Friday Talking Points [46] -- Moose Poop!
Sarah Palin has already singlehandedly introduced several terms into our political lexicon. "Hockey mom" is probably the most recognizable of these. "Troopergate" will become more and more known in the next few weeks. But today, I would like to personally add to this growing body of terms the Alaskan governor has spawned:
Moose poop.
The Republicans, in their "meet Sarah Palin" video, have helpfully provided the image to go along with this new term:
This image, it should be noted, has not been altered in any way, shape, or form.
So before we begin, let's define our new term:
moose poop (n.) -- (1) Synonym for "bullshit," esp. when used to describe falsehoods coming out of Sarah Palin's mouth, or indeed any Republican in the 2008 election. (2) Genteel term for the scat or feces of alces alces (North American moose). See also: moose shit. Usage: (1) I see Sarah Palin's spouting the same old moose poop. (2) Watch your step, there's some moose poop on the trail here.
As with all compound English words, since it is a new term, it will begin as two words: "moose poop." Later, it may go through a hyphenated period, as it becomes more popular: "moose-poop." Eventually, though, it will be spelled as a single word: "moosepoop."
Now, I gave some serious thought to some other variations, but had to reject them one-by-one until the moose poop stood alone (so to speak). Some of these may later seep into people's usage, when "moose poop" itself has lost its shock value. The first of these is the more vulgar: "moose shit" (which, due to the popularity of "bullshit" "horseshit" and "chickenshit," may even begin life as the compound word "mooseshit"). The problem with mooseshit, though, is that it's hard to say. There are two "S" sounds right next to each other, which don't really come out as strong as it could.
Likewise (and due to the cutesy factor being way too high), toddler-speak variations were rejected: "moose doo" or "moose poo" or even "moose doo-doo" do have the quality of repeated "Ooo" sounds -- which make it so much easier to deliver this term in a Fargo accent, or even a Canadian, Bob-n-Doug-McKenzie accent -- but the lack of a consonant at the end leaves you with a puckered-up mouth and nowhere to go. Don't believe me? Try saying "moose doo-doo" three times fast.
Two terms that suggested themselves will have to be used later, as alternatives for moose poop -- "mooseflop" and "moosepuckey." Both have a snappy sound to them when falling off the tongue, but might be confusing if not properly identified beforehand with something that is more obviously fecal, like moose poop.
The two runners-up both had points in their favor. "Moosecrap" really snaps, and everyone knows exactly what you mean when you say it. And there was an excellent "Ooo" repetition, as well as good alliteration, in "moose manure." Look for both of these to become popular alternatives soon.
But combining both their strengths with none of their weaknesses, I have to say that the best term linguistically is "moose poop." It's cute without being cutesy. It's barnyard without being outright vulgar. And you could so easily picture Sarah Palin saying the words "moose poop."
The quicker this enters our political discourse the better. So practice saying it out loud. Give a good hearty "MOOSE POOP!" to the rest of your office or dorm today. Start throwing the term around with abandon!
(Ahem.)
More on this subject later (and how Democrats can use it in talking points) after we hand out our weekly awards.
Joe Biden almost won the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award this week, for saying the following:
"If there has been a basis upon which you could pursue someone for a criminal violation, they will be pursued -- not out of vengeance, not out of retribution; out of the need to preserve the notion that no one -- no one -- no attorney general, no president, no one is above the law."
But then he walked it back the next day, saying it was Congress who would investigate, not an Obama/Biden White House:
"The Obama/Biden administration is not going to start off saying, 'God, let's go take a lot at what [happened].' The American people want to know what we're going to do, not what happened."
So instead, this week's MIDOTW award goes to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. Because for once, he is actually using his position to further the Democrats' chances of winning this year's election. Next week, he has scheduled a vote on the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which aims to correct an extremely misguided Supreme Court decision on pay equity for women. He did this, in part, to force John McCain to pick a side on the issue. If McCain is now a hockey-mom-loving kind of guy, then surely he's for this bill, right? This will put women's rights squarely on the agenda, which helps show the McCain/Palin ticket's anti-woman stance better than anything else could have done right now.
For painting McCain into a such corner next week, Harry Reid gets the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week award -- the first time he's ever won one! So a hearty "well done" to you, Harry!
[Congratulate Harry Reid on his Senate contact page to let him know you appreciate his efforts.]
OK, I know this is getting repetitive, and also that his eligibility for the award (what is a "Democrat"?) is still open to question, but for his speech at the Republican National Convention, there is simply no other choice this week but Joe Lieberman for the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week award. With special "Zell Miller" clusters, to signify the ultimate betrayal of speaking at a GOP convention.
No more needs be said on this subject. For shame, Joe, for shame. Too bad you had to use your "vice presidential acceptance speech" when you didn't even get picked, huh? Well, all I have to say is: Tough mooseflop, Joe.
[Contact Joe Lieberman on his Senate contact page to let him know what you think of his actions.]
Volume 46 (9/5/08)
Boy, the moose poop has been flying ever since Sarah Palin's entrance on the national stage. Here is the Alaskan State Senate President -- a fellow politician from Wasilla -- on the Palin pick:
"State Senate President Lyda Green said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to give her the news. 'She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president? Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?'"
And here is the Alaskan Speaker of the House:
"State House Speaker John Harris... didn't want to get into the issue of her qualifications. 'She's old enough,' Harris said. 'She's a U.S. citizen.'"
And that's just what her own state's Republicans are saying about her. If you're amused by this sort of thing, Marc Ambinder over at The Atlantic has a huge list of Republican reactions to Palin being on McCain's ticket.
But back to the moose poop at hand (so to speak). While I have spread the moose manure around with a pitchfork here, there are plenty of other ways to utilize the phrase, so please don't hesitate to offer your own "moose-poop-isms" in the comments section.
Bonus points for working in Bullwinkle's name....
ZERO!
The first item in our list today is actually for an even stronger talking point than moose poop. The Republicans had fun during one of their speeches shouting "Zero!" to questions from the stage over what experience Barack Obama has. Question after question about him, the crowd would thunder "ZERO!!" back.
This can be turned to Obama's advantage very easily, and should be used immediately in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
"I listened to the Republicans speak at their convention, and you know what I heard them say about helping middle-class families with their problems? Zero! That's right -- Zero! What did they say about health care? Zero! What did they say about the mortgage crisis? Zero! What did they say about making college more affordable? Zero! What did they say about your needs? Zero! What did they offer your family to help you around the kitchen table? Zero! That's because John McCain doesn't get it. He said zero about the middle-class because that is the sum total of his plan to help the middle class -- Zero! Americans are up Moose Poop Creek without a paddle, and John McCain offers zero -- ZERO! -- new ideas for you. Republicans ignored the middle class at their convention, they have ignored the middle class for the past eight years, and Americans are tired of being ignored. John McCain ignored you when he had a chance to speak to you, and he will ignore you in the White House."
When the moose poop hits the fan
OK, the eagle-eyed among you will notice that I did indeed manage to slip some moose poop in there after all. See how easy it is?
Speaking of moose poop, Barack Obama appeared on Bill O'Reilly's television show The Moose Poop Factor (I admit I may have gotten the show's name wrong, I got that off the internet... ahem). Afterward, O'Reilly had some surprisingly nice things to say about Obama. But now McCain's handlers are trying to keep Sarah Palin as far away from any reporter's microphone as is humanly possible. This one needs to be hit, and hit hard. Over and over again.
"After I appeared on Bill O'Reilly's show, he said the following about me: 'He's a tough guy, Obama. I looked at him eye to eye, he's not a wimp. He's not a wimpy guy.' Now, I don't know anyone who would call O'Reilly a fan of mine, but that's what he said. Now we hear from the McCain campaign that Sarah Palin doesn't want to face any questions from reporters at all. What is she afraid of? She won't even talk to the press, and she's somehow supposed to be ready to step into the office of the president at a moment's notice? She's so scared of saying something wrong that she won't take questions, and yet we're supposed to believe that when the moose poop hits the fan, she's ready to be Commander-in-Chief?"
Same old Bush moosecrap
This one should immediately follow the last one.
"McCain's people tell us to give Sarah a chance, because she's studying real hard on foreign policy issues. Well, most of the people giving her this briefing are from George Bush's team at the White House. How is the McCain/Palin team supposed to represent any change in our foreign policy when they're obviously just going to give you the same old Bush moosecrap on the world stage?"
Shoveling the moose manure on health care
Continuing the middle-class theme, we move on to health insurance. Democrats need to steal a page from the Republican playbook on this one, and use the words "middle class tax increase" as many times as possible, in order to point this out. Don't even bother giving details, leave the press to do the heavy lifting. Just repeat "tax increase" over and over again.
"John McCain says he has a plan for changing health care. His plan is to make you pay more, both to the big insurance companies and in taxes. That's right -- John McCain actually wants to tax the health care benefits you get from your employer. If McCain seems dangerously out-of-touch with the health-care problems average Americans face, it's because he gets his health care from our tax dollars. That's right. John McCain lies about my health care plan and says I'm for 'big government' to run health care, but that's exactly how he gets his own health care. So I challenge John McCain -- get your own health care the way that working Americans do, and the way you want everyone to do under your plan -- or else please stop shoveling the moose manure. McCain wants to TAX your health care benefits. I don't. It's as simple as that."
Republicans are laughing at you
The sneering disdain about "community organizers" was on ugly display for all to see at the Republican convention this week. It's time to turn this around, especially in the Rust Belt states of Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.
"Republicans showed America what they think of my experience as a community organizer at their convention. But I say that their disdain was aimed right at you. Because what I actually did was to help union workers who had lost their jobs due to the steel plant being shut down. That's what a "community organizer" does, Mayor Giuliani. Help steel workers who have lost their jobs. They actually laughed at it more than once during their convention. You know what? They were really laughing at you. The next day, it was announced that unemployment is up to 6.1%. Real funny, huh? And what did John McCain have to say about that? Moosepuckey! That's right -- McCain thinks the Bush years have been wonderful, he's for more NAFTAs, and he has not announced a single way he's going to change things from Bush's economic policies. I am going to Washington to fight for you, and I have told you exactly how. McCain thinks that when steel workers are fired, it's something to laugh about. And that is exactly how he would lead the country -- by continuing the disaster of the Bush years, and laughing at the hard-working Americans devastated by them."
Earmark Queen
This one just writes itself.
"John McCain picked Sarah Palin to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, and presented her as some sort of champion against earmarks. This fantasy of her blazing some sort of anti-earmark trail in the wilderness is complete moose poop. Sarah Palin, as a mayor, hired a Washington lobbyist in order to get millions of dollars in earmarks for her town. And then as Alaska's governor, Palin requested more earmarks per capita than any other state! Sarah Palin is no earmark-slaying crusader, in fact she herself is Queen of the Earmarks. So much for McCain's credibility on the issue."
Sarah Palin, extremist
Sorry to cram all this into one talking point, but it looks like we've run out of room here. If you're hungering for more, check out the additional talking point lists from Art Levine and RJ Eskow at the Huffington Post.
"Sarah Palin is a politician who tried to fire the town librarian for not agreeing to censor books, who indeed tries to fire everyone who doesn't agree with her or her family, who wants to make abortion illegal for rape and incest victims, who thinks that God favors her pipeline plans, who sat through a speech in her church that said God was punishing Jews for not converting to Christianity, and whose husband was a registered member of a party in favor of Alaskan secession whose founder was killed while illegally trying to buy plastic explosives. Do I think Sarah Palin is too extreme for America? Does a moose poop in the woods?"
Chris Weigant blogs at: ChrisWeigant.com
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Cross-posted at: Democratic Underground
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Thanks for the talking points!
I am going to slip all of this into conversation as much as possible.
Regarding Joe Lieberman as your MDDOTW, keep in mind one thing..
Despite having been vilified and demonized and castigated by "fellow" Democrats, the ONLY reason that Democrats have a majority in the Senate is because of Joe Lieberman.
Lieberman has shown tons more loyalty to Democrats than ANY Democrat has shown to Lieberman.
Keep THAT in mind when you want to vilify Joe Lieberman.
A man who puts Country before Party.
Much like Senator Obama himself.
Michale...
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Speaking of visual images, did anyone else find that screen shot of Palin and the moose as funny as I did? Or I am just loopy after two weeks of conventionpalooza?
-CW
I can see where someone who is inclined to look for moose poop would indeed, see moose poop.
To me, it's just a rock. :D
Michale...
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Michale -
Well, I guess we can agree that moose poop is in the eye of the beholder.
heh heh.
-CW
Visual Image Here! Mac and Palin in matching fisherman boots wading through the rising Alaskan moose poop, my friends.
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LAB10 -
My friends, I had to put my hip waders on, because the moose poop is getting deep!
heh heh. I like it!
-CW
I personally loved the Rocky and Bullwinkle show, particularly Mr. Peabody and Sherman and Fractured Fairy Tails. I hate to associate any of these characters with the Repbublicans, Even Obama is a Mr. Know It All. Okay, the Republicans can have Snidely Whiplash.
The group of toddlers, who learned a new bad word. Sounds like a converastion of mentaly underchalenged group enjoying the deragatory words without reason or logic. I know, your comments will sound like a dog bark or even worse - the squeak of a butchered sus scrofa. Go ahead
The group of toddlers, who learned a new bad word. Sounds like a converastion of mentally retarded group enjoying the deragatory words without reason or logic. I know, your comments will sound like a dog bark or even worse - the squeak of a butchered pig. Go ahead.
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7) This library thing, as I have already mentioned, is ridiculous
So, slamming Palin and the GOP for library book banning is a non-starter from the word go, since it's obvious that the Democrats are hip deep in banning and censorship
Which simply goes to prove what I have been saying all along..
There really is no difference between Democrats and Republicans insofar as the actions that they will stoop to to screw over their fellow Americans across the political divide...
Michale...
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7) The library thing is going to have to be fleshed out a bit. I want to hear an interview with the librarian, for instance, to hear exactly what happened. This last one was kind of "lump all the rest of it together" as there were obviously way too many things to say this week, what with the convention and all.
Thanks for the cite there...
-CW
To me, the relevant part is going to be exactly what was requested **by the voters** to be banned? If it was A HISTORICAL COMPILATION OF HUSTLER IMAGES by Larry Flynt, then what's the problem??
Overall, the theme with Palin is that she seems to not like to work with people who don't like to work with her..
While on the surface that may sound snooty and elitist, it's a valid concept.
As a military officer, I have always surrounded myself with subordinates who disagreed with me. It was the best way to insure that viable alternative points of view are put forth.
Such an attitude is a MUST in the military environment (in my not so humble opinion) but I can see where someone in a political leadership role might not avail themselves of it..
Regardless, it's nothing to hang anyone for...
Michale...
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3) Assumes facts not in evidence..
4) Once again, we see the "Democrats Must Campaign Like Republicans To Win" advocacy..
In football, if the coach of one team has to steal plays from the other team to win, what does that say about the playbook of that coach??
5) I don't see that the GOP is laughing at John Q Public. I see the GOP is laughing at the idea that a community organizer has the same executive experience as a city mayor. Or a state governor.
And frankly, such a comparison IS laughable.
6) Dunno much about earmarks and am too lazy at this time to research it. So I'll give ya this one.. :D
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3) Facts? Who said anything about facts? This is politics. She's being taught by the Bush people (and Lieberman) how to read a world map. That's a valid thing to point out to the public.
4) Yeah, but you know what? When one team wins the Super Bowl, nobody cares where the coach got the plays, because they won. Just like in sports, there are winners and losers in this game, and I'd prefer to be on the side of the winners this time.
5) I maintain that you can make this case in front of steelworkers in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Obama should lean on the steel factory closure as much as possible to counteract them laughing at community organizers. Nobody likes being laughed at.
6) To be fair, gobbling up federal earmarks should be named the official sport of Alaska. It's not all that unusual up there. Palin is a product of this environment. BUT she's being presented as something she's not - some sort of earkark fighter -- which is indeed laughable.
-CW
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3) Facts? Who said anything about facts? This is politics. She's being taught by the Bush people (and Lieberman) how to read a world map. That's a valid thing to point out to the public.
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Prove it.. :D
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4) Yeah, but you know what? When one team wins the Super Bowl, nobody cares where the coach got the plays, because they won
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How'de that work out for the Pats??? :D They lost the Super Bowl AND got royally frack'ed for cheating, both in Draft Picks **AND** in the court of public opinion.
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5) I maintain that you can make this case in front of steelworkers in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Obama should lean on the steel factory closure as much as possible to counteract them laughing at community organizers. Nobody likes being laughed at.
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No one is discounting the GOOD that Obama has done.. Well, at least *I* am not..
The point is, it is NOT executive experience, regardless of how much the Democrats try to paint it as such...
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6) To be fair, gobbling up federal earmarks should be named the official sport of Alaska. It's not all that unusual up there. Palin is a product of this environment. BUT she's being presented as something she's not - some sort of earkark fighter -- which is indeed laughable.
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Considering your recent history of Alaska oriented posts, I bow to your superior wisdom.. :D
Michale...
Regarding the issue of taking pages from the Republican playbook..
I got so caught up in the football metaphors (JAGS GOING ALL THE WAY BABY!!!! :D) I forgot to ask one simple question.
What does it say about Democrats if they have to act like Republicans to win elections??
I have asked this question a dozen times and have NEVER gotten an answer..
Michale...
1) I understand that Party Conventions are not designed to "introduce" Candidates to Americans or to push a candidates platform. I believe it has been stated that the Conventions are where the candidates are "introduced" to party and energizing the party base.
MANY political pundits have described the Party Conventions as a "coronation" of nominees.
This being the case, is it really so strange that there wasn't much policy discussed??
2) If ya'all could get passed the partisan bigotry and look at O'Reilly objectively, you would find that he is, more often than not, a very fair person. At least, within the confines of his own beliefs. His interview with Obama simply proves that. As far as not making Palin available immediately for interviews, I mean seriously.
Besides, how long after Obama became a candidate did he "deign" himself to appear on Fox News?? Months?? MANY months??
And ya'all are miffed because the bruised and bleeding Palin and her family are not thrown to the sharks within a couple weeks??
Shirley you jest....
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Michale -
1) Americans had a look at two conventions. One said that the middle class was in trouble, and that they had plans to fix this. The other did not. It's the contrast of the two...
2) I don't watch O'Reilly, but I couldn't resist that "Moose P00p Factor" joke, I admit it. As for McCain's campaign and the media, he is annoying them by cutting off access (even before he picked Palin) and it's starting to show up in the coverage. Which is fine by me, as I have long maintained they have been going awfully light on McCain. How many times have we heard about Keating 5, for instance? Now that McCain's son is involved in a bank failure, maybe they'll deign to bring it up now....
Palin not appearing just reinforces the thought "she's not ready" and Democrats should point that out.
And stop calling me Shirley!
(heh heh.)
-CW
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1) Americans had a look at two conventions. One said that the middle class was in trouble, and that they had plans to fix this. The other did not. It's the contrast of the two...
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Fair enough.. In that context, I see your point and it's dead on ballz accurate..
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Palin not appearing just reinforces the thought "she's not ready" and Democrats, should point that out.
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I don't think it's a case of "she's not ready".. I think it's more of a case of, "You (the media) ain't getting diddley squat until you learn how to behave in a civilized manner!"
Again, I have NO problem with that at all. The Media, egged on by Democrats have been simply horrendous to Palin and her family..
This is simply a well-deserved time out for the Media...
Personally, I think the BIGGER story is the type of arguments coming out of the Democratic Party....
"It's horrendous that a 17 year old is having pre-marital sex!!"
"Palin should stay home and take care of her children!!"
Have I woken up in an Alternate Reality where Dems are Republicans???
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And stop calling me Shirley!
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Knew that one was coming!! :D Kinda loses something when typed, though.. :D
Michale...
HuffPost's Pick
THE DEMS CAN WIN IF THEY CHOOSE TOO
Obama
Make it about personality -- McCain wants to fight Washington, when we need to come together to fix our broken America because of him! Yes him! He, Bush, Cheney, they took the country and broke it. McCain has voted with Bush 90% of the time. If he wants to reform Washington, first let him reform his across the board voting policy with Bush. If he wants to fight, let him fight himself! The American people don't need a fighter, they need a leader to get them out of this mess. Someone who will work with others and not for an ideology that has broken this country. A mess McCain and Bush created!
Biden
I've heard Palin. I've heard her talk. But, she doesn't walk the walk, she just talks the talk. She walks right to the federal government like it's her own private cash machine. Her great little town was doing fine until she took over and mired it in debt. She mired it in debt while still taking special favors from Washington. Palin and her cozy buddy, Ted Stevens have abused a systemt to help Americans. She worked on his 527, they support each other, he has campaigned for her, and she hired the lobby firm that he is now connected to in scandalous behavior. As governor, she supported the bridge to nowhere, the road to nowhere and that's exactly where she and McCain want to take America to Nowhere!
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zedthewizard -
Now that's more like it! Two things leapt out at me from your last paragraph -- "Sarah Palin uses the federal budget as her own personal ATM!" That could get a lot of traction..
And your last sentence I couldn't improve upon one tiny bit. That's a great line.
Is Obama taking my advice?
http://www
"I know the governor of Alaska has been saying she's change, and that's great," Obama said. "She's a skillful politician. But, you know, when you've been taking all these earmarks when it's convenient, and then suddenly you're the champion anti-earmark person, that's not change. Come on! I mean, words mean something, you can't just make stuff up."
Obama fights back!
Woo hoo!
-CW
I suggest Moose Hockey. It combines the horse hockey aspect of tall tales, the "moose" narrative (whatever the hell that is) and her "hockey mom" status. I guess sitting in the stands watching a hockey game somehow qualifies you for the presidency. Perhaps we should amend the constitution to allow Canadians and Swedes to be able to run.
Palin qualified to be President? That's pure unadulterated Moose Hockey.
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DaOne -
OK, now that's a good one! Moose hockey! I like it...
-CW
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To all -
I have a sneaking suspicion there is a naughty language filter blocking some comments here. I guess use "manure" instead, we'll all know what you really mean...
Sigh. Bowdler would be proud...
-CW
CW,
I think the nefarious filter around here is blocking something else entirely - if you know what I mean, and I'm sure that you do...but I'll try again. Besides, what's another deletion among friends.
I've got another 'zero' to add to the list - check it out!
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...very nice post, by the way...
There must be a good story as to why Palin attended six colleges in six years before graduating from the University of Idaho in 1987.
This needs to be investigated.
Being from the land of the Minnesota Wild where endangered wildlife and conservation are apparently more evidence of the true Spirit of American than that of Old John's fantasy inflateable doll Sarah, I think a few other 'poopisms' should become rebuttal lexicon for progressives
1. Moose drool--Evidence of Old Man John's lust for youthful vitality.
2. Neo-con circus poop--the true spirit of the RNC Convention in St. Paul.
3. Klondike Sarah's Poophole--Palin's complicity in contributing to the moose-drool capability of male neo-con operataives.
4.. Moosterbat
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Zingaro_Zorro -
OK, (4) was hilarious, I have to admit!!
I was watching Jeopardy! and thought of a new one after being reminded of Teddy Roosevelt:
the Republicans -- the new Bull Moose Poop Party!
Heh heh.
C'mon, nobody's got one with Bullwinkle? You guys just aren't trying hard enough!!
:-)
-CW
I know I can't top " Moosterbation" and the following aren't even in the same league.
a. Dudley Doo-Doo Right of the Mounties?
b. The Palen Way-Back Machine will take us back to the Nineteenth Century
c. Governor of Moosylvania
d. Watch me pull an election out of my hat
e. McBoris and Patasha
Maybe somebody can help me with these, please
Well......
Hmmm, I wonder if Jocelyn Elders is busy these days?
tm
Boris and Natasha Godonuv, Snidely Whiplash, Duddley Doright, and the folks of Fergus Falls would certainly comprehend that Sarah Palin is ready for international diplomacy based on the reality that Alaska is across the Bering Straight from Canada.
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