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Cliff Schecter

Posted: December 17, 2010 01:02 PM

Guns of Christmas Future

What's Your Reaction:

Clearly, there's a lot of anger in America right now.

Much of it justified, as some can afford shower curtain rings that would dwarf others' weekly wages (and the latter are the ones who are lucky enough to have jobs). When you take this fact, combine it with the Orwellian "Newspeak" so pervasive in our media (which David Neiwert has written so articulately about), and multiply that by the NRA's mission to fight for the rights of criminals, the mentally ill and even terrorists to have access to guns, you have a toxic stew, ready to erupt.

Scene: Panama City, Florida. A school board meeting is interrupted by a man with a criminal record of assault (with a gun) waving a gun, and furious that his wife lost her job, his benefits have run out and the board members were unwilling to raise sales taxes so she and others like her wouldn't be fired (it should be noted that reports are still sketchy, so not all of what he says about his wife and himself during the five minutes when the board members try and talk him down can be confirmed yet).

We don't yet know where he got his gun -- but we do know his criminal record and history of mental illness made it illegal for him obtain a gun of any kind. We also know that you can walk into a gun show in many states, such as Virginia, and buy any weapon, no background check necessary. The Governor of Virginia thinks that this is a-ok. No matter that everyone from members of Hezbollah to the Columbine killers to the Pentagon shooter got their guns in this manner.

Apparently, to make an omelette, you have to shoot a few eggs.

So the gun lobby marches on: Much harm, no foul.

The NRA has spent years trying to destroy and delegitimize the ATF, such that nobody has been leading this important law enforcement agency for the past 4 years. Why? Because they try and track where guns come from when they kill people. Crazy. right?

And of course we know that we are creating our very own Bonus Army, as millions are filled with despair and anxiety as we give them a pittance while extending tax cuts for people who make Richie Rich look like Oliver Twist.

So is this our future? Videos of killers wielding illegal guns and holding innocent people hostage -- or worse. Reality TV, gone very, very wrong.

Unless/until we decide that gun safety, economic equality, and preventing pundits from inciting riot/slandering whole groups of people on air are reforms worth fighting for. Stay tuned on this one. In the meantime, sadly, I can promise you one thing: Many mini-revolutions such as this will be televised.

And it will be ugly.

 

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02:43 AM on 01/01/2011
May 2011 bring sanity to this country. We need not lose 13,000 Americans to murder by gun use this year. Guns are for a well regulated militia not for individual use. This year lets stop the slaughter of our children.
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mick e
Poor Mitt...He;s got a silver foot in his mouth
08:59 AM on 12/21/2010
Have we as a nation become numb to the chilling stories of "A mentally disturbed person goes on a rampage with a gun" news accounts? The places that were once considered sanctuaries, are no longer safe. Schools, churches, and the streets, once places we could frequent without a second thought, have become dangerous. As a citizen, I would like to know that anybody who owns a weapon, does so legally.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
10:29 AM on 12/21/2010
How do you propose to accomplish that?

Do you think that criminals will oblige you?
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OdinsEye
Korean-Latino cop and combat vet
09:21 PM on 12/21/2010
"The places that were once considered sanctuarie­s, are no longer safe. "

Many of them have been declared "gun free zones". Hasn't helped.
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sloppybear16
"Dare we live, without molds"
11:33 PM on 12/18/2010
If those behind the bench were packing heat, they would have had nothing to worry about. It took an ex-cop who was carrying to bring this thing to an end. There is no reason why they should have had to wait.
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10:42 AM on 12/19/2010
"If those behind the bench were packing heat . . ."

Or someone in the audience. Or the lady who tried to stop him with her purse.

Let's call "gun-free" zones what they really are: criminal empowerment zones.
12:15 PM on 12/19/2010
sad to say that many people will not admit that gun control increases crime by empowering criminals by shifting the balance of power to the criminals
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sloppybear16
"Dare we live, without molds"
04:14 PM on 12/19/2010
Well said
10:05 PM on 12/18/2010
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southrnlyfe
08:02 PM on 12/18/2010
So many things wrong with this article, where to start? First, the NRA does not fight for the crazies or just anyone to own firearms. They fight for legal, law abiding, non criminal, American citizens, because it is a right our founders believed we should have. Here are some gun stats......
..http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp
Secondly, in Virginia, a person can not just buy a hand gun. You may not need a permit to purchase, but you have to pass a background check. I know this is cliche, but guns ki ll people. Those who want to harm another person will do so, by any means.
Third, Mr. dukes, was a progressive, on his facebook he spoke of class warfare, he spoke of liberal sites like mediamatters, and 9-11 truther. He was not a right wing n ut. But we will never hear about those things, just like cliff decided not to write about it. But he will call for "mini-revolutions", and tell us to scared of the big bad rich people that are coming to take all your money. Class war-fare is what these guys are pushing.
Most Americans are good people, and those that own guns legally are not the ones people should fear. Americans need to become better people, with better morals, and more love for their neighbors.
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Blackdogsailing
occupy the ballot box 2012
11:06 PM on 12/18/2010
I'm sure that the love they preach on Talk Radio will bring your dream of an America where we all "become better people, with better morals, and more love for their neighbors."
10:59 AM on 12/20/2010
blackdog--proRKBA folks span the political spectrum while the civilian disarmament advocates are regressives supporting only certain rights for certain people
02:51 AM on 01/01/2011
The NRA fights for gun use which unfortunately makes it easier for the crazies to get guns. The rich are coming to take your money, they own 70% of this country and will not be satisfied till they have it all. If they want to avoid class warfare they can pay their fair share of taxes. Good Americans are killed by gun use everyday.
07:16 PM on 12/18/2010
I don't fear a gun-aided take-over... we're leaning over the brink of "Idiocracy" already and my fellow Americans don't need guns to give us a shove. It won't matter if you have a gun or not when we sink there. You only have to do what Mr. Charlie says (ever notice all the Congress-folk are millionaires?).
After 50 years of voting I at last admit it doesn't matter. I will vote for Sarah in 2012 and I want kindergarteners to carry concealed weapons.
05:01 PM on 12/18/2010
This incident could become a daily happening, considering the vast arsenal's so many individuals own.The NRA cares not for the slaughter their lobbying causes.
05:42 PM on 12/18/2010
Riiiiiiiight. Because we're all on the verge of going berserk. Any other elements of the Bill of Rights you want to throw out today?
07:57 PM on 12/18/2010
Guns are for a "well regulated militia" as the constitution clearly states(though activist judges have ruled otherwise), not for a disgruntled gun owner terrorizing a school board.
07:31 AM on 12/19/2010
What do you propose as a solution?
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HisXLNC
No.
04:58 PM on 12/18/2010
It's nice to know that Cliff believes in arbitrarily labeling people as "terrorists" and denying them their rights. He doesn't let silliness like Due Process get in his way. No sir.
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04:18 PM on 12/18/2010
Sorry Cliff, but those trains have left the station. The Supreme Court decision in “Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission” sealed the fate, for the foreseeable future, of having even a modicum of economic justice or electoral equity. The abandonment by the FCC of the fairness doctrine and to properly police the “public airways” to curtail the daily verbal outrages will not be visited in the current political climate. And, gun safety and regulation will not be on the national agenda until those “Many mini-revolutions...” turn, possibly by chain reaction, into something much larger.
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CelticMajic
The answer lies in each of us individually
12:11 PM on 12/20/2010
Lewis, are there other rights comtained in the Bill of Rights that you wish to curtail?
02:20 PM on 12/18/2010
I fear your prediction will come true.
Nonetheless, there is really only one remedy and it is a long-term one: education.
The people have what the people want, or think they want - on average, of course. They need to start wanting better/different things.
Plenty of people in the US seem to think they are safer with a gun. Few people among other western democracies think so. Perhaps both are right. If so, it would mean that the US is an inherently violent society. And of course there is ample evidence for that, starting with the support for the death penalty, unique among western democracies. How do you turn all that around? Only with long-term education. The image of the lonesome cowboy in the lawless West is deeply ingrained in the American psyche.
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Blackdogsailing
occupy the ballot box 2012
11:11 PM on 12/18/2010
I hear there's some text book revision going on in some of our southern states. Let the education begin!
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julieintx
Everybody blog Brett Kimberlin
02:02 PM on 12/18/2010
You say that pundits should be prevented from "slandering whole groups of people on air".

I thought it was disgraceful how the pundits on MSNBC and CNN slandered the tea partiers, but I'm against any effort to censor them, if that's what you have in mind. You seem to have a problem with the first two of the Bill of Rights.
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whatsyrdamage
03:46 PM on 12/18/2010
Slandered how exactly? I don't watch television so i'm not sure what you mean.

Not only that, but isn't CNN about to host a Republican primary debate with Tea Party Express?
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rstewart3
04:02 PM on 12/18/2010
Well, it isn't that they have a problem with the first two amendments of the Bill of Rights. Its that if you don't agree with them, they feel that the first two amendments shouldn't apply to you.
05:33 PM on 12/18/2010
that is probably more accurate, since free speech tends not to be a problem if you agree with the speaker
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Joseph Arechavala
02:00 PM on 12/18/2010
There's nothing like a little overreaction and predicting Armageddon to foster serious debate, is there? "Chicken Little" and a .357 magnum.

I might remind people that during the Great Depression there was 25% unemployment, and millions being thrown out of their homes and off their land. People were throwing themselves from skyscrapers.

If there was ever an era ripe for an armed insurrection, it was the 1930s.

It didn't happen then; it won't happen now.
03:35 PM on 12/18/2010
Just a little fact, suicide rates barely rose in 1930 and 1931 and in October and November of 1929 were some of the lowest of the year and for the month after the crash, suicides were lower than the year before.

Not really on topic, but an interesting little fact.

http://www.iasp.info/pdf/papers/mishara_suicide_and_the_economic_depression.pdf
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rstewart3
04:04 PM on 12/18/2010
And it didn't happen after the recent Heller decision, either. It was funny how they were predicting modern day wild-west mayhem would erupt immediately afterwards.
12:22 PM on 12/19/2010
and the Bradybots have been predicting "blood in the streets"(tm) and "wild west shootouts"(TM) with every bill mandating shall issue carry, Castle Doctrine or eliminating waiting periods
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Barbara Graham
Comin at u from Area 5150
01:54 PM on 12/18/2010
It will indeed get ugly. The really sad thing is, the people who snap are going to be killing others in their own class, and not the class that deserves it.

Because "those people" never come to things like school board meetings. It's likely very few people here will ever encounter an uber-rich in the flesh. So anger and gun barrels will be aimed at the people at hand.
03:03 PM on 12/18/2010
Wow, you really have a grudge against the "uber-rich" You honestly think that they deserve to be killed b/c they're wealthy?
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rstewart3
04:05 PM on 12/18/2010
And why would the uber-rich be the only ones that deserves to be killed?
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julieintx
Everybody blog Brett Kimberlin
01:31 PM on 12/18/2010
I'm still wondering how you would propose within the constituti on to "prevent" pundits from "inciting riots" and to which riots are you referring? The college tuition riots? The anti-Arizo na riots?
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rstewart3
04:09 PM on 12/18/2010
Didn't you know that any gathering of any combination of Conservatives, Republicans, Christian Conservatives, Tea Party members, and 2nd Amendment supporters gathering together in one spot to protest peacefully is automatically classified as a riot? Geez, get with the times! (yes, extreme dripping sarcasm should be noted with my last sentence)
05:35 PM on 12/18/2010
you do have a point--the "progressives" don't seem to have much of a problem with riots at the G8 summits or when college students shout down people they don't agree with
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julieintx
Everybody blog Brett Kimberlin
01:29 PM on 12/18/2010
I'm still wondering how you would propose within the constitution to "prevent" pundits from "inciting riots" and to which riots are you referring? The college tuition riots? The anti-Arizona riots?