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Christine Pelosi

Christine Pelosi

Posted: November 24, 2010 08:50 AM

They keep coming. We just stopped them at the ballot box, but they keep coming. We have stopped them in the courts, but they keep coming. We have stopped them in our communities, but they keep coming. They are the anti-immigrants. Their latest act: the Son of SB 1070 -- a ballot measure for February 2012 to bring Arizona's divisive anti-immigrants law to California. They keep coming and they must be stopped.

No sooner had Senator Barbara Boxer and Governor Jerry Brown led a statewide sweep for Democrats than tea party Republicans took out papers to attempt by proposition what they failed by candidate. What lies ahead is a costly, multimillion dollar ballot fight designed by anti-immigrants to divide families, communities, and coalitions.

Californians will reject Son of SB 1070 because we know it is necessary to work together to secure our borders, keep families together, protect our workers, and grow our economy. We know that it is time to end "don't ask, don't tell" in immigration by providing a path to legalization for millions living in the shadows, and that is why we elected federal legislators to work on a national solution. 85 percent of Democrats, 68 percent of Republicans and 74 percent of voters registered as "Decline-to-state" overwhelmingly support the DREAM Act for immigrant children and just rejected extremist candidates who don't. Communities of color -- Asian Americans, African Americans, and Latinos -- voted overwhelmingly for candidates who support immigrants and will defeat Son of SB 1070.

The anti-immigrants know they can't win through candidates, which is why they are circulating the initiative. They know California voters reject scapegoating so in Orwellian fashion they named themselves -- wait for it -- 'Support Immigration' to induce you, supermarket shopper, into signing Son of SB 1070. Don't buy what they're peddling. The anti-immigrants say they are merely enforcing federal laws like E-verify. Well they don't need to change California law in order to implement federal law. They say they are not anti-immigrant, just anti-illegal immigrant -- but tell that to the families they are ripping apart. Tell that to Meg Whitman's former housekeeper, who was kicked to the curb when she asked for help in attaining legal status. Tell that to the farm workers who form the backbone of California's agricultural economy. Tell that to the DREAM Act kids who came here as babies and are working hard, playing by the rules, and striving for a better life and a chance to contribute to society. Tell that to the millions of Latino voters who were urged by the GOP "don't vote" -- a move that backfired so completely that Democrats across the West stopped the red tide at the Rockies, and California Republicans risk losing immigrant voters for generations.

They say they have won before -- but we are a different state demographically and politically now than we were when when Pete Wilson brought Prop 187 to the ballot box with his version of "they keep coming" as evidenced by the decisive voter rejection of his candidate Meg Whitman.

So if you're a California voter reading this, and you see a petition gatherer from "Support Immigration" kindly let them know that you do support immigration which is why you'll decline to sign Son of SB 1070. Tell the anti-immigrants you know they are trying to drive a wedge among Californians, and that you refuse to be divided by race. Tell them you just rejected extremist tea party Republicanism in November, and see no need to undermine your vote. Tell them you understand that what Arizona passed out of policy frustration, California must not pass as political retribution. And when the anti-immigrants qualify for the ballot, join the vast majority of Californians who support fair and humane approaches to immigration in defeating Son of SB 1070.

 

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carolr51
02:15 PM on 11/30/2010
I guess that we can't even hope that they will fail in getting the signatures they need. Too many people just don't pay enough attention to even know what they are doing. I am always very careful about signing any of those petitions, and I wish everyone else would be, too, and that they would be aware that the wording on some of these propositions is very misleading.
08:42 AM on 12/01/2010
I am going to sign it and vote for it.
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carolr51
09:58 AM on 12/01/2010
I doubt that it will pass in California. Maybe you would be happier living in AZ, or Alabama?
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LogicalMathMan
Math, Finance, English, Business Instructor
01:23 AM on 11/27/2010
The can try....just ask Meg Whitman, Valero and Soco how that worked out for them.
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FTracy3
My micro-bio is as empty as the rest of my life.
12:53 PM on 11/26/2010
Are they anti-immigrant or anti-illegal immigration? To honestly answer the question, ask yourself, are they actively working toward or secretly hoping that all legal immigrants leave the country ASAP? I love the hijacking of the language from the left..it's rarely about the issue, it's always framed as an attack on the people affected by the issue. Not for redefining marriage? You're anti-gay. Want to do something to keep Social Security solvent? You're anti-senior. Oppose Obamacare? You hate kids, the poor, and cancer patients.
08:20 PM on 11/26/2010
They are anti-immigrant, and more specifically, anti-Hispanic, don’t kid yourself. Their cries about illegal immigrants is just a way to show their aggression openly (and hate by some) in a now socially acceptable manner. They know their targets are mostly Hispanics in general, legal and illegal, US-born and foreign-born (again, don’t kid yourself if you think otherwise).

Despite all that hate going around, Hispanics are taking an increasingly more active role in the political process (e.g., http://www.hispanosunidos.us ). Their results are now shaping the political process in big ways (if in doubt, ask Meg Whitman).
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RodgzK
04:52 PM on 12/02/2010
This is the kind of simplistic view of a very complex issues that inhibits our ability to have and intelligent dialog on immigration. There are many valid social, economic and ecological reason to oppose illegal immigration and they have nothing to do with anti-Hispanic attitudes. The Arizona law and it imitators, as misguided as they might be, have risen from a tremendous feeling of frustration brought on by years of federal inaction on a very thorny problem. In an era of limited resources with which to address issues such as health care, education and employment for those legally in this country we need to careful to avoid attacking straw men and inflammatory rhetoric, Neither contribute to a solution to a problem we would all like to see solved.
10:23 AM on 11/26/2010
This isn't about "immigrants" this is about ILLEGAL ALIENS. There is a big difference. We cannot contiue to pay BILLIONS to educate and provide health care for ILLEGAL ALIENS.
We need to HEAVILY fine those who hire ILLEGALS so that the jobs for them would dry up and they would self-deport.
The CA version of SB1070 will take care of that.
We need to purge our state of the MILLIONS of ILLEGAL ALIENS who are sucking our systems dry. We need to provide for our own CITIZENS and LEGAL immigrants. ILLEGAL ALIENS need to go back to their own countries. Christine why don't you go with them and make those countries take care of their own so that they don't come over here ILLEGALLY?
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
10:02 PM on 11/28/2010
Agreed ~

California has a 12.4% unemployment rate of legal American Citizens ~ and is harboring 2.2 million illegal scabs taking California citizens' jobs

Hopefully, the CA version of SB1070, will also contain one of the same provisions as AZ SB 1070 as amended by HB 2162, that was upheld by the Courts ~

Being the abolishment of all Sanctuary Status by municipalities & counties

The U.S. has nearly 10% unemployment rate of American Citizens = 16 million Americans out of work, facing nearly 6 million home foreclosures ~

All the while, there are over 11 million illegal scabs working in the U.S.. taking Americans' jobs
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UC Sanity
03:21 AM on 12/02/2010
Scabs?!
Immigrants are always scapegoated in times of crisis, documented or undocumented.
The immigration system is broken and outdated, but Arizona's law is unabashed discrimination, the chiefs of police were against it as it puts them in an awkward position.
We can't have every state or group taking immigration into their own hands, the high unemployment rate is largely from millions of jobs being shipped overseas, not immigrants coming in and stealing them from the hardworking white Americans.
06:16 AM on 12/08/2010
But I thought much of this country was their country before it was stolen from them, e.g., Ca, Nev, Tx, Co, N.M., Az, et al. Oh that's right they don't teach you that in U.S. text books. The only legitimate U.S. citizens are the Native Americans. Hmmm, I wonder what happened to them? Where do your ancestors come from? EXACTLY! Do you even know how to correctly pronounce the many cities and states of this country? I didn't think so.
08:47 AM on 12/15/2010
How did we steal it?
Oh, that's right we didn't - that is just your excuse for the ILLEGAL ALIENS that are invading our country.
BTW I am a CA native and I can pronounce all the names of the cities and states of this country.
Get a new mantra - this one isn't working.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:36 AM on 11/25/2010
Most people are angry because our government just won’t stop lying to us.
And before any one gets upset, that is GOP and DEM governments, it is both sides.
Maybe if our laws on immigration were enforced for a while, we would not like them and want them changed. But what we know we don’t like is being played for fools by our own government.

We were told in 1986 under the Simpson-Mazzoli Act,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986
that if we just legalized the illegals, then no more would come, how did that work out?
We were told in 1986 that if we would agree to grant amnesty, then the federal government would enforce our immigration laws and all future immigration would be legal, and all these years latter they still refuse to do it. We legalized 4 million and 15 million more came!

The DEMs say “if we just knew who was employing these workers we would fine themâ€
The GOPs say “if we just knew where the illegals were we would deport themâ€.

Both DEM and GOP Governments knew we had 15 million illegal workers in this country, they KNOW where almost each and every one is employed, they KNOW who is employing almost every one and their employers MAILING ADDRESS. They play us for complete fools! And we are tired of it!

You don’t believe that?
Read our own government website:

http://www.ssa.gov/employer/noMatchNotices.htm
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
08:41 AM on 11/25/2010
Heavy enforcement of immigration law will cost more than Obamacare. That's what happens when you spend thirty years looking the other way and then decide to ramp up enforcement because you're angry.
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Alwayspissedoffatsomeone
Fighting for Common Sense
10:45 AM on 11/25/2010
Do you know what a lifeboat is? Do you understand the whole concept of it?
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:04 PM on 11/25/2010
That is just silly, it would cost very little to make E-Verify mandatory. They came for jobs on their own, if there are no jobs for them they will leave on their own!

The first step to getting Americans employed is to fully implement E-Verify and make it mandatory nationwide. That would create between 6 and 15 MILLION jobs for Americans tomorrow. The last stimulus package cost 800 Billion and “saved or created†2 million jobs. Fully implementing E-Verify would only cost a few million and create at least 6 million jobs for Americans. It is already in place and working, making it mandatory would cost very little and create millions of jobs for Americans who would spend the money here and not send it out of the country.

E-Verify is an Internet-based system operated by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) in partnership with the Social Security Administration.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Verify
10:25 AM on 11/26/2010
If we HEAVILY fine those who hire ILLEGALS the jobs for them would dry up and they would self-deport.
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Alwayspissedoffatsomeone
Fighting for Common Sense
11:46 PM on 11/24/2010
The vast majority of the nation's population wants illegal immigration stopped. Fact. They are'nt against immigration, rather against illegal immigration. Big difference, Ms. Pelosi. "They " are the American public, Ms. Pelosi and "they" want this nation's borders secure.
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
08:41 AM on 11/25/2010
Sorry, the vast majority of the US population is neither racist nor xenophobic, although those two groups are able to mobilize a lot of calls to Congress.
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Alwayspissedoffatsomeone
Fighting for Common Sense
10:43 AM on 11/25/2010
"Sorry, the vast majority of the US population is neither racist nor xenophobic, although those two groups are able to mobilize a lot of calls to Congress." -- soul

It's not a question of race but rather one of security. It's hard for you folks to comprehend, but it's true.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:06 PM on 11/25/2010
You cannot reasonably say the country that admits more legal immigrants THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH, every year, is in any way “anti-immigrant†or "racist" or "xenophobic"!

They HAVE a legal option.

They can go home and apply at our embassy, IN THEIR OWN country, just like the million immigrants who get citizenship here every year did.
We let in more people every year that any other country on earth, all we ask is that they respect our country and it’s laws.
What is “unfair†or “racist†about that?

If they refuse to follow our laws, let them stay home in their own country or apply for citizenship in a country whose laws they will follow.
10:22 PM on 11/24/2010
A principal motivator of these anti-immigrant initiatives is the sale of private prison space. One should just follow the money in countering them. Someone out there in CA should look to see which political operatives who are promoting the initiatives are also taking money from Geo Group, the largest private prison corporation in the US (and probably the world). I suspect that these matters have more to do with kickbacks and CA politicians benefiting from service to corporate masters than with xenophobia.
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mansterEZ
searching for secular humanist fact-based truth
08:55 PM on 11/24/2010
I have personally reported 100s of undocumented immigrants to ICE who hold legitimate jobs that other citizens want badly. As of today no action has been taken in 18 months since my first report and follow-ups fall on deaf ears. What does it take for ICE to do its' due diligence?

Very frustrating.
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demar
09:15 PM on 11/24/2010
Better to invest in Mexico and create high paying jobs on the other side of the border.
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08:32 PM on 11/24/2010
Since California's so against the softball Arizona anti-illegal immigration law, then have them move to the Golden State and their taxpayers can pay for their services. Pull every dollar California contributes to the Feds and let them fund themselves at $40 million a week.
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demar
09:23 PM on 11/24/2010
California only gets 85 cents on the dollar return on federal tax dollars. We'll take it back.
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
08:44 AM on 11/25/2010
If the blue states seceded from the red states, the blue states would benefit tremendously.
02:16 PM on 11/25/2010
Actually not really. Transportation would cost more since you are going through a foreign country since most of the middle of the country would be "red" and don't forget most coal, oil and natural gas come from red states and almost every oil refineries are in red states. California had bad power issues now, imagine after the had to get much of their power from "red" states.
08:31 PM on 11/24/2010
There are several other states that have similar bills. Look what happened to Bush when he tried amnesty. Even blue states are tired of this and John Q. Public will soon have their voice.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:22 PM on 11/25/2010
"Even blue states are tired of this and John Q. Public will soon have their voice."

I think you are correct!

Vast majorities of American support Arizona’s law including HALF OF ALL DEMOCRATES!

“Sixty-one percent of Americans — and 64 percent of registered voters — said they favored the law in a survey of 1,016 adults conducted May 6-9.â€

“Strikingly, nearly half of Democrats like the law, under which local law enforcement officers are tasked with verifying people's immigration status if they suspect them of being in the country illegally. While the Democratic Party generally is regarded as more sympathetic to illegal immigrants' plights, 46 percent of Democrats said they favored the law for Arizona and 49 percent said they'd favor the law's passage in their own states.â€

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700031919/National-poll-on-Arizona-immigration-law-echoes-Utahs-results.html

MSNBC (not rightwing) and Chris Mathews (not rightwing) reported that 60% of Americans approve of this law or want it stronger.

Here is the poll he was quoting:

CBS News/New York Times (not rightwing) poll on AZ new Immigration Law:

It goes “to far†- 34%
It is “about right†- 51%
Should be stronger - 9%
Don’t know – 4%

Here is the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20004030-503544.html
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demar
07:51 PM on 11/24/2010
This ballot issue is a dog whistle to call the racists that were defeated in the last election in California.
Sorry Tea par-tiers, but California is moving in another direction.
08:32 PM on 11/24/2010
It sure is moving in another direction!!
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demar
09:07 PM on 11/24/2010
A better outlet for channeling anger is to support the labor movement. The best thing you can do is to promote democracy in the workplace. Divisive issues like immigration policy dilute the the fight against the real enemy, corporatism.
charles77
Just the Facts Please
12:54 PM on 11/25/2010
Yes the DEMs did win in CA.

But what you don't seem to realize is HALF of all DEMs nationwide support laws like this.
Maybe the DEMs in CA are different than DEMs nationwide, we will see.

“Strikingly, nearly half of Democrats like the law, under which local law enforcement officers are tasked with verifying people's immigration status if they suspect them of being in the country illegally. While the Democratic Party generally is regarded as more sympathetic to illegal immigrants' plights, 46 percent of Democrats said they favored the law for Arizona and 49 percent said they'd favor the law's passage in their own states.â€

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700031919/National-poll-on-Arizona-immigration-law-echoes-Utahs-results.html

"dog whistle to call the racists" that is a sad statement to make.
You statement implies Half of all DEMs and 60% of all Americans are "racists".
I think even you know that is false. Illegal is not a race.

CBS News/New York Times (not rightwing) poll on AZ new Immigration Law:

It goes “to far†- 34%
It is “about right†- 51%
Should be stronger - 9%
Don’t know – 4%

Here is the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20004030-503544.html
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demar
03:02 PM on 11/25/2010
It may be sad but it is true and the backers of this proposition are out to try and generate another wedge issue. I'm not surprised to hear the statistics that you quote. Reagan Democrats are all about race.
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NABNYC
07:51 PM on 11/24/2010
Don't be surprised if we learn that this entire "movement" is being financed by the Chamber of Commerce which wants to create the impression that there is an immigration "crisis," of national significance, so they can push through the "comprehensive immigration reform" that they want.

The fact is that we already have a comprehensive immigration system, and it does not need any major reform. It works pretty well other than when millions of people try to sneak across our borders because, for example, nafta eradicated all their farms and left them with nothing. In other words, we've been through strange times but that's no reason to throw out all the laws. What we should do is enforce the borders and come up with an amnesty procedure for the long-term illegal residents.

What the Chamber of Commerce wants is to have the laws changed to say that any business can import as many foreign workers as they want at any time. That's their goal. If they create the perception of a crisis, they will have an easier time slipping this through Congress.

By the way: I think we should halt any foreign worker program until our own unemployment is down to 3%. And businesses should have no involvement whatsoever in our immigration system.
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08:10 PM on 11/24/2010
"what we should do is enforce the borders and come up with an amnesty procedure for the long-term illegal residents."
****** Been there, done that. It didn't work. No amnesty and start enforcing the laws on the books. There are parts of our society with long term unemployment. These people need jobs. If the time comes that we need more people we can increase legal immigration.
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
08:46 AM on 11/25/2010
Total enforcement is a big government handout to racists and xenophobes.
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Hal Donahue
Concerned citizen tired of the lies
07:45 PM on 11/24/2010
" 2tango 18 minutes ago (6:44 PM) ... Hal, that's a grotesque excuse, and you know it. "

Sure I do BUT that is my point. Very few things are black and white. Like the conservative 'welfare mom', extreme examples serve to polarize. We need to find solutions. You may not like the answer nor will I but we are moving. Instead, reactionary conservatives stop change and aggravate problems, immigration is a classic example, no solution means things get worse and you support it.
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10:08 PM on 11/24/2010
Hal, don't tell me what "black Or white" is, I'm an immigrant myself, and all this advocacy against the immigration laws is incesting more violations.
Nobody is above the laws, and please don't portrait youself like an apostol of truth and rights.
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
08:49 AM on 11/25/2010
If you aren't a recent immigrant from Mexico or the Philippines, you are no more credible to speak on this issue than Lou Dobbs. Don't portray yourself like you understand the issues facing illegal immigrants if you got waved through the process because of education, money, race, or connections.
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krazykyote
Why Ike, what ever do you mean?
07:38 PM on 11/24/2010
Controlled immigration is a good thing. The biggest problem facing not only California but many other states as well, is the uncontrolled migration that is going on now.

There is no assimilation and therefore you have these pockets in communities that can't function outside of the pockets. It is fracturing cities.

Being against illegal immigration is not tantamount to demonizing the people who are just trying to provide a better life for themselves. But at whose expense?
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
08:50 AM on 11/25/2010
If we want assimilation, then why don't we provide a path to citizenship?
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12:15 PM on 11/25/2010
I agree, a path to citizenship should be provided, for legal immigration.
I do however think we should consider something for the children of parents who came here illegally with very strict provisions such as a grandfather clause to discourage further illegal immigrants.
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Doug Watt
Not ready for 2012
03:17 PM on 11/25/2010
Would you post a link for me that gives some stats on this uncontrolled immigration you mentioned? Thanks in advance.
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
05:35 PM on 11/25/2010
I'd like to see the argument that "they" aren't assimilating backed up too. Also, let's see a credible argument for this idea that immigrants destroy more American lives proportionally than do native born US citizens.
06:11 PM on 11/24/2010
This issue is being hyped by the corporations who stand to benefit from incarcerating illegals in for profit prisons. This is after these people were lured here by other corporations looking to make a profit from their cheap labor and inability to protest poor working conditions. I'd like to hear what plan the anti-amnesty people have for removing all of the people who are currently here illegally. How are we going to do that? What exactly does that look like? What will it cost?

The DREAM act at least lets us deal realistically with one aspect of the problem. Lets get these kids who were brought here and who have worked hard academically, or are willing to serve this country in the military, let's give them a path out of the shadows.
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07:22 PM on 11/24/2010
Did the people who are illegal come here on their own not knowing that they were breaking the law ? Did they get false documentation not knowing that was against the law ? If you sneak across the border into another country with your children are they the responsibility of that country or yours, the parents ? If the employers are fined and jailed they will go back to their countries the same way they got here, on their own.
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07:45 PM on 11/24/2010
MAH999, Not only do illegal immigrants take jobs away from legal American citizens they also run companies that hire legal Americans out of business because they can not compete with the low wages and no benefits. For agriculture, the Agriculture Department used to have a guest worker program but that either doesn't exist anymore or there are so many illegals it is not being used. Canada enforces their immigration laws and they also have guest workers for agriculture but don't seem to have the problems this country does. Their guest workers go home after the work is done. Our government has refused to enforce the laws and Americans have suffered just as they have with outsourcing American jobs to foreign countries. I am for the Hispanic American, Asian American, Black American and White American and any other I missed. Its time we stood up for the American people. If you disagree I am listening, please tell me why.
07:49 PM on 11/24/2010
Exactly. Nobody bought them a bus ticket here and they can pay their own freight home.
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GregHooper
what is this
11:08 PM on 11/24/2010
If you can afford a Coyote to get here you can afford a Greyhound home

Take the reasons for being here and they will make the decision to return Just the same way they made the decision to come

Economics

And if the left would ever figure out that there wil be no amnesty and stop telling these people that all you have to do is show up and we will give you a US Passport

Then people illegaly in the country will make the decision to return home

The left needs to take a good look at the state of affairs withe local citizens before it considers giving away 10-15 million new US Passports

BTW illegal is not a race its a crime punishable by deportation or jail time so lets get on with it
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Soule23
Anti-micro-biol
12:47 PM on 11/25/2010
Someone who hates immigrants is not a racist, but a xenophobe.