02/19/2008
I haven't seen any figures or discussion of it but I do wonder about the unprecedented amount of money available for this year's presidential race. Have they sucked it dry for all of the down-ticket candidates? It has to have some effect. I just wonder how much.

cognito ergo populistae
08:55 PM on 02/18/2008
Knowledge is regurgitation, not understanding.

Pundits specialize in this. It must be great to repeat yesterday's concensus and get paid for it, year after year.
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02:31 AM on 02/19/2008
HowardRoarke -

Personally, I want Andy Rooney's job. I wonder what kind of paycheck he pulls down for five minutes of snark per week...

-CW
08:29 PM on 02/18/2008
Should Clinton be elected you can kiss these states goodbye as these people have been insulted many times by her campaign and in these states McCain will win easily against her.
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Querent
I just had to say that.
09:57 PM on 02/18/2008
Always good to hear from a psuedo-aristocrat on matters relating to democracy.