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Which Three Democratic Senators?

Posted: 08/01/11 09:15 PM ET

The House and Senate are getting ready to vote on the deal struck to avoid America defaulting on her debts. Nobody knows exactly the magnitude of what is being cut in detail yet, and the news media seem more interested in the eternal "who's up/who's down" horserace nonsense than in informing the public what exactly has been agreed to in this deal. This should come as no surprise, since it is (as always) ever so much more fun for "journalists" to blather on about "what it all means" seen through the political lens, instead of "what it all means" in terms of... well, what it actually is going to mean for America. Perhaps in a few days, when they get bored with the political aspects, we'll finally find out exactly what the cuts are going to cover.

One thing is for certain, though, and that is there will be a newly-formed joint congressional committee which is going to have a lot of power over the second stage of this grand debate. Currently, the progressive media seems most obsessed with pushing their own cutesy-poo names for this committee (I, for one, refuse to use the term "Super Congress" -- since it is not, on many levels -- only the worst of the snappy and "oh-so-clever" names I've heard bandied about). Progressives should wake up and realize that, rather than winning the "media branding battle," they should instead start paying close attention to who exactly is going to sit on this committee. Because that is going to determine the outcome of this fight -- no matter what the committee is called by the inside-the-Beltway types.

There will be 12 members on the new joint budget committee. The membership will be broken down by house of Congress (six each), and by political party (also six each). Which means that, on the Democratic side, Nancy Pelosi will be naming three committee members and Harry Reid will be naming three.

These choices are going to be crucial for whatever the committee does (or fails to do). Because Congress has apparently learned the lesson of the Bowles-Simpson commission, where no plan managed to get approval from the required minimum number of voting members. So they've lowered the bar considerably, this time around. In the new congressional joint committee, any plan will only require 7 votes out of 12 in order to move to Congress at large. Which means if one Democrat votes for a Republican plan, then that will be the committee's official plan. Any plan which gets seven votes will then move to the floor of both the House and Senate for "up or down" votes -- with no amendments possible. That's a lot of responsibility. Which makes the committee members' choice essential.

For instance, just imagine what Joe Lieberman could be convinced to vote for, should he be named to the committee by Harry Reid. Thankfully, while this was the best "bad example" I could think of, it is not likely to happen. But there are plenty of Democratic senators who would be equally as chilling to see on the joint committee as the now-Independent Lieberman. Remember, each party in each house only gets to name three people -- and if only one Democrat jumps ship, then the rest of them become largely irrelevant to the process.

Neither Pelosi nor Reid will themselves sit on the committee -- that's about the only sure bet. Tradition (and politics) pretty much preclude either leader from such committee work. Everything else, however, is up in the air -- especially in the Senate.

Nancy Pelosi will likely name three Democrats from what has been aptly called the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." It is more than likely that the three House Democrats on the committee will fight to uphold core Democratic principles during the debate. But while the House of Representatives runs mostly on a top-down system (where the leadership is free to choose whomever they wish for such special assignments), the Senate is mostly all about seniority.

Reid could begin by naming one (or even both) of his top lieutenants to sit on the joint committee -- Dick Durbin of Illinois, or Chuck Schumer of New York. Either one would be a strong Democratic voice on the committee. If the committee were larger, both might even appear on it, but since Reid's only got three choices, it's likely that only one of them will be named. Of course, neither one of them may get Reid's nod in the end, but either one of them would likely be seen as widely acceptable within the Democratic Party ranks.

Reid could also go with the senior members of the Senate committees which deal with the budget and the economy. There are four of these major committees -- two Senate committees, and two joint committees with the House.

From the Senate Budget Committee Reid could select Chairman Kent Conrad of North Dakota. Conrad has already announced he is retiring from the Senate next year, and so will not be distracted by the campaign issues others might have. But Conrad is pretty conservative for a Democrat, and was in fact instrumental in helping kill the "public option" in the health care reform debate. Conrad was then threatened with a primary challenge by the AFL-CIO, which may have been instrumental in his decision to step down. Choosing Conrad would be the equivalent of Harry Reid waving a big "we surrender" flag to the Republicans, from the very start of the committee's formation, in other words. Conrad, literally, would have nothing to lose by signing on to a Republican plan, if he becomes a member of the committee.

From the Senate Appropriations Committee, Reid could also select Chairman Daniel Inouye of Hawai'i. Inouye has been in Congress since Hawaii first became a state in 1959, and who plans on running for a record tenth term in the Senate in 2016, when he will be 92 years old.

From the Joint Economic Committee Reid could pick Chairman Bob Casey from Pennsylvania, who might not be all that bad a choice, in terms of standing up for Democratic principles. Casey doesn't vote straight party-line (he's pro-life, for instance), but he is a pretty strong candidate, in terms of defending things Democrats hold dear. He is up for re-election next year, though.

The ranking Democrat on the Joint Committee on Taxation would be an unmitigated disaster, because his name happens to be Max Baucus, of Montana. Not only is Baucus as conservative (if not more so) as Conrad, he's also an expert at wasting time. Baucus was the one who, during the health care reform debate, had a group of doctors arrested and hauled away because they had the temerity to protest that Baucus refused to include any supporters of the single-payer option, in the first committee hearing on health care reform. Baucus then spent an entire summer doing precisely nothing with his committee, in the midst of a ticking-clock atmosphere -- which should automatically disqualify him from being named to a joint committee which has to come up with a fully-fledged plan by Thanksgiving.

There are other choices from these four committees of Democratic Senators with enough clout and seniority to sit on the new joint budget committee. Patty Murray of Washington, Ron Wyden of Oregon, or even Patrick Leahy from Vermont would all likely be strongly supported by the Democratic rank and file. Wyden, in particular, has crafted a few creative deals in the past with Republicans (although none of them actually passed, to the best of my knowledge).

Of course, Reid is technically free to select anyone he wants for the new joint committee. He could delight the progressives by naming Bernie Sanders, Al Franken, and Sherrod Brown to the committee, for instance. However, I wouldn't exactly advise progressives to hold their breath waiting for Reid's announcement of this particular trio.

I have no idea when the committee membership will be announced. It could come quite early, or it could wait until Congress returns from the four-week paid vacation they are about to take. But, as we've all seen, the stakes are high. The committee will have the same exact sweeping powers which Congress as a whole already possesses -- the ability to decide matters of taxation and federal spending. The entire exercise is nothing more than a gigantic avoidance of responsibility by Congress at large. It is all-but-guaranteed to produce lots of fun television right before the holiday season dawns, this November. Lots of high drama will, no doubt, ensue. Tune in to see the show!

But beyond the fatuous nature of the new process, handing the responsibility of Congress as a whole over to six Democrats and six Republicans is serious business. While Democrats will likely have a reasonably high degree of trust for the members named to the joint committee by Nancy Pelosi, those named by Harry Reid could be more questionable. A lot more questionable, in fact. So it might behoove the liberal and progressive groups right about now to start lobbying Reid's office as hard as they know how, in order to get candidates named to the new joint budget committee who can be relied upon to protect Democratic core interests and support the core Democratic agenda in the negotiations to come.

The only silver lining for Democrats anxiously awaiting the committee's new roster is the fact that Republicans are going through exactly the same process -- because they're terrified that a reasonable Republican senator will be named to the committee who might just go along with the Democrats. It's only going to take one vote to cross the aisle in order for either party to take command of whatever plan emerges, remember. Meaning the committee's membership is going to be absolutely crucial, in the end.

 

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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
04:10 PM on 08/08/2011
Reid and Pelosi shoud select the Republicans and McConnell and Boehner should pick the Democrats. That's the only chance I see to avoid a deadlock.
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HowdyDoody
Freud Woman
11:40 AM on 08/08/2011
Maybe it would help to first drum Harry Reid out of the leader's position. Then we might get someone like Sherrod Brown on the committee.
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adam32492
08:42 PM on 08/03/2011
I'd like to see a strong progressive like Peter DeFazio named by Nancy Pelosi. I do think in the end, no consensus will emerge from the Super Congress which means the Congress will have to choose
between cutting the military or raising revenues for they can't find enough cuts in entitlements if beneficiaries are off the table.
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NavyRetiredInTexas
MNCM (Ret)
09:31 AM on 08/03/2011
"Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." meaning "Uber left-wing radicals"
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kurtvb
Knowledge is Power
08:15 AM on 08/03/2011
It seems to me that this committee system established by the debt increase legislation will end up being a taxation without representation issue. There is a good possibility that none of my representatives to Congress (both Democratic and RIPublican) will be on it. Yet my representatives only egt a yeah or nay vote on whatever proposal is made. Congress essentially become a rubber stamp of a more elite establishment within government. Since we will not know what they debated and who spoke to/lobbied this commission, we do not know who has applied pressure and influence on their deliberations.

Also, it is possible that the Boehner will appoint TP members as they have the most influence in his caucus. This will result in a failure to get any bill sent to Congress and subsequently initiate automatic cuts to the budget without any new revenue ( which is the whole problem with the budget). These automatic cuts are again illegal as Congress has abrogated their responsibility to the American people.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
10:17 AM on 08/03/2011
"will end up being a taxation without representa­tion issue."

Your representatives voted to create this so you had representation. If yer particular reps voted against it , it still was yer voice being heard because that is the way a Republic works.

Further like you acknowledge they still get to vote on any final legislation and the "automatics" if a bill does not pass do not include tax hikes.
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Celebrindan
M=1∞/R=dM>1
01:17 PM on 08/02/2011
If we're only going to be represented by 12, then that's all we should pay for.

No Pay for 523, when 12 is the only number that Counts!
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
01:04 PM on 08/02/2011
Either one of New Jersey's two Democrats (older than dirt Frank Lautenberg or Hispano-American Bob Menendez) would be a valued member.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
03:47 PM on 08/02/2011
Didn't they both vote against the Deal that creates the committee you think they should serve on?

Just askin....
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gevan
the pilgrim has landed
04:43 PM on 08/02/2011
I should hope so. Maybe they can do something for those who have less influence in defending themselves against the GOTP onslaught.
11:13 AM on 08/02/2011
Almost forgot. John Kerry could be an interesting pick on the Dem side....

Sadly, the man who would have been ideal for the job is presently sitting in the Office of the Vice President, doing very, very little.
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LizM
My micro-bio is too long for this space.
11:52 AM on 08/02/2011
Would you care to share your thoughts as to why Biden would be ideal for the job, aside from your false assertion that he is currently "doing very, very little"?

As for Kerry ... he is currently busy doing quite a lot around the wind down of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. If you're not aware of this, please check out any number of SFRC hearings on the subjects.
05:49 PM on 08/02/2011
Liz. That wasn't an attack. Just my observation.

I think Biden would be an ideal choice because after nearly 30 very accomplished years in the Senate, he has the ability navigate the labyrinth and get deals done. More importantly, I think he has the guts and fortitude to go man to man with Mitch McConnell and win. I can't say that about Harry Reid, and I doubt that I will be able to say it about anyone Mr. Reid appoints.

And I know Sen. Kerry is busy. I'm just saying that he'd be high on my list of possible options.
11:11 AM on 08/02/2011
I predict the Republican House lineup will basically be the same as Simpson Bowles delegation: Ryan, Camp and Henserling.

The Senate side might be a bit more interesting...I'm thinking Coburn, Alexander and Rubio (a nod to the Tea Party).
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wayne the pain
10:56 AM on 08/02/2011
You can bet Bernie Sanders won't be one. If Obama is true to form he will pick the most conserative senators he can think of that call themselves Democrats! Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles as co chairs of the "Debt Commission" is a good example of his right wing leaning. There won't be a liberal senator in miles of that meeting room. The Republican President Obama will see to that!
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MsLizabeth
Flaming liberal, burned out attorney
11:59 AM on 08/02/2011
Wayne, please read the article before commenting. Obama does not pick the senators for the committee. Republicans picked Alan Simpson for the Simpson/Bowles group. If you get your facts right, your conclusions might be worth sharing.
01:56 PM on 08/02/2011
You honestly believe that Obama won't have his thumb on Reid. Where have you been? Wayne is correct. Obama, through Reid, will stack the committee in favor of his desired outcome; and as indicated above, the Debt Commission is an excellent example.
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LizM
My micro-bio is too long for this space.
02:15 PM on 08/02/2011
Oh, that was very nice.
10:44 AM on 08/02/2011
Considering how ineffectively both parties handled this matter, Larry, Moe and Curly would be good candidates for the super congress.
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Chris Weigant
www.ChrisWeigant.com
03:21 PM on 08/02/2011
Zack B -

To quote the learned philosophers...

"Oh... a wise guy, eh?"

Nyuk nyuk nyuk. Couldn't resist.

-CW
09:56 AM on 08/02/2011
Much of the criticism of the structure of this committee presumes that there can only be "Democratic Plans" or "Republican Plans". I think this misses the whole point of the committee and how its members should be chosen. The idea is to have a bipartisan committee consisting of members who have shown the capacity to work collaboratively. If the leadership chooses to appoint only inflexible partisans, then we all lose.
11:37 AM on 08/02/2011
Working for the man!
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MsLizabeth
Flaming liberal, burned out attorney
12:00 PM on 08/02/2011
What does that mean? Just a gratuitous insult because you have nothing worthy to say?
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WFWS
Proud Liberal
09:37 AM on 08/02/2011
This article is precient of what the NEXT Democrat capitulation will be. Instead of appointing strong Democrats with progressive tendencies and a decent grasp of economics and history, we'll find the most 'capitulation friendly' member we can. You lay out the choices. I'd love Grijalva to sit on this committee. Patty Murray would be great, a true Democrat. But some of these others would fold like a cheap shirt to pressure in their districts. Republicans know this, and they know all too well that Dems are not great at voting solidly as a block. This committee won't serve progressives, that's for sure.
What's worse is that it will become the 'debt ceiling committee, if Grover Tax Daddy has his way. We'll be forever mired in debt ceiling negotiations, choking down edicts from the 12 Thugs of Congress. That's what conservatives want- less government, and fewer ways to get anything done.
Representation of voters just became greatly more abstract, more removed from actual citizens with this committee. And how do we turn the OFF when we decide that giving this much power to 12 elected representatives is CRAZY?
But your article is right on target, minty fresh with information that's just a little ahead of the crowd. Great political reporting, Chis!
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Chris Weigant
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03:20 PM on 08/02/2011
WFWS -

I'd also love to see Grijalva there, as well as Bruce Braley and maybe Barney Frank.

But I really had to write to say thanks for the kind words, and the "minty fresh" got a big laugh out of me!

:-)

-CW
09:09 AM on 08/02/2011
yikes. This is one of the related article links from above.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/super-congress-to-target-second-amendment.html

Are the commentors there all in prison or will they just be there soon? I believe they are the tea party base.
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08:54 AM on 08/02/2011
Reasonable Republican? Thanks for the laugh. A good day to start the morning.