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Wisconsin's Vote More Important Than Iowa's

Posted: 08/08/11 10:12 PM ET

This week is being touted, in the political world, as a big week in the state of Iowa. There will be a nationally televised Republican presidential candidate debate, and then a few days later the Ames Straw Poll will take place. The straw poll is (as always) being hyped in the media as the "first voting" in the upcoming presidential nominating contest. But the media should pay more attention to what is happening in Wisconsin this week, because rather than some "vote"-buying exercise (that always proves itself to be completely meaningless in the grand scheme of the presidential election process), Wisconsin could prove to be a much better weathervane in terms of predicting which way the political winds will be blowing, come next year.

The less said about the Iowa straw poll the better, actually. The entire thing is an obscene display of how party machinery and blatant vote-buying have absolutely nothing to do with American voters actually choosing their president. The winner of the straw poll does not have any sort of "lock" on the state of Iowa, and indeed is often not even one of the top-tier candidates in the actual election. The only thing it accurately measures is the ability of each candidate to organize and pay for the massive people-moving which is required to do well in the straw poll (those buses to get "your" supporters to the straw poll don't pay for themselves, in other words). But beyond organizational, boots-on-the-ground mechanics, the straw poll measures precisely nothing of any real-world value (or even political-world value, for that matter).

Not so what will take place in Wisconsin tomorrow. Because tomorrow's vote is going to prove to be a bellwether in terms of how strong the Tea Party Republicans truly are, and how big their influence on next year's election may be. A good showing for Republicans tomorrow in Wisconsin will energize the Tea Party faction to bend the rest of the Republicans to their wishes throughout the entire campaign. Conversely, a win for Democrats tomorrow will show Democrats that the public is souring on the Tea Party creed, and will energize the Democrats for 2012.

A quick roundup of the history of how we got here is necessary. Wisconsin, in 2010, elected Republican Scott Walker as their new governor. Walker's party was also handed control of the state legislature. He used this power to shove through some very anti-union legislation, which prompted the Democratic legislators to flee the state to use the only parliamentary maneuver they had left to prevent the bill from passing -- denying a "quorum" for the legislature to legally do business. This effort eventually failed (Republicans dusted off their own bag of legislative tricks), but not before massive people-power protests in the state capitol building. The upshot of this bitter fight was that Democrats immediately moved to recall six Republican state senators. They would have much preferred to recall the governor himself, but by state law he's got to have a full year in office before this is even possible. The Republicans countered by attempting a recall on three Democratic state senators, for "deserting their posts" (as it were).

Which brings us almost up to tomorrow. A few more salient facts first, though. One of the Democrats has already survived a recall vote, and the other two Democrats won't have their special recall elections until later in the month. Tomorrow is the day all six Republicans go before the voters. Oh, and the scorecard is important -- the state senate now stands at 19 Republicans to 14 Democrats. This means Democrats need to pick up a net of three seats in all the recall elections. The two Democrats up for recall later in the month are most likely safe. One last thing, the races have received national attention and national money (in the tens of millions of dollars), because they are seen as so important, as a test case for next year's election.

Salon has a quick rundown on the state of the six races which will be decided tomorrow (although there is a factual error in the article's lead paragraphs: "If the Democrats can defeat more than five of the incumbents" should read: "If the Democrats can defeat five of the incumbents"). Their rundown is: two probable wins for Republicans, two probable pickups for Democrats, and two races too close to call. That's pretty close. If the Democrats do pick up their expected two seats, then they'd just need to win one of the two tossups in order to take the state senate back (assuming the two Democrats beat their recall election later on).

Whether it is entirely accurate or not, this election is seen as the first real test with voters of the Tea Party ideology since the 2010 election. Which is why what happens tomorrow is going to be instantly subjected to some hard spin from both sides, no matter what the outcome.

If Republicans hang on to four state senate seats, they'll portray it on the state level as a vindication of their union-busting legislation, and on the national level as proof of voter support for Tea Party intransigence. The entire Republican Party will become even more in thrall to the Tea Partiers, for the entire election cycle. "The voters of Wisconsin showed that they support our tactics," will be the new slogan for the Tea Party contingent in national Republican politics.

If Democrats do pick up three (or even four) seats, however, it will re-energize Democrats both on the state and national level. The Democratic spin will be some version of: "The voters of Wisconsin showed that they do not buy in to how the Tea Party is trying to run things, and Republican candidates for office should take note -- blindly following the Tea Party is going to lead you right out of office."

Special elections are not always the bellwethers they are made out to be. Democrats, for instance, won quite a few tough House special elections leading up to their rout in 2010. But whether accurate or not, whatever happens tomorrow in Wisconsin could go a long way towards setting the tone for the entire 2012 election season (as opposed to whatever happens in Ames, Iowa this weekend, which will be quickly forgotten when the real voting begins). Either the Democrats or the Tea Partiers are going to claim a big victory (and, inevitably, a "mandate") for their positions tomorrow evening. One side or another will have some serious wind in its sails.

In normal times, recall elections are very tough to win. The voting public is resistant to the idea of recalling an elected official, for many reasons. There is the feeling that they should have their term in office before they have to face the voters again. There is the sentiment that special elections (especially recall elections) are a waste of the state's time -- and, more importantly, of taxpayer money. There is often resentment towards the party which effected the recall.

But these are far from normal times. So feel free to enjoy the sideshows happening in Iowa later in the week, but pay much closer attention to what's about to happen in Wisconsin. Of the two, Wisconsin's vote is going to -- by far -- be more important to the course of the 2012 election.

 

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Chris1962
NYC
03:43 AM on 08/13/2011
>>>Either the Democrats or the Tea Partiers are going to claim a big victory (and, inevitably, a "mandate") for their positions tomorrow evening.>>>

I thought it was pretty evident from the 2010 shellacking that the Dems didn't have the mandate, Chris, but liberals, nevertheless, kept fighting the already lost cause. States can't afford the unions' golden benefits packages anymore, and there isn't a reason in the world for union workers to be paying LESS than the citizens who pay their salaries. I think this whole recall effort is achieving nothing more than Dems sealing their own fate. Yet, freshly defeated, they're marching ever onward to recall the governor now. What happens if/when they lose that one, too? Are unions/progressives even considering what THAT level of defeat is going to telegraph to the country?

Liberals/progressives are very poor strategists, IMO. It's all emotion and no long-term planning. If Dems want to hold onto the White House, I think they should be investing their time, and every last dime, in finding and supporting a primary challenger. And I don't mean a progessive, either, but a Blue Dog, who can attract those ever-critical Independent voters, whom Obama has been hemorrhaging since the CrapCare King George-style "mandate" got pushed on the People, against their will. Otherwise, you guys are just handing the WH over to the Republicans. And that's not to mention congress, where the numbers are not stacked in the Dems' favor: http://www.nationaljournal.com/video-charlie-cook-looks-into-senate-s-future-20110228
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Teacher Trish
The Enlightenment was a good idea.
07:24 PM on 08/09/2011
Is the Ames Poll important? I don't know, try asking former winners Pat Robertson, Bob Dole and Mike Huckabee.
;-)
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rockysparks
there's no law against being annoying.
12:54 PM on 08/09/2011
With all due respect to the people of Iowa, the Iowa straw polls are essential meaningless because so few people are voting so early for are hardly-full list of candidates. The expected announcement of Rick Perry as a presidential candidate --- and Perry is not on the list of candidates --- will negate the significance of any candidates currently on the Iowa ballot, save the winner. The real story is in Wisconsin, where, if the recall effort is successful, the Tea Party and Party of No should consider themselves put on notice that Americans are not happy with such destructive and radical extremist activities as have been happening there and in Washington.
MThomasNC
Retired, Sassy, Senior Citizen
12:01 PM on 08/09/2011
Yeah, it's all about conservatives this, conservatives that and no news about Wisconsin where I think the action is. Too bad though because when the revolution comes, it will not be televised; and it is coming. Wisconsin is the first.
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Chris Weigant
www.ChrisWeigant.com
12:34 PM on 08/09/2011
MThomasNC -

Allow me to add:

R.I.P. Gil Scott Heron.

He will be missed.

-CW
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studioh!
bridging the snarchasm
11:14 AM on 08/09/2011
straw poll for a bunch of straw men and at least one not so flexi-straw
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Nomccain
10:44 AM on 08/09/2011
Wisconsin could well be the turning point in terms of throwing these extremist Tea Party terrorists out. They basically forced this nation into a credit crisis before the entire free world just to get their way on the budget. The cuts that were adopted didn't mention any new revenue, especially from the millionaires even though there were 1,400 of them in 2009 that paid NO taxes at all while we, the middle class struggled to pay ours. When you add to that, the fact that these same millionaires took their jobs and industries overseas or to Mexico for cheap labor with no benefits and no collective bargaining ability, the rich deserved NO BREAKS AT ALL that they got. The tea party is financed by big money and big corporations and their election means that Seniors and Middle Class will get left out completely. Wake up Americans.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
08:45 AM on 08/10/2011
I guess not huh? looks like we arent such extremists but still in control and considered mainstream?

The voters decided.
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mburgh
Come Back Samuel Gompers
10:38 AM on 08/09/2011
The political turbulence of this time certainly deserves more coverage that a GOP incest fest.
09:41 AM on 08/09/2011
I can't help but notice Huffpo's lack of coverage on the mob mugging of citizens leaving the state fair in Wisconsin. It was technically a hate crime, but not the comfortable white on black variety that the media loves.
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edejan
10:40 AM on 08/09/2011
Huffpo covered it. It was found that the fair closed entrance to minors in the evening unless accompanied by an adult...so the kids freaked out. Nothing more or less.
11:33 AM on 08/09/2011
Ehh, no... They closed the entrance to minors w/o parents in the evening due to the mob attacks the night before. You should read more sources than HuffPost before claiming to know what you are talking about.
10:42 AM on 08/09/2011
People here could care less about hate crimes against white people.
SouthernYankeeBelle
Dream Big,Work Hard & don't let anyone tell you no
01:33 PM on 08/09/2011
That isn't true. I'm white and I care but I also care about anyone of any race getting beaten up and you should also.
08:49 AM on 08/09/2011
As bad as the democratic leadership in Washington has been Wisconsin is one of the few rays of hope and I wish the people well in their fight against the republican extremists.
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CSDofNM
I speak lolcat
08:47 AM on 08/09/2011
Thanks for your perspective Chris. Informative, as always.
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HUFFPOST BLOGGER
Chris Weigant
www.ChrisWeigant.com
12:31 PM on 08/09/2011
CSDofNM -

Well, thank you for the kind words.

:-)

Oh, wait, just saw your minibio... should that be in lolcat? Um...

"Thankz for cheezburger! Purr!"

Heh.

-CW
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CSDofNM
I speak lolcat
02:18 PM on 08/09/2011
" I wouda given you a cookie - but I ated it."

Thanks again for all your good work.
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PTAOfficerforObama
It's arithmetic, stupid
08:26 AM on 08/09/2011
Wisconsin voters, get out and vote! Vote for the people! Vote Democrat!
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rjlwis
08:15 AM on 08/09/2011
Let's not forget that 5 of the recalls in today's election are in districts that have been Republican districts for a long time. Turning over 3 of them would be a great accomplishment. More than 3, would be astounding! Take notes America, here's how democracy works!
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Tischindelray
The left isn't right about anything
06:16 AM on 08/15/2011
How'd that work for you?
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
08:06 AM on 08/09/2011
Ah yes, the people elected to government office with a platform of we are going to cut spending and not lay people off verse the "Flee Baggers" who ran away from doing the jobs to which they were elected.

Wisconsin is normally a solid blue state and voted overwhelming for Obama in 2008. Since 1959 they have had 6 Democrat Governors.

This is not a national bellwether on the 2012 elections.
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tinsldr2
Retired Army Officer
10:13 AM on 08/09/2011
More On Wisconsin, They have voted for Democrat Presidential candidates in every elections since 1984. They Voted for Carter and then Reagan twice then All dems got the states electoral college voting to include the Bush years.

http://www.270towin.com/states/Wisconsin
07:30 AM on 08/09/2011
"One of the Democrats has already survived a recall vote"...WTF? Wisconsin's have way too much time on their hands. Instead of spending all their time and money recalling elected officials,maybe they should go to work.
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rjlwis
08:10 AM on 08/09/2011
We are!!! Working to right a wrong and to correct an election when deception was the tactic.
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windy33
08:25 AM on 08/09/2011
WELL SAID. we will prevail we must or it will be hell for the average american people. the repubs have trampled on us long enough. they say the dems are tax and spend, but CLINTON GAVE US A SURPLUS AND BUSHE GAVE US THE BILLS. NOW THEY COME DUE AND THE RIGHTIES BLAME US. HA THESE BILLS WE NOW HAVE WERE FROM BUSH GIVEING THE RICH AND BIG CORPORATIONS BIG TAX BREAKS our tax breaks are much less then them, we make up for what they don't have to pay. they spent like drunken sailors and never paid for anything but yet they want to blame obama. oh pleeez
08:19 AM on 08/09/2011
Yes . . . Screw that tiresome democracy thingy and get back to the fields you miserable peasants!
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PTAOfficerforObama
It's arithmetic, stupid
08:27 AM on 08/09/2011
f/f
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jnncan8
Obama 2012
10:54 AM on 08/09/2011
Love it! f&f
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Cyn63
Every day I wake up is a great one
06:45 AM on 08/09/2011
Chris, I can find only one flaw in your argument. If the repubs win, they will scream it from the highest mountain that this is certainly a mandate and their will must be followed. If they lose, they will scream from the highest mountain that democracy has been corrupted and that their way is still the only way. They will not see their defeat as no one wants them around, only that they need to scream louder and push harder into our lives.
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aznurse
07:49 AM on 08/09/2011
I rather have them scream from outside the capital building

but I bet there will be minimum media coverage of whats going on in Wisconsin anyway,.
this will be the bellweather of the coverage of the Presidential election
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edejan
10:48 AM on 08/09/2011
Yeah, nothing shuts them up. But I'd rather they lose and scream. Then I can laugh at them. Fanned.