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Signs He's Never Going to Marry You (And Why You Should Thank Him)

Posted: 07/14/2012 12:17 pm

You've been dating for a year or two (or three) and keep fending off the "so when are you two going to get married" question from well-meaning friends and family. You are sure you've found The One... but have you? Sometimes, after so many years together, you assume he has to be. That's what I thought. I remember my ridiculous assumption that my old boyfriend, a man I was in love with, would one day marry me. He eventually broke up with me, and frankly, I'd like to thank him for it.

I jokingly brought this up with two girlfriends recently; we were all listing ex-boyfriends that, had they proposed, we would have accepted. We shuddered to think of the consequences. Rarely is the only problem in the relationship the fact that he hasn't proposed. Sometimes we get so focused on why he isn't choosing us instead of asking ourselves if he is really the right choice for us.

Let me be clear: not every woman spends hours pining to get married or pinning on her imaginary wedding Pinterest board. And not every guy goes to the altar kicking and screaming. Absolutely not. But there are lots of women in dysfunctional relationships who think the only problem is he hasn't proposed. These women can waste years with a guy who is never going to marry them.

Some women need the validation of the proposal more than an actual wedding. There is something about being chosen, even if it's not by the right guy, that has women clinging to relationships everyone else can see are going nowhere. Last year, Jennifer Gauvain, a clinical social worker and author, released her finding that "30 percent of divorced women knew they were marrying the wrong guy on their wedding day." As Gauvain said, "Getting engaged can be a triumph, and if he's the wrong guy, the high from the attention of the engagement can minimize that fact."

For the women in these relationships, there are signs. The hard part is not just seeing them, but heeding them. Give thanks, get out and live your life without relying on a proposal to make you happy. Life isn't black and white, but if you have some doubts, these are indicators that he's not in a place to marry you. It's not about him not loving you; it's about him not wanting to marry you. And you'll thank him years from now for not doing it.

1. He's Evasive About the Future
It is generally not a good idea to discuss marriage and babies on the first date -- unless you're on "The Bachelorette" where these uncomfortable conversations are a requirement. But if you and your guy talk about jobs, careers, rent, trips, family and holidays, you should trust the relationship enough to discuss your future. Otherwise it becomes a vicious circle of neither of you bringing it up while the woman is silently waiting for something to change. This just causes more doubt and uneasiness. You'll be surprised how this type of discussion isn't so scary or difficult with the right guy.

2. He Wants to Be More Successful, More Financially Secure
There is intense pressure for men to be the breadwinner. Even though most women I know are successful professionals, it's understandable that most men want to know they can provide for their wife and family. While there is a time and place to focus on a career or education, to constantly hear "I'm not in a place to marry anyone right now" is confusing and frustrating. It keeps a relationship in perpetual limbo. Also, it repeatedly tells the woman that this decision isn't hers. Instead it is when he is "ready." Who really knows the hard times couples may face together in the future? Recognize that his resistance may be to marrying you.

3. He "Doesn't Know"
When my friend quit her job, moved to her boyfriend's city, moved in together and started looking at rings, she thought he was The One. So when months later she asked, "Do you want to marry me?" she was unprepared for his response of, "I don't know." If after living together, starting her life and career over, he still "didn't know," then deep down he did. If you feel confident you are with the man you want to marry and asking him elicits a half-hearted, non-committal answer -- realize what's really going on. No one should take marriage lightly, but at some point, you must lay all your cards on the table. What other information does he think he needs to know? When in doubt, direct questions often give you the right answer even if when it is "I don't know." It may not be what you want to hear, but it's the truth. (And my friend broke up with her boyfriend, moved back to her city, had a rough breakup year and then met her current husband).

4. He Can Only Talk about Weddings or Marriage While Being Sarcastic, Ironic or Snarky
Every chance he got, my ex-boyfriend made cynical, snarky remarks about marriage. I filed this under his edgy, non-conformist personality I liked. Now I see it as a glaring neon sign telling me it was never going to happen. I was convinced I could melt his cold, cynical heart. Maybe what I should have asked was did he want his heart melted? I made excuses for his behavior but took little responsibility for my own. He didn't want to get married, not then, and not to me. If I hadn't been trying to change his mind, I would have realized his mind was exactly where he wanted it to be. All that needed changing was my ability to see it.

Ultimately it's not about a wedding. It's not about the proposal story or a ring on your finger. It's about two people falling in love and wanting to build a life together. If you're deeply unhappy with someone but you think his proposal will change things, it won't. It will distract you from the real issues for a while, but they will still be there. Marriage can be a wonderful thing, but only if both parties are equally committed. Trust me, you don't want to talk someone into wanting to marry you. If he's giving you signs that he doesn't want to marry you, heed them. You'll thank him years from now.

 

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helenwiells
11:46 PM on 07/17/2012
After dating my future husband for six months or so, he startled me by asking, "What is it you want out of this relationship?" It was the first time in my life a man had been so blunt and I think I mumbled something stupid like "uh, just have fun and get to know you". Gaah. Well, it taught me to say "let me think about it" from then on, but it also showed me how important it is to ask what I call "the scary questions". Too often we are so afraid of what the answer might be, we avoid the question. He died three years ago. We had twenty beautiful years together and I sure do miss his honesty.
11:32 AM on 07/17/2012
"30 percent of divorced women knew they were marrying the wrong guy on their wedding day."

What does this say about the judgement/character of 30% of divorced women? Why did they use the guy for some lame ego trip by saying yes if they knew it wouldn't work? I wonder if those same women refused all financial support from their exes?
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Beth Horne
03:30 AM on 07/17/2012
There are some serious flaws in this article. My first husband and I dated for six months before he proposed, and we were married four weeks later because I was finishing the college year and he could get leave. I was only 18, thoughtt I loved him, but I really only knew what he had let me see. I was with him for a miserable 6 years, and had a daughter who lost out on having a decent father because he is such an emotionally damaged person. I only slept with him ONCE before we were married, and it turned out I was his first and he proposed tha next day. Wish I had known then what I know now. He married a horrible woman after me who refused to sleep with him until they married, and it has been a nightmare for all involved. My husband now is amazing, we did not live together until married, but spent every weekend together while maintaining seperate homes. I learned who he is and vice-versa, and we have been a couple for 5 years, tying the knot just this past June after purchasing a home together in March. He is not only my husband, my lover, but my best friend. Older and wiser now, I can say that taking your time is worth every minute of the wait! Love doesn't die, it only grows!
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missyinSoCal
He who laughs last probably didn't get the joke
01:29 AM on 07/17/2012
My husband's ex should read this article.. lol.. She tried for 10 YEARS to get him to put a ring on her finger. He and I got married 7 months after we met... He told her over the years that he was never going to marry her, but she stayed and hoped...and hoped... So she lost 10 years of her life for a man who TOLD her he'd never marry her. He was honest, but she had convinced herself that she could make him marry her... Ah well.
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11:01 PM on 07/16/2012
It's better to live alone then live in misery. However, when the right one comes along, you will know it and then it is great, 85% of the time, the other 15 % is work and frustration, but the good out weighs the bad and makes it all worth while.
11:33 AM on 07/17/2012
Yep. 31 years and counting, and we're both delighted.
10:45 PM on 07/16/2012
It's not always the man that is hesitant about marriage.

I for one took 5 yrs before my husband and I got married.

We have been married 10 yrs now
10:31 PM on 07/16/2012
What a bunch of neurotic navel gazing nonsense.
10:25 PM on 07/16/2012
From what I learned from my own parents, I will never legally marry anyone without signing a prenup first, why should I have to work 40+ hrs a week just to provide for someone else that doesn't want to be part of society and work themself, or have kids just so they can stay home and catch a free ride that I will never provide with my hard earned money. Theres more to enjoy in life than being a provider for someone else, plus I don't want to have to get permission to see my friends or leave for a few days and go up north fishing or to a friends place for the weekend, I need the privliage to be able to just get up and go when I want, I don't need a second boss, the one I deal with at work for 10 hrs a day is long enough, thank god I at least get paid for that time.
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fhmjam
10:00 PM on 07/16/2012
I been married one time to my now spouse of 38 years, and I will tell you this: Women are crazy and men are nuts. Throw love into the equation and it really gets complicated. You have a partner that you love and loves you? Then get married, cherish the hell out of each other, never get divorced (except for maybe 3-4 legitimate things) and have as much sex as the two of you enjoy.
06:32 PM on 07/16/2012
Novel idea: do not move in together until after the "I Do's".

If you have dated the same man, exclusivey, for over 3 months and he is not head over heels in love and begging you to marry him, move on. Ask any married man and he will tell you that he was already in love by the 2d or 3rd date, if not the first.

It isn't rocket science ladies, men aren't complicated beings.
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scoobe2
08:15 PM on 07/16/2012
hah i was thinking the same thing. a woman in my husbands office made this stupid move and is all po'd because she just turned thirty and still no ring. why should he when you are doing all the things a wife would do and he doesnt have to worry about being finacially bound to you. i had a friend who did the same thing, moved to another state and her boyfriend kept her waiting for over 3 yrs for a ring. your mom was right ladies, he's not gonna buy the cow if he is getting the milk burgers etc for free. a man has to be able to miss you to want you
10:48 PM on 07/16/2012
Ladies, men become complacent when they are with a woman who is willing to be the wife without the commitment of marriage. A man who loves you will marry you.  Don't move in, don't be the wife until you are the wife.  Otherwise, you just sell yourself short as if you are not quite  worthy of his committment of marriage.  You waste your time.
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artist5153
12:29 AM on 07/17/2012
My husband and I married after living together for more than a year (back in the 70s when it still was a sort of scandalous thing to do) and we've been married for 35 years. It isn't about whether he's "getting something"--it's about being right for each other and wanting to be together. At the time, it wasn't about "trying out" the marriage by living together--we just wanted to live together, so we did. We actually got married to appease our horrified parents (the "living in sin" thing was hard on them!) I would still be with him, piece of paper or not. And any man who would think of a woman as a cow to exploit is not somebody you want to marry. If a man doesn't want you, love you, you can do without him. Waiting to have sex so you can get him that way (does that even happen?) is nonsense.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
08:17 PM on 07/16/2012
Three months? You women haven't yet dropped the niceness mask and shown your true colors. Pushing for marriage after 90 days screams DESPERATE!

[typo]
06:32 PM on 07/16/2012
Sign #5: he died a few years ago
06:23 PM on 07/16/2012
A woman who's desperate for a legal contract to keep someone around is one to stay away from.
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scoobe2
08:16 PM on 07/16/2012
and this is why you are single. committment phobe
09:42 PM on 07/17/2012
Actually I'm single since most women these days are either fat, useless, or used up baby mammas.
KadyFox
My Crow. Bye, Yo'
11:19 PM on 07/16/2012
Faved! I don't understand why a piece of paper is so important to some people. If you want to be together, paper won't change that. Do you love the person? Are you happy together? Do you get along? Years after being together, do you still get butterflies when he comes home from work? If you want paper, buy a notebook.
03:55 AM on 07/17/2012
Hey KadyFox! I Agree with you somewhat on this. It is very true that a piece of paper won't change (or should I say shouldn't change) how U feel about each other unless U have some other motive behind wanting 2 B with that person. My boyfriend & I have been together for 11 yrs. as of this Aug.. Yes, He'd brought up marriage once or twice but I'd sayed 2 him not 2 bring it up again unless he planned on following thru with it. I was never one of those girls who wanted 2 B married by a certain age & have a litter of kids by another age (which neither of us have/want/or can afford even if we did want children). I didn't want 2 get my hopes up if it wasn't going 2 happen. The only thing that he has that I'd like 2 have as well is medical/dental coverage. I worry for another reason because I'd ruin his credit from very expensive hospital bills I've acquired. We obviously have similar interests or we wouldn't still be together. Maybe one day the fairy-tale will happen but until then I'll be happy that we have & take care of each other as best we can.
11:20 AM on 07/17/2012
thats just dumb, there is paperwork so when the woman cheats on her hubby, which they all do, (especially in a no fault divorce state) she gets 17% of his income to lay on the sofa and talk about how unfair life is to women
06:23 PM on 07/16/2012
At a somewhat "advanced" age, I've learned a few things: Men are like buses. One comes by every ten minutes. Also, you've got to treat men like dirt and they'll love you for it. Strange but true.
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
08:18 PM on 07/16/2012
This bus will pass your stop and not look back. Strange but true.
12:11 PM on 07/17/2012
Spoken just like a guy.
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lori279187
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
08:19 PM on 07/16/2012
"you've got to treat men like dirt and they'll love you for it. Strange but true."

Isn't that the weirdest thing? The crappier you are the happier they are. They will argue this point ad naseum, but it is TRUE.
10:20 PM on 07/16/2012
Only if he's a wimp in the first place.
11:20 AM on 07/17/2012
sure, if it's "fun stuff"
06:01 PM on 07/16/2012
I wish people stopped thinking there were guide lines to things like this because ringa ding ding not all people, men and women alike, are exactly the same. There is no cookie cutter plan for life, and whatever plan you do make or have is just an illusion developed to make you more comfortable and kept under control. My fellow ladies, please, don't buy this BS. Love your significant other, whether it's your boyfriend or girlfriend. Don't worry about the future and don't wish for the future to happen. You can be independent of these situations and you can be a woman and live to be completely and utterly awesome. Reject social constructs, reject the notion of inequality, be the awesome human being you were born to be whether you chose to be a housewife or whatever else you want to be. Be awesome, stay awesome. Down with cookie cutter recipes for living life and reading other people. And that goes for both sexes.
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gloria austin
05:42 AM on 07/17/2012
Would you please consider doing a motivational speaking tour, because there are some folks around here who still believe in quashing the aspirations of "pushy women." You say to reject social constructs and inequality -- where do you live, San Francisco? I tried the whole be-an-awesome-individual routine. Know what it got me? Nothing -- no husband, no children, no like-minded friends, no boss who wants me to be better, no no and no. You are right about one thing, people are not all alike. Sad in Indiana.
12:26 PM on 07/17/2012
Assuming things about me is going to get you nothing as well. And by awesome I don't mean fit in. You will find someone who likes you. If a husband and a kid is all you want then go get a husband and a kid, if that's what makes you happy and makes you feel like an individual then go for it. And as far as like-minded friends go, maybe it's those friends who have a problem. Even then I think having friends from different ends of certain spectrums is actually a very healthy thing, because that's the way the world is. However, that shouldn't mean that women should be treated as second class citizens that are always suspicious of men. At the end of the day though, if you think acting like someone who is less than others will get you what you want then all you're doing is feeding the cookie cutter factory.
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Right Whale
05:14 PM on 07/16/2012
If he says that he wants to enjoy his life and be in control of it?
RealistBC
Micro-bios must pass muster.
09:02 PM on 07/16/2012
She will ensure that he will realize neither.