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SoCalifTeacher
I yell because I care.
08:32 AM on 02/20/2012
$98 Billion ($98, 000,000,000,000) - double the original cost projection and will always have to be subsidized by California taxpayers. Maybe if this state stopped giving illegal alien/anchor baby families $40,000 a year on top of the $12 billion spent on illegal aliens and if the state saves up for the train, Jerry Brown can build it in 2025.
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turnleft4progress
What value is generosity through God's coercion.
11:02 AM on 02/20/2012
The propaganda of the 1% has thoroughly worked on you. "Divide and Conquer" Your problems and the problem of the state is due to the poorest residence of Califorina with the least power. While others of concluded, wrongly I might add, that you and your bloated Compensation, and Pension are at fault. I'm sure it's amusing for the 1% to watch the working class at war with each other. The fact is you and your union would benefit from an alliance with Illegal aliens. You continue to fight for the crumbs. To conclude, "Anchor Baby" comical and an offense on our constitution. It goes to the very foundation of this great nation, and frankly if you don't like the constitution. The world if filled with countries that don't extend any rights to the children of illegal immigrants.
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Polar Shift
Can't fix stoopid
11:03 PM on 02/22/2012
turnleft, HOOORAAAH!!!
04:33 AM on 02/20/2012
build the damn train
09:08 AM on 02/20/2012
Why?
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mlmn08
Lord, please protect me from your followers.
10:33 AM on 02/20/2012
its the 21st century....lets get moving.
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KMoore4318
Sarcasm/Satire; Google it !!!
11:49 AM on 02/20/2012
Because a high speed train will help califoriana get to it's destanation faster; Shhhhh Dont tell anyone their destenation is Bankrupts Vill.
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giftsthatpurr
Lovely life
01:34 PM on 02/20/2012
yes
frankieshoes1
lookitupyerdamnedself
02:59 AM on 02/20/2012
I do not understand how people can ride the freeways and sit in traffic and say they do not want high speed rail. It is certainly cheaper than running your car around and much more enjoyable than sitting in traffic with horns beeping and middle fingers flying.
03:48 AM on 02/20/2012
If this boondoggle were financially feasable, investors from the private sector would be interested. The tri-rail system in the Miami, Fl. area had to reach into the publics pocket again last year for $63 million shortfalls in ridership fees. If this were private business, it would be shut down NOW. But since its "only taxpayers money" govt continues to shovel money down the toilet. I live in Fla, and we went through this "high speed train to nowhere" crap. All the local network news services including Fox criticized Gov. Scott for saying "thanks, but no thanks" to obamas offer of taxpayers money. Now they are all so strangely silent about California's problem of the carrot on the stick. Not even a thirty second blip. Socialist hipocrits.
03:55 AM on 02/20/2012
No they would not, no system of public transportation anywhere makes a profit, not highways not airports not waterways, even the private companies that operate on them do not make a profit without the public subsidies for right-of-way construction and maintenance.
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Obrand
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08:37 AM on 02/20/2012
Speaking of hypocrites, no private industry would think of investing in any public transportation unless there were huge government subsidies.

Altruistic motives will never fund private industry, only free money as a substitute for profit
SoCalifTeacher
I yell because I care.
08:35 AM on 02/20/2012
You ride the train to the nearest station in LA. You still have 30 miles to get to your destination. What are you going to do? Rent a car or take a taxi? Because there are no busses or subways that are going to get you where you need to go.
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turnleft4progress
What value is generosity through God's coercion.
11:27 AM on 02/20/2012
I own a car, but choose to travel by masstransit all the time. I get any place I want to go in Los Angeles. I have no idea where you live, but you can't expect to have public transit in VictorVille, or the Simi Valley. You choose a car dependant life. I love being able to drive when ever I choose, but I am not dependant on my car to move around the city,
frankieshoes1
lookitupyerdamnedself
12:30 PM on 02/20/2012
Does the plane drop you off at your door? And the reason there are no subways is exactly why we are having this discussion. We have spent 98.5% of our transportation budget on everything but rail-the most efficient.
If you build it they will come(transportation to your door)
02:38 AM on 02/20/2012
Maybe he should start by rescuing a cat or a dog from a shelter.
02:13 AM on 02/20/2012
In England they're paying $10.00 a gallon for gas.....we're going to wish we had decent public transportation when gas gets that high here....are we going to wait and THEN do something?
frankieshoes1
lookitupyerdamnedself
03:01 AM on 02/20/2012
If Rick Scott is against it then it has to be good for the country.
03:56 AM on 02/20/2012
Look at Rick Scott's favorability ratings, he is the least popular governor in the US right now.
03:57 AM on 02/20/2012
Why? because he's not willing to waste my tax money on another govt money loser. So I can ride a speedy train from downtown Tampa(how do I get there? Drive, pay to park, come back to a vandalized car) and get to Orlando, rent a car, and drive some more). Flawed project from flawed minds. If the govt. is involved, it will fail
09:12 AM on 02/20/2012
We do need public transportation but this is not it. Nobody uses bullet trains to commute in other countries. It's too expensive, the tickets cost a fortune. In Japan where they have had bullet trains for a long time, they are not used by most commuters, they are used by executives to get to their homes in the distant countryside. They use a lot of regular trains to get around and it works very well.
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mlmn08
Lord, please protect me from your followers.
10:39 AM on 02/20/2012
not true, I have used high speed rail to go from Amsterdam to Paris...it was exactly on time and was magnificent..........and full capacity.
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turnleft4progress
What value is generosity through God's coercion.
11:29 AM on 02/20/2012
That is not true. Clearly, you have never been or heard of Japan. Look it up.
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svasol
Environment means we are all in this together
02:09 AM on 02/20/2012
Critics of Jerry Brown have always been wrong. It takes risks to do something great. My guess is that he is a visionary and is making the right bet. And no one can ever called Brown short on guts.
04:00 AM on 02/20/2012
I can be a visionary too, if I can waste tax money. Your "guess" is riding on tax dollars. He's not short on guts, it's short on brains.
04:23 AM on 02/20/2012
I consider more lanes of interstate to be a "waste of money" and a "boondoggle".
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10:38 AM on 02/20/2012
Never short on guts, only brain.......
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svasol
Environment means we are all in this together
04:25 PM on 02/20/2012
Based on what??? Only a right wing propaganda sponge could say he is short of brains…

He has been a fiscal conservative, environmentally conscious, no nonsense leader his whole career.

He has cleaned up Republican, polluting, insurance etc. corruption and doing it without being overly partisan or grand-standing.

Mass transit infrastructure has been building future economies since the Great Canal 1500 years ago. Yes it’s very easy to criticize anyone trying to build infrastructure these days.

Clear Channel radio and TV will fill you with lots of zeal and sell you consumer good commercials all at the same time. What a deal!
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hazyafternoonsunshine
Life's a ball, buster!
01:37 AM on 02/20/2012
Great idea, but why so long? I would definitely use it if I am still alive when it is completed.
09:13 AM on 02/20/2012
No you won't because it will be too expensive. If your ticket cost around $50.00, I doubt very much you would be commuting on it even if it ran anywhere hear a commute corridor. Which it will not.
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mlmn08
Lord, please protect me from your followers.
10:41 AM on 02/20/2012
don't you get tired of being so negative?
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hazyafternoonsunshine
Life's a ball, buster!
12:27 AM on 02/21/2012
$50 from LA to SF? You bet I'd pay that. About the same as the gas, less time and aggrivation, and less wear and tear on the car. Not to mention the hassel free ride and ability to read or nap or do anything other than concentrate on driving. Sounds great to me!
01:01 AM on 02/20/2012
We should of had this high speed Rail system 15 years ago.
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Chris Berman
11:49 PM on 02/19/2012
No...because his state is bankrupt and businesses are fleeing the state as quickly as possible.
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hazyafternoonsunshine
Life's a ball, buster!
01:38 AM on 02/20/2012
The state is bankrupt because of the war on drugs. No war, no bankruptcy.
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Polar Shift
Can't fix stoopid
11:26 PM on 02/22/2012
Chris, Except that the growth projection by 2030 is about 1.5 million MORE residents. We have more innovators, inventors, and tech geniuses here than in ANYWHERE else in this country. And they aren't going ANYWHERE.
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LVNVprog
Keep Your Hands Off My Obamacare
11:43 PM on 02/19/2012
Tell the Europeans how so yesterday Infastructure is, with Gasoline Prives hovering around 10 - 12 Dollars Per Gallon. Highways with Smart Design allowing travel at over 100MPH, Trains even faster, New Bridges and Tunnels to make travel more efficient. Yes all of Europe is still smaller than the U.S., however most of the U.S, population is concentrated on the coasts and is actually denser than Europe. The only Dense thing we have is the Republican Party of the 19th Century.
12:05 AM on 02/20/2012
Europeans are what they are and Americans are not like them. High speed rail has no real market. It is an idea whose time passed during the Truman Administration. Today, it is a collosal waste of taxpayer money. If, and it is a huge if, it could make money, private resources would be all over it. However, your understanding or railroads and the economy are based upon progressive fantasies not reality. Anything that government insists it must do, like high speed rail, is done for political purposes, to award federal dollars and state dollars without ever having to turn a steel wheel on a steel rail. If it was worth doing, we would already have it. The Interstate Commerce Commission nearly killed the railroad industry. But, regardless of the cost of a gallon of gas, the high speed rail only goes where it goes and goes when it goes. It is not there when you want it, it is there when they want to run it. Keep deluding yourself, but stop advoicating wasting tax dollars.
01:13 AM on 02/20/2012
Highways don't "make money" nor do airports: are they a "colossal waste of money"? I think you must yearn for an era when we are all getting around on foot.
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AJP2565
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02:08 AM on 02/20/2012
Yeah, just like blowing up Iraq, and Afganistan right?
09:15 AM on 02/20/2012
Most Europeans use regular trains. This is just more liberal ideology at work, pushing something we can't afford over practical solutions that aren't as 'sexy'. If you were going broke, like this state is, would you chose to buy a Porsche or pay your mortgage?
11:36 PM on 02/19/2012
Unfortunately, high speed intercity passenger rail will not work in the US. Our culture and our geography are against it working as it does elsewhere. Americans are married to their automobiles and aren't going to get on a train that goes faster than Amtrak. Because, in America, they will need to rent cars when they get where they are going. Because, Americans, by and large, eschewed rail travel 50 years ago.
Massive over regulation by the Interstate Commerce Commission virtually killed railroads in the US. They couldn't make money because they were not allowed to innovate, to price their service according to volume and because there were routes the ICC wouldn't allow them to abandon, regardless of the lack of traffic on those routes. Freight railroads ran passenger service as a loss leader and when Amtrak was formed to take the passenger burden off the freight railroads, they continued to lose money until the Staggers Act deregulated railroads. Freight railroads are very profitable today and Amtrak always loses money, despite it high federal and state subsidies.
There is no market for high speed rail in the US and everyone knows that, including the politicians who are trying to suck of federal rail dollars as fast as they can. That is also why many states are refusing the money because there is no call for such service in the US. None.
01:11 AM on 02/20/2012
No system of public transportation anywhere "makes money": highways, airports, waterways all do not earn a profit, and to hold rail transportation to a standard that you don't hold the other modes to is hypocritical. As for your contention that there is something unusual about Americans that makes them unwilling to ride public transportation: that argument has been made in every city in the US prior to light rail etc. being introduced, and in every city it has been wrong, and the patronage has always exceeded by far the original estimates. The reason Americans rely on cars to get around more heavily than people in Europe is that we have no other choice, and when offered a choice it turns out that we aren't different at all.
01:35 AM on 02/20/2012
Light rail and commuter rail are not intercity high speed rail. They are as dissimilar as airplanes and buggies, Your mind is made up. Thankfully, you don't factor in the decision to waste our money and time. Enough. Keep your thoughts to yourself. They don't inform the discussion.
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Polar Shift
Can't fix stoopid
11:41 PM on 02/22/2012
General, In the 30s' LA had a great inner city electric rail system, until Goodyear, oil companies, and Detroit BUS manufacturers BOUGHT the LA mayor and his minions off, and they tore out those rails and PARKED the BRAND NEW CARS that never sat on a rail the day they were delivered, and they are STILL there, collecting dust and rust. All to PROFIT the few, and COST to the residents, even though they FOUGHT tooth and nail against it. It ought to be OBVIOUS that a system that carries more people per trip is a MUCH better bargain.
01:53 AM on 02/20/2012
hear! hear!
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KarmaPatrol
Riverboat gambler Satellite whisperer I-Ind./Irony
11:30 PM on 02/19/2012
If more people choose Southern California and gasoline keeps rising, I do not see much of a choice. Presently LAX can be a zoo and driving out of LA on the interstates usually happens at 15 MPH (kind of defeats the purpose of an interstate).
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AmericanCynic
Sarcasm: It's a way of life
11:52 PM on 02/19/2012
Yes but at 15 mph, you can drive free with a Prius. Just leave a real lot of time.
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Polar Shift
Can't fix stoopid
11:46 PM on 02/22/2012
Cynic, If you can afford one, first of all, or realize that buying a new car, no matter the mileage, actually does more environmental damage than keeping an older one in tip-top condition until about the tenth year.Blind consumerism does more damage than recycling and carpooling. Besides, NO gas cars are coming eventually. During WW2, Europeans converted their cars to WOOD burning.
SoCalifTeacher
I yell because I care.
08:38 AM on 02/20/2012
People in the Inland Empire would love to fly out of Ontario. This airport is controlled by LAX and continues to see the number of flights offered drop so people are forced to go to LAX.
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KarmaPatrol
Riverboat gambler Satellite whisperer I-Ind./Irony
10:34 AM on 02/20/2012
It may be the airlines trying to consolidate flights too - eventually the Metro should link up to Ontario and Burbank (John Wayne) airports.
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Dinkum Olam
11:08 PM on 02/19/2012
The country was economically depressed when we built the Hoover dam. What were the conditions that the railroads were built? How about the freeway system? Route 66? Great achievements that benefit society come from people with great vision for the future. This is one of those projects.
01:39 PM on 02/23/2012
High speed intercity passenger rail is not vision, it is a concept that the American public will not embrace. You may be in love with the concept and there are fellow travelers posting on here but unless you, personally, have the cash to build it, your state and the US cannot possibly afford to build it. Your concept of how the world works and reality are not the same thing. High speed rail is not a great achievement. It is an idea that the American public rejected 60 years ago, at any speed.
Don't confuse light rail or commuter rail with intercity passenger rail. They are not the same thing. You cannot run high speed trains except for long trips of 100 miles or more, otherwise you are only at high speed for a few minutes then you are slowing for the next stop. Real high speed would be something like Sacramento to Los Angeles with NO stops in between. But, there is not the ridership for such a run. Also, you cannot mix Amtrak, Union Pacific and Burlington Northern Sante Fe freight trains and Caltrain on the same set of tracks. High speed rail has to have its own line away from the other rail traffic and without any grade crossings and fully fenced to keep out animals and pedestrians.
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Giovanni Pivirotto
10:55 PM on 02/19/2012
Amazing how the soundbites from the naysayers are exactly the same, same words same phrasing. Not an original independent thought in the bunch.

For the sake of all of our futures, build it and we will all benefit.
12:10 AM on 02/20/2012
Since you know less than nothing about railroads and less than that about high speed rail, it is laughable to read your goofy comments. For the sake of our futures, scrap the boondoggle and try something that works. The only beneficiaries of high speed rail projects are those who build the stuff. NO ONE WANTS TO ACTUALLY RIDE IT. If intercity passenger rail had an real market Amtrak would be a success. It is not. It is a massive failure. If the subsidies to Amtrak stopped the only people riding trains would be train crews and hobos.
01:19 AM on 02/20/2012
Rubbish. There are parts of the country where rail is the only practical alternative, cheaper than either flying or even driving and much more comfortable, because rail is the most efficient mode of transportation: once it is built it uses far less energy than either aircraft or cars.
03:15 AM on 02/20/2012
hear! hear!
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AJP2565
2012, our best year since 2006!
02:18 AM on 02/20/2012
I'm sure there were people just like DetCaption crying no when all those great project were built too.
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ubringliten
ilovebikingSF
09:55 PM on 02/19/2012
California's 2010 GDP is at 1.9 trillion dollars and this is chump change. Look at this way, what did we get out of two wars at $10 billion a month? Nothing.

$98 billions cost over 10-20 years to build, again, does not strain California's budget at the very least.
04:40 AM on 02/20/2012
I'm glad you're not my bookeeper. The wars have nothing to do with high speed rail, and California is broke now, but 98 billion won't strain the budget. You need to go to work in Washington DC, you think just like a politician. Most working people have had a belly full of politicians spending other peoples money. I'm so fed up that if ANYTHING comes up on a ballot that asks for more money, my answer is NO and I don't care what it's for. If I decie I want a new car, I must figure out how to pay for it, not tell my boss I need more money. I have to live within my budget. Let the govt do the same.
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turnleft4progress
What value is generosity through God's coercion.
11:40 AM on 02/20/2012
Interesting, and you most likely get back more in benefits than the taxes you pay. Why don't you account for your usage of roads, public parks, public schools, police department, fire department, coast guard, border patrol, public libraries, airports, beaches, the administration of our state and country. Your not advocatin anarchy. Are you?