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Newt? Really?

Posted: 11/30/11 07:45 PM ET

One can't help but sense that we're all in a bit of a collective "What decade is it?" moment, as Newt Gingrich climbs to the top of the Republican presidential nomination polls. Up until now, the liberal blogosphere and much of the mainstream media have been treating Newt Gingrich's candidacy as either a joke, a book-tour publicity stunt, or (at the very least) an outright impossibility. This week, it seems that everyone is reassessing Newt's chances (while Herman Cain reassesses his own chances). You can almost hear the cry from newsrooms across the land: "Newt? Really?"

To put this another way: it is time to start taking Newt Gingrich seriously, folks. Because he's got a solid chance of denying the Republican nomination from Mitt Romney. For better or worse, the possibility of Newt pulling this feat off is becoming a lot more concrete.

Some still scoff at such a preposterous state of affairs. This scoffing is, for the most part, misguided. It usually takes one of the following forms: (1.) Newt's just "flavor of the month," someone else will rise as he inevitably falls; (2.) Newt's baggage has baggage, and social conservatives won't vote for him; or (3.) Newt will inevitably say something so outrageous that he'll torpedo his own chances -- after all, this is Newt Gingrich we're talking about, right?

None of these scoffings may be correct, however. Scoff number one: this may have been true, say, back in September -- but we are now mere weeks away from the first voting in Iowa. There just isn't a whole lot of time left for Newt to nosedive and another anti-Romney candidate to emerge. There is also not much of anyone left on the bench who hasn't already been rejected by the Republican electorate. Perry, Bachmann, and Cain have all been measured and found wanting. Santorum is a possibility, but time is fast running out and he hasn't budged yet. Huntsman was never a possibility, because conservative voters were never going to flock to him. Who does that leave? Ron Paul? This is actually still a possibility (Paul could even sweep Iowa), but a long shot, at best. There simply aren't any good choices left for the anti-Romney voters out there -- who are, by the way, legion.

Scoff number two is Newt's supposed baggage. Here is where a lot of liberals miss a very important point. Sure, Newt's been married three times. Sure, he's left wives one and two by cheating on them. But, in every case, Newt "did the right thing" by his mistress (after divorcing the previous wife) and married them. Even more in Newt's favor is he has explained his colorful sexual past with exactly the right message that conservatives want to hear: he sinned in the past, he "got religion," and he has asked forgiveness for his sins. This is the perfect tone for Newt to take, especially in the evangelical South. A lot more social conservatives will be able to vote for Newt than most people think, in other words. Now, the flip side to the coin of Newt's baggage (not to mix metaphors) is Newt's policy positions which have occasionally strayed from what passes for Republican orthodoxy today. These may be a lot more problematic for Newt than his three wives, in the end. But only if his opponents start using them to attack Newt. So far, Romney has mostly stayed above the GOP ad-war fray, preferring to ignore all his Republican opponents in order to focus on Obama. But if Newt stays the true frontrunner (polling above Romney), then Mitt may have no choice but to go after Newt. And Rick Perry's still got a lot of money for ads -- which will be spent to attack Newt, and not Mitt. So Newt's baggage could eventually catch up with him, but not in the way most people expect.

The final item in our scoff index is the fact that Newt's brain seems, at times, not to be connected with his mouth. This is indeed true. He does come up with some whoppers, doesn't he? But compared to the other candidates' whoppers -- even in the past month or two alone -- Newt's gaffes may look a lot more intelligent than forgetting that 18-year-olds can vote (to pick just one recent example). Plus, there's no guarantee Newt will say anything wacky enough to outright disqualify him in the next two months. Sure, Newt does spout some Grade-A Prime nonsense at times, but there's no guarantee he'll reliably do so before Super Tuesday, just to pick a random date.

It's easy to see a path to victory for Newt in the primaries, as well. Newt wins Iowa, then Mitt wins New Hampshire. Newt wins South Carolina, and Mitt wins Nevada. This sets up Florida -- which is comparatively a much larger prize than any of the first four. If Newt wins Florida, he'll have Florida, Iowa, and South Carolina under his belt heading into Super Tuesday. Mitt will only have the sparsely-populated (by comparison) New Hampshire and Nevada. A big win for Newt on Super Tuesday, and he's all but wrapped up the nomination.

See? That wasn't as impossible as anyone thought, say, last month. In other words, the unthinkable (to the inside-the-Beltway pundit class) is now becoming quite thinkable indeed.

Newt. Really.

 

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One can't help but sense that we're all in a bit of a collective "What decade is it?" moment, as Newt Gingrich climbs to the top of the Republican presidential nomination polls. Up until now, the lib...
One can't help but sense that we're all in a bit of a collective "What decade is it?" moment, as Newt Gingrich climbs to the top of the Republican presidential nomination polls. Up until now, the lib...
 
 
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Mildmannered
"Be excellent to each other"
09:01 PM on 12/02/2011
Does Newt have any endorsements?
01:10 PM on 12/02/2011
The pup's scoff--Newt will say something even more outrageous than putting kids to work and the relentless gop attack on each other will escalate as if they were going after Dems. The desperate search for their candidate may be Newt after all because of the religion factor, but I still see Romney as their only hope.
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Joe Goforth
05:00 PM on 12/01/2011
For those of you who think that we have an unlimited credit card and international good will here is a Chinese news broadcast where a military spokesperson says that China would not hesitate to protect Iran from American attacks even if it were to cause WWIII. Russian war ships are eyeball to eyeball in Syria with American war ships. China imports a huge amount of oil from Iran and we are directly threatening their interests by threatening Iran. If ever we needed to show some humility and change our foreign policy we need Ron Paul to do it for us now.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/covert-op-suspected-as-second-iranian-nuke-site-goes-up-in-flames_12012011
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
12:25 PM on 12/01/2011
"A big win for Newt on Super Tuesday, and he's all but wrapped up the nomination."
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I'm not so sure that's completely true and it may be a bit of an overstatement considering the states that come later in the primary season. But that scenario should give Mitt plenty to be concerned about.
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Chris Weigant
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03:24 PM on 12/01/2011
I78lancer -

Yeah, my whole primary wrapup there was actually a massive oversimplification. I wondered if anyone would call me on it, but I'm trying to write shorter articles, so that's my excuse.

In this mix is the most interesting factoid about the race this year: the GOP took a look at the Dems in 2008 and decided "a longer primary race actually helped Obama, so we should encourage that sort of thing in 2012." As a result, the RNC laid down the rules that for the first couple of months (including Super Tuesday, I believe), all the states would distribute their delegates proportionally, instead of the traditional (for Republicans) winner-take-all. This will serve to prolong the race if it is even close, or if there are three strong candidates. Eventually, after a certain date, the later primary states will be winner-take-all, and the race will end (that's the plan, anyway), to avoid dragging it out to June (as with Hillary/Obama).

McCain essentially had the race wrapped up in around mid-Feb. That may not happen this time around on the GOP side. This could get interesting...

-CW
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
04:47 AM on 12/02/2011
LOL! I guess I can't assume you guys don't read our comments (a bit embarrased.) I follow your clarification and tend to agree. However, because of the cast of characters, the volitilty of the campaign and the contentiousness within the GOP - amongst the traditional conservatives and between the traditionals and the TPM, I think this will be dragged into the convention. None of the current cantidates appear to be willing to get behind any of their competitors for the general election. So a lot of soul searching and assuaging will have to be done on the convention floor. The RNC seriously miscalculated on numerous fronts but the biggest was the lack of understanding of the composition and emotions of their own constituents and cantidates.

IMO.

Thanks for your response!

L78lancer
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Bart DePalma
Bart DePalma
09:26 AM on 12/01/2011
This may be the first television debate primary and those who have watched the debates know that Newt has dominated them with a command of all the issues and substantive answers when allowed the time to provide them.

Sarah Palin to her credit saw this early on before the attacks on Cain gave Gingrich his opening. In the polls asking the question, Gingrich was the second choice of many voters who became the first when the others faltered.

Gingrich is also the only candidate on either side who can offer a resume of very successful federal governance. Between Obama and Gingrich, Newt is the only one to reform entitlements and balance a budget as the economy boomed. This will be rather attractive to Indis and conservative Dems who remember the 90s rather fondly compared to the past decade.

As Romney has learned, take Gingrich lightly at your own risk.
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Noah Cross
Flying to London for some bangers and mash
12:26 PM on 12/01/2011
Gingrich "can offer a resume of very successful federal governance"?

Wow. Not the big history student I see.
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Chris Weigant
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03:19 PM on 12/01/2011
Bart DePalma -

I agree about the "television debate primary" thing. One odd factor nobody's mentioned much, though, is that out of all the myriad debates that have happened so far, only two-thirds of one was shown on broadcast TV. One hour out of 1.5 hours on one network. Everything else has been on cable.

I'm not sure this means anything, but like I said, I don't think anyone else has pointed it out -- cable's viewership is so tiny compared to the broadcast networks, I just wonder how many "undecided" people are even paying attention -- I guess that's what I'm trying to say.

You also raise a good point about Newt holding a solid second place for a very long time at the beginning of this race. His numbers eventually dipped, before their recent rise, but for a long time he was solidly #2. At the time, I thought it was just name recognition, but now I'm not so sure. Something to think about, that's for sure, and a good point.

-CW
09:15 AM on 12/01/2011
Correction: Nevada will vote after Florida this year.

http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-republican-primary-schedule/
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Chris Weigant
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03:14 PM on 12/01/2011
Emmett Booth -

Whoops! I knew Florida had moved around, but didn't notice they had jumped the gun on NV. That paints an even more-daunting picture for Romney...

Anyway, mea culpa. Thanks for pointing it out.

-CW
08:44 PM on 12/01/2011
Ain't nobody could keep up with all the primary leapfroggin' this cycle! Complete cacophony.

Romney should be helped out by the calendar between Florida and Super Tuesday, but given that his whole campaign has been geared around inevitability, one slip behind Gingrich in the delegate totals could bring the jackals down from the hills. And not without reason! If Romney wants to take on primary-battle-scarred Obama, he'll need to be able to take the heat...and that wince-inducing Baier interview of his certainly won't help the case.
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Djay0252
American First, Second, and ALWAYS
08:31 AM on 12/01/2011
The Newt is just another notorius Republican telling the people everything they want to hear but doing nothing at all...unless you are part of the 1%. Thsi country will fall to new lows.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
08:14 AM on 12/01/2011
One more thing Chris, In the latest head to head poll Newt beats Obama but within margin of error (Rassmussen Poll)

We all know how early the polls are, and how little they really mean at this time especially since the brutal part of the campaign is just heating up etc but since Chris is a great analyzer of Obama Polls I thought I would put that out here.
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kamachanda
Mr. President, Tear this Wall Street down!
08:31 AM on 12/01/2011
The one thing less meaningful than early polls are Rassmussen Polls.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
09:46 AM on 12/01/2011
Well I agree with you on early polls which is why I wrote "We all know how early the polls are, and how little they really mean at this time"

But why do you doubt Rassmussen? Do you have data that they are less reliable then other major polls like gallup ? at 3 months out how accurate were their polls in predicting the last elections ? What about 1 month out or right before the election?

If you are going to knock Rassmussen as opposed to other polls do you have sources or data to back up your assertions?
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
08:03 AM on 12/01/2011
Over on the Conservative Message boards Newt is gaining traction.

Awhile ago i had conversations with others and we all said we liked Newt, he was brilliant, we would love to see him debate Obama on the issues etc but we could not vote for him because of the adultery and baggage.

Then I was watching Debate after Debate and thinking, I really like Newt. So I turn to my wife of 24 years, and said I know he is an adulterer and all that in the past but would it be ok if I voted for him as long as I dont do what he did. And she said she was actually thinking I should vote for him. (She is not a US citizen and can't vote here)

As to ads attacking Newt, One was released yesterday (probably right before this was published but after it was written) by Ron Paul savaging Newt for the Globull warming stuff with pelosi and some other flips.

Conservatives in general will never flock to Paul in numbers because of his foreign policy (or lack there of), failure to accomplish anything in 30+ years in congress and his annoying fan base among other things.
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Martha Fair
09:52 AM on 12/01/2011
Conservative in general will never flock to Paul in numbers because he makes sense and most don't
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Chris Weigant
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03:06 PM on 12/01/2011
tinsldr2 -

You are right -- I hadn't seen the Paul ad when I wrote this. Right after I posted it, I read a story about it and watched it. Flip! Flop!

Heh.

OK, I have to ask because I know you'll give me an honest answer: do you buy Newt's explanations about his shifting position on Libya earlier this year? The only consistency in his position was: "If Obama's doing it, it's wrong." Within days, he had said he would go in to Libya, and then not go in to Libya. As a military man, does that bother you at all in a C-in-C?

Just wondering.

New polls are out today, Newt's way up (Cain is way down).

-CW
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
08:13 AM on 12/02/2011
It would bother me if he said it AS C-in-C!

My position on Libya was we should have acted with Congressional approval and if none was forth coming after the Pres asked for it then he shouldn't have acted. (although I think eventually it needed doing). Of course the problem is going to be who is in charge there when the dust settles?

I was not really following Newt back then as close. But what do you expect? he attacked the President he was running against with small quips in interviews. i seem to recall Obama made an entire Campaign of running against Bush.

It was not like he was laying out detailed thoughtful positions after studying the facts.

Obama stated Qadaffi must go before Newt gave the fist interview saying we should implement a no Fly Zone. Then Obama dithered while civilians and rebels were slaughtered from the Air. If the Policy was to remove Qaddafi Newt said we need a no fly zone but it should be US led and we dont need others permission.

Then weeks later Obama let the Europeans take the lead and followed them without Congressional approval. Newt gave a badly worded statement that the Pres was wrong for intervening.

I guess it bugs me a bit but not nearly as much as Obama's overall foreign policy bugs me.
08:02 AM on 12/01/2011
Looking ahead to the general election... do the powers that be in the GOP realize that having Gingrich as the nominee equates to a landslide for Obama? Surely Karl Rove must know this and it'll be interesting to see if Rove attempts to help or hinder The Newtster.
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06:00 AM on 12/01/2011
We don't care who Bill Clinton slept with and don't care who Newt Gingrich slept with 20 years ago.....
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RichTBikkies
Trainee Basil Fawlty; practising Victor Meldrew
06:20 AM on 12/01/2011
Who is "We"? You and who else? Or was that the Royal We?
06:55 AM on 12/01/2011
But do we care that Newt pushed the impeachment of Clinton while he himself was having an affair.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
08:11 AM on 12/01/2011
No, we really dont.... If there was any chance that you would vote against Obama then you probably are not saying:

,,, "I would Vote for Newt in the General election over Obama if only he hadn't had an affair while attacking Bill Clinton for having an affair, I mean Newt eventually married the girl, and did not perjure himself in court which is what he really attacked Clinton for, but it is enough reason for me to side with Obama"....

You might pick someone else in a Primary because of that affair, yes I agree with that, but if he wins the Primary you will either vote for him over Obama or you were an Obama supporter all along.

Nothing wrong with being an Obama supporter if you like the things he is doing, but dont try and claim Newts affair 15 years ago is why you are voting Obama!
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
03:58 AM on 12/01/2011
Newt rising in the polls is similar to the sewer backing up. It'll get fixed. Quickly.
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
03:03 AM on 12/01/2011
King Newt (Cnute) would set his throne on the seaside and roll back the tide of history. (He's a 'historian' ya know)
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noaxe397
02:36 AM on 12/01/2011
Does Newt's rise in the polls suggest a racist element coming to the fore in the GOP?......As Cain slides, Gingrich picks up steam.............The Cain voter could turn to Perry or Santorum or Bachman, all staunch conservatives who have been faithful to their mates...............But, as the Cain sexual harassment scandal continues to grow, these Republicans turn to the one candidate with marital scandals of his own: Gingrich..................As blogger Kelli Goff wrote here last week, the older one is the less tolerant they are about inter racial affairs (and all the known women involved with Cain are white, except for the latest person, but as she herself states her relationship was consensual.)............Goff contends Cain is losing support not because he talks crazy but because he is race mixing and the senior citizen skewed GOP voter will not tolerate that..................So where does this voter turn? To the white guy with a past history of marital infidelites...............Is this the usual GOP racism coming to the front?............................BTW, in the 2008 GOP primaries, of the 4 front runners, only Romney did not marry his mistress (McCain, Thompson and Guliani all did.)
01:50 AM on 12/01/2011
Never mind about the decade,what century seems more appropriate.