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Friday Talking Points -- Class Warfare? Hardly.

Posted: 09/23/11 10:09 PM ET

Well, let's see what this week brought us all, shall we?

A satellite is falling out of the sky, but it probably won't hit anybody. Probably. I personally got over this fear by listening to Creedence Clearwater Revival's "It Came Out Of The Sky" (which I heartily recommend, just on general principles).

A Republican audience booed an American soldier actively serving his country in an overseas war. Well, to be fair to the audience, I'm sure if you asked the ones who booed that they'd respond they were merely booing the soldier's self-professed gayness. But still -- a Republican crowd booed a serving soldier. Way to "support the troops," guys!

Larry Flynt has just offered up to a million bucks for anyone who can prove that they had sex with Rick Perry -- "gay or straight" (either is fine with Flynt). One assumes this offer wouldn't include the Texas governor's wife, since that wouldn't exactly be scandalous. Kidding aside, though, that's a lot of money. And Flynt's record on taking down sexually hypocritical Republicans is well-established (after all, what other pornographer can say he forced a guy about to become Speaker of the House to resign from politics?). Had sex with Rick Perry, anyone? Can you prove it? Call the "hotline" at (323) 951-7911. It could be a lucrative phone call!

Speaking of Republican candidates for president, there was another debate last night. Gary Johnson was actually on the stage. Mitt and Rick said mean things about each other. That about sums that up.

Harry Reid is going to force Congress to do something next week, or the government will (once again) be threatened with a shutdown. This is news not for the shutdown threat (which is becoming so increasingly common it barely qualifies as "news" anymore), but because Congress is in a snit over having to work next week, instead of taking the whole dang week off. This is -- to add some perspective -- less than a month after Congress finished a five-week vacation. Must be nice work (if you can get it), since it involves so very little actual "work."

In other words, it was just another typical week of the follies known as Washington politics.

 

Most Impressive Democrat of the Week

Are you sitting down? Perhaps you should.

We issue this warning because we are about to do something that we don't believe we've ever done before in the four-year history of this column: we are going to hand out a "Most Impressive" award to a Republican. We'll even call it a very neutral Most Impressive Politician Of The Week, so as not to offend anyone.

The winner of the first-ever MIPOTW is Congressman Phil Roe, who hails from Tennessee. Roe, before becoming a professional politician, was a doctor. He was in the Charlotte airport this week, and saw a man collapse in front of him. So he did what any trained person would do -- he immediately administered cardiopulmonary resuscitation. By doing so, he quite likely saved the man's life.

He did not do so alone (there were others trained in CPR present), and he is characteristically modest about his aid (characteristic because real heroes always insist they are not heroes). You can make a case that the guy would be fine even if Roe had turned away from him. But you know what? None of that matters.

This isn't a political award, mind you. It's a humanitarian award. Phil Roe did what he needed to do and was trained to do. If I collapsed in an airport, I would want this guy around -- and I could care less what his political affiliations are. Which is why we're minting a brand-new Most Impressive Politician Of The Week just for him.

Moving along to Democratic awards, we've got to at least give an Honorable Mention to Harry Reid, for refusing to cave in to the Republican House's disaster aid bill. Some congresscritters are hopping mad that Reid may force them to actually work next week, which is all fine and good as far as we're concerned. I mean, seriously, guys, you normally try to link these weeklong vacations to some sort of holiday, but Columbus Day isn't for weeks. What are you calling this particular jaunt back home to raise campaign cash? "End of September Vacation Week"? Sheesh. Harry Reid has shown himself to be a past master at manipulating Congress by holding their sacred vacations hostage, and we try to applaud him every single time he does so. Increasingly, the last days before one of these way-too-frequent vacations is the only time anything gets done on Capitol Hill.

Elizabeth Warren also deserves an Honorable Mention, but we're going to wait to tell you why until the Talking Points portion of the program.

We'd also like to give Larry Flynt an Honorable Mention, just because.

But the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award goes once again to President Barack Obama. This past Monday, Obama unveiled his ideas for both cutting the deficit and for paying for the American Jobs Act. He "went all in" (in poker terms) on a very simple idea: tax the rich. This idea is wildly popular with the American people, and Obama is right to center his campaign around it, because such a bill is not going to pass this Republican House in a million billion years. Meaning it'll be a dandy campaign issue all of next year, with zero chance that the Republicans will recognize the weakness of their position and pull the political rug out from under Obama by passing what he wants.

Republicans are already complaining about Obama's campaigning. They whine he should be above all that as president. To which we respond: cry us a freakin' river.

It's good to see that Obama has finally realized that standing up and fighting is a good political strategy. It's good to see him as "Campaign Obama" once again. Whether it'll do him any good with the rest of the public remains to be seen, but in the past month Obama has visibly rocked the Republicans back on their heels -- so much so that they're mostly playing defense these days. That is a change for the better, and hopefully we'll be seeing a lot more of it in the weeks to come.

For drawing a line in the sand -- complete with a rare Obama veto threat -- and for taking on this issue head-on and full-force, President Obama is our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week.

[Congratulate President Barack Obama on the White House contact page, to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]

 

Most Disappointing Democrat of the Week

This week, we're going to hand out a group award, complete with a call to action. Senator Jeff Merkley won last week's Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award, for coming up with a stunningly good idea -- tell the official congressional "scoring" office (C.B.O.) to look at any deficit-cutting legislation proposed and score it not only on the federal budget, but also on its effect on unemployment and the job market.

To date, only ten Democratic senators have co-signed Merkley's letter. This means that 42 have not. The Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award goes to each and every one of these 42 Democrats who have not yet signed Merkley's letter.

Whatever are they waiting for? Perhaps they need a nudge. If your Democratic senator's signature is not on this letter [PDF download], maybe you should phone them up and ask why.

[You can find contact information for your senators on the Senate's main page, and it only takes a few minutes to call, so why not just go ahead and ring them up?]

 

Friday Talking Points

Volume 182 (9/23/11)

As was entirely predictable, once Obama stood up for taxing the rich folk a wee bit more, the Republicans fired back with what they think is the biggest weapon in their arsenal for battles like this: screaming "Class warfare!" ad nauseam.

OK, I'll stop feeding into their frame-up by using all the military metaphors, how's that for a start? On a personal level, I would be remiss if I didn't notice that this is one more phrase that may soon be added to the things my initials occasionally stand for (joining "Country/Western" and "conventional wisdom" and... um, well, I guess that's about it).

Ahem. Where was I? Oh, right, class warfaring.

President Obama is well on his way to making this the main issue in next year's campaign (although at times, external events intervene in politics -- so who knows what the race will look like one year from now?). So we're going to devote six-sevenths of this week's talking points to refuting the "CW" claim. We'll even provide a bonus seventh "singing" point right here in the introduction, to make it a clean sweep. Because Huffington Post blogger Rick Horowitz has made the whole thing eminently singable, which is pretty downright funny. From his lyrics (he doesn't say, but I'm assuming to the tune of "That's Amore"):

When you look around and figure that the country's up for sale,
And you fret that K Street cronies have their thumbs on ev'ry scale,
While the worst of Wall Street's schemers never spend an hour in jail:
That's class warfare.

When the riches "trickling down" don't seem to make it to the poor,
And you see the hardship all around, but never see a cure,
If you note the gentle fragrance of a hill of horse manure:
That's class warfare.

Heh. Well done, Rick.

With that as an introduction, let's begin.

 

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   I'm a warrior for the middle class

We're going to begin with three excellent examples of how to counter the class warfare argument. The first comes from President Obama himself, from a recent speech he gave in Cincinnati. It is indeed heartening to see the president take on his critics in such a direct fashion, and so far he's been showing other Democrats how to do so. This is just one example.

Now, the Republicans, when I talked about this earlier in the week, they said, well, this is class warfare. You know what, if asking a billionaire to pay their fair share of taxes, to pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare, then you know what, I'm a warrior for the middle class. I'm happy to fight for the middle class. I'm happy to fight for working people. Because the only warfare I've seen is the battle against the middle class over the last 10, 15 years.

 

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   Nobody in this country got rich on his own

Elizabeth Warren is the other Democrat out there showing the rest of them how this sort of thing is done. I wrote earlier this weekabout a video of Warren's brilliant framing of the issue to a small group of voters, and it is one of the best examples of Democrats who know how to do this sort of thing that I've ever seen.

It's been made into a a graphic image, as well. Here is Warren's answer, in full:

I hear all this, you know: "Well, this is class warfare, this is whatever." No. There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did. Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.

 

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   Exempt from the social contract?

Paul Krugman took a hand at countering the class warfare argument, and probably makes the most solid case on the economics of the issue (his whole column is worth reading). But at the end of it, he sums up his argument nicely:

Republicans claim to be deeply worried by budget deficits. Indeed, Mr. [Paul] Ryan has called the deficit an "existential threat" to America. Yet they are insisting that the wealthy -- who presumably have as much of a stake as everyone else in the nation's future -- should not be called upon to play any role in warding off that existential threat.

Well, that amounts to a demand that a small number of very lucky people be exempted from the social contract that applies to everyone else. And that, in case you're wondering, is what real class warfare looks like.

 

4
   Do you even know how to read a poll?

This needs to be hammered upon at every possible opportunity. The ideal lead-in would be arguing with a Republican (on some political chatfest, say) who trots out some version of "the American people really want... X."

"You know, the Republicans keep trying to portray the president's deficit-cutting plan as some sort of 'class warfare' or some sort of radical left political position. Nothing could be further from the truth. Republicans are awfully fond of blathering about what, quote, the American people want, unquote. Luckily for the rest of us, there are public opinion polls which actually answer the question of exactly what the American people want. Have you seen any of these polls on this question? Have you? You can pretty much pick any poll at random, and it will tell you that large majorities are in favor of millionaires paying a tiny fraction more in taxes. Democrats are overwhelmingly for the idea. Independents are wild about the idea. Even a majority of Republican voters think it's a good idea. Poll after poll after poll shows exactly the same thing. The president is calling for something that is about as mainstream as any political idea gets in this country. This is not a radical idea. This isn't even a partisan idea among the public. It is solidly within the majority of the American people's mainstream. This is indeed what 'the American people want' and it's there for anyone who knows how to read a poll to see."

 

5
   Pitchforks and torches? Where?

For a laugh, please see this spoof site, which is selling supplies.

"Do you really think President Obama is calling for 'class warfare'? Really? Warfare? Um, do you mind if I ask if you have one tiny shred of evidence to back up that propagandistic term? One recent instance of a crowd with torches and pitchforks in the United States, demanding redistribution of wealth? One instance of even the most minor class violence taking place, since Obama laid his deficit-cutting plan on the table? I mean, you can call it a 'fight' I suppose, since the wealthy have been fighting against paying their fair share for a few decades now -- and winning that fight, for the most part. I guess seeing that the little guy is fighting back a little bit might be disconcerting to some, but calling it 'warfare' is just laughable. A revolution is not taking place in America. There are no reports of rebellion that I've heard. So please, can you stop with the 'class warfare' nonsense?"

 

6
   Disrespecting the troops [part 1]

Or, you can take a completely different tack, and get as downright indignant as possible. The best way to deliver this would be in a seriously "pistols at dawn" tone of voice. I'd pay good money to see some Democrat (Jim Webb, perhaps?) say the following to a Republican.

"I find it seriously offensive for you to sit there and accuse the President of the United States and his political party of waging any kind of, quote, warfare, unquote. Since you seem to have forgotten that our country has brave men and women fighting in real warfare overseas, allow me to remind you of this fact. Is this how your party 'supports the troops'? We are at war, Sir. We have troops in the field who are dying. For you to make the accusation that their Commander-in-Chief is waging warfare against your political party is downright obscene, Sir. You and your party's continued use of the term 'class warfare' seriously disrespects the brave men and women who are currently serving their country, and if you were a decent human being, you would immediately offer them all an apology. Sir."

 

7
   Disrespecting the troops [part 2]

OK, this one is unrelated, but I simply could not pass it by. Ideally, a Democrat would say this immediately after using the previous talking point.

"While I'm on the subject of Republicans disrespecting the troops, what do you have to say to the fact that none of the Republican candidates for president on stage at a debate said the slightest thing when audience members actually openly booed a soldier who is currently serving overseas? That was a complete disgrace, but what was equally disgraceful was that none of the Republicans on the stage offered the slightest word of support for the soldier, or thanked him for his brave service to his country. Does the Republican Party only 'support' troops who fit in with your party's ideology? You really want some sort of political litmus test for which troops are worth supporting and which aren't? 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is history. It's over. You and your party need to get over it, and the next opportunity you get to speak to a man or woman in this country's uniform, you should go over and profusely thank them and shake their hand -- no matter who that soldier is. And if you see anyone disrespecting that uniform, you need to immediately speak up and speak out against the disgrace of booing a serving soldier at a Republican event."

 

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brainsurgery1
Person of Interest
12:31 PM on 09/26/2011
Great blog. Reading the comments makes one wonder if the readership is comprised of mainly those who make 1 million or more. And few seem to understand thevrelationship between taxes and the quality of life formerly enjoyed by citizens who willingly shared the burdens and benefits of improvements when needed.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
07:54 AM on 09/26/2011
"Republicans claim to be deeply worried by budget deficits. Indeed, Mr. [Paul] Ryan has called the deficit an "existential threat" to America. Yet they are insisting that the wealthy -- who presumably have as much of a stake as everyone else in the nation's future -- should not be called upon to play any role in warding off that existential threat."

Again, a great talking point for Dems if you think misconceptions and lies are good talking points.

Since the wealthiest ALREADY PAY the most money in taxes especially income taxes how can anyone claim they are not already playing a role in warding off the threat.

President Obama is on record as having said don't raise taxes during a recession. He also noted that growing the GDP will do the most to erase the deficit.

Since Income tax revenues went up after all the tax cuts, why would we want to increase taxes which will not increase the GDP and not have a long term positive effect on Federal revenue?
11:16 PM on 09/25/2011
Our household is not wealthy like Warren Buffets, but Obama's proposed tax increase will effect us. A few years ago, I calculated our tax rate at 39% with state and federal income taxes. That figure does not include city, property and sales taxes. Thanks to the president and Mr. Buffet, half the country believes we do not pay our fair share of taxes and is screaming for more. If that is not class warfare, I don't know what is. I don't want to see anyone's taxes go up, including my own. There continues to be wasteful and unnecessary spending by the people in DC, and if Obama would spend a bit of time looking at that, instead of pitting one group against another in his bid for 4 more years, the country would be better off.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
11:36 AM on 09/26/2011
You conveniently omitted how much your household takes in per year. I smell a rat.
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04:43 PM on 09/25/2011
Hmmm... "There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” - Warren Buffet

1) Upper Class... Empowered!
Deregulati­on - Outsourcin­g - Global Economy - Tax Advantages

2) Middle Class... Distracted­!
Terrorism - Abortion - Gay Issues - School Prayer - Immigratio­n

3) Lower Class... Controlled­!
Minimum Wage - Legal System - Government Assistance

"America wasn’t founded as a nation where winner takes all but over the last couple of decades, that’s the way it has turned out. The central vision of “We, the people” has been distorted and manipulate­d by the powerful and privileged doing their damnedest as they wage class war to sustain their way of life at the expense of everybody else." - Michael Winship
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
09:58 AM on 09/26/2011
"America wasn’t founded as a nation where winner takes all"

How much did the rich pay in Federal Income Tax at the founding of the Nation? (snark)

What Federal rules were in place at the founding that the winner did not take all they could? In fact many rules for things like VOTING at the founding relied on things like being a property owner.

The country very much was founded on the Principle that the most industrious and successful would reap the benefits of that success.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
11:38 AM on 09/26/2011
True to a point. When the succesful hold an economic gun to the heads of the rest of the country it's time to put a leash on them and reign them in for the good of the country. The wealthy now hold an economic gun to the head of every American and have not qualms whatsoever about threatening to pull that trigger. Time to take that gun away.
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Mountain Man
04:18 PM on 09/25/2011
1980 Saint Ronald went to war with the middle class....and won...Today we have 98% of the Republicans voting for an agenda that they can't afford. I quess they are all planning on winning the Lottery.
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masreality
Author of "Misconceptions and realities of life"
03:37 PM on 09/25/2011
Contrary to popular perspectives of the term tag, class warfare it is not an ideology. Class warfare is a name tag for a selected group of fortunate individuals sustained by the opposition to hold the country ransom to deter progress.
02:47 PM on 09/25/2011
Brilliant and perfect as always. Thanks,Chris!
01:31 PM on 09/25/2011
Any working class Americans who support these Republicans are fools. The Republicans protect the rich and corporations and could care less about the poor who struggle to get by week to week.
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Remember Remember
the fifth of November...
12:51 PM on 09/25/2011
The problem is that democrats by their very nature believe in compromise and they believe in government.

While it's a noble thing to have and a trait to be admired, these aren't noble times.

The republican hard on for faci$m right now doesn't play by the rules of democracy. they're out of Goebbels playbook and doing everything they can to consolidate power. By lying, cheating, and stealing.

What the left needs is warriors who will go down into the trenches from their ivory towers and fight back against these people. The left is seen as capitulators because that's what we do, we compromise.

What we need are people who have courage behind their convictions. We shouldn't be asking for a 4% increase in taxes on the people who ruined this country, we should be asking for 50% of their illbegoten earnings.

We shouldn't be trying to settle with the banks and wall street, we should be demanding their immediate resignations, breaking up their companies, and taking those responsible off to federal prison for the rest of their lives.

Someone who robs a bank in Boston will get life imprisonment for stealing less than 100,000,000 dollars. What kind of punishment is warranted against those who stole over 2,000,000,000,000 dollars from the country?

We need politicians on the left with moxie, people who'll demand universal coverage for everyone, who'll fight the kleptocracy that's taking hold, and who'll not shy away from the dirty fights.

They want to fight dirty? Bring it on.
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03:46 AM on 10/06/2011
Extremely well said.

A brutal street fight is not the time to read aloud the Queensberry Rules.

Time to toss 'em, jump into the trenches and get our hands DIRTY.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
11:46 AM on 09/25/2011
To bad there is not a big enough mirror in Washington for the Teapublicans to stare into because for the past ten years they have been conducting class warfare on the poor and middle class and have been voting endlessly on those Bush tax cuts to prove it. One thing you can say about the Republican Party is if they have to talk about the issue enough they are most likely of committing it first if they hadn't they would never bring it up..............
09:00 PM on 09/25/2011
What's ironic here is the tea partiers actually support a ideology out to destroy them...wow, that's rich!
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mheinznyc
11:26 AM on 09/25/2011
What everyone seems to be missing is the point that it is our Government that is SPENDING too much of everyone's tax dollar, that is the problem. Everyone's taxes are too high, rich, middle class and poor. It's time to LOWER taxes, not raise them on ANYONE. Get the Federal Government out of the business of running our lives for us.
01:22 PM on 09/25/2011
Hey, Chicken Little, collecting taxes is, in no way, running citizens' lives for them.
09:08 PM on 09/25/2011
Really...roads, bridges, teachers, police, etc - do you really want a country without them???? I hear Somalia is lovely this time of year!
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RacerX
E pluribus unum
01:16 AM on 09/25/2011
“I regard this contest,as one to determine who shall rule this free country—th­e people through their government­al agents, or a few ruthless and domineerin­g men whose wealth makes them peculiarly formidable because they hide behind the breastwork­s of corporate organizati­on.”

Theodore Roosevelt, Republican
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
11:24 PM on 09/24/2011
Class warfare? I feel the time has come. I'm tired of being shaken down for lose change whenever the shareholders of the companies that supply our food, energy and other goods decide they need to squeak out 2% more profit for the year - profit they don't need to live - by raising prices or lowering wages. They've been attacking us consumers like this for years, steadily eroding my ability to afford something as essential as health insurance, for instance, or decent food instead of the cheapest crap, or being forced to buy cheap (made in China) goods because I can't afford anything else because THEY won't get their hands out of my pocket. Class warfare? I'm ready.
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Charles Gray
The Big-O, self proclaimed Underdog!
08:16 AM on 09/25/2011
Class warfare is not a Repulican talking point. it is a Democrat tool that has been around for decades. Divide and conquer! I re-wrote your comment to outline an even more grave concern than corporate profit:
Class warfare? I feel the time has come. I'm tired of being shaken down for lose change whenever the government that supplies our national security and other constitutionally authorized services decides they need to squeak out 20% more revenue for the year - money they don't need - by raising taxes and lowering our standard of living. They've been attacking us taxpayers like this for years, steadily eroding my ability to afford something as essential as health insurance, for instance, or decent food instead of the cheapest crap, or being forced to buy cheap (made in China) goods because I can't afford anything else because THEY won't get their hands out of my pocket. Class warfare? I'm ready.
This is the Citizens vs the Ruling Class. Get ready, it's going to be a wild ride.
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Social Construct
Go left, young man.
09:19 AM on 09/25/2011
Baloney! I'm so freaking tired of seeing that Reagan-esque talking point. Government getting out of business, finance and any other private venture would result in a survival of the fittest lifestyle change that would devastate the middle class in a much more brutal fashion than the US government could ever hope to. Instead of that pesky, over-regulation, intrusive entity of governance, we'd have a winner take all combat; monopoly as the weapon. Adam Smith knew that, the classic liberals knew that. Neo-Libertarians are dreamers of a class that makes a purist, Marxist Socialist look like the most reasonable, rational mind in the room! Just like the radical adherents to Marx, the neo-Libertarians would put us in the express lane to ruin.
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seanny53
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
09:55 AM on 09/25/2011
Divide and conquer? The division is there before the Democrats say a word. Tax increases on the rich are wildly popular. You need to get a clue.

The plutocrats ARE the ruling class and I'm ready for a revolution. Billionaires don't need to exist. We should tax them down to some manageable level of power. Don't like income redistribution? Tough. It's past time for a jubilee year, very old testament don't ya know.

None of this is a Democratic tool. The Democrats are corporate tools, just not as big a tools as Republicans. I'm all in favor of class conflict (it's not war until the shooting starts), but proposing to tax the rich a bit more doesn't qualify.

It's ridiculous to claim that a small increase in the marginal tax rate equals class warfare.
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dennidus1680
11:11 AM on 09/25/2011
It's not class warfare, It's finally fighting back against the class warfare perpetrated on us since the Regan Administration going forward without exception democrat or republican.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
11:16 AM on 09/25/2011
Bingo.
11:09 PM on 09/24/2011
It strikes me that the Republican vision is one in which the only interests to be served and advanced in our politics are those of the comfortable, the fortunate, and the self-seeking. The sad thing is that so many of those who are neglected and left out of this vision will vote Republican in the mistaken belief that eliminating government as a proactive force to promote the national interest is a good thing because, well you know, government is just "bad." The reality is that government will still be there for the comfortable, the fortunate, and the greedy, just not for anybody else. This is not the vision of a healthy democracy.
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Charles Gray
The Big-O, self proclaimed Underdog!
08:25 AM on 09/25/2011
Bad word choice - remove proactive and insert destructive. PS: This is NOT nor has it ever been a democracy. Look in the Dec. of Independence and the Constitution. Neither uses the word democracy or any form of it. That should be a clue.

The people that think government is bad are called anarchists. They want NO government. Conservatives, on the other hand, want LESS government. They want Big-G on a diet. The best way to start that is to get rid of the Big-O. See you in Nov. 2012.
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dennidus1680
11:16 AM on 09/25/2011
What do you think happens when a society lets a small group get the bulk of wealth and income? Third world status.
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
10:12 PM on 09/24/2011
Chris,
I haven't been familiar with your articles in the past. I will be in the future. Good job.