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BennBell
07:43 PM on 11/14/2011
Herman Cain continues with his absurd have it both ways answers where he contradict­s himself in the same sentence. He needs to be called out on this. He asserts he doesn't believe in in torture torture period, then goes on to say that he would waterboard­. Waterboard­ing is torture and it violates the Geneva Convention­. This goes against our American values and is unequivoca­lly immoral. Anyone who would engage in it is un-America­n, un-patriot­ic, and a war criminal subject to indictment and certainly has no business being President of the United States of America.
07:43 PM on 11/14/2011
I have been disapointed in John McCain many a time , like if he had told the truth about obama maybe today we wouldnt be in the mess we are in today! I dont even think McCain is a real REP think he goes how ever the wind blows , maybe he is so old he should just go home , He dont seem to stand for anything any more!
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ohohyeah
08:30 PM on 11/14/2011
He stands against torture. Bless him!
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
08:41 PM on 11/14/2011
McCain always stood only for himself
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JustABriefThought
07:40 PM on 11/14/2011
So, if water-boarding is NOT torture, the GOP-TP candidates would be okay with our enemies using water-boarding on our soldiers?

Me thinks I hear the vet and active service vote shifting to the left.
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08:33 PM on 11/14/2011
Again, a poor argument.

Replace "water-boarding" with "firing a weapon". Surely we will not refrain from firing at someone because our enemies might do the same?

Our soldiers will be tortured, they always have, and they'll regardless of our righteous stance on it.

We need a better argument
09:04 PM on 11/14/2011
Okay. Here's a better argument: studies done by the various intelligence agencies have shown absolutely NO correlation between torture (or whatever the new term for it may be) and credible, useful information. The studies show that the victime will "say anythnig" to stop the torture. Torture did NOT bring help this country reach any of it's stated goals.

We ARE better than that!
Logansama
Time Wounds All Heels
09:22 PM on 11/14/2011
Torture has been shown to me an ineffective method of interrogation. Following 9/11, a CIA operative harvested more viable information from captives by giving them cookies. Yes, cookies.
09:42 PM on 11/14/2011
Our government hanged Japanese soldiers during World War II for waterboarding.
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Susann Morgan
My BS Detector is calibrated twice a day.
10:03 PM on 11/14/2011
Funny how people forget the past. F&F for truth!
07:38 PM on 11/14/2011
Why don't John McCain and Obama mention the candidates who said America should not torture. I t was Ron Paul and Huntsman
Ron Paul 2012 Americas last hope!!!
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Keith Cozart
Chaos reigns in Crowley's temple
08:04 PM on 11/14/2011
if Ron Paul is our last hope, we are F U C K E D!
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patters85
OBAMACARES 2.0
09:26 PM on 11/14/2011
Wow! How did that word get thru? I agree with you though.
07:36 PM on 11/14/2011
I was USMC Force Recon, and as part of our training back in the day we were subjected to various forms of "enhanced interrogation" including simulated drowning, which waterboarding is. Believe me, it is torture...
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
08:46 PM on 11/14/2011
I have no doubt that it is, and I am very angry with Obama for not prosecuting last administration for implementing it
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patters85
OBAMACARES 2.0
09:30 PM on 11/14/2011
So you disagree with Michelle Bachmann? She's more experienced than you because she said she was. Your experience sounds like more experience but you aren't on the right side of Michelle. So your experience don't count. See how that works? Well neither does the rest of the world.
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Livid
07:34 PM on 11/14/2011
Nothing new here. Th is the position McCain has taken right along.

Where are the other screamers. Waiting to see which way the wind blows. Romney.
07:34 PM on 11/14/2011
It is difficult to determine the worst of the two punishments --waterboarding, or continuation of the Republican debates.
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patters85
OBAMACARES 2.0
09:33 PM on 11/14/2011
I'd prefer a session of waterboarding over debateboarding any day.
07:27 PM on 11/14/2011
shouldnt a candidate be willing to experience and deal with waterboarding before being for it?

are other techniques not as effective as this? is waterboarding against 8th amendment?
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outofstepper
C21H30O2
07:53 PM on 11/14/2011
Other techniques are much more effective than torture.
07:26 PM on 11/14/2011
John McCain KNOWS torture and none of those other guys have a clue.
07:26 PM on 11/14/2011
Even McCain, who has all but abandon any semblance of rationality over the past two years in his quest to appeal to the most extremist elements of the Republican right; even he, felt obligated to protest this such idiocy.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
08:48 PM on 11/14/2011
Just wait a couple of days, he'll change his mind.
07:20 PM on 11/14/2011
Watching the Republican debate, I was totally turned off by the candidates advocating waterboarding, which has been certified as torture, thinking that they or their children would never be affected by anything pertaining to war because of their refusal to serve, I remember once someone asked Mitt Romney why his five sons had never served, his answer was they were busy helping him get elected as president, he was not elected, and he will not be elected, does that mean that eventually they will have time to serve.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
07:20 PM on 11/14/2011
John McCain is too far left of the rest of his party.
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mabelene
08:03 PM on 11/14/2011
that simply means that John McCain is a true american patriot instead of "just" republican !!
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
09:59 PM on 11/14/2011
I think even most of us dems can go with that.
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l78lancer
Wisdom is the principal thing
07:18 PM on 11/14/2011
Restore waterboarding, bomb Iran, move towards isolationism with regard to trade policies, ignore all foreign policy issues unless they involve Israel.

While the GOP doesn't care, it's no wonder that they world has a totally negative perception of the US and loathes another republican administration.
09:59 PM on 11/14/2011
Whereas libs prefer to see us hitch rides with the Russians, weaken our nuclear power and follow Greece and Italy into massive debt.
07:13 PM on 11/14/2011
McCane has waffled on many things, but one thing he has never done, and that's change his mind on torture. I'm no fan of his, but I admire his tenacity on this subject. Huntsman and Ron Paul are they only ones with the strength of characted to row against the flow and maintain their own beliefs when ALL the others Tea Bag lacky's rubber stamp torture. I would NEVER vote for a person that is stupid enough to believe that torture, or the threat of torture, will miraclously 'flip' a prisoner. GEEZE....we expect those clowns to think straight onece elected president. John McCane has more morals in his little finger that those 'torture enthusiasts' most of whom never served in the military, and would turn into Jello if they did. It's easy being brave when one is not involved directly.
08:31 PM on 11/14/2011
How did Romney evade military service?
10:00 PM on 11/14/2011
How did Obama evade it?
07:13 PM on 11/14/2011
Unfortunately, Senator McCain, you were a profound disappointment in 2008. The only reason you received my vote in that election is I didn't want to vote for Obama! You are a fine one to pronounce your disappointment with the current slate of candidates. Any one of them would be a better candidate than you were in 2008.
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librul1001
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
07:40 PM on 11/14/2011
He's much better than the "current slate" and so far below President Obama it would be ludicrous to say otherwise.
07:44 PM on 11/14/2011
pat, AMEN!!!! F&F