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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
01:36 AM on 10/13/2011
This battle is nothing less than about redefining what is right and wrong. The rich would have you believe that greed is good, something that flies in the face of 4,000 years of human knowledge. This is nothing less than a battle of good vs_evil!
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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
01:33 AM on 10/13/2011
The laziest people on the planet are the rich, living and getting rich off the sweat of others!
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
01:35 AM on 10/13/2011
Labor creates all wealth.
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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
01:37 AM on 10/13/2011
You got it buster!
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Ashok Hegde
04:22 AM on 10/13/2011
If labor creates all the wealth...why do we have an unemployment problem? Plenty of un-used labor out there...why don't they simply create wealth? Why don't we see unemployed laborers starting small businesses, and dispensing with corporate positions?

Since labor creates the wealth, they shouldn't need anything else to thrive, right?
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Lorenzo&BushH8ter
01:33 AM on 10/13/2011
The 53% is now practicing yoga.
Their favorite pose is "downward dog" backed up to the front of a bankster.
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sdtrueman
countering rightwing lies daily
01:30 AM on 10/13/2011
Erick Erickson is making a hell of a lot more money than most Americans. Really what he should be doing is shutting up and doing something good for the world, like maybe volunteering at a local homeless shelter. Or does he honestly believe that the financial crisis had nothing to do with the legalized gambling Wall street is engaged in AND when their investments schemes blew up, they asked the taxpayers to bail them out so they could downsize and keep paying their CEO's hundreds of millions. If that's what Erickson thinks is good for this country, then he truly is a bigger a**h##e than most people think he is.
08:44 AM on 10/13/2011
The favorite teat of the Left, our government, bailed out Wall Street and many others. Again I ask, if the Libs fear and distrust the power of Big Corporations, why do you trust in the power of Big Government? Corporations have sustainably employed, government has not.
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sdtrueman
countering rightwing lies daily
10:33 AM on 10/13/2011
Ask all you want, the answer is still the same...it's NOT that we trust big government more, it's that we trust big corporations a hell of a lot less. Simply look back at the economic history of the US and you will find collapse after collapse caused by industry titans, speculators and crooks. AND when corporate thieves - like Dick Cheney - get control of the government, they raid government's coffers by starting wars and ramping up the military industrial complex. Government yes, is incredibly wasteful and may waste the taxpayer's money; corporations are inherently greedy and will steal the taxpayer's money. Why is right-wingers hate ordinary Americans so much, that's the real question to ask?
01:23 AM on 10/13/2011
53% movement= "Why can't you all work as hard as me? I work so hard... so very hard... I work so hard that it negates the efforts of others who work just as hard but don't make as much as me. Suck it up folks, we all have to work really hard to keep our corporate masters happy. They run the elections, after all!"

In other words, they're saying "Bend over and take it, America."
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SCStoday
Republicans are holding back economy
01:22 AM on 10/13/2011
New tax data from the Internal Revenue service shows that in 2009, incomes fell, unemployment claims rose, and the U.S. economy shed nearly two million taxpayers.

More in the 47% tax bracket:
And of the 235,413 taxpayers who earned $1 million or more in 2009, 1,470 of them paid no taxes.
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TggerJen
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09:49 AM on 10/13/2011
Excellent comment! Thanks for posting that. However, it's not possible to have that much money and pay NO taxes- you're referring to federal income taxes, right? It's still entirely unacceptable!
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SCStoday
Republicans are holding back economy
05:19 PM on 10/13/2011
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/millionaire-tax-rate_n_1008845.html

These findings, from the Congressional Research Service, echo an earlier report that found that more than 1,400 millionaires paid no income taxes at all in 2009,
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Bob Grace
01:15 AM on 10/13/2011
The 53 ers have no problem with the trillions sucked from the coffers by the banksters. They want the dollars from from other poor slobs like them. Misery loves company.
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vandegrasse
Don't Panic
01:29 AM on 10/13/2011
They're effed_up!
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TggerJen
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09:51 AM on 10/13/2011
That guy doesn't speak for the 53%ers, only himself. Please don't overgeneralize based on nothing but his ego and buffoonery; you giving him credit for and the credibility to speak for the majority of Americans isn't helpful to anyone but him.
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SCStoday
Republicans are holding back economy
01:15 AM on 10/13/2011
In that 47% that pay no income tax, lets not forget the Corporations in that bracket:

Exxon, Bank of America, GE, Chevron, Boeing, Valero, Citigroup all got refunds while many paid only 1% of it's income in taxes.
05:39 AM on 10/13/2011
Doe3s a refund mean they paid no taxes? OR does it mean they overpaid their estimated taxes? HMMMM. I( got5 a refunhd also but that does not mean the GOVERNMENT did not keep the majority of what was paid in!
When Exxon and the russioan oil company they partnered with start making money, should Exxon pay U.S. taxes on that income? Russia allows them to explore and drill, without bfighting their way through the courts and congress. So how much U.S. tax should Exxon pay on their Russian operation? Maybe it would be to their and their stockholders advantage to relocate.
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TggerJen
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09:56 AM on 10/13/2011
Getting a refund for OVER-paying still means they paid some unless the refund is for 100% of all fed income taxes paid.
There are large numbers of people who pay no net federal income taxes (either because they have none deducted or because they are refunded 100% or more of what they did pay in). Some people get paid more than what they paid in (Earned Income Tax Credit) and the end result is that they pay no net federal income taxes.

That's not the same as paying NO taxes. Pretty much everyone alive and living in the US pays some taxes (sales tax, gas tax, property tax- either directly or indirectly). Too many people aren't very careful about how they word their claims.
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SCStoday
Republicans are holding back economy
05:22 PM on 10/13/2011
Yes they should relocated if they are avoiding paying their US taxes. If they are incorporated in the US and operate under the corporation then they should pay tax on the income they earned....period...in my opinion.
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joebaggadonuts
Civilization: Evolutionary pathway of choice.
01:09 AM on 10/13/2011
If you work for a living you pay FICA and other taxes BEFORE you get your first dollar from your employer, unless it pays you in cash and doesn't report it.
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koos458
The Weather is Aways Nicer in Coos Bay
12:59 AM on 10/13/2011
Wealth redistribution and class warfare has been going on for 30 years. I work, pay taxes and I support OWS.
12:47 AM on 10/13/2011
Erik, you are clueless.
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WorkhelpWorkhelp
Control your money locally. Charter banks now.
12:43 AM on 10/13/2011
Another attempt at separation. Sad. We need unison.....
12:26 AM on 10/13/2011
Obama's class warfare dialogue is counter productive and divisive. The Wall Street mafia make such easy targets because they really don't get it. Yesterday they announced record bonuses for themselves­, while the majority of Americans saw their income decrease six percent.. I empathize with many of the OWS protesters­. They have legitimate complaints about the growth of inequality in America today. I believe it was stated that CEO pay up until the mid 80's was about thirty to one higher than the average wage earner. Today that figure has ballooned up to three-hund­red to one. If those trends continue America will be no better than off than our neighbors to the south. However I believe, categorizi­ng the entire wealthy class as villains is dangerous. The majority of wealthy Americans attained their wealth via hard work and sacrifice. To view gentlemen such as Bill Gates. Mark Zukerburg and Steve Jobs(RIP) as villains is ridiculous­. My advice to OWS and other wealth bashers is get a life. Start your own business. Chart your own course. Protest Washington DC instead of Wall Street. Don't vilify the wealthy, because like or not ,they are the true drivers of our economy
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12:34 AM on 10/13/2011
The wealthy are not the problem supply side economics is the problem. The lafer curve is a curve not a straight line. You can't keep cutting taxes forever. The deficits run by the supply side administrations of Reagan, Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. are proof of this. Republicans need to get a grip on things cutting taxes doesn't make government smaller. You actually have to make it smaller then you can cut taxes.
01:06 AM on 10/13/2011
Wealth that reproduces itself simply by existing does not require hard work or sacrifice. Returning tax rates on the rich to traditional twentieth century levels and reregulating the unsafe banking practices that caused the global meltdown do not require vilification of "the rich", Though it may threaten those who have made unprecedented profits from America's decline. If these people are the "true drivers of our economy" they have failed and should be fired.
If you want to protect the wealthy restabilize the middleclass. Trashing the poor at every opportunity while encouraging a huge growth in their numbers (get a life, you're just jealous that we still have homes, jobs and healthcare et...) is a really stupid way to avoid "class war".
12:23 AM on 10/13/2011
This isn't just about taxes! It's about getting the rid of Wall Street influence on the Democratic and Republican parties too! I still don't see why this has to be a liberal vs. conservative issue. It affects EVERYONE and EVERYONE should be for trying to get the unending greed and influence away from Wall Street and back to the 99%.
12:02 AM on 10/13/2011
I'm the 53% -- I take issue with where my $$ goes. I don't want to subsidize corporations, so they can off load jobs. I don't want the double dip of big ag where my tax dollar props up unsustainable farming practices and then I pay again at the supermarket. I don't want to pay for a war that was the diversion for that oil pipeline in Iraq. I don't want to pay for politicians' healthcare when that same healthcare is denied me. I don't want to fund pharmaceutical companies' R&D but want to relegate all R&D under NIH at universities. I don't want to pay for politicians' salaries when they represent corporate interests and not the American People's.
12:54 AM on 10/13/2011
You actually sound like a 99 percenter..
01:29 AM on 10/13/2011
I sound like myself; I've worked all my life and have paid taxes. The people who call themselves the 53% are not informed. 53% are really within the 99%, but don't seem to know it.
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koos458
The Weather is Aways Nicer in Coos Bay
12:59 AM on 10/13/2011
F&F