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Christine Pelosi

Christine Pelosi

Posted: April 27, 2010 07:12 PM

Like most Americans, I believe Arizona overreached with its racial profiling immigration bill. As infuriating as the law is, the rush to condemn Arizona has included certain inexcusable tactics we should deplore and calls for condemnation that we should explore before jumping in with a blanket boycott.

Most Americans agree that we should bring immigrants out of the shadows, where they are exploited by employers driving down community wages for unskilled laborers, abused by human traffickers and gangbangers, and unable to assert their basic human rights for fear that others will report and deport them. The way forward is a solution between amnesty and removal: a policy that secures our borders and offers a conditional path to citizenship that includes getting in line behind legal immigrants, paying taxes and fees, starting to learn English, and being of good behavior. This is the essence of the bi-partisan Kennedy-McCain and Schumer-Graham proposals, and the best way forward for our oldest and newest Americans. The Arizona law takes this fight in the wrong direction -- it is constitutionally suspect in allowing stops based upon the appearance of non-citizenship, and conspicuously lax on penalties for false claims or racial profiling.

When something as blatantly offensive as the Arizona law is passed, the first instinct is to strike back -- hard -- with equal force. But our first instincts are not always our best instincts. Swastikas smeared on windows and water bottles tossed at police won't do. We must encourage peaceful protest and respectful dialog if we are to overcome our differences. Each of us who deplored the US Capitol protests with Nazi symbols and insults hurled at African American and openly gay Members of Congress by tea party activists must deplore intolerance at the Arizona Capitol with equal vigor.

As a Californian who has enjoyed family visits and cactus league baseball in Arizona, I am concerned that some of my city and state's elected officials are calling for blanket boycotts without publicly exploring the side effects. Before condemning Arizona, let's consider these elements:

1. What do Arizonans want?
Republicans are driving Latinos into the arms of the Democratic Party - do they want their welcome to be a boycott that punishes their families or an engagement that empowers change? I have heard from people in and out of Arizona who urge boycotts, decry boycotts, and preach caution. I am most interested here in asking whether boycotts punish the very people - such as hotel employees, restaurant wait staff, and taxi drivers - we progressives are trying to support. Many have suggested shielding Latino businesses from a blanket boycott. Why not wait a few days to fully engage immigration allies in Arizona and determine what they want for their state before we decide for them?

2. Must we act right this minute? There were months of negotiations not 3 days before the late 1980s-early 1990s boycott of Arizona after they denied a MLK holiday . Respectful dialog first might be a sign of goodwill, especially among allies. Might there be efforts to elect Democrats in November, place an referendum on the ballot, or estop implementation of the Arizona law before travel bans and cancelled contracts?

3. What if Arizona turned the tables and boycotted us? We have already had to fight House Floor votes to cut off funding for sanctuary cities like San Francisco, such as then-Congressman Tom Tancredo's 2007 amendment banning Department of Homeland Security emergency funds to sanctuary cities in 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city by a wide margin of 234-to-189. We seek tolerance when San Francisco is singled out - perhaps we should grant the same to Arizonans.

4. Would a boycott escalate the hate? Remember the unhelpful Bill O'Reilly threat to cut off military aid to San Francisco even in response to a terrorist attack http://politifi.com/news/OReilly-to-San-Francisco-If-Al-Qaeda-comes-in-here-and-blows-you-up-were-not-going-to-do-anything-about-it-You-want-to-blow-up-the-Coit-Tower-Go-ahead-235983.html after the a ballot measure passed by 60 percent of San Francisco voters urged public high schools and colleges to prohibit on-campus military recruiting? Knowing the powder keg of public sentiment, would a blanket boycott inflame more than it informs?

Perhaps a consideration of all these factors will yield a consensus that condemning Arizona is indeed the approach welcomed by Arizonans, in the fullness of a timely debate, welcomed even by people who would suffer economically, despite the incendiary rhetoric . Perhaps not. We won't know until we ask -- and ask we must. Blanket boycotts won't achieve social justice. As tempting as grandstanding can be, thoughtful research, careful calibration, and respectful dialog are in my opinion more effective tools to achieve a repeal of the Arizona law and enactment of national immigration reform.

 

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Christine Pelosi
Author, Campaign Boot Camp 2.0
08:03 PM on 04/28/2010
AZ challenge lawsuit is hours away. Shakira heads to AZ tomorrow - a level of engagement we may see repeated often by celebrity protesters. Discussions continue about a strike fund and other means of supporting/organizing workers we know will lose jobs until the courts throw this unconstitutional law out. And civil dialog continues despite the high passions and low tactics of some. Many moving parts.
02:50 PM on 04/28/2010
Arizonans--the ones who simulataneously decry federal intrusion and demand a federal solution to their state's problems--could move this issue to resolution themselves with no new laws.

If everyone who knows anyone who employs illegals gave their acquaintances 2 weeks to get those illegals off the payroll, and then made good on their threats to demand prosecution of all illegal EMPLOYERS, the dynamics would change almost overnight.

The crucial value of these people to the economy would become evident. The epidemic hypocrisy of whining about the problem they themselves are causing through illegal employment would be exposed. A whole new conversation would start about effective reform to the generations-long Republican stategy of funneling cheap, unprotected-by-law labor to agribusiness and those-who-can-afford-domestics.

Maybe someone would even notice that the rise in teh number of resident illegals correlates to the increase in the present, counter-productive enforcement efforts.

Mexicans used to cycle in and out of the US. Now it is so hard to get *back* in that they dare never go home.

Fine and jail ALL the illegal employers and for forces of pragmatism will overtake the presently ascendant forces of ideology. Some sort of effective policy will result and law enforcement will be free to concentrate on the drug runners, thieves and gangs rather than pouring out tax dollars in the desert sands.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
12:23 PM on 04/28/2010
Let me break down the fight for you. This law and it's results will be part of the defining conversation for the 2010 elections. It is realpolitik at its best or worst depending on your thought process but no one running for office will be able to duck this law and this debate. The GOP and the dems were going to fight at some point. On cultural issues, on economic issues, on social justice issues. It was going to happen. Right now we are in the strongest position we will be in for the next 6 years. Have the fight now when winning pays dividends and the GOP, racist at its core, can be made to own that racism and that division. If AZ hadn't been off the wall crazy, coming to see the President with guns, supporting militia, doing the hate thing and t-bag thing big time, maybe you be right. But they are at the forefront of the hate movement in this country and as such have to be resisted. Economically, politically, socially. If we wait they can catch their breath and come up with better talking points. The people our tactics turn off would have been turned off by Obama anyway. This is a fight for the soul of America. One we intend to win.

J
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Christine Pelosi
Author, Campaign Boot Camp 2.0
12:35 PM on 04/28/2010
The fight was likely inevitable as you suggest, J

Agree with most of your post except the "racist to its core" remark since I know open-minded Republicans and resist painting an entire party with a broad brush.

My key question still remains: what about the human cost of a boycott?
Would you be wiling to pay into a "strike fund" of sorts to help workers laid off by the boycott?
02:53 PM on 04/28/2010
Thank you,

Demonizing the opponent mirrors those directing the opponent and plays right into their divide and conquer strategy.

The facts are bad enough. No need exagerrate the presentation of the facts with FOX style hyperbole.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
04:06 PM on 04/28/2010
I would absolutely kick into a fund. So would most of the people I've spoken to about this issue. While my language was extreme in my conversation about the Republicans let me explain what I meant. It is my opinion that the GOP is actually three or four disparate groups. You have the neo-cons, the libertarians, the religious right and the fiscal conservatives. Those four groups, on the surface don't really have a lot in common. They have some connecting principles but there are more conflicts within those four groups than commonalities. So what links them. What makes them a cohesive unit? Racism and Racialized thinking (which is different than racism.) Those two things, the racialized thinking and racism, are tendrils linking the disparate groups of competing ideologies. Some of it came from integration, Reagan being a segregationist didn't help. Affirmative action after the civil rights act contributed to it as well, even though Af Am was a Dole/Nixon remedy to a complicated problem.

The point I am making is that if you take race out of the GOP, they aren't one party, they collapse under the weight of the competing ideologies. That is what I meant by racist at its core. I know it is a quibble to point out the different between "at its core" and to its core," :-) but i used at its core deliberately.

Thanks for the response, I really appreciate it.

J
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Marla Turner
01:26 PM on 04/28/2010
While I don't think the GOP is "racist at its core", I agree with you that a significant amount of racism pervades their party. What if the screaming mob protesting the White House, proudly carrying their guns, chanting "death to the President" and "Burn in Hell" had been people of color? Would Republicans or Tea Party Patriots still defend their right to arm and demonstrate or would they be arming in response? 'Nuff said.
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
12:23 PM on 04/28/2010
Christine,

Normally I would agree with you. Thoughtful calculating opposition is worth more than heat of the moment knee jerk reaction. However, this isn't knee jerk. AZ has major tourism issues already. The recession has hurt the state. In a weakened position AZ has over reached and there is a benefit to strong reaction. Even in disproportionate response. What AZ decided to do, and make no mistake they did it with calculation and reason, is attempt to force Hispanics from the state. Legal and illegal. They are attempting to maintain their majority, and they are doing it for a host of reasons, some pure, but mostly selfish and cynical.

This is both a civil rights fight and a political one. Of course we don't condone swastikas or attacking police. I have not encountered a dem who does. But we will not be silent as AZ codifies racial discrimination. This bill is Jim Crow. Unconstitutional on its face. While it seems like short term thinking to attack so quickly and so thoroughly, it is sound strategy.
11:42 AM on 04/28/2010
People who do not live in border states where people feel under seige should at least try and understand why we have reached a point where 70 percent of people in Arizona support this legislation. Despite spending billions on homeland security since 9/11 the southern border remains as porous as ever and the corrupt congress has done nothing except throw money into the pit of bureaucracy. Now this poisonous debate will blow up in their faces again and if they fail to live up to their responsibility to secure the border before doing anything else they will be giving the states the green light to pass radical laws like Arizona and let racists continue to exploit the situation.
11:56 AM on 04/28/2010
70 percent of fully-recognized citizens of Arizona right?

While I can appreciate the desire to pursue passive alternatives to a symbolic boycott, I can recall hearing similar sentiments from some people in regards to the Selma Boycott, and the SNC sit-ins, alternatively the opposition to equality showed up at every march or protest in force, weapons in hand with their hatred gleaming.

Is this so much different, while I understand that border states experience illiegal immigration more pronouncly than other states, but never-the-less the effects of illegal immigration are felt elsewhere as well.

But to pretend that in this economy there's even a possibility of spending 100's of billions on short-term border security is simply another pharse, the simplest thing to do is to deal with comprehensive immigration reform, establish alternatives to a criminal existence, and then using the revenue gained from limited fines, improve border security. No need for the gestapo
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Christine Pelosi
Author, Campaign Boot Camp 2.0
12:01 PM on 04/28/2010
Still concerned about human cost of boycott: if it's the consensus way forward could there be strike fund set up for families who lose jobs?
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jcwtts1
Elections have consequences
12:01 PM on 04/28/2010
Poll like the one you quote aren't hard numbers. Earlier this year a poll asked people two questions. Should we repeal DADT and should LGBT be allowed to serve openly in the military. There was a 40 point swing in the poll results. What I am saying is that if the number weren't 70 percent your entire argument falls apart. It is weak anyway because if you asked the jim crow south if they wanted to go back to segregated schools you'd get a similarly high number. Does that mean we do it. The tyranny of the majority is a real thing. The law in unconstitutional. I understand things are tough in border states, they are tough all over. You can't pass unconstitutional laws just because things are tough.

J
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ESerafina42
Abandoned by wolves, raised by Republicans.
11:30 AM on 04/28/2010
Generally I'm not a big fan of boycotts, but on the other hand, I'm sure that the city has legitimate concerns that if they hold events there, they are laying their citizens (at least any who don't look, act or dress like what any given Arizona police officer considers "American") open to harassment.

I know a lovely lady who escaped Hitler's Germany as a child, but still has a pronounced German accent. She also tans rather dark. She and her husband have spent their winters in Arizona for several years - I have to wonder whether they'll be going back. I wouldn't.
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time4change2009
08:44 AM on 04/28/2010
Until politics, which has delayed addressing this issue for decades, goes into effect to solve this horrific problem (new law), We The People will NOT sit idly by awaiting. There ARE things that The People can do...and organized boycotts can be very effective. Ask Ghandi or Dr. Martin Luther King.
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Christine Pelosi
Author, Campaign Boot Camp 2.0
09:27 AM on 04/28/2010
Agreed .... see first sentence of last paragraph in post. What type of boycott are you thinking? Blanket ban or would you shield certain businesses or behaviors and target others?
08:43 AM on 04/28/2010
Can someone please explain exactly what immigration reform is? Is it merely giving amnesty to the illegal aliens already here? Do we need to do this or just enforce the laws we already have?

While I appreciate Ms. Pelosi's article, I somewhat (embarrassingly) agree with Tancredo's wanting some sort of penalty for sanctuary cities. In the past few years, both NYC and San Francisco dealt with murders that could have been avoided had they not been sanctuary cities.
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Bishop Ioan Lightoller
11:01 AM on 04/28/2010
Good question, am10. What IS immigration reform? It looks to me as if it is an open door policy to let in whomever wishes to come in and the states most affected by it are just supposed to "suck it up". I get so tired of hearing the "social justice" whine. Why don't all the "social justice" types reimburse Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, etc. for all the social services provided to illegals in the way of health care, school lunches, prisons when they run afould of the law, etc. Oh no, let the gringo pay for it. I forgot--we're supposed to just let illegals in. Why is no one concerned that a rancher was killed down near the Mexico-Arizona border?

Arizonans are getting sick and tired of being dictated to in the matter of illegal immigrants. If the federal government will not do its job protecting its borders, Arizona will find a way.
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ESerafina42
Abandoned by wolves, raised by Republicans.
11:33 AM on 04/28/2010
Maybe Arizona and Texas can leave together and form their own country. Then see how well you do without *any* federal aid. Of course, that should solve your problem, because why should Mexicans want to go to a third world country?
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ESerafina42
Abandoned by wolves, raised by Republicans.
11:23 AM on 04/28/2010
I wouldn't claim to be an expert but as I understand it, *comprehensive* immigration reform is a combination of strategies, some of which include *not* outright amnesty but a path to citizenship involving meeting some pretty stringent requirements. Both John McCain (in his previous, sane incarnation) and George W. Bush favored it but were thwarted by their own party.

Certainly stepped up enforcement of the laws that already exist would be a good idea, but no one (especially a lot of the people who are screaming the loudest) wants to spend money. The company I work for just found out how well that works - try to do things on the cheap (i.e., send most of your jobs to India and leave a skeleton staff at home) and you end up spending *more* money to clean up the mess that results.

Right-wingers (I'm not saying you're one, am10!) also might want to consider St. Ronald Reagan. "He signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, which included stepped up border enforcement and sanctions against employers who knowingly hire illegal workers. But that legislation also legalized 2.8 million undocumented workers." (http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=2705)
07:30 AM on 04/28/2010
This has to be stopped now.. Ohio is now considering this..You know how the danes stopped the Nazis. By all citizens wearing a yellow arm band, like in V for vendetta ,when all wore the guy fawkes mask, they all banded together , wore yellow arm bands...It took he power away from the Nazis and it worked.. Wear something yellow ,put yellow in your yard,if you dont want to wear a armband..
07:26 AM on 04/28/2010
While I appluad your sincere efforts to find some room for dialog, I think you underestimate what the laws proponents want. They want Latino's to go away! They want their state to be as white as possible, they are not tolerant, they are not open to dialog. I understand some of their fears although I don't agree with them. I am not a fan of any type of amnesty at all. I strongly believe that you get no free pass just because you are here in large numbers and you do so called low wage work. Illegal is illegal. However stopping people because of their looks is so far out of the norm, so far past constitutional intent it boggles the mind. Arizona must be forced to change this law or we will continue to slide down the slippery slope. Also the oldest Americans are indeed the native Americans not the Latinos'/Hispanics.
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ennis438
07:11 AM on 04/28/2010
I respect your opinion, but I am in a fighting mood. I am tired of this right wing extremism that is destroying our American dream by disposing of the Constitution. These people are trying to bring Nazi terrorism to America, and they are winning. They lie to Americans (The Alaskan Barbie most notible), stand beside domestic corporate terrorism destroying the middle class (example is Massey Energy), and the other side just stands in amazement doing nothing. It is about time we feed them the exact same medicine. This Governor of Arizona had a choice to make. She choose the Nazi's over our (and her) Constitution. She chose the Sarah Palin loonies vs. the American middle class. How much longer do you suggest we try your way? We have tried doing nothing and the Nazism gets worse all the time. In my opinion, we need to teach this state a lesson. If they want Hitler as their new hero, that is their right, BUT it is our right to oppose this choice. I fully intend to stay away from Arizona, and hope all the people who respect our Founding Fathers and our Constitution to do the exact same thing. I honestly feel that Washington, Jefferson and all the others would agree with me. This destruction of America MUST END NOW.
06:20 AM on 04/28/2010
Arizona has all republican congress and gov elected by the people ..This bill, hunting down brown people like dogs ,is the conservative family values thinking...The people will not elect kinder people , people who know we all deserve human rights,in office until they , like the klan ,see this is not acceptable ....Thus a boycott ..It worked when they refused to honor King..Force the klan out..
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Marla Turner
05:37 AM on 04/28/2010
You raise some interesting points, things which I seriously considered before making the decision to help build a large-scale boycott of Arizona. Although I had some concerns about possible innocent people being hurt by a boycott effort, I came to the conclusion that their silence in the weeks leading up to the bill's signature was a part of the problem.

Just because the bill was not a ballot vote does not mean the people were powerless. Where were their voices when the legislative debate was taking place? Where were the "thousands" of demonstrators BEFORE the bill was signed? Boycotting may harm some individuals but their unwillingness or their complacency or their timidness, or whatever it was, to fight this thing until it's defeat says to me that they bear some responsibility for this bill becoming law.
08:46 AM on 04/28/2010
Where were you for the past two decades when residents and law enforcement complained about being inundated at the border while Washington did nothing? Why was that acceptable complacency?
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Marla Turner
12:22 PM on 04/28/2010
Ummm, dealing with the same issue in my own state, thank you.
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Christine Pelosi
Author, Campaign Boot Camp 2.0
10:30 AM on 04/28/2010
@Maria, I'm glad to hear you considered the questions (some folks are upset I'm even asking them). What type of "large-scale" boycott are you thinking? Blanket ban or would you shield certain businesses or behaviors and target others?
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Marla Turner
01:19 PM on 04/28/2010
The boycott includes all state, county and city-governed operations and/or financed businesses. And yes, that includes the state's beloved Diamondbacks, as they are financed and managed by the city of Mesa. Also included: corporations headquartered in Arizona (a quick check will show you where the Arizona Republican Party and the Tea Party's Freedomworks got so much of their money), teams who conduct their baseball Spring Training there, companies who are still planning on holding their annual conventions in Arizona, and the tourism industry.

I DO feel for the porters and the security guards and the hotel desk staff, or anyone else who might be affected by reduced volume. But maybe the boycott is a way to get them roused up so that they join the call for their employers to step up and do the right thing.
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Christine Pelosi
Author, Campaign Boot Camp 2.0
04:15 AM on 04/28/2010
UPDATE: 1am CA time and going to sleep now. In the morning, @bobbrigham has threatened to destroy my reputation if I don't take down this HuffPo piece.
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Hal Donahue
Concerned citizen tired of the lies
07:46 AM on 04/28/2010
Amazing how quickly fringes can turn into fascists whether right or left. I found that out when I proudly supported Senator Casey.
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mabinog
My micro-bio is a desolate wasteland
03:45 AM on 04/28/2010
A Hispanic man born in CA has already been profiled, and when he could not produce a birth certificate was arrested and taken to ICE. His wife had to take time off work, go home, get their birth certificates and go get her US citizen husband released.