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11:49 PM on 03/13/2012
Great! Mississippi's new voter ID law should be blocked next.
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12:13 PM on 03/14/2012
The difference is that MS's voter ID law was decided on by an overwhelming majority of the state's citizens in a referendum vote instead of by the legislature. Every single one of my friends on the left "Yes" to the referendum.
Personally I would be happy to see the administration create an election year nightmare for themselves by finally coming out and stating that they do not care about the wishes of citizens in regards to how their state is governed.
Also, I was the key witness for the GOP in 2008 when I worked as a poll watcher and had 9 pages of notes on illegal polling place activities in Greenville. So your "voter fraud isn't a serious issue" excuse doesn't work with me. I've seen it... and I helped stop them : )
02:39 PM on 03/14/2012
"A Voter ID initiative approved last year still has to meet approval by the United States Justice Department before implementation. Beyond that, the Mississippi Legislature must enact a so-called enabling law in order to fully implement the new law.
That enabling law must also be cleared by the Justice Department.
"It has to go to the Legislature to work out all the details and then it will have to have Justice Department approval, deputy DeSoto Circuit Clerk for Elections Marla Treadway said.
Mississippi officials are confident the state's new voter ID constitutional amendment will pass muster despite the Justice Department's rejection of a similar South Carolina law requiring voters to show photo identification at the polls.
"The Supreme Court has ruled that voter ID is constitutional, and we believe that Mississippi's plan for implementing voter ID will be constitutional as well," Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann said.
Under the federal 1965 Voting Rights Act, both South Carolina and Mississippi must seek pre-clearance from federal officials before making changes to election procedures because of their history of discrimination against black voters."
Read the rest of the story here: http://www.desototimes.com/articles/2012/03/02/news/doc4f4eb9f33b224850219493.txt
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Eleanor Ruby Moon
Writer, Air-race Pilot, Australian
11:33 PM on 03/13/2012
So, the "greatest country in the world" can't get even figure out how to enable its citizens to vote correctly. It's a circus. Every state in the US has a different set of rules for what is an inalienable right. States have no right of interference in inalienable rights. But you should figure this out in the next several hundred years or so.

Maybe that's too optimistic. I mean it's taken several hundred years so far and you're still mucking around going in every direction but forward.
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jstanavgguy
Proud member of the evil 1%
12:57 AM on 03/15/2012
Gun ownership is an inalienable right.

but the left not only encourages state interference in that, they want INCREASED interference.
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Eleanor Ruby Moon
Writer, Air-race Pilot, Australian
11:46 AM on 03/15/2012
jstanavgguy: LOL, no wonder you can't get voting straight if you confuse it with gun rights. You would probably prefer to shoot than vote. Oh well, your country dude.
09:42 AM on 03/16/2012
Now that is funny, apply the same constitutional principle to the second amendment, yeah, I know, that is different.....
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art69z
Government has become too big for its britches
10:50 PM on 03/13/2012
Let see...what are some of the things I do that required ID...ummmmm. I got a library card 6 months ago..they wanted an ID...I cashed my paycheck at a bank where I didn't have an account...they asked for 2 forms of ID and a thumbprint...I went into a dance club in Baltimore..and even though I have grey hair...was asked to show ID....when I check in at BWI to fly on Delta, I was asked for ID...when my son buys cigarettes...he is asked for ID....when I had to sign out my girl friend son early from school...I was asked for ID....so, if I'm a citizen in the United States and don't have an ID....I probably fall into one of the following categories....too young to vote...an illegal alien with a fake ID....a felon with an outstanding warrant...homeless with no known address...or just too stupid to fill out a ID application....except for the homeless and stupid, the others are not eligible to vote anyways...I'm all for a voters ID....no ID...no vote, simple soluton to stop the fraud and let the votes of the dead stay in the graveyards...
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11:42 PM on 03/13/2012
Very well put.
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Sandy Goforth
OWS a call to restore morailty to our institutions
01:07 AM on 03/14/2012
You cant visit the Statue of liberty or a Colombia Univ event without photo ID.

Planned Parenthood- yup requires a photo ID.
10:08 PM on 03/13/2012
If you need and I.d. call the local republican party and they will be glad to help you. Just tell them where to reach you and they will be out there to sign you up.
luvdatbobcat
4 more years of no jobs, no change, and no hope.
10:40 PM on 03/13/2012
As will the Democratic Party.
11:51 PM on 04/15/2012
Whether republican or democratic liberal
09:57 PM on 03/13/2012
How do we get rid of holder, he is the worst attorney general ever.
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tdnesn
09:21 AM on 03/14/2012
Two words... John Ashcroft
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REMEMBER2050
Socialism for the rich; capitalism for the poor.
12:21 PM on 03/14/2012
What--for defending the most important right every citizen has? Please note the point of his argument against Texas: the state CANNOT prove this law is not discriminatory. No chit, Sherlock.
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gwrit
09:41 PM on 03/13/2012
Let's face it. The demographics from the election in 08 show that an very high number of Hispanics voted in the election. I saw democrats bringing them in by the busload to vote at my polling place. Very few spoke any English at all. How many of these do you think got voter registration cards with no proof whatsoever of who they were.Made me sick to see it. Yeah no fraud there.
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11:55 AM on 03/14/2012
Got any proof?
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REMEMBER2050
Socialism for the rich; capitalism for the poor.
12:23 PM on 03/14/2012
Oh, please. Nobody's issuing clown licenses today. You're frikkin' county officials certify eligible voters. Guess what else? Your Bush administration DOJ INVESTIGATED VOTER FRAUD FOR FIVE YEARS AND CONCLUDED THERE BASICALLY WAS NONE: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/12/washington/12fraud.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

I'll tell you what makes me sick to death: it's the GOP unable to win on the issues, so attempting to disenfranchise millions of voters BASED ON A LIE.
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snapper123
I Love You So Much (It Hurts)
09:25 PM on 03/13/2012
Anything the ACLU is against is probably a good idea by me.
01:07 AM on 03/14/2012
I suppose if your 13-year old daughter was strip-searched by her school officials, you would be OK with that?

http://www.aclu.org/drug-law-reform/aclu-challenges-unlawful-strip-search-over-ibuprofen-allegation-school
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snapper123
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07:40 AM on 03/14/2012
My first thought would be why was my daughter stripped searched? If there was justifiable cause then yes I would have to accept that it was done for the good of her and her classmates.
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jstanavgguy
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12:58 AM on 03/15/2012
Can you please equate voter ID laws to a strip search?
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11:57 AM on 03/14/2012
I know you didn't mean that. They reading this and then well be happy to accept your apology.

http://www.aclu.org/aclu-history
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snapper123
I Love You So Much (It Hurts)
12:51 PM on 03/14/2012
Thank for that link Art! Will check that out at a better time. It is kind of you to provide a link for the information.
I will say that I may have been a bit facetious.
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amluvinit2
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08:09 PM on 03/13/2012
Let's count how many times in the past 4 years that the GOP has tried to split up this nation by talking nonsense. Demonizing people. Why do you think this is such a huge issue right now? It's because the GOP knows it can't win otherwise. Is there voter fraud, probably on both sides, but what the GOP is doing is much bigger. They are dividing and still trying to conquer. Faux News is their machine.
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08:25 PM on 03/13/2012
(two wrongs dont make a right). I find Ed on msnbc so warm, cuddly, and unifying.
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amluvinit2
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08:42 PM on 03/13/2012
I never said two wrongs make a right. What I am saying is wake up. This division is too much for this country.
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12:00 PM on 03/14/2012
So, what's your point. If Ed's show doesn't excuse Fox's behavior, as your comment seems to suggest, why mention it?
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gwrit
09:35 PM on 03/13/2012
Here in TN all you need to do is go online and print out a form, fill it out and mail it in and you have a voter registration card. That's not right. There is no check or balance in this process. These laws supposedly disenfranchise Hispanic voters. Could that be because they have no way to get valid ID that has nothing to do with money. IN order to get an ID you need PROOF of who you are. Without this law you need NO PROOF. Once man even went so far as to prove anyone could get a voter registration card, by registering his dog! If I get pulled over by a police officer he is going to ask for my DL or ID. If I do not have it I go to jail. However, when they stop someone of possible Hispanic descent they can do nothing because it is considered racial profiling. Go figure that one out the next time you are pulled over.
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gyp46
07:30 PM on 03/13/2012
Land of the free, home of the brave. Used to be unconstitutional (probably still would be except for unconstitutional acts like the patriot act) to be stopped and asked for I.D. Our rights are disappearing, the frog is boiling. I have been voting since 1968 and never needed anything but a voters registration with current address. The more the gov's ask and demand the less free we are.
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08:27 PM on 03/13/2012
Nicely stated. If not for voting....is there ever a time that one should have to prove citizenship?
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IndependentRule
There are two many Parties in Washington..
02:00 AM on 03/14/2012
Enlisting in the Armed Forces....
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1intheSame
don't believe everything you think
07:46 AM on 03/14/2012
...these days, maybe so. We're not in Kansas anymore.
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canoeal
Wooden Boatbuilder, Hab 3:17-18
07:26 PM on 03/13/2012
I was told someone tried to use my name to vote last November...I had already voted on an absenttee ballot and was in Guatemala...Please don't tell me there is no voter fraud...
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08:28 PM on 03/13/2012
Only the "other side" perpetrates voter fraud. Not us.
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gwrit
09:36 PM on 03/13/2012
BULL!
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BeasTT
06:39 PM on 03/13/2012
How dare you make me prove I can vote !
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canoeal
Wooden Boatbuilder, Hab 3:17-18
07:27 PM on 03/13/2012
Si senor you can vote....In Mexico.
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amluvinit2
When angry, count to four; when very angry, swear.
07:35 PM on 03/13/2012
Really?
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amluvinit2
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08:20 PM on 03/13/2012
Usted no parece muy brillante, y usted parece al racista
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FTracy3
My micro-bio is as empty as the rest of my life.
06:36 PM on 03/13/2012
Ethnic minorities may be statisticly disproportionately more likely not to have an ID, but is it truly disproportionately more difficult for someone who really wants one to get one? And if so, why? My grandparents came her legally from Mexico and aside from bitching about the line at the DMV, I don't recall my grandfather wanting to be treated differently from everyone else. Well actually bitching about the line at the DMV is like everyone else.
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canoeal
Wooden Boatbuilder, Hab 3:17-18
07:28 PM on 03/13/2012
In PA irt is simple you just have to do it . My nephews both have them.
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jstanavgguy
Proud member of the evil 1%
01:02 AM on 03/15/2012
Corbett signed the law tonight.
11:57 PM on 04/15/2012
I can't figure out if holee is the wizard of oz or the wicked whitch of the west.Let's throw a bucket of water on him.
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canoeal
Wooden Boatbuilder, Hab 3:17-18
07:37 PM on 03/13/2012
It is thier choice to have or not have an ID, but there is no discrimination in the process of getting one. They want to vote? Get one. Don't complain you can't vote because you won't play by the rules. One of the real fears is that when they get thier IDs they might be found wanted by the court system....Their problem...and for that I am not sympathetic...
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muddywood
First the truth, then opinion.
04:39 PM on 03/13/2012
We all know why you dems don't want to insure the integrity of the vote by insuring that only those that are legally allowed to vote, can vote.

I know.
You know.
But you continue to play this game.
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JohnHopwood2
Happiness is a 9 letter word
05:32 PM on 03/13/2012
I know. I remember Florida in 2000 all too well. I know how you reps. operate and I know when you are outnumbered you will go to any lengths to steal the vote. I know and you know and you continue to play the game that is so obvious.
05:46 PM on 03/13/2012
And we know how dems stuffed the ballot boxes in Ohio in 2008. We know about the New Black Panthers intimidating voters in Pennsylvania. At least the GOP let the Supreme Court make the final decision in 2000.
luvdatbobcat
4 more years of no jobs, no change, and no hope.
06:11 PM on 03/13/2012
Clearly you don't remember Florida 2000. It was Gore and the Democrats who REFUSED to recount all the ballots. It was Gore and the Democrats who tried to have LEGAL BALLOTS disqualified only because they did not support his candidacy.

Now it is so obvious that Democrats do not want to protect our elections. Once again, they want a free for all.
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Weeweed Up
Republicans don't care
06:46 PM on 03/13/2012
Simple. Because there is NO widespread voter fraud. Yes, most of us have our driver's license with us. How about those that don't drive? The elderly? In a perfect world, we all have our documentation perfectly filed. Not everyone is like that. If it were a REAL problem, then it would be necessary. IT IS NOT NECESSARY because THERE IS NO WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD.
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RobietheCat
Welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
07:55 PM on 03/13/2012
1. I suppose you also don't think illegals drive without licenses?

2. In a modern world of identity fraud, high tech and terrorism, you are seriously suggesting that we don't account for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in the US without ID?

Really? That seems like a good idea to you?

Our educational systems have dumbed us down to the level where the mere thought of self preservation is unthinkable.
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dtairtime
It is what it is
08:25 PM on 03/13/2012
Until we ask for ID we really have NO IDEA if the fraud is widespread.

Many people disagree with your take who are also liberals. Take justice Stevens who is no friend to repubs and seems to be on the liberal side of most issues - yet he thinks voter ID is needed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24351798/ns/politics/t/supreme-court-upholds-voter-id-law/
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Jim281
Just slightly to the left of John Lennon.
04:34 PM on 03/13/2012
In every state I've lived in since reaching voting age, a voter's registration identification card was issued after I registered. In some states, my drivers' license would suffice if I had not brout my voter id with me. (My address on the license matched their records.)

If all these states are sincere about their motives - which, I believe, they are not - then they ought to redesign their voter I.D. cards to include the person's photo. And NOT at the ctizens' expense.
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amluvinit2
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08:04 PM on 03/13/2012
I agree.
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Jim281
Just slightly to the left of John Lennon.
04:28 PM on 03/13/2012
Good job, DOJ. Thank you. Now get busy on all the other states. their voter i.d. lawas will also disenfranchise voters - as many as 5 million collectively - who are mostly the elderly, minorities, students, and the poor.

These laws are totally UNAMERICAN!
luvdatbobcat
4 more years of no jobs, no change, and no hope.
04:51 PM on 03/13/2012
There is no proof to back your argument.
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Jim281
Just slightly to the left of John Lennon.
05:07 PM on 03/13/2012
Sorry to see you are so inept. what did THIS article say? How many Latino voters would have been disenfranchised by the Texas law? For anyone interested in learning the truth, studies have been done in ever state passing these laws, and the results PROVE that cumulatively, there are at least 5 million American voters who DO NOT have photo ID, and the likely demographics are EXACTLY what I mentioned. Just last week, a WWII verteran and liflong voter was turned away at his state's primary because he had no photo ID, which he NEVER needed before. The man is 87 years old, and his driver's license expired. At 87, it is no surprise that he's not driving these days. And his story is NOT uncommon! There is NO EVIDENCE OF ANY SIGNIFICANT VOTER FRAUD. And in the minascule number of cases there are, these new laws would not have prevented them.
nia122
"Truth crushed to the earth will rise again."
05:32 PM on 03/13/2012
Actually, there is.
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RobietheCat
Welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
07:58 PM on 03/13/2012
Right.

However, as the courts decide the illegal aliens have the right to solicit for day labor in the streets, and use our streets as their personal toilet as a result of the 1st Amendment, US citizens were told yesterday that they could not put up posters on the freeway overpass advocating shutting down the San Onofre nuclear plant, or risk arrest.

Clearly, the Federal Govt is supporting the 'rights' of illegal aliens over the rights of American Citizens.

Time to wake up and the take your country back. Before it's too late.
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Jim281
Just slightly to the left of John Lennon.
09:22 PM on 03/13/2012
My country is right here where it has always been. The Federal government IS NOT THE ONE who is trying to disqualify eligible voters from voting due to a lack of "new STATE requirements".

This issue is not about illegals; it is about ELIGIBLE AMERICANS being turned away at the polls, unable to exercise their civil right, and civic duty.