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Gaylord P Farqua 05:49 PM on 02/06/2012
The "old guard GOP" is in a state of confusion. With Romney they have the poster boy for their values who is actually too good to be true. Romney is the classic what you see is what you get. He is enormously rich and totally without a clue as to how the average American lives. He is awkward around regular folks and totally incapable of even carrying on a conversation with them. So far the TPGOP has sifted  Read More...
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drhooper
Hurting people...hurt others
02:13 AM on 02/07/2012
The Right is to right for most Republicans.....John McCain clearly does not support the direction of his party. He better be careful....they will be getting rid of him like they did Michael Steel. Common sense is simply not tolerated.
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sallybutt45
To thine own self be true.
02:44 AM on 02/07/2012
Rachel had on her show a couple of days ago, where that self-deportation schpiel came from. It was a satire launched by a Hispanic radio jockey in response to the racism against Mexicans in California. It was tongue-in-cheek, and it shows up in Romney speeches-----amazing how political plagiarism works. Eh,Doc?
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Meldy1
Nurse&Pianist,but I don't have to work!
02:00 AM on 02/07/2012
Typical republican way..they are LOONS!Endorsing & attacking!Leaving and coming back!ala Combed Trumped!
01:29 AM on 02/07/2012
I'm starting to think that John McCain and Newt Gingrich were separated at birth.
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Meldy1
Nurse&Pianist,but I don't have to work!
02:05 AM on 02/07/2012
LOONS they are,what is this?Endorsing and then vlilifying?McMisled has been misled sinced he was born.Ala Combed Trumped.Leaving the party or changing party then endorses it.McCain while campaigning for Romney has only said one truth in his 36 years in office,that President Obama will turn around the economy,and he did!
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jordan2
Constitution...See:The Originalist Perspective
01:28 AM on 02/07/2012
I am no fan of McCain but what's with all of the criticism if no one has a solution? I have not seen anyone here post an answer to the issue.

Here are some choices:

http://immigration.procon.org/
Biblebelt Socialist
-Insert inflammatory remark here-
02:56 AM on 02/07/2012
I think the concern is that McCain keeps saying we need to be careful because we need the Latino vote, which I guess is the pragmatic approach, but it's like watching a magician do a card trick by showing you first how the trick works... does he think people will then fall for it?
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jordan2
Constitution...See:The Originalist Perspective
03:15 PM on 02/07/2012
If you think this is political, then IMO both sides are losing badly.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
09:15 AM on 02/07/2012
The answer lies in history and what we see happening now.

History has shown we grant amnesty many more will come no matter how much future promised enforcement we have. We know because we have done it 7 times and the problem is many times larger now. We also know the promised enforcement will never occur because we have been promised enforcement before.

Our current state level laws has also shown us that illegals will leave on their own if we enact laws making it harder for them to stay and remove a few of the costly rewards for them in the first place.

We have many groups who want illegals here. They have boatloads of money because they keep wages low for all of us in many differing job categories. Big business, the chamber, wall street and all kinds of employers love illegals.
We also have groups who want their family/friends here. Since the first amnesty in 1986 this demand has skyrocketed. Many feel they are now owed because they did the same things their family/friends did with one of the other amnesties.

Most agree we must have limits. 310 million now. 600 million this century with no amnesty/increases. Shortages of everything already like water, energy, etc. Do we really want to look like china or india? Do we really want to have our legacy for the next generations to be one of much lower quality of life?
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jordan2
Constitution...See:The Originalist Perspective
03:14 PM on 02/07/2012
Thanks for your well considered reply but again, there are no realistic solutions.
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chimera2
Molly Ivins should have been here for this
01:05 AM on 02/07/2012
The humane approach until after the election in November. Once the votes are in, back to 'normal'.
01:34 AM on 02/07/2012
Man are you right. And McCain sure didn't try to sugar coat it... to QUOTE...

In an interview on Sunday with Univision, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) criticized Mitt Romney's "self-deportation" immigration policy, stating that Republicans should adopt a "very humane approach" to immigration in order to secure Latino voters.

Repeat... in order to secure Latino Voters.

Ok so you're NOT doing it to be humane, but to get Latino votes.

That's almost as bad as Romney saying, I didn't have a illegal immigrant mowing my lawn... to which Romney replied, I'm running for president, so I can't have an illegal immigrant mowing my lawn.

Not because its wrong or right, just because it would make him look bad as a presidential candidate.

How CLUELESS are these guys???
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GoDems2012
YOU are the change!
01:51 AM on 02/07/2012
"I'm running for President for Pete's sake!"
12:50 AM on 02/07/2012
Self-deportation is very popular among illegal Mexicans in the US. It's shames them into leaving and going back to Mexico even though they hate living in Mexico.
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PollyTics
08:40 AM on 02/07/2012
WHAT? Surely this is satire...yes?
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MarvinMarks
Obama 2012.
12:45 AM on 02/07/2012
"self deportation" has to be the dumbest thing I've heard in quite some time and that's really saying something because I pay quite a bit of attention to politics.
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jordan2
Constitution...See:The Originalist Perspective
01:29 AM on 02/07/2012
And what is your solution to the issue?
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Vernon Gudger
01:40 AM on 02/07/2012
Jordan2, what is your solution?
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PollyTics
08:43 AM on 02/07/2012
Self Deportation is a joke, hardly a solution to anything but a really good belly laugh!
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GoDems2012
YOU are the change!
01:52 AM on 02/07/2012
It was originally satire to California's Prop 187 back in the 90s. I used to live there and Rachel did a good story on it last week.
12:21 AM on 02/07/2012
Senator McCain is a hipocrite who sees the writing on the wall. We are rejecting your invitation to the party that has for the past six years treated our community with outright hate and disdain. How can we Children of Immigrants, proud of our language an economic advantage and cognizant of the unlimited potential of Hispanics in America forget the calls for massive deportations, the racial profiling, the unjust and inhumane laws that have been passed in Arizona, Alabama and attempted and rejected in Texas. From being a champion of Immigration Reform with Senator Kennedy to being the anti immigrant that he has become, shame on you Senator for saying we should be compassionate. Where is your compassion?
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jordan2
Constitution...See:The Originalist Perspective
01:24 AM on 02/07/2012
And your solution is?
01:49 AM on 02/07/2012
My solution is to have form a bi partisan commission on Immigration to come up with an acceptable Immigration plan that is both humane and meets the needs of America, There has been no communication no give and take. I can tell you I have been involved in some of the most public battles on Immigration leading the charge in Farmers Branch and in Irving Texas. if 11 million Immigrants paid a one time fine, how much would that generate. If say half of these Immigrants purchased new trucks and or new cars, how much woul that generate in income. If those Immigrants purchased homes at an average of $125,000, how much would that generate. If they created businesses how many new jobs would be created. We are not talking about jobs that Americans do not want we are talking about a major econmic stimulus program that would generate billions to the American economy, and not just 50 billion but more. That is what we need to start talking about not hate or compassion, but how is Immigration good for America. We already know that there are labor shortages in Kansas, Alabama and Georgia. We also know that despite misinformation Immigrants contribute significantly to the GNP of America. In conclusion, no one is against deporting criminals and securing the borders.
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Meldy1
Nurse&Pianist,but I don't have to work!
02:07 AM on 02/07/2012
McMisleading......
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Jo Hargis
09:11 AM on 02/07/2012
He left his compassion in Arizona. Yeah, he fits right in in Arizona now. And Jordan? Since you keep on asking, I'll say this. This country was founded on immigration, and it's time to stop the war on immigrants who are trying to find a better life for themselves and their families. Virtually all these people coming over want to do the right thing, they're more than willing to be law abiding citizens, they work hard. It's time to embrace them and give them a chance to prove they can be good citizens just like the rest of us. Smooth the paths to citizenship and we wouldn't have such a problem with people entering illegally. No, it won't erase the problem but good god, give people some hope and a chance. No one deserves the treatment they've gotten in places like Alabama. Shameful for a nation like ours, founded on immigration.
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jordan2
Constitution...See:The Originalist Perspective
03:26 PM on 02/07/2012
I get sick of the political rhetoric. Surely, by now, both parties should have solved this. Every time some one proposes one, that person gets hammered. My opinion is that we must first seal the borders to stop more from coming in. Then we must have a sensible solution for those already here. If it's an economic solution, so what? Quit crying the blues and get it over with it.
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
12:21 AM on 02/07/2012
McCain in my waking dream: "We're Republicans.  We don't care about "people," we just care about how they vote.  We want them to think that when we tighten up border security, we are doing so "humanely."  When we round up and deport illegals, we want them to say we did it humanely.  When we deny them emergency health care, we want to deny them humanely.  So vote Republican.  It's the humane thing to do."

On second thought, that was no waking dream-- it was a nightmare.
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rschli7137
12:06 AM on 02/07/2012
Need to channel Reagan from the dead. He granted amnesty to 3 million illegals who entered the country before 1982! This, in turn, helped millions more family members to stay in the US. How come the Pubs weren't hollering then?
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jonandian
Small Business Owner RepubliCANT Debater
12:06 AM on 02/07/2012
Seems like grandpa is flip flopping on another thing he once supported. McCain has a bad habit of not vetting people he supports
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
12:01 AM on 02/07/2012
John, you just half endorsed him last month (remember you slipped and said you thought President Obama will pull this economy through?).
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rschli7137
12:00 AM on 02/07/2012
Wow! Cranky ol' John slamming his endorsement! Guess even the Pubs can't stand the Pubs!
Obama/2012...count on it!
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grasspress
11:55 PM on 02/06/2012
hey john, one way to 'win over [latino and latina] voters' is to treat them with some respect. your 'dream act' non-support is a sure-fire explanation of why most of them will not vote republican this time around, nor should they. this act is a decent and positive way to include an important group of americans in the citizenship of the usa, won't cost the country a dime, and will add to its security and economic growth, and you should be ashamed for not advocating for it.

do you think latino and latina voters are so stupid to not see through republican hypocrisy?
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chimera2
Molly Ivins should have been here for this
01:08 AM on 02/07/2012
The republicans think all voters are stupid.
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ScribL
Shared Sacrifice, Social Justice
11:48 PM on 02/06/2012
What a joke there's no such thing as self deportation didn't McCain see Maddow on Fri!
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PollyTics
08:45 AM on 02/07/2012
Here is the fictitious Daniel D Portato's infamous website, it's hilarious :
http://selfdeport.org/2012/01/27/daniel-d-portado/