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It's the GOP vs. the Navy -- on Clean Energy Use

Posted: 03/19/2012 10:18 am

In 2012, if you want to reduce your use of fossil fuels in favor of clean energy sources, expect to be taken to task by Republicans. Even if you're the United States Armed Forces.

Under most of the mainstream media radar, the U.S. military has emerged as one of the nation's biggest adopters of clean technologies including solar power, wind energy, green buildings, and biofuels. And why not -- who knows better the cost, in dollars and human lives, of our (to use George W. Bush's phrase) addiction to oil? The Pentagon is the world's largest single consumer of energy, spending about $15 billion a year and accounting for 70 percent of the entire U.S. government's energy bill. Even more to the point, one out of eight soldiers killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2007 were protecting fuel convoys, a telling statistic that has continued in Afghanistan as well.

So you would think that any effort to diversify the military's fuel sources away from petroleum, and help end our dependence on often-hostile foreign oil suppliers, would be cheered by politicians of all stripes. And you would be wrong.

At a Navy budget hearing in the House late last month, several GOP Congressmen took the opportunity to attack Navy Secretary Ray Mabus for his commitment to the development and deployment of biofuels. Along with the Air Force, the Navy has been a leading biofuels proponent, with an ambitious goal of all ships and aircraft being 50 percent biopowered by 2020. In November, a decommissioned Navy destroyer out of San Diego completed a successful test journey powered by a 50/50 blend of algae biofuel and conventional marine fuel -- 20,000 gallons worth.

Leading the charge against such initiatives was Virginia Republican Rep. Randy Forbes, who, according to press accounts, pounded his fist on the table and stormed at Mabus, "You're not the Secretary of Energy, you're Secretary of the Navy." GOP colleagues such as Mike Conaway of Texas piled on as well, questioning the wisdom of paying higher prices for biofuels. The Navy is obviously planning (and innovating) for the future, creating a viable market for suppliers like Solazyme and Dynamic Fuels, which will bring prices down. "I think we would be irresponsible if we did not reduce our dependence on foreign oil and if we did not reduce the price shocks that come with the global oil market," said Mabus. The Navy is doing what it takes when you have a multi-year plan to reduce fossil-fuel consumption and save lives -- long-term goals that go beyond the next election.

And that's what I think is really going on here. When it comes to the GOP stance against President Obama's clean energy policies, in the post-Solyndra world, not even the U.S. military is safe from political grandstanding. Republicans "are using clean energy as a proxy for the war on the administration," said Adam Browning, executive director of the excellent advocacy group Vote Solar, at a March 7 solar conference in Silicon Valley. "Their strategy seems to be that if clean energy is favored by this administration, we'll oppose it no matter what." In the mire of the 2012 election, even support for the U.S. military comes with political caveats.

 
 
 

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dasunx
Spend What You Have, Not What You Don't Have....
05:37 PM on 03/20/2012
Not just our nation but all nations on the planet are all in an oil based economic structure. Believe me if Wind and Solar was a real advantage the Saudi's would cover their nation with them. But they don't, why? OIL.............
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dasunx
Spend What You Have, Not What You Don't Have....
05:35 PM on 03/20/2012
How ironic....... The President was just out mocking Republicans for suggesting that drilling for oil would lower gas prices. Now the President is asking Saudi Arabia to increase oil up to 25% to help the U.S. bring down the price of oil... I guess it is OK for Obama to have the Saudi's drill for oil but when it comes to this nation he goes deaf..............
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Joey Call
02:26 AM on 03/23/2012
Saudi Arabia has far more oil than the USA. Very important stat.

With that Saudi can put a lot more oil in the world market than the USA. And since Saudi hasn't hit peak oil they can actually increase their drilling significantly. The USA has increased drilling since Obama took office, the USA is actually producing more oil now than any other time since 2000 but that hasn't lowered the price of gas because the price of oil is set on the WORLD MARKET.

Obama had every right for mocking the GOP because they are not looking at the real reason for the rise in the price of gas which is speculation on Wall Street and the WORLD MARKET.

Just because the oil is drilled in America doesn't mean it is sold in America. The USA is actually exporting gasoline. World Market learn about.

We live in a lot more complicated and connected world than what you might think.
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yukonsam
This space reserved for self-referential irony.
11:30 AM on 03/20/2012
The sooner we get serious about renewables, the less we'll have to rip up our countryside and poison our wells and beaches trying to get at "tough" oil and other fossil fuels.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:55 AM on 03/20/2012
Of course, not needing to truck in millions of gallons of heavy fuel for power generation would have most impact on the army and marines rather than the Navy.
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markspence
10:09 PM on 03/20/2012
How would using biofuels reduce the need for fuel overall? Wouldn't you still need to truck it?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
02:59 AM on 03/21/2012
Depends if you can grow algal diesel on a back lot at Bagram air base.

You'd need a big back lot, but at ~30MJ/Kg for the fuel and photosynthesis giving you ~1W/m^2 in sweated diesel, a square killometer of bio diesel plant could give you a few tons of oil per day. It's probably not nearly enough.
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Joey Call
02:29 AM on 03/23/2012
Just reduce the amount of oil not fuel. They are trying to have safe renewable energy instead of getting fuel from enemies they get it from themselves.

But yea they still need to truck it which means fuel convoys.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:47 AM on 03/20/2012
Well, the Navy does have the reputation of being the most cerebral of the services.
07:56 AM on 03/20/2012
I can't comment on the price issues, but someone has to be the early adopter. In the end, we will all benefit. This is analagous to the space race: government creating a market for new products and innivation that will eventually end up in the private sector. You can't run a jet engine on enything else but jet fuel. When oil peaks, or the price on the world market spikes, we feel it in our wallets. In addition, it's true that the less the military has to depend on converntional sources of energy, the better they can do their job. Look up Amory Lovin's discussion on this topic and give Ray Mabus some credit for being a progressive, forward-thinking Naval Secretary. I hope the morons he took fire from end up out of office soon. Our future depends on it.
01:52 AM on 03/20/2012
In my humble opinion,the navy should be using Nuclear reactors. They have been using them succesfully since the mid 69's.But that is a fight for another time.

I get totally disgusted when these no it all politicians get involved with the armed services. They tell Generals,Admirals,full bird Colenels how to fight wars when most of them never saw any combat or worse,dodged the draft.They put our youth in harms way then tie one hand behind their backs by not allowing them to properly fight the war,they do not even let them properly defend themselves.Disgusting!
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:51 AM on 03/20/2012
Cost, and weight, and size, and response time, and the issue of the amount of waste
heat to dump.

They've been in use since the late 1950s.
They don't work great in mid-69: the operators have to pay more attention.
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MCTSilverlakeCA
retired Sr Litigation Insurance Fraud Manager
12:38 AM on 03/20/2012
Proof positive that no matter what *anyone* other than a Republican Party Member says or try's to promote for the real good of the Country-- the Republicans are Against It! In this case the US Navy is trying to be energy responsible and cut down it's use of heavy crude oil fuel - and has converted a ship (as a test basis) to run on alternate fuels- saving 20,000 gallons - and the Republicans are against it to the tune of actually ridiculing the US Navy about doing it! Does anyone want to say the real reason? Anybody? Ah yes- and yes - that's a correct answer- The US Oil Companies are making outrageous profits by claiming there's a shortage - and here comes the US Navy saying they found a way to reduce that shortage! I hear an Admiral's shoulder boards being ripped off somewhere!
09:23 AM on 03/20/2012
It's not the GOP vs, the Navy at all.

DOE BIOMASS PROGRAM AND ALGAE RESEARCHERS NEED TO BE INVESTIGATED!

Solydra story is opening a huge can of worms at the DOE LOAN GURANTEE LOAN PROGRAM. Its not just about the Solar loan guarantee program. Look at all the millions in fees collected by the DOE LOAN GUARANTEE PROGRAM with algae projects less than 20% completed. An audit needs to be done on all DOE Biomass Program Grants to algae researchers.

The US taxpayer has spent over $2.5 billion dollars over the last 50 years on algae research. To date, nothing has been commercialized by any algae researcher.

The REAL question is: Does the DOE BIOMASS PROGRAM really want the US off of foreign oil or do they want to continue funding more grants for algae research to keep algae researchers employed at universities for another 50 years?

In business, you are not given 50 years to research anything. The problem is in the Congressional Mandate that says the DOE can only use taxpayer monies on algae research, NOT algae production in the US. So far, algae research has not got the US off of foreign oil for the last 50 years!

A Concerned Taxpayer
11:23 PM on 03/19/2012
"viable market for suppliers like Solazyme and Dynamic Fuels, which will bring prices down"

How? It has to be cheaper than oil to do that and it is not : "Algae Biodiesel: It's $33 a Gallon"

http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/algae-biodiesel-its-33-a-gallon-5652/
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
09:52 AM on 03/20/2012
Hold on. The price of crude oil is headed up, and the price of algal diesel is heading down.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
10:00 AM on 03/20/2012
When your ship costs $1.5bn to buy, and $150m a year to run, you can afford a lot of expensive fuel without altering the costs much.

Using say ~2000 gallons of fuel per day, you're talking ~$20m a year, which doesn't change the game.
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Trepasky
Sanity is neither free nor easy
04:07 PM on 03/19/2012
The GOP would prefer their campaign donors make a profit instead of the country reducing its need for purchasing fossil fuel from those GOP sponsored companies.
08:22 PM on 03/19/2012
Trepasky you still on the propaganda kick???
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Trepasky
Sanity is neither free nor easy
08:35 PM on 03/19/2012
Seems like my facts bother you?
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
04:06 PM on 03/19/2012
No mention of what algae fuel costs to produce. Why is that?
08:22 PM on 03/19/2012
Price Sticker shock
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abbienormal
What hump?
10:42 PM on 03/19/2012
I dunno. What is the price of one in eight soldiers?
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
10:54 PM on 03/19/2012
How would bio-fuel save the lives of one in eight soldiers? The fuel would still have to be moved in convoys and would still need to be protected.
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
03:57 PM on 03/19/2012
"one out of eight soldiers killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2007 were protecting fuel convoys, a telling statistic that has continued in Afghanistan as well." How would using bio-fuel change this?
08:24 PM on 03/19/2012
They wont have to protect it
Mother earth will take care of it.
Why are you asking these people logical questions?????
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MCTSilverlakeCA
retired Sr Litigation Insurance Fraud Manager
12:40 AM on 03/20/2012
we wouldn't be there protecting oil company interests in the area - that's how! It's all about protecting the Oil Industry profits!
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MrBIgp
If I'm wrong, please show me
02:40 AM on 03/20/2012
First, the article claimed that one in eight soldiers killed were killed guarding fuel convoys. What difference does it make if the fuel is bio or petroleum? NONE, it still has to be guarded.

Second, the wars were NOT about protecting oil company profits. If Persian Gulf oil were cut off, the profits of the oil companies would soar - along with the price of oil. It would, however, be an economic disaster to the world.
03:05 PM on 03/19/2012
I see there is no mention in this article of the real costs of alternative fuels for the military. If the Navy wanted to convert to compressed natural gas for its diesels, it's a sure cost winner. However, other articles I've seen about military use of alternative liquid fuels indicate that they cost 5 times as much as conventional fuels. If this is true, using alternative fuels sure won't help the Armed Forces do its work in a cost effective manner.
08:25 PM on 03/19/2012
Thats why theyre forced to go the route
Whoever heard of the military ever being cost efficient????
02:30 PM on 03/19/2012
They are afraid of the future. What does being pro oil anti alternative energy have to do with being a conservative?
01:33 PM on 03/19/2012
It's really the Navy and the Administration versus the US taxpayer. The Navy has paid Solazyme as much as $427 a gallon = $18,000 a barrel for algae biofuel. The lowest price paid by DOD so far after funding alternative fuels since 2007 is $26.75 for chicken fat biofuel with a hint of algae from Dynamic fuels (=Tyson + Syntroleum + Solazyme) as compared to conventional diesel and jet fuel which it buys $2.30 a gallon. Each gallon of biofuel displaces exactly one gallon of conventional F-76 naval diesel fuel or JP-5 jet fuel priced at $2.30 a gallon. Blending is just a way to try to hide the cost. If you blend biofuel into conventional fuel at 50%, it still costs the same per gallon for the biofuel. If you blend it in like alcohol into gasohol at 10%, it just becomes a super high-priced "additive" that still costs $26.75 per gallon. I guess that's what the Navy is willing to pay to be able to put a "green" label on its ships. After all, it doesn't cost them anything, it's taxpayer money, and they are making political points for their boss.
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PaulBardinas
Educating one person at a time.
04:31 PM on 03/19/2012
Nonsense! The Navy realizes that the future will be alternative fuels. The fact that these fuels cost absurd amounts now is irrelevant, and the navy knows it. Like every new technology, it's expensive. Satelites, gps, fuel cells, cell phones, microchips, etc. Everyone of these technologies were once experimental, expensive, and limited to the military or NASA. Guess what, today most people take them for granted. Your argument is baseless, because I'm pretty sure the Republicans weren't complaing when the military spent billions in their districts or States to build obsolete weapons systems or experimental planes. The Navy has been developing solar, wind, and fuel alternatives for years.
08:27 PM on 03/19/2012
To state this bluntly
Youre full of it.
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markspence
09:19 PM on 03/19/2012
"Satelites, gps, fuel cells, cell phones, microchips, etc. Everyone of these technologies were once experimental, expensive, and limited to the military or NASA."

Alternative fuels are not limited to the military. The civilian market is many times larger than the military market. Let civilians drive the development.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
12:01 PM on 03/20/2012
You seem to be confused as to the total cost of operating military equipment.

With aircraft costing $100k per hour to operate, a few thousand dollars worth of fuel is only
a small part of it.