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01:17 AM on 11/04/2011
As we increase the violence arrests will necessarily increase. The die will then have been cast to “overwhelm the system” as Prof. Piven encouraged us to in the 60s. In fact, a Union official on the Ed Show made a case for shutting down bridges and roads and occupying the banks---which would COMPEL the President to declare martial law. As Dan Stern [SEIU], an advisor to the President, said “We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun” and “if we can't use the power of persuasion, then we'll use the persuasion of power.”
With martial law, Mr Obama becomes the sole arbiter of what is legal. The constitution is suspended!
The President can then ensure equal justice, eliminate poverty via redistribution, and restart a NONPROFIT green energy industry.
A segment of the population will resist this progressive shift. As Bill Ayers suggested way back in 1969, -the government can set up reeducation camps. Ayers did recognize that some may not be converted---and the solution Ayers put forth was to “eliminate” them.
Finally, what is so exciting to me personally about OWS—and what it WILL morph into- is that some of us will have the opportunity to watch—and assist—our children and grandchildren—actually implement the policies we embraced decades ago! To those still enamored of capitalism we can only say Resist we mucht!!
01:42 AM on 11/04/2011
We already have a nonprofit green energy industry. That's why it doesn't work.
07:58 PM on 11/08/2011
Because we need a cap and trade or carbon tax system to shift market signals in its favor (as opposed to favoring dirty fuel production, which has the advantage of over a century of production and economy of scale).

http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/renewable-energy/energy-dependence-free-market
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rak6748
Love-Respect-Integrity
02:36 AM on 11/04/2011
Spoken by a true Marxist and traitor to the USA.
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intolleft
ObamaTAX...getting you shovel ready
09:05 AM on 11/04/2011
I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm.
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gomezrules
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?
12:50 AM on 11/04/2011
This is proof of what I've been saying on these boards since this thing first started, that it is a Dem Party organized and orchestrated escapade that was designed from the get-go to deflect from the Dems, especially those in the Senate who have done nothing about the plethora of bills passed by the House that address the jobless situation in this country! The very same people who got us into this mess are now standing up and screaming "we're behind you" to the OWS types, and those OWS types eat it up and kiss up right back at them. In other words, they're being played, and that's why I can't take the OWS seriously! It's like those mega-millionaire Senators and Congressmen who rail against that 'Top One Percent', while being members of that most exclusive club themselves, and taking advantage of every tx strategy, shelter, loophole, deduction, credit, etc., that they THEMSELVES have written into the tax coed and laws! Until actual, genuine protests are conducted in front of the WH and Congress, directed at Obama and everyone else who is trying to have things both ways, these OWS fools and tools will be viewed as just that! The Dems are selling us yet another lie, a whopper at that, and the usual suspects fall for it hook, line, and sinker!
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Dan Schell
Reagan & Dubya made me this way.
09:48 AM on 11/04/2011
How is "this" proof of anything? Tin-foil hat, much?
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ShawnRay
12:39 AM on 11/04/2011
I love income inequality - the question: "how much do you need?" the answer - just a fraction but I will keep as much as I can because I earned it.It is my money. I work hard every day and spend half of the year overseas on business trips to make the kind of money I do. That is the sacrifice I chose. You do the work and put in the time because I will not give my money away freely.
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Bambaya
I am a proud liberal
04:44 AM on 11/04/2011
You have no money.
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Ted229
12:32 AM on 11/04/2011
This is priceless. The average Senator is a part of the 1%.
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Michael D Ballantine
Texas Justice Party - Chairperson
12:30 AM on 11/04/2011
Do they really think the OWS supporters are going to believe that the people in Washington are doing anything more than pandering? A simple way for the Senate to show support would be to raise taxes on millionaires. Another simple way to show support would be to give debt relief to students and homeowners. That will get OWS support, not empty promises. It is amazing how the power elite in America thinks so little of us that they believe we will accept their lies.
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thinklib
I will not mince words.
12:24 AM on 11/04/2011
There will always be "income disparity."

And there will always be politicians who pretend to be aghast at "income disparity" in order to get votes.
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tomjefferson2005
Obama, House, Senate 2012 for the sake of America
05:02 AM on 11/04/2011
thinklib: There will always be "income disparity.­"

And there will always be politician­s who pretend to be aghast at "income disparity" in order to get votes. .......................................................Response: thefiscaltimes.com: October 7, 2011: Republican Ronald Reagan supported taxing capital gains as ordinary income – they are now taxed much less – and supported higher taxes on corporations. Defending his tax reform proposal in 1985, Reagan said:

We're going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary, and that's crazy. It's time we stopped it….

What we're trying to move against is institutionalized unfairness. We want to see that everyone pays their fair share, and no one gets a free ride. Our reasons? It's good for society when we all know that no one is manipulating the system to their advantage because they're rich and powerful. But it's also good for society when everyone pays something, that everyone makes a contribution.
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thinklib
I will not mince words.
04:42 PM on 11/04/2011
I agree with Reagan. Especially when he says that 'everyone' should pay their fair share and 'no one' gets a free ride. That goes for rich and poor.

Even so, there will always be income disparity.

Some people are just better, smarter, luckier, or whatever.
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Achilles1963
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11:57 PM on 11/03/2011
I can't believe the writer of this article doesn't have a better grasp of history. McGovern was ahead in the polls until it came to light that the man he chose as his running mate (Eagleton) had been in a mental hospital and subjected to electroshock therapy. If McAuliff isn't old enough to remember that he should have at least researched the issue.
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soisay
Angry? Scared? Thank a Republican.
09:39 AM on 11/04/2011
actually muskie was ahead in thepolls until his meltdown ovet smears about his wife (now considered normal under Karl Rove). McGovern was preferred by the GOP and still lead, until Eagleton resigned between the convention and election.

How could so much bad luck befall the democrats in 1968? Look in your history books for plumbers, CREEP, wiretaps, Woodward and bernstein. The fact is that the republican (Nixon#2) didn't ”win” either, since he was unable to fill out a term and much of his staff went to jail.

Anyone that ever holds up mcgovern as an example/lesson for campaign strategy is naive, misleading you,.or just stupid.
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kemcha
liberals are destroying this country
11:28 PM on 11/03/2011
Harry reid is right about one, it will save the Senate, but not in the way he thinks. Americans are going to vote out ALL INCUMBANT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
11:42 PM on 11/03/2011
What you fail to notice is the psyche of the average voter: "All of the politicians suck, with the exception of ours." Certainly, 2010 was a major deviation from the incumbency effect, but it still followed the general rule. And 2010 will be no different.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
11:50 PM on 11/03/2011
All incumbents aren't up for reelection unfortunately.
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Gadgetman
No sense of humor? That's not funny!
10:40 PM on 11/03/2011
Excuse me but exactly what is OWS' message? I'm in support of it but they're still too scattered.
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Jeffrey Baughman
10:42 PM on 11/03/2011
You cant really be this stupid.
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Changeover
11:02 PM on 11/03/2011
Way to broaden the tent with a spot on message. Guess that is why everybody supports the OWS message in general but throw the lib implementation out the door. That is why the Tea Party is more popular and influential.
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Gadgetman
No sense of humor? That's not funny!
03:47 AM on 11/04/2011
Go ahead brain surgeon, enlighten me.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
11:51 PM on 11/03/2011
You need to get down to a general assembly and help hammer out a message. We aren't followers following a prepackaged platform, we are a direct democracy working out exactly what the crisis is and how to best address it.

And that takes time.
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dfloyd chef
Freedom is something that dies unless it's used
07:32 AM on 11/04/2011
So, in other words, there's something wrong but we don't know what it is? What an inspiring message. Let's see the Dems run on that.
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juslin217
Don't assume you know what I think...
09:35 PM on 11/03/2011
Please, please, PLEASE....senate dems, and Pres. Obama...align yourselves with the Occupy crowd...support the rioting, and the lawbreaking....let the law abiding citizens see what you really stand for!
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PaganKMcK
Dems are from Earth; GOP are from Ferenginar
09:53 PM on 11/03/2011
Which Law abiding citizens are you referring too? The Corporations? A plurality of Americans support the goals of Occupy Wall Street.
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juslin217
Don't assume you know what I think...
10:34 PM on 11/03/2011
I'm referring to people who don't throw rocks and bottles at police, shut down ports and put people out of work, deface property and break windows...keep up the violence and you will see support drop like a stone...
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Jeffrey Baughman
10:36 PM on 11/03/2011
Law abiding citizens? PLEASE. Law abiding sheep who are willing to sell their souls to hold on to their money.
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juslin217
Don't assume you know what I think...
10:39 PM on 11/03/2011
so you agree with the violence in Oakland last night?
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juslin217
Don't assume you know what I think...
10:40 PM on 11/03/2011
and what do you do with YOUR money, do tell!
DUSAA-1775
never moon a werewolf
09:11 PM on 11/03/2011
Yesterday the Oakland swarm turned into a violent destructive riot. That may not help the democrats.
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realitycheckga
I misplaced my rose colored glasses!
08:03 PM on 11/03/2011
It certainly will, just not in Democrats favor!
Freddie Krueger
Liberalism is bad for America
07:53 PM on 11/03/2011
Well Democrats, what's next? It was a nice try.
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DJleary
07:39 PM on 11/03/2011
Well one shouldn't #$%^ where one eats. Here in Oakand the "protesters" are doing exactly that.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
11:54 PM on 11/03/2011
It's good you put protesters in quotes, because Occupy is nonviolent.