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Two Reluctant Bargainers

Posted: 04/ 6/11 08:39 PM ET

In the midst of a budget fight not seen in Washington in over a decade -- with the possibility of a government shutdown looming -- it's interesting to see how the two men at the heart of the standoff seem to be the least fervent ideologues of either party. What this means for the negotiations themselves is anyone's guess, but it's hard not to see how uncomfortable both Speaker of the House John Boehner and President Barack Obama are at this sort of bare-knuckles game.

John Boehner, if "insider" reports can be believed, shared one thing in common with President Obama -- a desire to "change the way we do things in Washington" -- when he stepped up to the Speaker's chair. This mostly went unnoticed beyond congressional wonks, but Boehner really did seem to be offended at the way both parties had run the House in recent years. His was going to be a different type of House -- one where debate was free and open, and where he personally wouldn't be jamming any bills down the throat of both the opposition and his own party. He soon learned, however, the political consequences of trying to do things differently than either Nancy Pelosi or Denny Hastert had done them.

When the House began work this year, Boehner tried his new way of doing things with the first round of budget bills. The press ran stories of how undisciplined the new Republican House was, and how Boehner couldn't get a majority of his own caucus in order when it came time to line up votes. A big part of his problem was that the Tea Party Republican faction in the House is not very open to following their own party's leadership. This isn't all that surprising, seeing as how the Tea Partiers see themselves as a grass-roots movement driven by regular voters' concerns. To keep this self-image intact, it seems almost inevitable that they would be unruly when it came to voting the way Boehner wanted them to vote. Since that time, things have gotten worse, in terms of party cohesiveness. The last temporary budget fix passed the House in what can only be called a bipartisan fashion, as dozens of Republicans voted against it and dozens of Democrats supported it. This may be the only way a government shutdown can be avoided in the next few days, as well.

Unfortunately for Boehner, the dissenters are pressuring him into refusing pretty much any deal the White House and the Democrats offer. They want the whole ball of wax, and some of the Tea Party faction actually relishes the prospect of shutting down the government. Boehner recently signaled that he has been listening to them, when he announced that he wasn't going to approve any deal that couldn't pass with a straight majority vote in the House from his caucus (218 Republican votes, in other words). This was, doubtlessly, meant to reassure the Tea Partiers, since such a number would be impossible to hit without them.

But Boehner isn't really all that comfortable staking out such an extreme position. This would be even more partisan than the way Denny Hastert ran the House, which was not exactly how Boehner wanted to run his House (again, if insider reports can be believed). It hasn't stopped Boehner from posturing in front of the cameras this week, however. Perhaps he's hoping that if he projects the image of fighting hard to carry the Tea Party Republicans' water, they'll go along with him when he cuts the almost-inevitable deal with the Obama White House. "I fought as hard as I could," you can picture him saying to his caucus, "and this is the best we can get." Boehner was around the last time the government really did shut down, and he remembers full well who got blamed for it -- the guy who was Speaker of the House.

Boehner's natural inclination would be to cut a deal and proclaim victory. But he knows this may not be enough for the Tea Party faction. At the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, however, Barack Obama seems just as uncomfortable with the role he is now assuming as Bargainer-in-Chief for the Democrats.

Obama doesn't exactly relish such legislative controversy. He is much more comfortable outlining broad legislative goals and then stepping back and letting Congress do all the negotiating and bargaining. Obama is not known for drawing lines in the sand, to put it mildly. On major legislation, Obama is content to stay mostly on the sidelines and goad Congress to get something -- anything -- passed which loosely fits a set of goals he has laid out. The nuts-and-bolts negotiating such legislation requires is not Obama's favorite thing to do, by far.

Which is why Barack Obama is looking just as uncomfortable in front of the cameras these days as John Boehner. His impromptu press conference yesterday showed his frustration with the entire process, and how he would truly like to position himself as the "adult in the room" who is above the fray of the give-and-take. This is a much more comfortable role for Obama, but he may no longer have the luxury of staying out of the dealmaking the way he did when both houses of Congress were controlled by his party. To be blunt, it's hard to see Harry Reid and John Boehner agreeing to much of anything in the near future, no matter how critical the legislation may be.

Which means presidential leadership is called for. Obama, to be fair, has been involved in the budget negotiations more than the press has given him credit for, recently. But he sees his role as almost painfully non-partisan -- again, the grownup among squabbling (partisan) children. This isn't going to work every single time over the next two years, though. This is merely the first big congressional battle over legislation which critically must be passed. It's nowhere near the last one, or even the biggest one (the upcoming fight over extending the debt limit will have much worse consequences if it doesn't pass on time, for instance).

Obama truly does want to "change the way Washington works," as he campaigned on. Even more than Boehner, he wants to change Washington's partisan culture. This has annoyed his own party no end, as he accepts compromises with Republicans -- and then gets absolutely no Republican votes for his efforts in Congress. Obama has barely even used the most powerful tool presidents have: the veto. He's only even threatened to veto legislation a handful of times in his entire presidency. He is not very comfortable drawing lines in the sand, as he sees himself more in the "Can't we all just get along?" mold of politician. Even now, days from a shutdown, the only line in the sand Obama has tangibly drawn seems to be that the Tea Party folks are "not going to get 100 percent" of what they want.

Of course, none of us really knows what is taking place behind closed doors in private conversations among the major players in the budget fight. All the posturing may solely be for the benefit of the cameras, to shore up both sides' political base. A deal may indeed be close to being struck. Or not -- as I said, nobody really knows right now who isn't physically in the room during such discussions.

But what's striking to me is how neither one of the two men who are going to have to be at the heart of any deal seems very eager to be in the position they find themselves in right now. President Obama seems to want to position himself for the 2012 re-election campaign as some sort of post-Democratic Democrat who can be the president "of all Americans, not just Democrats." John Boehner just seems downright terrified of the Tea Party whirlwind blowing through the Republican Party. It can't help Boehner that pundits are openly speculating whether he will eventually be deposed as Speaker in favor of a more acceptable candidate to the Tea Partiers (such as Eric Cantor, who is waiting in the wings). Boehner knows he's got to appear to be as fire-breathing as possible, therefore the closer to a government shutdown he gets (without actually shutting the government down), the more acceptable Boehner is to the Tea Party Republicans. Obama, on the other hand, knows that if he capitulates fully to the Tea Party demands, he will have totally abdicated his role as party leader -- so he also benefits from tough posturing (without actually drawing any clear lines in the sand).

But neither one of them looks very comfortable in their respective combative positions. In fact, both of them look downright reluctant to be leading this fight for their side. Both of them know that this fight is important because it is the first big political test of the year. Both of them know that if they are seen by their base as giving away too much, it's going to hurt them politically. But neither one of them look like they're happy at the roles they have been slated to play in this drama. Call them reluctant bargainers, at best.

 

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In the midst of a budget fight not seen in Washington in over a decade -- with the possibility of a government shutdown looming -- it's interesting to see how the two men at the heart of the standoff ...
In the midst of a budget fight not seen in Washington in over a decade -- with the possibility of a government shutdown looming -- it's interesting to see how the two men at the heart of the standoff ...
 
 
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02:12 PM on 04/07/2011
Chris, I'm baffled trying to understand exactly what it is you think that President Obama can do, given the miserable hand we've dealt him in Congress and the impasse between the parties in Congress. We didn't elect him dictator, although in hindsight I would have been tempted to. Where's Harry Reid, anyway, in your story?
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halfpricefaustian
Voted for Obama. Waiting for Godot.
12:32 PM on 04/07/2011
My guess is that Obama will eventually agree to a proposal that does not include the HCR cuts and the EPA rider, but he will cave on Planned Parenthood funding, along with more cuts to maybe 35 billion. Boehner will accept that. Then it will be up to the TP republicans, who probably won't care about losing the EPA thing but will get stuck on HCR funding and not enough cuts, so it won't pass the House and then shutdown will start. The biggest problem here is in the House, not the Senate or the White House.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
10:00 AM on 04/07/2011
So basically Obama does not look comfortable in his roll as a leader?

As a candidate For President once said:

"Never before in our history have Americans been called upon to face three grave threats to our very existence, any one of which could destroy us. We face a disintegrating economy, a weakened defense and an energy policy based on the sharing of scarcity.

The major issue of this campaign is the direct political, personal and moral responsibility of Democratic Party leadership --in the White House and in Congress -- for this unprecedented calamity which has befallen us. They tell us they have done the most that humanly could be done. They say that the United States has had its day in the sun; that our nation has passed its zenith. They expect you to tell your children that the American people no longer have the will to cope with their problems; that the future will be one of sacrifice and few opportunities.

My fellow citizens, I utterly reject that view. The American people, the most generous on earth, who created the highest standard of living, are not going to accept the notion that we can only make a better world for others by moving backwards ourselves. Those who believe we can have no business leading the nation.

I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose."

And he won!
09:10 AM on 04/07/2011
There is only one good solution to most problems. The problem is the republican leaders don't want a good solution, they want to profit even more from the elderly and they want to shut down Medicare.

When I left private insurance and went to Medicare, I felt like I had escaped something evil. I had the misfortune of having my health insurance with the same group that owned all the hospitals and Doctor group in the area. To be in network you had to go to them.

When I became sick they were abusive. They dropped my prescription coverage, then they dropped me but found out since I was on Cobra they couldn't. Then they raised my deductible to 5,000. Plus my stop loss had no limit.

They have private companies running Medicare now. This is outrageous.
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bbarnezz
Round up the usual suspects
07:51 AM on 04/07/2011
Another well written analysis, Chris. The President has once again attempted to keep his skirts clean by tiptoeing through the minefield of actual legislating and partisan negotiation. He does seem genuinely frustrated by having to, even marginally, enter the fight. And the Speaker looks like he just double bogeyed his favorite golf hole every time he has to stand up and make a pronouncement that he is on the side of the teapublicans. Both of them look like they would prefer to make the deal behind closed doors and just move on.
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Carl Caroli
I just don't understand people
07:46 AM on 04/07/2011
Obama is the great caver, as far as I'm concerned. He caves to special interests, republicans, corporations....
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new beginning
Practice random acts of kindness-change the world
08:16 AM on 04/07/2011
Libyan rebels (did we ever figure out who they are?) - to the tune of $2 Billion per day.
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roberttsf
Give War A Chance
11:25 AM on 04/07/2011
Where do you get these numbers?
07:44 AM on 04/07/2011
Very early on the Republicans recognized Obama as weak. His bipartisanship fetish gave the Republicans the perfect opening for moving the country further and further to the right because they knew Obama was more concerned with optics than ideals. His bipartisanship has not served the country well.
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new beginning
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08:19 AM on 04/07/2011
I believe that it was the President's slamming the door in the GOP's face on day 1 when ramming the "emergency" Stimulus through - all the while talking a good game about bringing the country together but with his actions belying his words - that created the gridlock....

He had a great opportunity to bring us together because the country was intrigued and inspired by the election of the first AA President. And he blew it.
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roberttsf
Give War A Chance
11:33 AM on 04/07/2011
I think that Pelosi and Reid really slammed the door and now the president is being held accountable for their arrogance.

Additionally the Tea Party is really holding the speaker hostage with the riders they have placed in the budget. It appears to me that the riders are nothing more than an opportunity to stick a thumb in the president's eye. I think the Tea Party Caucus could improve the effectiveness of thier position within the GOP if they dropped the social conservative issues and stuck to what they were elected for which is fiscal conservatism.

Eitherway, I don't think the two parties are remotely close to a deal, and I do love all the dramatacised crap I've been hearing in the media about people left out in the cold and seniors not recieving their SS checks, as a result of a potential and now immenent Government shut down.
05:50 AM on 04/07/2011
Chris, the problem isn't that Obama is loath to draw lines in the sand, it's that he draws them where Republicans prefer: as with the two wars he inherited, his new one, the public option, taxing the rich, Wall Street reform, not restoring habeas corpus, not vigorously defending workers' rights, and buying into half of the Tea Party's $70 Billion in ruinous spending cuts. For all intents and purposes, he's non-partisan, not a Democrat.

He certainly isn't a Democratic advocate. Nancy Pelosi passed over 300 progressive bills in the House, last session, that died in the Senate; Obama evidently just watched. Robert Reich constantly advocates sound economic policy; Obama doesn't. Howard Dean constantly speaks to the concerns of mainstream Democrats; Obama rarely employs the bully pulpit. Jesse Jackson marched with Wisconsinites in the snow and helped to elect JoAnne Kloppenburg; Obama conspicuously didn't. Harry Reid has a louder voice in Washington than Obama does.

If Obama is all that stands between the American Middle Class and its destruction, our civil liberties and their demise, McCain and Palin might as well have won.

We need an actual partisan Democrat as a candidate for President in 2012. Mr. Obama doesn't remotely qualify.
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Chris1962
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06:29 AM on 04/07/2011
I feel genuinely sorry for liberals re: Obama, because when you come right down to it, all he did was say what he had to, to get himself elected. He was never a person of principle but a fast-tracking pol, looking for a place in the history books, evidenced by the way he handled HCR. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamasdeal/view/?utm_campaign=viewpage&utm_medium=grid&utm_source=grid No sooner was he in the White House when the first conversation was whether they should even BOTHER with HCR.

Sorry, but from where I'm sitting, you guys got snookered, big time. Yet no one's even bothering to hit the streets with protest signs (e.g.,, Anybody but Obama in 2012) or put a primary challenger in there, like Anthony Weiner, or ANYBODY who reflects your principles. You guys are really your own worst enemies. All you're doing is assuring future pols that no matter how many time they kick you in the teeth and/or diss you publicly, you'll nevertheless trot out and reward with with your vote next time around. Big mistake.
09:38 AM on 04/07/2011
"[Obama only said] what he had to, to get himself elected. . . .[F]rom where I'm sitting, [liberals] got snookered, big time. "

It looks that way from where I sit, too. Well to your left. And, just as you say, big time.

A Democrat who actually embraces the platform Obama merely claimed to support could garner not only the backing Obama has from those who like his party label, his rhetoric, or the fact he's not Bush43, but also the backing of many who dislike Obama personally. He now has as much political baggage as a Clinton or a Bush--but try convincing an Obama diehard of that.

I think a serious primary challenge to Obama can still emerge--but I don't see Obama getting re-elected in any case. With the 2012 changes in the Electorial College and all of Obama's policy pirouettes, it will take a Palin-Bachmann ticket for Obama to regain full progressive support. The Green Party candidate or some unwitting actual Socialist might have a banner year, instead.

Your read is accurate on this score. Thanks for the sympathy.
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halfpricefaustian
Voted for Obama. Waiting for Godot.
01:35 PM on 04/07/2011
What you conveniently omit from your calculus is the bottom line. Obama, for all his faults, caves, backroom deals, etc is still far better than anything the other side offered.
02:01 AM on 04/07/2011
Expect an eleventh hour deal that I am sure is already in place. Everything playing out now is nothing but politics. I think the speaker sees that there is maneuvering in the wings to force him out of the big chair. Cantor is building his support and biding his time until he makes his move.
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BillZBubb
Cogito ergo sum. Cogito.
11:28 PM on 04/06/2011
Wanna bet who blinks first?
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LazarusDurden
To Make A Long Story Short...
12:32 AM on 04/07/2011
Sure Boehner. He'll blink first.
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laurieanichols
je pense donc, je suis
10:49 PM on 04/06/2011
So, Boehner must be saying to himself, this isn't what it's cracked up to be. He probably turns around fairly often to check to see if there is a knife protruding from his back courtesy of fellow republicans. I was pleasantly surprised that Reid has stood so strong on social security. There is no amount of deficit hysteria that will ever have me believe that social security is in any real trouble. I do agree that medicare and medicaid need to be adjusted but the way I see it; it can be done by increasing the payroll taxes on medicare and medicaid and/or really exploring the single payer system. I guess I don't know what to say about our President except that I wish he were more forceful with the republicans and would get more comfortable drawing lines in the sand. I also wish that he wouldn't even indirectly validate the republicans message by saying yes to cuts but not that many. Instead, he should say cutting while we are still fragile economically especially in terms of a still high unemployment rate, is the absolute wrong thing to do. He needs to state forcefully that we have to grow our economy, supply side economic theory has been proven wrong and misguided. That is what I wish our President would say.
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12:18 AM on 04/07/2011
'supply side economic theory has been proven wrong and misguided. That is what I wish our President would say.'

I wish he would, too, except that I doubt he believes that it is either "wrong" or "misguided."
10:36 PM on 04/06/2011
Oh please Sen. Harry "millionaire" Reid has not allowed a vote up or down on the house bill that has been sitting in congress for well over 40 days, so who is obstructing the process? Who has no allowed and up or down vote? Scary Harry refuses to act because he knows thee senate will add even more amendments to the bill that will weaken the obama tax and spend more then Bush Agenda. The Speak of the House is doing his job unlike the last one who never even dare to come up with a budget which is why we are in this mess because the liberals who ran the last congress and the senate refused to do their jobs.
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Chris Weigant
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01:57 AM on 04/07/2011
NV Tea Party TKM -

Except that, you know, he did. HR1 was indeed put to the vote in the Senate. It got 44 votes.

Meaning it's not going anywhere. It got voted down.

-CW
04:36 AM on 04/07/2011
"Who has no allowed and up or down vote? "

Every bit as well said as your comment is well reasoned.

"[T]he liberals who ran the last congress [sic] and the senate [sic] refused to do their jobs."

And, pray tell, what exactly is the job of House and Senate liberals in the Tea Party's estimation? If they elect to take their cue from the Tea Party, will the Tea Party then return the helpful favor?
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Chris1962
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06:34 AM on 04/07/2011
>>>And, pray tell, what exactly is the job of House and Senate liberals in the Tea Party's estimation­?>>>

House and Senate liberals are in Washington for no other reason than to represent the wishes of their constituents back home. That's what they were hired to do.
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09:59 PM on 04/06/2011
If Barack Obama is a Democratic John Boehner, maybe the Democrats need to find a better candidate for 2012.
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Chris1962
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12:11 AM on 04/07/2011
Why aren't liberals running someone like Weiner as a challenger? Too lazy to go to the trouble?
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12:26 AM on 04/07/2011
Democrats are afraid of Weiner. They are afraid of anyone who doesn't despise all they supposedly stand for.
They prefer nonentities like Obama, who stand for as close to nothing as possible.
09:43 PM on 04/06/2011
Its funny how Harry Reid is coming off as the adult in this game of gotcha.
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Chris1962
NYC
10:24 PM on 04/06/2011
To whom? The majority of Likely Voters — including unaffiliated voters, who decide elections — say shut the government down. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/march_2011/57_okay_with_government_shutdown_if_it_leads_to_deeper_budget_cuts And there's Harry fighting against cutting $60B in pocket change from the budget after the liberals shot the debt up to an unsustainable $14T level. Are you guys on a political suicide mission, or something? It's like you're begging, on bended knee, for another shellacking.
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Chris Weigant
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02:09 AM on 04/07/2011
Chris1962 -

Except for what that other radical poll, co-commissioned by that known Lefty publication known as the "Wall Street Journal" had to say about our long-term budget choices:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/03/07/what-the-american-people-really-want/

While it is true that the question of Medicare vouchers only scored 50% against, and 44 % for, I expect that number to change once the public (and the seniors, especially) get wind of what it really means; here are some other numbers from the poll:

Cutting Medicaid -- 32% for, 67% against.
Cutting Medicare -- 23% for, 76% against.

When this round (the 2011 budget CR) is over, people are going to start paying a lot more attention to what Paul Ryan's proposing. And it's not going to be happy news for the Republicans, that's my guess anyways. We'll see what the polls have to say then, won't we?

-CW