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stape45
It IS what it IS!
08:02 AM on 11/08/2011
It's the wealthy who are governing the nation as they rail against government all the while.The pllutocracy's only real beef is that they want to be the ONLY government.
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R307Johnson
Forget about it!
07:56 AM on 11/08/2011
If there is a law setting a minimum wage, shouldn't there also be one setting a maximum? I feel that the highest paid should be limited to 20 times the base salaried employees. If a companies base employees are making $15 an hour the the highest pay would be $300 an hour.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
08:56 AM on 11/08/2011
Good post, but , too generous. The ratio of CEO to average worker is only 11 to 1 in Germany.

It's 47 to 1 in Mexico but it the good old USA , our CEO's make 475 times the salary of the average worker.

So in Germany, which is the world's strongest economy, 11 times is the norm. I'd say go for that and no more.
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
09:10 AM on 11/08/2011
Sure, we have seen how well the minimum wage has worked out. Let's pass another law to "help" businesses become more socially conscience. What is the jobless rate amongst the young untrained job seekers anyway? 20%, 25%, or more? What we need is more government and their interference to create jobs.
07:30 AM on 11/08/2011
Record 49.1 Million Americans Are Poor According To New Census Measures

The GOP wants these people to pay taxes because they are part of the 51% of Americans that don't pay taxes.

Now the T.E.A. party (Taxed Enough Already) either agree or disagree with the GOP because thats how they roll nowadays, maybe they are split down the middle.

Anyways, the GOP can't court the TEA Party anymore because they are ginning up this "everybody has to have some skin in the game" rhetoric and they target the 51% who don't pay taxes as the cause of our problems. The whole thing is so jumbled and incoherent I don't know how their message master still has a job.

Anyway, I believe that the GOP snubbed the TEA party convention in FLA because they are no longer useful. They only needed them in 2010 and that effort and expense half failed since they didn't take the Senate. LOL
04:23 AM on 11/08/2011
I don't see why people are surprised. For every person making 300k+ there are hundreds of people that actually have to pay for it. This is the basic of capitalism, money doesn't grow on tree someone has to pay.
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
10:08 AM on 11/08/2011
Capitalism is based on the fact that with every transaction, each party can win. That growing the economy creates weath and doesn't take from others. That money does grow on trees, if you plant fruit trees and pay people to harvest the crop and sell it to others, each party along the way benefits. You really could not be more wrong. It is not a zero sum game. It is not "monopoly" where one person ends up with all the hotels. You can build a new hotel, if you bribe enough politicians.
05:10 PM on 11/08/2011
You almost got it right. In numbers it looks like this:
- $0 to trees
- $8/hr to 99 employees (fruit pickers)
- $500k profit for the owner.

99% gets paid (to barely make it) and 1% are the heroes (creating jobs). Like you said win win.
Capitalism = "outsmart others, make them pay your bills and make it look like you helped them"
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
03:38 AM on 11/08/2011
the Oligarch Kleptocracy of the UnUnited States of Avarice is coming along just as the Sociopathic parasite rich planned it. They will continue to be able to sit back and live in a life of luxury at our expense, while we toil away in never ending servitude to create the wealth they demand. The Gov we elect to protect us is just their puppets and do their bidding. Party doesn't matter, they are all the puppets of the rich, and we are doomed unless these sociopaths are removed.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
07:58 AM on 11/08/2011
Amen!
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
02:39 AM on 11/08/2011
15.7% of us in poverty. 47 million still without healthcare. 25% of children under five living in poverty. 20 million Americans who regularly go hungry.

Average salary for top 50 CEOs - $35 million per year.

Proposed cut to Social Security by unconstitutional Super Committee - 3%.

Amount of our tax dollars 'awarded' to Lockheed Martin so far this year - $17.3 billion.

Amount of taxpayer dollars given to subsidize big oil in 2010 - $26 billion.

Number of barrels of oil the US Armed Services bought in 2010 with our tax dollars - 134 million.

I think you all get the idea - something's REALLY gone rotten in America. And that something is that corporations are now making their move to completely take over the American government. As the Who said, "I get on my knees and pray...we don't get fooled again!"
08:55 AM on 11/08/2011
We are getting fooled again.
If people really wanted to do something in America, there would be mass strikes, mass walkouts on jobs, etc.
The Execs and CEOs are going to continue to get richer because average worker Jim is just happy to have a job and is going to keep is mouth shut despite being grossly underpaid, overworked and having his benefits cut.
I can certainly see that point of view, as a job is certainly better than no job. But if people continue to just be happy with a job and keep their heads down and mouths shut while they get screwed by Execs and CEOs, nothing is ever going to change in this country.
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
01:56 AM on 11/08/2011
ran across this website, it should be called " how to spot the parasitic Sociopathic part of the top
1%ers who are ruining America.

http://martiecoetser.hubpages.com/hub/Con-artists-sociopaths-troubled-with-Narcissistic-Personality-Disorder
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FormerlyTCnSRQ
A Man On The Run..... No Escape Ahead
11:39 PM on 11/07/2011
the last 3+ years have been devastating for millions of American families and these clowns in Washington are bickering over gay marriage and defunding planned parenthood.
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
01:57 AM on 11/08/2011
because the super rich dont want them to address the economic issues. They dont want the gravy train ended. It would mean that might actually have to work..
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Peanut Santiago
02:16 AM on 11/08/2011
THAT'S important.

So is going after women's (cheap) health care options.

So is returning us to the 90's......the 1890's.......

Jobs?
What jobs?
Did the Repugs say anything about jobs?

*****BTW, declaring a fertilized egg a person is important to them.
I would assume that fertilized egg doesn't even have to be attached to a uterus or anything....it could just be floating in a test tube or something.

Even the average church generally worries about fertilized eggs IN a woman's uterus before they get all bent out of shape trying to protect it.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
08:19 AM on 11/08/2011
It's just another diversion to keep the Tbags from thinking about the jobs they, too, are losing.
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FormerlyTCnSRQ
A Man On The Run..... No Escape Ahead
08:24 AM on 11/08/2011
Pandora's box...personhood at fertilization means so many things that aren't law....it is another way to enslave women. This attempt by tepublicans to take womens rights away is very dangerous.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:09 PM on 11/07/2011
there are students that make more than the poverty level.....if you cant average minimum wage for a year, you dont wish to work.
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Vernie Taylor
01:08 AM on 11/08/2011
There are about 14 million Americans officially unemployed and actively looking for work. There are 8.5 million people working part-time that would like to be working full-time... but simply can't find the employment. The private sector is producing about 60-80,000 jobs a month while federal, state, and local governments are laying off people (losing about 20,000 a month). So for every job that appears, there are at least 200 people seeking that job. Just to be fair, there are over 4 million unemployed who say they have given up looking. It is a sad state of affairs.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
08:54 AM on 11/08/2011
one problem is the army of no skills folks that dont manage to finish high entering the workforce every year....there are place in the country looking for workers that cant fill the jobs....some even union jobs. college eductated folks have unemployment under 6%.....we hired skilled folks when they show up....i know an aluminum foundry in cleveland that needs about 20 union folks....we keep wondering where all of these job seekers are when we run an ad....you are right though.....mcdonalds gets all the applications they want, mainly because they are in plain sight and the seekers dont read the want ads.
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stuart100s
I started with nothing, & still have most of it.
09:37 AM on 11/08/2011
I have had applicants bring their parent to fill out the job application. I get 90% of applicants that can't complete the basic math test required to get an interview. I don't give out jobs, you have to earn it. You have to contribute to the success of the company in order to draw a check from the company. Call me old fashioned, but I don't hire high school drop outs.
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
02:00 AM on 11/08/2011
yeah right, you see if you can do it and not just talk out your sphincter.. There are many students, high school and college that cant find jobs. There are many educated hard working American who cant find jobs. there just aren't enough of them. Period. and its even worse is your disabled, over 50 years of age, or the flavor of the month to discriminate against minority in America. You can say what you say, cause you yourself, and likely dont know anyone either, who has ever been out of work and could not find a job.
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
02:42 AM on 11/08/2011
F & F due to your respectful suggestion the poster above may have a rectal/cranial problem...
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
08:56 AM on 11/08/2011
there arent enough minimum wage jobs to employ the army of high school dropouts...i'll give you that.....trained folks are in demand though.
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candycorn
Moving Foward
10:55 PM on 11/07/2011
Please people, we must and just have to vote the republicans out of office. They are destroying this country by being greedy and making sure the top 1% stay at the top and the middleclass and poor get poorer and poorer. I know everyone thought the republicans would work with Obama and get us out of this mess, but their whole intention is to make Obama a one time president at any cost. And that cost is the 99%. So I am asking the 99% put your heads together and vote these republicans out and put the Democrats back in so we can take back our country.
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John Perozzi
Galt's Gulch or Bust
12:14 AM on 11/08/2011
Please explain what "greedy" means to you.
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Vernie Taylor
01:17 AM on 11/08/2011
"Greed" = avarice or covetousness, a sin of excess, desire for gain or wealth beyond one's proper share. One of the 7 deadly sins along with wrath, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and the closely associated gluttony.
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Peanut Santiago
01:48 AM on 11/08/2011
Why bother to explain?

Anybody that approves of Ayn Rand's idea of laissez faire capitalism and admires her character Galt would never understand.

I would bet that asking the rich to pay any taxes is probably unacceptable to you.
Even though they use taxpayer funded roads, bridges, parks, police departments......

For other people reading, there is something wrong when the rich get richer and the rest of the people get poorer.

I have no issues with the rich having lots of money.
But there is something wrong when the rest of the people must make do with less and less and too many are losing their middle class lifestyles and slipping into poverty through no fault of their own.
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
02:06 AM on 11/08/2011
Its not just republicans, many democrats are the same behind closed doors. They promise one thing, and do another. What we need to do is get a separation between gov and capitalism. No capitalist can be involved in or influence the gov. And we also need super hard core regulations and laws placed upon capitalist so they dont continue with the super corrupte acts that caused much of our problems today. Capitalism does work, but it has to be held under tight restraints so they dont steer off the legal and just path. Make all the profits you want, just dont do it off the backs of others, or by breaking or as some say "reading between the lines" of the law. regulate, enforce, punish hard, and maybe this system and country can get back on track. remember, many businesses start the right way, but little by little many also start down the wrong path, and then let the greed bug bite and push further into the dark side, justifying it with the huge profits they reap.
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judi9694
10:42 PM on 11/07/2011
This is tragic. I will choose food over health care at some point. I have already made choices to waive basic testing because it is too expensive. To hell with prevention and early diagnosis the price tag is too high. It's really cool that we have all this neat technology that can diagnose and treat people with precision, it's just a shame that only the wealthy can afford it.
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Peanut Santiago
02:11 AM on 11/08/2011
I was 45 years old before they found out what was wrong with me.
Severe problems with my glands that left me always exhausted (instead of being lazy as I was labeled).

All that GREAT medical knowledge and technology and it didn't do me much good.
All I got was an occasional "band aid" when I got sick.

Now, while I look okay, my diseases were ignored and untreated for too long and I need disability.

Sadly, more and more hardworking Americans are losing their health care insurance.....and will be dependent on a system of only emergency medicine (emergency rooms at public hospitals).

I guess the upper classes don't mind if more Americans get sick and die for lack of proper health care.
You have to pull yourself up by your bootstraps OR do without.
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
02:20 AM on 11/08/2011
I really do feel for you. Like Ive said many times here before, I did ok in my career, and do all I can to help people I know, like my disabled cousin who is a single father of 2 daughters. I helped my parents when they were alive too. But its starting to really eat away at my savings now and I have been having to cut back with my family so I can still help others worse off than myself. It does hurt, but Im still not down to choosing like you and my cousin are. I have a very rich Uncle,and I mean in the top 1% for sure at over 130mil worth, and he wont help anyone even though he inherited most of it , he claims its his he earned it. Typical 1%. I can tell you from knowing some 1%s, they dont think like humans, and they could really care less if we all died. In fact, to them, once we are broke, we should die.
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
08:36 AM on 11/08/2011
I'm a member of the 1%. But not at the top, by any measure.

I am having to spend my savings and hard-earned money to help my children and parents, too.

And when I am old and have no savings, will S. S. be there for me? Will my pension?
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Rational Thought Plz
Is the Micro Bio Half
10:43 PM on 11/07/2011
One in six people in the richest country in the world lives in poverty.


Now we may disagree on how to fix that, but if you don't see anything troubling about that statistic, you have some real problems.
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John Perozzi
Galt's Gulch or Bust
12:18 AM on 11/08/2011
Here's why that statistic is not troubling. Regardless of the wealth of any nation, there will always be, by definition, people living in poverty. However, the people who live in poverty in the U.S. are so far above the rest of the world that it becomes clear that the whole purpose of this article is the victimization of said group for political grandstanding. When our "poor" is better off than most of the world's "middle class", then that tells you everything you need to know.
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Vernie Taylor
01:41 AM on 11/08/2011
Are you talking about the third world? Certainly you can't mean the middle or even lower working class of other highly industrialized nations? Since the recession, the number of unemployed in the U.S. has doubled and there are 50 million people without health insurance as of Sept. 30. American workers average more work hours – the equivalent of nine 40-hour workweeks per year more than most of their European counterparts for about the same monetary value. Compared to an average German worker who has six weeks of federally mandated vacation, free university tuition, free nursing care, and childcare, ... and you say the American poor are better off than the middle class in other parts of the world? I think you have to be more specific about what countries you are referring to.
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Peanut Santiago
01:55 AM on 11/08/2011
Typical Repug think tank bull sh--t.

There are people WORSE off, so don't complain.....blah, blah, blah......

Some people, presumably living well themselves, see nothing wrong with more and more Americans losing what they had through no fault of their own and many, too many are becoming poor and without hope for the future.

Even if the poor in OTHER countries are worse off, I am worried about MY country and what is happening to MY fellow Americans.

Only a person who is comfortable....could see nothing wrong in ever more of his fellow citizens slipping into poverty and despair.

To think we ordinary taxpayers actually bailed out the pigs that did this to us....Wall Street and banks (oligarch money).
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hk usp 45
The Land of the Free is now Freebie Land.
10:25 PM on 11/07/2011
Yes, but how many people has Obama "saved" from poverty?
11:22 PM on 11/07/2011
too many for the GOP to be happy about.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:42 PM on 11/07/2011
he has increased poverty....to record levels.
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Peanut Santiago
01:57 AM on 11/08/2011
For once, I agree with you.
Poverty IS increasing.

And the Party of No (The Repugs who think getting rid of Obama is their only major goal) is probably the biggest factor for NOT helping the American unemployed.
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suds mcduff
we're not perfect, but they're nuts!
05:44 AM on 11/08/2011
You need to look at the Do Nothing Congress for that....
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billw8017
History looks like this
10:14 PM on 11/07/2011
You don't need a great job, but anybody who's working is richer than if they were not working. The increase of poverty is no little thing but it's a matter of life and death. It involves honor and family devotion. But, these are little human considerations, you gotta worry about them for your sake.

As a citizen you care about your country. The government is your government and it should work with you and do the things you are willing to pay for -- for the country's sake.
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John Perozzi
Galt's Gulch or Bust
12:19 AM on 11/08/2011
Actually, I had more money when I didn't have a job.
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Peanut Santiago
01:57 AM on 11/08/2011
And your point is???????
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anitaroosevelt
want some Ayn Rand with those fries?
08:46 AM on 11/08/2011
The government 'was' our government. It's been taken slowly over the last 30 years away from us.
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
10:04 PM on 11/07/2011
I'm a disabled nam vet and will be 60 feb 15th so the wy i see it that makes me a senior.A lot of the problem is that there seems to be no control over the stores etc as to what they can charge for any and everything.If we get a COLA raise,prices will go up more.If the minimum wage increaes then so does everything else.The price increases never match the raises at all even though they try to use that one,it doesn't work for them any more.I think tere needs to be some very strict controls put in place for stores,grocery and all others as well.When it gets close to a holidy of any kind,again prices at all stores jumps significantly.They need to be forced into stopping these practices.There's no reason for the greed thats at the for front of all of this stuff
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loki
cheap politicians for sale
10:47 PM on 11/07/2011
the capitalist groupies will tell you its the law of supply and demand that sets the prices, or , what the market will bare. But when they all fix prices and you are hard pressed to find prices that vary in cents between stores, its price fixing for sure.
My cousin is disabled, and like you , he is trying to survive on a very low income, like 750 a month for him and his 2 daughters. He is a single dad since his wife left him and drained his account after he became disabled in an accident.. thats after working hard at a decent job for over 20 years and paying into the system. I end up helping out every month to pay the bills and feed his kids. I even buy the school uniforms for them and pay for extras. I see just what your talking about with COLA and how hard it is for people to survive on it.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:11 PM on 11/07/2011
wait until we spend 1.5 t a year that we dont have for a few more years....
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:10 PM on 11/07/2011
prices are largely made do to costs.....there are consequences to deficit spending.
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Charles Queen
I am a disabled nam vet
12:36 AM on 11/08/2011
Perhaps for a very small amount of certain things but for the most part it's plain old greed and there needs to be a bill that puts a cap on how much they can raise a lot of things
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Peanut Santiago
01:59 AM on 11/08/2011
Maybe if we didn't have to bail out the id iots on Wall Street and in banks?
Maybe if we didn't wage war for oil?
Maybe if the rich PAID their fair share of taxes, even just the tax rates under Reagan?